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07 Jun 99 - 08:03 PM (#84740) Subject: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Joe Offer We have this song in the database, but I can't seem to make the words fit the tune. Can anybody provide a version of this song that works a little better? It's the last two verses that give me trouble. Barring that, if you can parse the lyrics for me to show me how to fit them to the tune.... -Joe Offer- |
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07 Jun 99 - 09:00 PM (#84759) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Barbara Joe, do you have a tune? There's not one posted in the DT. But the way I know it (from Gordon Bok) is: (bold is downbeat) As I was a-walking through Dublin City About the hour of twelve at night It was there I saw a fair, pretty maiden Washing her feet by candle light And that one you know, right? So if my downbeats match yours, then here's the other ones (if I don't run out of angle brackets)
Oh, but tides do be running the whole world over
But there's the same little fishes that swims and spin
see if that helps Joe, and then ship me your tune if it doesnt. |
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07 Jun 99 - 09:02 PM (#84760) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Barbara Well, dangola Joe, another golden opportunity to use your View Source key, and find where I forgot to put a close bold HTML. ARGH! Someplace close to the beginning, obviously. Blessings, Barbara |
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08 Jun 99 - 06:13 AM (#84867) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Martin _Ryan Joe: I heard this song many years ago from Frank Harte, as a variant of "The Spanish Lady". He recorded it on Topic, if I remember. Still sings it regualrly - as do I.The version in the DT looks a bit strange to me. I've never heard the last two verses, in particular. Could Bok have written them himself? They would be very awkward to fit to Frank's tune. I'll post Frank's set of words when I get a chance. I think I have them on disc somewhere. Tune is more problematical. Regards |
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08 Jun 99 - 10:15 AM (#84901) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Barbara Alright, let me try that again.
(bold is downbeat)
And that one you know, right? So if my downbeats match yours, then here's the other ones (if I don't run out of angle brackets)
Oh, but tides do be running the whole world over
But there's the same little fishes that swims and spin.
The problem comes from the 3 or 4 eighth notes in various places. They all get sung on the same note as a sort of drone, but if you haven't heard Gordon do it, its pretty hard to imagine. So maybe you should buy the tape/record/CD, Joe. Maybe Sandy will give you a break.
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08 Jun 99 - 06:53 PM (#85024) Subject: Lyr Add: THE SPANISH LADY From: Martin _Ryan Spanish Lady, The As I was a-walking through Dublin City, now,
And as I came back through Dublin City
I've wandered North and I've wandered South now
Round and around goes the wheel of fortune Mind you, Frank often treats it as 4-line verses and scatters the counting chorus around like snuff at a wake! Regards |
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08 Jun 99 - 07:52 PM (#85031) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Joe Offer Thanks, Barbara and Martin - Martin's lyrics fit the tune much better. I'm familiar with the Bok recording, and his is the tune I know. I just can't sing Bok's lyrics with a group. The Denver Public Library doesn't have tune software, so I can't post a tune. I see that there are a few tunes in variations of the song I found by searching for [spanish lady], [wheel of fortune], and [dublin city]. Dick and Susan Alert: I see that there is a Digital Tradition number, #846, assigned to this song, but only one of the songs in the database has the number in the text. One day when one or the other of you has your life in balance, it would be a fine idea to link all the related songs together with this number. Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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09 Jun 99 - 07:29 AM (#85135) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Philippa Before I heard the Spanish Lady, as Frank Harte sings it, I heard a similar song to the same tune, maybe a parody, sung by the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem. The Dublin lady declines the narrator's proposal saying: Did you ever see the grass in the morning, all bedecked with jewels rare Did you ever see a handsome lady, sparking jewels in her hair? Did you ever see a copper kettle, mended with an old tin can? Did you ever see a handsome lady married off to an ugly man? |
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09 Jun 99 - 08:53 AM (#85145) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Martin _Ryan Phillipa They sound like verses from "Chester City" or "Madam I'm a Darling" as it is sometimes known. Try HERE for example. regards |
