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21 Jul 08 - 07:46 AM (#2394038) Subject: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: Captain Farrell Is it just me, I`m fed up with people swanning round the stage taking photographs at every opportunity with little regard for the artists and punters |
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21 Jul 08 - 08:09 AM (#2394051) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: topical tom They don't bother me personally, but I can see that they would bother some performers. |
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21 Jul 08 - 08:42 AM (#2394072) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: Midchuck I see no problem with photography unless: 1) A flash is used in circumstances where it's distracting to either the performer or the audience, and/or 2) The photographer keeps standing up, and wandering around near the front, to take pictures, without any concern for other peoples' view. Both of the above offenses are, however, horribly widespread, in my experience. Peter |
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21 Jul 08 - 10:22 AM (#2394167) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: goatfell it doesn't bother me one wee bit, everyone has the right to take pictures, are we going to ban this now because some people don't like it, I mean it does annoy me when some bampot with a camera stands right in front of you and takes pictures but then they have have the right to do that. |
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21 Jul 08 - 10:29 AM (#2394172) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: GUEST,Shimrod " ...it does annoy me when some bampot with a camera stands right in front of you and takes pictures but then they have have the right to do that." So, bad manners are a 'right' now, are they? |
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21 Jul 08 - 11:28 AM (#2394233) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work Bad manners have just as much right to exist as good manners - it's the responsibility of each individual to choose whether they will be polite or rude, just as it is the individuals' responsibility to determine what is rude in what situation. The key word is responsible... we can be as rude as we like but we need to accept that we as individuals are responsible for our behaviour. If we don't like being treated one way, we should not treat others the same way. Do unto others as you would have them do to you. To blame someone else for your bad manners ("they let me do it in the other place") is not taking responsibility and thus the whole blame culture is progressed a little farther towards total 'someone else's problem' syndrome. LTS |
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21 Jul 08 - 11:35 AM (#2394239) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: GUEST,DV Depends upon the circumstances. Regular concerts, no. Festivals are a different animal, which present their own set of challenges to performers, this being but one. And I would consider photo taking one of the minor challenges, more an annoyance than anything else. Seasoned pros know there is precious little to be done about the photographing of their performances at general seating events of any kind, especially at outdoor festivals. |
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21 Jul 08 - 12:07 PM (#2394269) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: Leadfingers At the gigs I was on at the weekend (Medieval Banquets) the King specifaically banned photos for part of the show as we had a couple of lads doing a 'serious' Sword (And EveryThing Else) fight !! |
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21 Jul 08 - 03:48 PM (#2394466) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: Celtaddict As a photographer, I do not use flash without prior permission, and do not stand in a place that is 'better' (closer or more central) than my seat. I use a digital that lets me see the screen so I can hold it up briefly to take a shot without needing to stand. However, at an open outdoor event such as a festival, where no flash is required and no movement needed to get a good shot, I do not worry about it. My photos are generally for my own entertainment anyway. On the other hand, if I get a good shot, I send it to the performer (and a number have wound up on CDs and other material of various performers), I do not sell photos of someone to another party, and do not post any I think are not flattering or accurate, preferably both; I rarely post a shot without the performer's express permission, though on the 'Cat I have sometimes posted festival pictures. I do not video anyone even at a festival without permission (unless I am the festival's official photographer). I heed 'no photography' or 'no flash photography' signs or announcements. If performers accept that it is really not enforceable, what would performers like to see as guidelines or general rules of conduct with a camera? |
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22 Jul 08 - 03:17 AM (#2394807) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: GUEST,c.g. Unless I am there at the request of the performer(s), I don't wander around taking photos. Even if I am, I position myself so I am not in the way of the audience. In an acoustic gig, if possible I use a camera where the shutter sound can be muted so there is no sound when I take a photo. I don't use flash. Seems like basic good manners to me. I'm not keen on people who let their children riot all over the place and make a noise either. |
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22 Jul 08 - 02:04 PM (#2395268) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: Celtaddict Good point, c.g., about the sound effects on the camera being shut off. I also remove the lens cap, since it is on a leash, so it won't 'clack' as I move the camera. I wish the candy folks would unwrap during applause, too; and doing it slowly only makes it worse. But back to photography... |
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22 Jul 08 - 02:20 PM (#2395277) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: Midchuck I'm not keen on people who let their children riot all over the place and make a noise either. I think very few people are, except the children and the parents themselves. But children are easier to deal with. One can always carry a cane. Or get about a 30" length of concrete rebar and tape one end for a grip. Peter |
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22 Jul 08 - 03:03 PM (#2395313) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: Mr Red a colleague went to see Diana Ross recently. Apart from various artistic gripes, he cited the episode where she said "Someone is videoing me, it will be on YouTube tomorrow and I won't get any of the royalties", then stormed off never to return. He vowed never to go to see her again. I can see his point, I can see her point. There is very little consideration these days. From audience or organisers, or overpaid prima donnas. It is a feature of life these days. It is not good but I dare anyone to try changing it. In a small folk club the organisers would stamp on it. At Big festivals they attract that kind of punter, people who splash the cash. Yer pays yer money and yer ................... |
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22 Jul 08 - 08:46 PM (#2395559) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: Seamus Kennedy I don't like people video-recording my performances and sticking them up on YouTube without permission. It has happened a few times where the video and audio quality from a cell-phone camera are abysmal. In fact, someone posted one where the cell-phone camera kept falling over on the table. And it's a royal pain in the ass to get YouTube to take them down. Seamus |
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23 Jul 08 - 04:58 AM (#2395759) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: danensis There's a great clip on YouTube from Shrewsbury FF where some jobsworth comes up and says "you can't do that there 'ere", and the photographer asks "can't I just finish this song?". Obviously not! |
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23 Jul 08 - 10:28 AM (#2395959) Subject: RE: Digital Cameras at Festivals From: GUEST,DV My original post here was a comment on flash/still photography, which is something I consider to be at the annoyance level. But Seamus brings up something that is very troublesome, and I have no idea what a good resolution of the problem is for musicians and promoters (who will have to be part of that resolution) in the You Tube era. |