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10 Oct 08 - 07:34 AM (#2461939) Subject: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: GUEST,beardedbruce Scientists: Virginia shark's pup a 'virgin birth' By STEVE SZKOTAK, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago RICHMOND, Va. - Scientists have confirmed the second case of a "virgin birth" in a shark. In a study reported Friday in the Journal of Fish Biology, scientists said DNA testing proved that a pup carried by a female Atlantic blacktip shark in the Virginia Aquarium & Marine Science Center contained no genetic material from a male. The first documented case of asexual reproduction, or parthenogenesis, among sharks involved a pup born to a hammerhead at an Omaha, Neb., zoo. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081010/ap_on_sc/sci_shark_mystery |
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10 Oct 08 - 09:31 AM (#2462056) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: catspaw49 Your wife is a firm believer in asexual reproduction isn't she Bruce? (;<)) Spaw |
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10 Oct 08 - 09:32 AM (#2462060) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: GUEST,beardedbruce Sorry, Spaw- you can't judge everyone by your own situation... |
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10 Oct 08 - 09:33 AM (#2462062) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: Donuel What a bastard |
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10 Oct 08 - 12:18 PM (#2462202) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: john f weldon Virgin birth is not totally unknown in some species. Rare, though. But humans, with cloning, could make it a commonplace. We could have as many Messiahs as we want! Yay! |
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10 Oct 08 - 12:27 PM (#2462207) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: Escapee " And what strange beast, it's hour come 'round at last, slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?" WB Yates |
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10 Oct 08 - 01:46 PM (#2462275) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: Rapparee William Butler YEATS. |
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10 Oct 08 - 02:05 PM (#2462299) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: Bee It has always interested me that, having read the poem long before I read anything of Yeats' reasons for writing it, I internalized an entirely different 'landscape of interpretation', which I cannot shake and don't particularly wish to. I would never have conjectured that the poem laments the fall of the ruling classes, the aristocracy, to revolution and war. I still think, whatever Yeats' personal motive, it is a beautifully evocative metaphor for any era when people perceive that the future cannot be predicted, that civilizations fall, that foretold divinity may be instead a monster. It is one of my favourites. The Second Coming Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Surely some revelation is at hand; Surely the Second Coming is at hand. The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert A shape with lion body and the head of a man, A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun, Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds. The darkness drops again; but now I know That twenty centuries of stony sleep Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? |
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10 Oct 08 - 02:21 PM (#2462315) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: dick greenhaus I've always liked the poem, but nowadays I keep imagining a voice at the end saying "I'm John McCain, and I approve this message" |
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10 Oct 08 - 02:42 PM (#2462338) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: meself (yuk, yuk) "whatever Yeats' personal motive" One trait of a great artist is the ability to produce a great work of art despite personal motives. Perhaps this has to do with intuitive distrust of motives, and the desire to communicate with those who do not, or will not, share your particular world-view. Yeats (along with other greats) may have had a sense that while his politics and cosmology were products of his time and place, his art would be 'eternal'. |
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10 Oct 08 - 02:54 PM (#2462351) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: Rapparee Yeats was not a supporter of the Irish Rebellion until...read "Easter 1916". |
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10 Oct 08 - 08:23 PM (#2462640) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: john f weldon In Yeats unpublished notes, was this early version... Who's this?? Unshaved and unshorn... Cleft hoof, a hump, and a horn... This odious stranger Is seeking a manger In Bethlehem! There to be born! ...which later evolved into the famous poem. |
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10 Oct 08 - 11:26 PM (#2462740) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: dick greenhaus Omigod! A Yeats limerick! |
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11 Oct 08 - 02:48 AM (#2462781) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: The Fooles Troupe "We could have as many Messiahs as we want!" No males, but... :-) |
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11 Oct 08 - 08:48 AM (#2462886) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: john f weldon A little genetic splicing, heck, we can do what we want. We could have a tall blond handsome Jesus with an upper-class British accent. |
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11 Oct 08 - 03:09 PM (#2463134) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: Rapparee Thanks, but I'd prefer one that laughs a lot and enjoys a good party. |
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11 Oct 08 - 03:34 PM (#2463142) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: gnu A purlpe one? |
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11 Oct 08 - 04:53 PM (#2463207) Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Coming? With Teeth! From: Escapee Yeah, Rapaire, that guy. Thats what happens when I type past my bedtime. |