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13 Oct 08 - 05:19 AM (#2464203) Subject: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky The latest BT Broadband advert (UK TV) shows a guy ridiculing the banale TV channels his friend's broadband package offers him. The list includes: Owl TV Deep Sea Fishing Cats Do The Craziest Things and Legends of Folk Music. Is there no end to this? |
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13 Oct 08 - 05:31 AM (#2464207) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Seaking I'm sure ornithologists, fishermen and pet owners will all be feeling the same way. They (BT) are only attempting to be clever but actually highlighting their ignorance. Chris |
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13 Oct 08 - 05:33 AM (#2464208) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Colin Randall ....and they're also too ignorant to realise how many of us are perfectly content to be marginalised (while reserving the right to whinge about it, of course) |
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13 Oct 08 - 05:45 AM (#2464212) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: quokka What?! They've got a WHOLE channel dedicated to Legends of Folk Music? Where do I sign up??? ;-> |
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13 Oct 08 - 05:48 AM (#2464214) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Paul Burke All that list sound better than the sh*te that's really in offer on TV. |
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13 Oct 08 - 05:48 AM (#2464217) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: SteveMansfield Ah, don't worry about it. People mock what they don't understand, and media people also mock what they can't co-opt and shoehorn into their neat boxed-off formats. If it's really bugged you that much write a letter to UK TV registering your complaint, but I suspect traditional music will survive some advertising wonk having a dig on a small cable channel. I must say a line-up of Owl TV, Cats Do The Craziest Things, and Legends Of Folk Music sounds a whole bunch better than most of the endlessly-recycled output of the UK TV channels, where do I sign up? |
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13 Oct 08 - 05:58 AM (#2464221) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Dave Sutherland Just think of all the fun we could have if we did have a "Legends of Folk Music" channel. The opinions, the arguments.......... |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:08 AM (#2464226) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Brakn I have just complained. I think we all should. |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:12 AM (#2464228) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Folkiedave Where to? |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:24 AM (#2464236) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: theleveller I wouldn't mind, but the presenter is the most puke-making dork, with a stupid little-boy haircut (despite being in his late 40s). That's far more irritating than the reference to folk singers. Any advertiser whi has so little tatse as to use that prat can't be taken seriously. |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:31 AM (#2464241) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Brakn I complained here. |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:33 AM (#2464243) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Big Al Whittle a waste of indignation. the folkmusic movement made choices that it didn't want mass acceptance. this whole site is knee deep in threads saying that anything resembling popular music is crap (which incidentally is not a nice way to regard the lovers of pop music - but they don't bitch at us!). live with it. its only an accurate reflection of the path that we have chosen and the popular view. |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:35 AM (#2464244) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Brakn For some reason that link doesn't always work but it's there or roundabouts. |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:36 AM (#2464246) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky I suggest we all Ask Emma about how to get Legends of Folk Music. |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:48 AM (#2464252) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky I just tried it. She flashed her eyelids at me and replied: All you need to get going with BT Broadband is a BT phone line and a compatible computer. Visit the broadband pages to find out more. So there you go. Then, bless her, she asked: How useful was my answer? Tempting or what? Is 'corporate arseholery' a proper phrase? |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:48 AM (#2464253) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Bernard On the other hand, the Country Life Butter ad featuring John Layden (Sex Pistols) at least acknowledges Morris to be 'Very British'... sadly, some of the subtleties of that ad are lost on many people...! |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:57 AM (#2464259) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Michael Winner Calm down dear, it's only an advert. |
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13 Oct 08 - 07:04 AM (#2464265) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine I'm sure a deluge of complaints to the advertising standards agency would do nothing but give advertising agencies the idea that lovers of folk music are just a bunch stuck-in-the-muds with no sense of humour. |
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13 Oct 08 - 07:22 AM (#2464274) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Ernest We are telling so many jokes about ourselves (bajo-, bodhran-, accordion-jokes etc.) - why should we care if someone else is making a joke about us? Best Ernest |
