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BS: ICE Raids

27 Aug 08 - 09:45 PM (#2423930)
Subject: BS: ICE Raids
From: Riginslinger

It seems like these ICE Raids just got started when the presidential campaigns got underway, and now we have that really great big one in Mississippi.
               It's funny that George W. Bush did nothing about illegal immigration for 7 years, and he's just now gotten behind the effort. I wonder if it's orchestrated to impress the 85% of the American public who have wanted something done in this area since the immigration act that was passed in 1986?


27 Aug 08 - 09:55 PM (#2423937)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: The Fooles Troupe

I thought you mean The Ice Pirates 1984... :-P


27 Aug 08 - 10:05 PM (#2423942)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Riginslinger

Actually, no. My intent was a little more serious than that, though "The Ice Pirates" is interesting.


28 Aug 08 - 03:22 AM (#2424060)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Liz the Squeak

Surely 'The Ice Pirates' is just 'Waterworld' after global warming?

LTS


28 Aug 08 - 06:19 AM (#2424137)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: The Fooles Troupe

You mean ... ah ...


28 Aug 08 - 07:33 AM (#2424178)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Liz the Squeak

Reverse the films... D'Oh!

LTS


29 Aug 08 - 08:15 AM (#2425311)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Riginslinger

It just seems to me like the ICE raids, like the latest one in Mississippi, are politically motivated, and I think they are having an effect on large groups of voters.


29 Aug 08 - 09:46 AM (#2425367)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Donuel

As families are ripped apart and as babies are shipped away from mothers the only difference from rounding up Jews in Nazi Germany and ICE raids is that tattoos and gas chambers do not await them at the end of their journey.


29 Aug 08 - 10:20 AM (#2425392)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Riginslinger

Donuel - I think the Jews in Germany were legally there.


29 Aug 08 - 10:35 AM (#2425417)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Riginslinger

Well, guest, when you let us know who you are, you're half-baked comments might be worth a reply.


29 Aug 08 - 01:08 PM (#2425603)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Jack Campin

: I think the Jews in Germany were legally there.

Not after the Nazis took control of the legal system they weren't.

When a state declares human beings to be "illegal" it isn't those human beings that are the problem.


29 Aug 08 - 02:37 PM (#2425698)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Amos

The idea that "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ILLEGAL HUMAN BEING" is just a tad too nuanced for Thick George and his Oil-Bunnies.


A


30 Aug 08 - 11:13 PM (#2426592)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Riginslinger

Getting back to the point, is there any political motivation for the ICE Raids to be happening now?


31 Aug 08 - 07:42 PM (#2427177)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: The Fooles Troupe

There's ALWAYS political motivation - you just have to identify it.

Quid Bono?


01 Sep 08 - 09:22 AM (#2427596)
Subject: RE: BS: ICE Raids
From: Riginslinger

Foolestroupe - Yes, that's what I was trying to determine. Here's the scenario the way I see it:
               For his first 7 years in office, George W. Bush did nothing about illegal immigration. He seemed to be happy to see as many people come into the country as could get here, driving American wages into the toilet and providing the lowest cost workers possible for the benefit of his cronies in various businesses and industries.
               But over the course of the last several months, the ICE Raids have become bigger and more frequent. In that last one in Mississippi they rounded up almost 600 people. They've even begun to charge managers and human resource people.

               The question is: what's changed and why are they doing it now?