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english folk music on youtube

30 Aug 08 - 07:56 PM (#2426546)
Subject: english folk music on youtube
From: skipy

Type "english folk music" into youtube & see what you get! It is appalling! We must stop being so bloody insular & put some of our "stuff" out there, yes there is plenty out there is you use artists surnames etc. but we seem to be afraid to use the "f" word.
So to find anything you need to be in the know in the first place.
Skipy


31 Aug 08 - 07:36 AM (#2426701)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: The Sandman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0zAr1t6nTE


31 Aug 08 - 07:45 AM (#2426703)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: greg stephens

Try this Olde English music in Olde English Pubbe


31 Aug 08 - 08:09 AM (#2426708)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: KeithofChester

There is quite a lot of English folk music on YouTube. Two more examples.

The Keys of Canterbury

The performers had to go across the Bristol Channel for this; and if they picked it up from where I did (The Byrds), across the Atlantic too!

The Bells of Rhymney


31 Aug 08 - 08:13 AM (#2426710)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: The Sandman

Very good greg ,it started my dog howling,but he has no taste.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1PaQaNH9NI


31 Aug 08 - 08:22 AM (#2426712)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: KeithofChester

Same song, different arrangement.

Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy- Haul Away Joe (Show of Hands)


31 Aug 08 - 08:23 AM (#2426714)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing


31 Aug 08 - 08:26 AM (#2426715)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing

KeithofChester,
                "The Bells of Rhymney" was put into song form originally by Pete Seeger in the 60`s


31 Aug 08 - 08:26 AM (#2426716)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Tradsinger

Me singing Fathom the Bowl.


31 Aug 08 - 08:36 AM (#2426720)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: KeithofChester

"The Bells of Rhymney" was put into song form originally by Pete Seeger in the 60`s

Thinking about it, I have actually heard the documentary that links it back to the guy writing a 20th Century poem based upon the traditional Oranges & Lemons. I'd forgotten the Pete Seeger connection though.

Radio Documentary


31 Aug 08 - 08:52 AM (#2426730)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Richard Bridge

Idris Williams


31 Aug 08 - 08:58 AM (#2426732)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Richard Bridge

This version of Sir Patrick Spens is rather good. Sadly, almost all other folk music that I have found on YouTube save from known past or present professional singers is truly dreadful.


31 Aug 08 - 09:06 AM (#2426738)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: treewind

"Type "english folk music" into youtube"
Well, that's just mainly a problem of unimaginative selection of keywords by people who put stuff on YouTube.

Here's a couple more examples that don't come up under that search key, but I can assure you they're English
(OK, there's a Welsh tune in there too...)
Try THIS or THIS
(warning: blatant self promotion...)

Anahata


31 Aug 08 - 09:08 AM (#2426739)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: KeithofChester

This lot aren't bad

Cold Haily Rainy Night (Imagined Village)


31 Aug 08 - 09:27 AM (#2426753)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: KeithofChester

Same lot, different song

Scarborough Fair (Imagined Village)


31 Aug 08 - 09:33 AM (#2426756)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Fidjit

Well I know the tunes probably Scottish and they are dancing in Stockholm Sweden, but just look at the cricketers there.

Eken Morris (the Oak Morris)


31 Aug 08 - 11:10 AM (#2426797)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Bainbo

Dogrose Morris


31 Aug 08 - 11:57 AM (#2426832)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: The Sandman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFP8K-oP-agthe copper family


31 Aug 08 - 04:04 PM (#2427001)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Richard Bridge

The Kapting is on there if you follow some of the links from some of the above links -

but even acknowledged professional experts (much better than me etc etc,) can produce a dogs breakfast sometimes


Not up to their usual standard...


31 Aug 08 - 04:20 PM (#2427008)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Steve Gardham

Forgive me if I've missed the point but aren't sites like YouTube meant to be anything-goes chatrooms with pics and video? I didn't think the point was entertainment or excellence of any sort. this thread seems to be suggesting some sort of elitist quality control.

Try some of Sarah Macmillan's videos of Whitby Folk Festival. Could somebody please do a blue clicky? I'm useless at these.


31 Aug 08 - 04:30 PM (#2427016)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: The Sandman

steve,you tube has lots of different sections,as far as Iam concerned the music section is about trying to promote traditional music and the concertina.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu8CybKCbss adifferent version of HARD TIMES OF OLD ENGLAND,to whippersnapper


31 Aug 08 - 04:44 PM (#2427029)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: The Borchester Echo

Or could it not be a manifestation of the growing feeling that the word "f*lk" needs binning forthwith? It is a term so terminally damaged that it is applied (and especially so by the pubic at large) to any old MOR dross ranging from faded pub rockers to anyone who once knew someone who lived next door to the erstwhile owner of an acoustic guitar.