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13 Oct 08 - 07:37 AM (#2464281) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: quokka Sorta like siblings who fight like cats 'n' dogs between themselves but woe betide an outsider picking on one of us, er I mean them... why yes I do have quite a few siblings... ;-> |
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13 Oct 08 - 07:44 AM (#2464285) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: mauvepink A great many adverts make a great deal of mockery about many types of people and interests/hobbies. All sorts of adverts are blatantly sexist, for instance, and I think so many '-isms' are covered with the advertising industry generally. In general I think Folksters probably get a little less fun poked at them than a lot more other groups of society. Subtle ageism, sexism, racism, genderism, sizeism, hairism, etc., etc, runs through many adverts. So now we have folkism to add to the list. Folk is about and part of the real world. We know we are not doing any harm and are just 'normal' folks (whatever normal is) so I guess we have to be used in 'normal' life things. I find far more offensive things being used in advertising, far less subtle too, so maybe this is a sign that Folk is now more mainstream and accepted as such? I think it would be far easier to poke fun at BT than the other way around? Best wishes mp |
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13 Oct 08 - 08:12 AM (#2464301) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: The Fooles Troupe Ask Emma - produced... You asked me: How can I get the "Legends of Folk Music" channel? My answer is: Please ask me a question about BT's products or services. |
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13 Oct 08 - 08:36 AM (#2464315) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,DaveP I think we should celebrate it. Can't wait for the first act to be introduced as: "And now, a band you definetely won't hear on BT Vision, ..." :o) |
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13 Oct 08 - 09:33 AM (#2464342) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Charley Noble Well, at least Folk Music made the top four, and as legendary! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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13 Oct 08 - 09:45 AM (#2464347) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Look at the bright side - at least they mention "folk music". Here in the U.S., PBS will bring out all the "legends of folk music" at fund drive time to boost their pledges. Then, when they go back to "regular" programming, folk music is forgotten. |
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13 Oct 08 - 10:13 AM (#2464371) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky Coming soon to BT Vision!Legends of Folk MusicA new twelve-part series of one-hour programmes. Each documenting the life, career, influence and contribution of twelve legendary figures of Folk Music. So......(and I've a feeling I'm going to regret asking this).......who would you have? |
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13 Oct 08 - 10:28 AM (#2464381) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Spleen Cringe As my strapline will soon insist, we're talking about esoteric music for a niche market. And if I'm honest, I suspect most of the time we're fair game. Still it's not like there's more pressing issues to worry about right now is it? Is it? |
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13 Oct 08 - 11:10 AM (#2464419) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky Still it's not like there's more pressing issues to worry about right now is it? Is it? Is it OK with you if we discuss lighter matters? |
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13 Oct 08 - 11:22 AM (#2464432) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Spleen Cringe It's fine by me, Sminky, you don't need my permission for anything. No offence intended! But d'you not think it says something about the sensitive little flowers that are the whingeing folkies of this parish, when stuff like this causes so much angst and handwringing? Those on the thread who are firing purple prose off to advertising standards or whoever, are potentially making this strange little world look even stranger. That's ok though. Eccentricity and handbags-at-dawn are fine things and probably far more traditional than most folk music... Having said that, when I got to the impassionated Is there no end to this? at the end of your OP, it gave me my first decent laugh of the day. For this I truly thank you. In answer to your earlier question, one of them has to be Peter Bellamy, of course. |
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13 Oct 08 - 11:44 AM (#2464453) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Bernard Yes, Peter Bellamy... and Carthy, Dylan, The Spinners, Fairport, Steeleye, Julie Felix, Ewan MacColl, Ted Edwards, The Oldham Tinkers, Harry Boardman, Tony Rose... The real problem is who to omit... |
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13 Oct 08 - 11:47 AM (#2464457) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Backwoodsman What's a 'strapline'? Sounds like some kind of weird acoutrement for the sexual deviant. :-) |
