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10 Sep 08 - 08:05 AM (#2436067) Subject: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: OldFolkie Looking for help again.... Anyone know of any software that mimics either a piano keyboard or guitar fretboard? I.e. what I want to be able to do is click on either a piano key or a guitar fret and it plays the note through the 'puter's speaker. Reason for asking is that my wife is learning to play flute and plays only from sheet music, while I play guitar entirely by ear,. While sitting on the train on my daily journey to the office, I'm trying to put down the melody that I want her to play in traditional notation in a PC notation package (Finale Guitar) on my laptop. The idea is that I can 'play' the melody using the mouse on the virtual keyboard / guitar neck, then transcribe the notes into sheet format. If I was at home, I would be sitting there with guitar, working out the melody a few notes at a time, but I don't think other commuters would be particularly impressed if I sat there on a crowded train alternating between picking up the guitar and playing a few notes, then putting the guitar down to transcribe into the laptop! Any help or other ideas would be appreciated! |
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10 Sep 08 - 08:24 AM (#2436080) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Will Fly Macintosh computers generally come with "Garageband" bundled - which provides a keyboard that you can click on to play note. Whether this program is available in Windows format I don't know - but a 'net search should tell you. Best of luck. |
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10 Sep 08 - 08:29 AM (#2436085) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Joe G Maybe something here? http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/win95/GUITAR/freeware/ There are also a number of guitar simulations around but some of them are pricey - I've just had a demo of one on my Computer Music Magazine DVD but can't remember name - I'll check it out tonight at home but I think it was over £100! |
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10 Sep 08 - 09:42 AM (#2436153) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Jack Campin There is a Dashboard widget for Mac OS X Tiger that puts a keyboard on your screen. I couldn't get it to work, but other people might have more luck. |
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10 Sep 08 - 09:49 AM (#2436161) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: OldFolkie Thanks for the help - and apologies for an omission on my part - I should have mentioned that I am PC, not Mac! Regards OF |
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10 Sep 08 - 09:52 AM (#2436166) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: GUEST Virtual Piano |
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10 Sep 08 - 10:13 AM (#2436196) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: olddude Go here, stuff from sourceforge is always good and always free digital guitar |
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10 Sep 08 - 11:42 AM (#2436296) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Jim Lad All That Chords will do that & more. |
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10 Sep 08 - 12:47 PM (#2436367) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: M.Ted If I am right, you want to take what you play on guitar and turn it into notation that your BW can read, while you are riding on the commuter train--Given the fact that you neither read nor write musical notation right now, that's a steep learning curve project, no matter where you try to do it. Doing it all on the commuter train really seems like "a bridge too far", if you'll excuse the pun. I have a synth guitar that have used to do what you want to do-I just pop the MIDI cable into the computer, turn on my notation program, and play-I wish I could say it's as easy as pie, but here is what has to happen to get it to work-- 1)I have to work up the passage, part or piece that I want to notate(anything from ten minutes to several days) so that I can play it perfectly- 2)I have to play it into the computer (often five or six times, not including false starts) 3)I have to clean up the errors in the performance. 4)I have to convert the audio file to a notational file in whatever program I'm using. 5)I have to regularize the performance--this means taking, say, a string of what I've played as a string of eighth note/eighth rests and turn them into quarter notes, or whatever.(this is probably takes the most time) 5)I have to impose all the notational conventions(starting with.transposing, remember that guitar is written an octave above the actual pitch) 6) I make it nice an print it 7)I reflect on the fact that it took longer than I thought All of this goes to the point that those of us who can and do play by ear have got one up on the "classically trained" folks who can't or don't, because, even with technology, it is a PITA to notate and score music-- |
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10 Sep 08 - 12:49 PM (#2436369) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: pavane In theory, you don't really need two steps, you could use a MIDI instrument to play the notes into a package. But timings will usually be way off, and the printed music will not be accurate. How about learning abc notation? That is really quick and easy for melodies, and there are plenty of programs, including mine, which can translate abc to sheet music. Alternatively, my own program also has a drag and drop facility where you can drop notes onto the score, and then immediately play it back if you need to check what you have done. The score can then be printed out. Download HARMONY from my site |
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10 Sep 08 - 01:10 PM (#2436389) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Mr Red I have a copy of Melodyne that will take MP3/WAV and do most of what you want - I have not loaded it yet but my source reckons it is excellent and he is a guitarist. PM me. I might just load it and try. He raves about it. It apparently produces notation. In my experience with these things, you do your thing, then realise artistry is about bending the rules just enough to flummox any precise pattern recognition system. So you have to tinker before entrusting to notation and Melodyne allows you to do that relatively quickly, he reckons. |
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10 Sep 08 - 05:01 PM (#2436676) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine There's a guitar-oriented version of Sibelius called G7 that allows you to input notes on a guitar fretboard on screen (which can be converted in standard sheet music, tablature for user-definable instruments etc). I think I paid about £99 for it, which isn't cheap, but it came in very handy for preparing teaching materials for my guitar pupils. |
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10 Sep 08 - 05:15 PM (#2436693) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Bill D If you go here and get "Aldo's Pianito" version 2.3, it will do all those tricks. There are newer versions which all cost money...but this one is free. It is fun. |
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10 Sep 08 - 09:37 PM (#2436906) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: cobber I use Band in a Box a lot and it works well for me. I don't know what it costs these days as mine is an old version. |
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11 Sep 08 - 09:17 AM (#2437262) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: GUEST Very simple - and FREE - is nutchords32. You can download it from the Harmony Central site. XXX
Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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11 Sep 08 - 03:40 PM (#2437623) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Sorcha I thought Noteworthy used a piano keyboard too? |
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11 Sep 08 - 09:52 PM (#2437926) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Bill D one additional thing in Aldo's Pianito,..... you can toggle on & off a control that shows the computer keys that correspond to the piano keys, so that with a bit of practice, you can actually play tunes using the computer keys. You can also choose various instruments sounds and the octave you want to hear. |
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12 Sep 08 - 02:17 AM (#2438031) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: pavane I have a PC virtual piano which came free with a sequencer demo on a cover disk, unfortunately it is not compatible with Vista. But my program can accept the output from it just as if it was a real MIDI instrument. |
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12 Sep 08 - 08:29 PM (#2438875) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: M.Ted The high end versions of Melodyne are the only ones that do audio-midi, and those run $369 and $699, so you have to really want it! I am very curious as to how well it works, and for what--one assumes that it does work reasonably well, since Melodyne is a highly regarded professional tool. |
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15 Sep 08 - 03:56 AM (#2440646) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: pavane Does it really do AUDIO to MIDI (rather than capturing a digital signal from a MIDI instrument?) I have seen several programs which claim to do it, but usually only for a melody (i.e. no chords) and very limited. |
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15 Sep 08 - 04:13 AM (#2440656) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: s&r Notepad is free and allows entry via TAB which you can hear. Worth a try here Stu |
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15 Sep 08 - 10:50 AM (#2440984) Subject: RE: Tech: Anyone know of any software to do this? From: Bill D right...Notpad is 'free' after you sign up and creat an 'account' with them so they have your email. (I know, I can create throwaway email accounts...etc... but I just have this grumpy attitude about companies that can't just make 'free' mean NO strings attached. If I like their product, and need the fancier versions, I know where to find them.....in the meantime, just let me download the program!) |