English musicians prefer increasingly to describe their music as "trad" or "indie" to put as much distance as possible between the tie-dye and sandal-clad thrashers, bashers, whiners and fey warblers who perpetuate the myth that trad music and dance is necessarily amateurish and naff.


31 Aug 08 - 04:57 PM (#2427036)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Steve Gardham

'promote' Okay I'll buy that.


31 Aug 08 - 05:03 PM (#2427040)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Richard Bridge

Well, no, SWMBO, in that stupidity only goes so far.


31 Aug 08 - 05:13 PM (#2427046)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: skipy

Hi, there is plenty out there but you have to type in the right keywords to find it "That is my point" we are putting things on the net for the converted, we seem to be scared to use the phrase "english folk music".
If I want to find Vin Garbutt, I can, Harvey Andrews, easy etc.
but to come across what we do by accident & therefore share it is very difficult to say the least.
I have receently changed jobs, I work in a huge company but shara a workshop with only 2 others, 1 is a Folkie (concerts only) the other is time warped in the 70s, both by the way are really fine poeple to spend time with & VERY good at what they do. One can find what we do by typing the right names, the other if he goes on the net get "greensleeves". So he thinks greensleeves is what we do.
Mostly because we are scared to use the word English & Folk so search engines will not find it on youtube.
Skipy (a singer who has taken a rest for a couple of decades but is so coming back into the fold!)


31 Aug 08 - 05:14 PM (#2427049)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Fidjit

There's this
skipy

Enjoy it's what it's for.

Chas


31 Aug 08 - 05:19 PM (#2427054)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Richard Bridge

No, Fidjit, I don't find that funny, any more than Jewish jokes, Liza and Rastus jokes, or Irish jokes.


31 Aug 08 - 10:07 PM (#2427262)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Gulliver

There were 77 comments on this clip on Youtube--all of them loved it! (I didn't, I thought it was stupid)


01 Sep 08 - 06:04 AM (#2427471)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Jack Blandiver

I don't find that funny, any more than Jewish jokes, Liza and Rastus jokes, or Irish jokes.

Who said folkies had no sense of humour? The Fast Show parody is done by people with a genuine love of the stuff, and a despair for the creeping idiocy that would ever take offence at such an accurate & affectionate send up. And in no way shape or form is it racist; folk music being a hobbyist concern of but a tiny minority of the 70 million (or so) citizens currently resident in the British Isles and not a manifestation of the ethnicity of same.


01 Sep 08 - 06:45 AM (#2427488)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: GUEST,Dazbo at work

Part of the problem is not what we call it but what other users mean by it. I've not searched under English Folk Music for well over a year as what it bought back was any video that had English, Folk or music in the title (trying to search for phrases then didn't seem to work - or at least I couldn't get it to work). For this reason the stuff I've loaded to my channel isn't tagged with English at all.


01 Sep 08 - 07:14 AM (#2427503)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Will Fly

YouTube indexing is not just limited to the title of the piece or the tags that are entered when the video is posted, but also includes the descriptive text which appears under the "More info..." link. So, being eminently narcisstic, I checked my own channel to see what came up under the "folk" keyword - up came several, including this one, The Cuckoo's Nest , which does not have the word "folk" in the tags (I used "traditional" instead). It came up because I'd used the phrase "folk dance" in the description. Best to remember that YouTube indexing is basic and unsophisticated and will throw up all sorts of weird and wonderful things.


01 Sep 08 - 08:14 AM (#2427556)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Lighter

I checked out Treewind's clips at random.

Fabulous. The best. Exactly the right spirit! Three cheers!


01 Sep 08 - 08:19 AM (#2427559)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Fidjit

Richard B

That's peculiar.
Not a lot you find funny then?

Chas


01 Sep 08 - 09:35 AM (#2427609)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Richard Bridge

Well, lederhosen and the scandinavian suicide rate. Quite separately.


01 Sep 08 - 02:49 PM (#2427870)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Fidjit

You lost me.

Now which funny peculiar are we on about?

No don't bother we'd get the definitions police out.

Chas


03 Mar 12 - 11:51 AM (#3316658)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: GUEST

the reason we can not find english folk music is because other coutries in the british isles are laying clame to the same folk    music with out factual evidence mainly american irish claimes


04 Mar 12 - 06:11 AM (#3317024)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: Vic Smith

Over 130 folk club performances in one current Mudcat thread


04 Mar 12 - 12:54 PM (#3317156)
Subject: RE: english folk music on youtube
From: The Sandman

Sorry Vic, but your thread is not entirely English folk music, I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT IS NOT GOOD, but it does not belong here.