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13 Oct 08 - 11:49 AM (#2464459) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: r.padgett I posted this on another folk chat page a while ago Clearly a bit of fun, although I went through my TV channels and couldn't find anything remotely the same (yep I am gullible) for Legends of Folk So I ask myself isn't it time that some of the great music and folk programmes that appear on TV on all channels started to appear and that an initiative to record archive and show our folk related musical heritage was put in place? I have just seen the electric folk guitar programme, recently Ralph Vaughn Williams, Liza Carthy and The Transatlantic Sessions with Aly Baine and Phil Cunningham and Paul Brady There are Legends of folk music such as the late Tony Rose, the living Martin Carthy and Norma Waterson (and family), Dave Burland, Nick Jones, Martin Whyndham Read and newer Living Tradition Bearers such as Keith Kendrick, Brian Peters, Cockersdale, Jez Lowe, Bob Fox, Steve Tilston, Steve Turner, June Tabor, Maddy Prior, Alison McMorland, Cilla and Artie, High Level Ranters and on and on___ So whats it all about and yes I did also enjoy Cambridge ff coverage ~ more power to yer elbow John Leonard and all!! Ray |
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13 Oct 08 - 11:55 AM (#2464464) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: TheSnail Bob Copper. |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:11 PM (#2464477) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Uncle_DaveO A new twelve-part series of one-hour programmes. Each documenting the life, career, influence and contribution of twelve legendary figures of Folk Music. Twelve program(me)s, each with twelve legendary figures, so they are going to highlight one hundred forty-four musicians! Great! Dave Oesterreich |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:12 PM (#2464480) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:15 PM (#2464484) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,leeneia The media will never really go for folk music, because if the music's public domain, no money can be made off it through copyright. And if it doesn't make them money, it's okay to ridicule it. It's revealing that the advertiser preferred to ridicule another channel (although fictional) rather than concentrate on what on what he had to offer. No doubt because he had nothing much to offer! |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:19 PM (#2464488) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge I `it the loud pedal just then, too quickly. Anyway, I `ad that chairman of BT in my cab the other day. I said to `im, "On your latest tele ad, you`re taking the rise out of that folk music that is dear to many people`s `earts." `e said, "Well, that makes a change". I sadid, "Whadda you mean then?" `e said, "Well, normally they wheel out the Morris Dancers!!" Whaddam I Like?? |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:19 PM (#2464489) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Folk music is fair game. We ridicule the media, so let them get in their licks. It doesn't change the tune and the songs remain the same. |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:20 PM (#2464491) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Spleen Cringe What's a 'strapline'? Sounds like some kind of weird acoutrement for the sexual deviant It's for beating on the bared buttocks of be-chapped linedancers... or is that a 'linestrap'?... D'you you want a sensible answer, too? It'll be very boring... |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:23 PM (#2464494) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Bernard Well, the cable channels seem to get away with running the same three episodes of something-or-other over and over again... |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:26 PM (#2464495) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Harmonium Hero Never mind 'Leg Ends of Folk', what's wrong with 'Owl TV'? I think it's a hoot. Sorry (yeah, like) JK |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:26 PM (#2464496) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky In answer to your earlier question, one of them has to be Peter Bellamy, of course. Absolutely agreed, Spleen Cringe. And no offence taken or intended. Sorry, my maths was never very good. As Uncle_DaveO has pointed out, I made a gross error. It's 12 one-hour programmes featuring ONE artist each. All very UK so far....... |
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13 Oct 08 - 12:49 PM (#2464520) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Compton Was it not Oscar Wilde who that there was only one thing worse than being talked about...and that was NOT being talked about!! |
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13 Oct 08 - 01:34 PM (#2464560) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Will Fly So folk music's being ridiculed in the media is it? Hah - join the club! Try counting the number of times the librarian stereotype - female, glasses, plain, hair in a bun, sexless, going "shh" all the time (and that's just the men) is shown on TV. Count the number of times in the press where you can read "as boring as a librarian". So try being a librarian who plays folk music - double jeopardy... |
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13 Oct 08 - 01:56 PM (#2464578) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Big Al Whittle So try being a librarian who plays folk music and is a psycho killer and dribbles, and fondles without permission......... People are always taking the piss, but I bet its fun. |
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13 Oct 08 - 02:09 PM (#2464597) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Will Fly Have you been reading my biography? :-) |
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13 Oct 08 - 11:33 PM (#2464960) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace Stan Hugill. |
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14 Oct 08 - 12:36 AM (#2464985) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace "The latest BT Broadband advert (UK TV) shows a guy ridiculing the banale TV channels his friend's broadband package offers him." Ignore them. |
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14 Oct 08 - 12:39 AM (#2464986) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: The Fooles Troupe I contacted them - they didn't seem to care that I'm in Oz! So EVERYBODY now ask them when the program is on! :-) |
