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BS: Newspeak

19 Jul 08 - 06:38 PM (#2393113)
Subject: BS: Newspeak
From: dick greenhaus

Time Horizon? Not to be confused with Timeline?
Discussions as to what requirements are demanded to open negotiations?
Attempts to lump contraceptives with abortions?

Where's Orwell when we need him to translate?


19 Jul 08 - 06:56 PM (#2393122)
Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: CarolC

Last night we heard E. J. Dionne say, "The thing about the horizon is that you never get there".


19 Jul 08 - 06:56 PM (#2393123)
Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: John on the Sunset Coast

Well, if Orwell weren't already dead, he'd be turning over in his grave over those examples.
BTW, is the newspeak for Newspeak now Neologism?


19 Jul 08 - 07:07 PM (#2393127)
Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: Uncle_DaveO

No, Newspeak implies an attempt to deceive, or at least to cloud meaning.

Neologism is merely a new word, and may be an honest and even enlightening effort at communication.


Dave Oesterreich


19 Jul 08 - 07:12 PM (#2393130)
Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: GUEST,Jts

It looks like the Iraqis are happy enough with the words Obama is using.

>>But Republicans were carefully watching Mr. Obama's trip, which is rare in its profile and scope for a presidential candidate. The White House also made clear on Saturday that it was monitoring Mr. Obama's travels, accidentally sending an internal e-mail message to a broad distribution list of reporters of a news report that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki of Iraq supported Mr. Obama's proposed 16-month timeline for withdrawing combat troops from Iraq.<<

From this article


19 Jul 08 - 07:51 PM (#2393160)
Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: dick greenhaus

I should add: not "Torture"--just "Harsh Interrogation"

Thurber's word for this was "carcinomenclature"


19 Jul 08 - 08:12 PM (#2393173)
Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: Don Firth

Not even as harsh as "harsh." I believe it's "enhanced interrogation."

(Rack, thumbscrews, hot irons. . . .)

Don Firth