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A Taste of English Culture

08 Aug 08 - 03:42 PM (#2408683)
Subject: A Taste of English Culture
From: Jack Blandiver

Leading on from a comment made Here regarding concerns over what might constitute a representative presentation of English Musical Culture at the 2012 Olympic Games - what would your selection be? This is open to all, by the way, English and non-English alike, resident, transient, or otherwise...


08 Aug 08 - 03:47 PM (#2408690)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: GUEST,Volgadon

Probably a blue police box and salt and pepper robot.


08 Aug 08 - 03:48 PM (#2408693)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: greg stephens

WEll, I imagine Damon Albarn(sp?) will be commissioned to write an opera using traditional English tunes.


08 Aug 08 - 03:51 PM (#2408700)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: SINSULL

Always look on the bright side of life
Dee Dum Dee Dum.........


08 Aug 08 - 03:55 PM (#2408708)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: irishenglish

I nominate Walkaboutsverse singing only top line melody accompanied by his recorder (probably not made in England), with a backing of 100 people on the cittern performing English Country Dance provided they have won an English Folk Award.


08 Aug 08 - 06:06 PM (#2408853)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Peace

Well said, irishenglish. I salute you. And I friggin' near lost some coffee at the end of what you wrote. (It was excellent.)


08 Aug 08 - 06:59 PM (#2408890)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: mandotim

How about massed drunks singing the Birdie Song, with formation dance? I wonder if WAV knows the Birdie Song?
Tim ;)


08 Aug 08 - 07:19 PM (#2408900)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Phil Edwards

Get the Last Shadow Puppets to write the theme song. Get Propellerheads to put some beats under it, then get Scott Walker to sing it (you've got to have a big voice over that kind of material). Over the fade, have Mark E. Smith declaiming something - I don't know what, get him to write it specially. It'd be great.

As for proper musicians, I don't know - all I'm listening to at the moment is Nic Jones and Shirley Collins.


08 Aug 08 - 07:38 PM (#2408909)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Emma B

not a bad choice Pip!
One thing for sure it won't owe much to British 'folk' tradition (in any of its contemporary/multicultural forms) unlike the Chinese ceremony


09 Aug 08 - 05:15 AM (#2409124)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Jack Blandiver

get Scott Walker to sing it

The fact that Scott has not only made England his home but also defined many key points of Englishness underlines the universality of Englishness as a concept, showing how wonderfully subjective it might be, once we get away from those who assume they know what Englishness is! Those anthemic self-penned ballads from his early solo albums are indicative of the same England Saint Etienne are still singing about, and even his recent work is about as English as it gets really...

Meanwhile, here's a wee film I made some years back in which Scott's We Came Through was serendipitously found to last the exact same time it took to ascend the Holy Jesus Multi-Storey Car park in Newcastle upon Tyne:

First the Production Footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqf3TRP7XYs

And the finished article:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ktTtAZfV4


09 Aug 08 - 05:37 AM (#2409133)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: The Fooles Troupe

"English Culture"?

Ok, definitely not Yoghurt, but perhaps Clotted Cream?


09 Aug 08 - 10:33 AM (#2409267)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: GUEST,Dave

IrishEnglish,

Excellent idea. You forgot to mention that the citterns must be played with feathers.

Why, oh why is Kevin Pietersen England cricket captain? Surely he can't be pure enough? Sadly, I can't find anything in David's 'Life's work' to advise me. I feel strangley lost...


09 Aug 08 - 06:18 PM (#2409540)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Steve Gardham

How about a Scottish pipe band? it was good enough for the Chinese!


09 Aug 08 - 10:13 PM (#2409639)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Effsee

Faggots and peas surely?


10 Aug 08 - 03:30 AM (#2409726)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Will Fly

George Formby singing "In A Little Wigan Garden" would do me...


10 Aug 08 - 03:55 AM (#2409729)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: GUEST,Volgadon

Vivian Stanshall's Wheelbarrow song.


10 Aug 08 - 06:38 AM (#2409761)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Chris Green

To be honest, I'd probably just book The Imagined Village. Having seen them at Cambridge, I think they're probably the most accurate and diverse expression of where the tradition is (or traditions are!) in England at the moment!


10 Aug 08 - 07:51 AM (#2409779)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Bill S from Adelaide

Last I heard it was 10 000 massed morris dancers but we'd better start practicing soon, we have enough trouble synchronising 6 let alone 10k.
With a massed chorus of "On the woad again"


10 Aug 08 - 03:38 PM (#2410004)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Jack Blandiver

This just gone up on You Tube - the Amazing Bondel live in Norway, 2004, performing Seascape...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0ASyzKnIM


10 Aug 08 - 03:49 PM (#2410008)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Bert

A performance of Lionel Bart's Maggie May.


11 Aug 08 - 03:48 AM (#2410308)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Tradsinger

You'll all wrong. English culture at the Olympics will be represented by Rap and Soul bands and Gospel choirs, along with some Scottish pipers and Riverdancers. God forbid that any real English-rooted music be allowed.

:-(

Tradsinger


11 Aug 08 - 09:00 AM (#2410480)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Snuffy

It was the British Olympic Association that bid successfully to host the 2012 games in Great Britain.

England will not be competing, but Team GB will, so the opening ceremony should reflect what?

Answers on a postcard, please, to .....


11 Aug 08 - 04:52 PM (#2410946)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Steve Gardham

They will be known to the world as the London Olympics so they should reflect London Culture. Lots of jellied eels, pearly buttons, Chas and Dave, Derek Brimstone, John Foreman, murdered teenagers!


11 Aug 08 - 10:18 PM (#2411162)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Effsee

Come to think about it, 1967 Darlington Railway Station Buffet, an individual pork pie! Having chomped through half of it, noticed it had a nice internal covering of mould on the surface inside on the meat! Culture, of a sort, I suppose.


12 Aug 08 - 03:01 AM (#2411227)
Subject: RE: A Taste of English Culture
From: Gurney

The Black Dyke Mills Band. A Welsh choir with 'Men of Harlech.' The band of The Black Watch doing something stirring.
That should cover it, and inspire them.