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14 Oct 08 - 01:35 AM (#2465010) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: open mike on the other hand how many folk songs put down television.. |
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14 Oct 08 - 01:39 AM (#2465011) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace None. They didn't have folksongs after TV was invented. In fact, if ya take some folks' definitions, they didn't have folksongs after electricity. |
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14 Oct 08 - 01:44 AM (#2465013) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Ernest BTW, what does "BT" stand for? Boring Trash? ;o) Ernest |
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14 Oct 08 - 05:47 AM (#2465100) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Bernard It could stand for many things...! 'British Telecom', which was known as 'Post Office Telephones' at one time - and somehow they seem to have forgotten they aren't a nationalised industry these days, clinging on to the impression that they are the biggest and best... those halcyon days are long gone! |
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14 Oct 08 - 08:26 AM (#2465168) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: theleveller Ah, bring back Beattie, I say. Now she really was amusing - and a damn sight more empathetic than the pretentious nerd they're using at the moment. |
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14 Oct 08 - 08:35 AM (#2465176) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Tim Leaning Hey where do I sign up for a folk channel? |
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14 Oct 08 - 11:02 AM (#2465303) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: DMcG No, no, no; you're all assuming the channel is about musicians: it's not, its about the Legends. Allison Gross - fact or fiction? Captain Wedderburn - his geneology explored. St Stephen and Herod - did they really meet? |
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14 Oct 08 - 12:35 PM (#2465411) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Charley Noble Now who was it who claimed "All the great folk singers are dead and I'm not feeling very well myself"? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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14 Oct 08 - 01:39 PM (#2465472) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Jayto Remember what they say "Any press is good press." At least they thought of folk music. It is better to be bashed than forgotten. It may spur some thought in someone to look into it. I used to make fun of the Big Joe Polka Show that comes on TV here. I got to watching it for laughs and turned out finding some songs that I really liked. Funny how things work that way but it does. |
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14 Oct 08 - 02:13 PM (#2465504) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego I opine that there is a lot more fun and creativity to be found on the margins than in losing yourself in a flock of sheep. |
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14 Oct 08 - 02:18 PM (#2465510) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace Read any "What is folk music" thread and you'll quickly see that we do a better job of ridiculing folk than any media outlet ever could. Besides, opinions are like assholes: everybody got one. |
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14 Oct 08 - 02:18 PM (#2465511) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Jayto You have that right TJ. I agree 100% |
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14 Oct 08 - 02:27 PM (#2465523) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace Have to disagree with you about TJ's post, JT. But you'd have to be Scottish or Canadian to understand . . . . |
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14 Oct 08 - 04:01 PM (#2465618) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,leeneia Remember what they say "Any press is good press." I don't believe it. Prove it. |
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14 Oct 08 - 04:03 PM (#2465621) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace After the guy promised he would never utter a pun for the rest of his life, the King agreed not to hang him. The fellow then said, "Well, no noose is good noose." |
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14 Oct 08 - 04:51 PM (#2465638) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Jayto Hey negativity got us to talking about it. I live in the US and the commercial doesnt't even show here but I know about it. That is my proof. Your turn lol jk |
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14 Oct 08 - 05:15 PM (#2465656) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace WHAT commercial? (Had to ask.) |
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14 Oct 08 - 05:34 PM (#2465672) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Jayto The one they started the thread about Peace lol. If you meant that sarcastically I am laughing as I type this lol. Oh yeah I liked the "no noose is good noose". Peace check out my myspace I added 2 songs written by me and Bankley. You may have heard them I think you have on the SHB site. Come to think about it yeah you have. Bankley did such a great job I went ahead and put them on my site. cya man |
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14 Oct 08 - 07:09 PM (#2465757) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Edthefolkie "Advertising cons you into thinking you're the one That can do what's never been done That can win what's never been won Meantime life outside goes on all around you" (from memory) Maybe the klutz who wrote that BT ad has heard of Bob Dylan but I suspect he's more a fan of Robbie Williams and Simon Cowell. Anyway he'll be made redundant next week hopefully. |