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09 Jun 99 - 09:04 AM (#85149) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Alice Martin, thanks for the link. Chester City/Madam I'm a Darling, is one I hadn't heard, but well worth learning. |
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09 Jun 99 - 10:58 PM (#85391) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: DonMeixner Joe, The Corries do a version called "Ettrick Valley" which mays as well be The Spainish Lady. The Dubliners also have a version I quite like because of the verse: I've been East and I've been west... The Wheel of Fortune is a beautiful variation but tough to sing with a group. I have a recording of Cilla Fisher and Artie Tresize doing The Wheel of Fortune in Finnish. A little bizarre. Don |
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10 Jun 99 - 12:38 AM (#85420) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: bseed(charleskratz) and here it's I refreshing threads just to get them together (but I'll let someone else discover them--otherwise it would be cheating). --seed |
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15 May 19 - 07:43 PM (#3992585) Subject: Lyr Add: WHEEL OF FORTUNE (John Doyle) From: GUEST,Karen Reid This is a completely different song by the same title, as sung by the Irish singer and guitarist, John Doyle. Absolutely beautiful song. Lyrics to Wheel of Fortune (as sung by John Doyle) The snow falls hard in Dawson City I’ve a pick and shovel, and a pack on hand. I think on you, but it turns to grievin’ Six thousand miles from my native land. When first I saw you, my heart surrendered No lass in Erin could wound me so, Your flowing hair, like as the raven And your lips were red as blood in snow. I saw you walking, so slight and graceful Gathering lilies in the market square. And I called to you, and you turned smiling. And I thought my heart would break right there. All summer long, while we played and courted Through Lissalough and Caroleen. We swore that we’d be bound together An let no other part the seam. Chorus: Turn around now, you wheel of fortune You bind together, you tear apart. We place our bets, and set you spinning To bring us joy or break our heart. While I roamed to Scotland, all as a spalpeen To dig potatoes and thresh the wheat, And I bought a ring for to fit your finger, For to give to you when next we’d meet. With a joyous heart, I opened the door, love That dreadful evening as I returned. For there I found you in the arms of another, Oh, how my heart, it did ache and burn. Chorus I roamed the world all to forget you, To blench the taste that was once so sweet: The burning heat of Arizona To the Rockies high and looming peaks. Not riches bright, but rock and fool’s gold The Yukon’s treasures yield to me. I dug the dirt and panned the streams love In hopes that one day I’d be free. Here I sit in Dawson City The Whitehouse ferry has brought me o’er. There’s many a man in search of riches Who sold his soul for less, not more. Chorus |
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17 May 19 - 10:16 AM (#3992768) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Mrrzy We had this by Theo Bikel, with a counting chorus (she had 20 18 16 14, 12 10 8 6 4 2 none, she had 19 17 15 13, 11 9 7 5 3 and 1. Round and round the wheel of fortune...) |
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17 May 19 - 06:01 PM (#3992827) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: rich-joy Much like this version then, Mrrzy?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kGADIvdG_c at 8:53 in, by Paul Lawler of Darwin. Cheers, R-J |
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18 May 19 - 12:43 PM (#3992863) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Mrrzy Yes, very like. |
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11 Feb 20 - 11:58 PM (#4033742) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: GUEST I've heard two other verses in which the narrator went out to or came home from Dublin City variously as the sun began to set and at the hour of half past eight. The hair verse had her catching a moth in a golden net - i believe this refers to the Spanish Lady (prostitute) catching a male passer-by, but I can't remember the rest. In the other verse, I'm sure she was washing her hair, but I can't remember any more. The Wheel verse as I recall went: 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4 and none, 19, 17, 15, 13, 11, 9, 7, 5, 3 and one, Round and round goes the wheel of fortune, Where it stops I cannot see, Pretty girls are all deceiving Sad misfortune teaches me. |
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12 Feb 20 - 10:55 AM (#4033837) Subject: RE: Wheel of Fortune (Dublin City) From: Richard Mellish Then there's Christy Moore's version which starts out the same but tells a totally different story. |