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14 Oct 08 - 07:19 PM (#2465769) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Tim Leaning Hey lets not use the r word. Some would say Folk is ...... Well you know ... R |
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14 Oct 08 - 07:19 PM (#2465770) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace I'll do that, JT. The post was just me fart-arsin around. |
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14 Oct 08 - 08:35 PM (#2465832) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Albert This reminds me of that spoof Fast Show advertisement for a folk compilation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGrAcUtP8AE |
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15 Oct 08 - 01:57 AM (#2465960) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Big Al Whittle Yeh good! if only it were that entertaining....people wouldn't be taking the piss. I'm not saying folkmusic is a branch of the entertainment industry, but you really do hear some VERY strange things around the clubs. more to do with the individuals need to get up and perform than a desire to give something to the audience. don't get me wrong - the folkclub has always been a place to learn the craft. But really too often - you're left thinking - this bugger doesn't know this song, doesn't know how it goes, and he's making up the words....sod me! he doesn't care! I dunno. I think I'm getting old and less tolerant of loveable English eccentrics. |
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15 Oct 08 - 02:33 AM (#2465973) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Perhaps its time to perform folk/folk based music a little bit better, and a little slicker! Good Lord, its been done before, and people stopped laughing, and bought it. It sure beats being a 'Kumbaya-er' the rest of your lives, and boring people to tears! |
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15 Oct 08 - 03:03 AM (#2465986) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Gervase Oh cripes, here we go again. You know you mustn't criticise the 'special ones' who make up half the playlist of the average f*** club! You'll have a fatwa declared before you can say "Bill Brewer, Jan Stewer, Peter Gurney, Peter Davy, Daniel Whiddon, Harry Hawk, Old Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and all". |
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15 Oct 08 - 03:30 AM (#2465996) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Liz the Squeak SO now I want to know Gervase, who are the 'special ones' and am I on that list?! LTS |
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15 Oct 08 - 03:56 AM (#2466010) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Who cares?? Write, sing, play, and do it well, and from your heart of hearts!...you'll be on the 'special list' |
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15 Oct 08 - 04:02 AM (#2466012) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace Liz, any lady with three tits is on EVERYbody's list. |
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15 Oct 08 - 04:44 AM (#2466036) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Gervase No, it's the 'care in the community' brigade, struggling through half-remembered, mumbled and inappropriate songs because they've suffered for their music, and now it's our turn. Good grief, I'd never include you in that number, Liz! |
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15 Oct 08 - 04:57 AM (#2466046) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Three tits!!blblblblblblbl..well, slap me in the face!...please! |
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15 Oct 08 - 05:30 AM (#2466068) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Peace I'll look for the thread. |
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15 Oct 08 - 09:04 AM (#2466208) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,One of those pesky young people "Owl TV Deep Sea Fishing Cats Do The Craziest Things and Legends of Folk Music." to misquote the advert 'legends of folk music, I'd pay to watch that'! There's music channels for every other type why not folk. |
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17 Oct 08 - 10:00 AM (#2468234) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: melodeonboy I decided to contact BT to see what sort of response I'd get. I wrote: "I've been searching the schedules for the "Legends of Folk Music" programme that was pointed out in your recent televison advert, but have been unable to find it. Perhaps in future adverts you could indicate where we might find this programme!" Their response: "Thank you for your e-mail dated 14/10/08 about I want to complain - I have a general complaint. I am sorry that you could not find the programme you were looking for. I have escalated your suggestion to my colleagues in our Marketing department for consideration. We do appreciate the time you have taken in providing your feedback. All customer suggestions are valued so thanks for continuing to help us provide a better service. Thank you for contacting BT." Yet again, fact is stranger (and significantly funnier) than fiction! You really couldn't invent an answer like that, could you? And I must confess to being rather excited by the prospect of my suggestion being "escalated". (Sounds a bit saucy to me, SNARFF, SNARFF!) |
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17 Oct 08 - 10:59 AM (#2468261) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky What's the betting it's on the 'down' escalator? |
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17 Oct 08 - 11:05 AM (#2468266) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,LDT Well maybe if we all request a legends of folk music channel...it might work in getting it on the up escalator ;) |
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17 Oct 08 - 11:06 AM (#2468269) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Anne Lister I think some of you have missed the point .. Kris Marshall's character in the ad is actually excited to watch "Bee Movie", (and would be prepared to pay for it!) which was pretty much rubbished by all reviewers. So his taste in programmes is likely to be dreadful anyway - so what would he know about quality programmes like "Legends of Folk Music"? If only it existed. Anne |
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17 Oct 08 - 11:32 AM (#2468292) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky Hey Anne - it DOES exist. In my head. I wish you could watch episode three, it's BRILLIANT (except for that pesky BT advert every 5 minutes). |
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17 Oct 08 - 11:42 AM (#2468302) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,LDT (accidentily hit return button) oops. Anyway I was going to say maybe this is time for a facebook campaign to get a folk channel. ;) "I wish you could watch episode three, it's BRILLIANT (except for that pesky BT advert every 5 minutes)." Who's on at the moment then? lol! |
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17 Oct 08 - 12:27 PM (#2468342) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky Peter Bellamy with the Coppers - after this short break. |
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17 Oct 08 - 04:46 PM (#2468570) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Aeola You know there is no bad publicity, all that has happened is that someone somewhere will be wondering what ' Legends of folk ' are! |
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18 Oct 08 - 04:59 PM (#2469367) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Becks I think there is alot more jokes about how rubbish BT is in comparison to taking the michael out of Folk music. BT had a website dedicated to how bad they are as a service provider www.btsucks.org unfortunately it was taken offline because of excessive traffic, lol. I would love to watch Legends of Folk Music, would be more interesting than most of the drivel on telly! |
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18 Oct 08 - 07:46 PM (#2469470) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST,Captain Swing Why not? Folkies are ridiculous. |
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19 Oct 08 - 06:37 AM (#2469757) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Tim Leaning "I think I'm getting old and less tolerant of loveable English eccentrics" Hmmmmmm You gotta learn to accept who you are man. LOL |
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19 Oct 08 - 01:48 PM (#2470052) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Big Al Whittle I think if they had a channel called Legends of folk Music - it would be rubbish. You're better off choosing what you like off YOUtube. If only it downloaded nicely and easily. Tim, I've accepted that I'm old. |
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22 Oct 08 - 05:09 AM (#2472543) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky Well folks, they ran THAT ad again last night during the European football and guess what? THEY'D REMOVED THE LINE ABOUT 'LEGENDS OF FOLK MUSIC'!! It's been replaced by 'Pandora's Box TV' or somesuch. And in the very same week we got Legends: The Chieftains on TV. Coincidence? HA! |
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22 Oct 08 - 10:28 AM (#2472748) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: Jayto I like to be ridiculed. If I sought the hands down praise of the corporate world I would be a pop singer or writer. If they don't like me or my music then I am doing something right lol. If I don't like Brittany Spears why do I care if Britanny Spears doesn't like me. I crack on pop music and the mindless sheep that fall for all image and no conviction all the time. I really don't care if they laugh at me and my taste in music as well. That just means they don't get my beliefs and songs just like I don't get thiers. Let them bash me and folk music. If a top rated pop star opened for Bob Dylan I wouldn't go. If Bob Dylan opened for a top rated pop star I wouldn't go and would be mad that he was opening. Thinking about it that is dumb but that is sort of the mentality. I think everyone thinks they would like to have more Folk pushed by TV,Radio, and the music industry but if you really think about it would that really be that cool. Look at what the corporate fat cats did to rock, country, pop, just about every music style they decided to push. I think the idea is one that seems cool but in the end would be disastrous. I like it the way it is. I liked being mocked. |
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22 Oct 08 - 04:32 PM (#2473073) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST Talking about folk music being ridiculed - in Monday's Irish Daily Mail there was a strip cartoon with a picture of a new grave. On the tombstone there was the legend :- "????? ??????, Morris dancer and banjo player". (Can't remember the name). Around the grave the mourners had funny hats on and had drinks in their hand. Didn't have the chance to check out the English version of the paper. |
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23 Oct 08 - 04:00 PM (#2474035) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: SPB-Cooperator Thers a slight 'glitch' where the change has been edited in |
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24 Oct 08 - 05:04 AM (#2474576) Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again From: GUEST, Sminky Yeah, I noticed that, SPB-Cooperator. They ran it at least twice last night during the footy on Channel 5. Strangely though, whilst the first one had an obvious glitch, the second one apparently didn't (and I was looking out for it). Can they edit these things so quickly? |