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13 Oct 08 - 02:52 PM (#2464629) Subject: Books about Folk From: Les in Chorlton I have enjoyed a number of books about Folk / Folklore / Traditions including: Folk Song in England, Stations of the Sun, The English Year, Anybody recommend any other essential or good reads? Cheers L in C |
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13 Oct 08 - 03:03 PM (#2464638) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Rapparee Pete Seeger Tommy Makem "In Search of the Craic" come to mind immediately. |
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13 Oct 08 - 03:04 PM (#2464639) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST,CSL Song for every Season - Bob Copper |
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13 Oct 08 - 03:15 PM (#2464644) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: nutty also Early to Rise Songs and Southern Breezes ....both by Bob Copper Folk - A portrait of English Traditional Music, Musicians and Customs by Bob Pegg |
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13 Oct 08 - 03:17 PM (#2464648) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Jack Blandiver The Ladybird Book of Folk Song, which has a full page painting of that fateful moment back 1903 when Cecil Sharp heard John England singing The Seeds of Love. Alas, I do not have a copy myself, otherwise I'd scan it in for all the world to see. Anyone??? My favourite book on music right now is Deke Leonard's Rhinos Winos and Lunatics - The Legend of Man, a Rock n' Roll Band; the prequel Maybe I Should've Stayed in Bed - The Flipside of the Rock n' Roll Dream is pretty good too. Essential reading for anyone who loves music and good, honest writing from someone who's lived most of their life in the trenches of real music and somehow lived to tell the tale. |
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13 Oct 08 - 03:32 PM (#2464663) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST,doc.tom Come All Ye Bold Miners: Lloyd. English Folk Song Some Conclusions: Sharp. Last Night's Fun: Carson. The Fellowship of Song: Dunn. Song And Democratic Culture In Britain: Watson. Popular Music In England: Russell. The Ballad And The Folk: Buchan. The Stone Fiddle: Tunney. The Idiom Of The People: Reeves. - if I get time I'll go and look at the bookshelf as well! |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:53 PM (#2464793) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Spleen Cringe Richard Lewis: The Magic Spring If you fancy something lighthearted and fun... |
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13 Oct 08 - 06:59 PM (#2464798) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: terrier The Betsy Whyte books give a vivid insight into the lives and ways of the Scots 'Travellers' between wars and just after the second world war. That's what 'folk' means to me. |
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13 Oct 08 - 07:18 PM (#2464807) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Folkiedave Then of course you could get in touch with me - I have a (very out of date) website and can sell you all the books you ever dreamed about!! Blatant plug over. |
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13 Oct 08 - 07:27 PM (#2464813) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: quokka Bound for Glory - Woody Guthrie And a Voice to Sing With - Joan Baez Cheers, Quokka |
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13 Oct 08 - 07:38 PM (#2464820) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST,Gerry Singing Family of the Cumberlands, by Jean Ritchie. |
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13 Oct 08 - 09:38 PM (#2464906) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: jacko@nz Set Into Song, the story of the making of the Radio Ballads, by Peter Cox. |
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14 Oct 08 - 12:46 AM (#2464990) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: cptsnapper I've just been browsing through the English Folk Song Bibliography: An Introductory Bibliography Based on the Holdings of the Vaughan Williams Memorial Library which is also worth checking out. |
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14 Oct 08 - 04:46 AM (#2465084) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Fred McCormick The English Folk Song Bibliography is on-line at http://www.efdss.org/resind.htm . Unfortunately it's in PDF, which doesn't make searching it very easy. But the entries include useful thumbnail guides to the contents. |
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14 Oct 08 - 05:07 AM (#2465089) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST See the previous Basic Folk Library thread |
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14 Oct 08 - 05:39 AM (#2465098) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: davyr "Unfortunately it's in PDF, which doesn't make searching it very easy" What's difficult about searching in a PDF file? You just use the "search" box for a word or phrase and scroll through the hits it finds. |
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14 Oct 08 - 06:34 AM (#2465119) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST,Suffolk Miracle Bob Pegg - Folk - not as basic as t first looks - and fabulous photographs Ewan McColl - Doomsday in the Afternoon - seminal book on travellers' music in general and Belle Stewart in particular |
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14 Oct 08 - 09:05 AM (#2465198) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: SteveMansfield 'History and the Morris Dance' by John Cutting - discursive and conversational but at the same time very informative, a book narrated with an enthusiast's voice seeking to disentangle the myths from the history. And another vote for Ciaron Carson's 'Last Night's Fun' - poetic, impressionistic, and beautifully observed. Quite simply the best book I've ever read about music, LNF captures what playing the music actually feels like, what traditional music means to people, and about the social aspects of music-making. |
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14 Oct 08 - 11:51 AM (#2465365) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Mark Ross The BEST book I've ever read about folksinging and folksingers is Jimmy Longhi's WOODY, CISCO, AND ME, about his merchant marine voyages with them during WWII! Mark Ross |
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14 Oct 08 - 12:08 PM (#2465379) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: sian, west wales My sister gave me Joe Klein's "Woody Guthrie: A Life" a few Christmases back which I enjoyed immensely. A ot of my other 'faves' are Welsh language I guess, although I do tend to rattle on about "Singing Cowboys and Musical Mountaineers" and "Sound of the Dove", both of which I came across in the "Basic Folk Library" thread, link as kindly provided above. (How does one find the old Permathreads these days?) sian |
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14 Oct 08 - 12:14 PM (#2465385) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST,Russ "All That Is Native and Fine: The Politics of Culture in an American Region" by David E. Whisnant Heavy, but a classic, and very informative. Russ (permanent GUEST and aging folkie) |
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14 Oct 08 - 12:38 PM (#2465414) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Les in Chorlton Books about Folk so far: 1. 'In search of the craic' by Colin Irwin 2. Song for every Season - Bob Copper 3. Early to Rise Songs and Southern Breezes ....both by Bob Copper 4. Folk - A portrait of English Traditional Music, Musicians and Customs by Bob Pegg 5. The Ladybird Book of Folk Song, 6. Deke Leonard's Rhinos Winos and Lunatics - The Legend of Man, a Rock n' Roll Band; the prequel Maybe I Should've Stayed in Bed - The Flipside of the Rock n' Roll Dream 7. Come All Ye Bold Miners: Lloyd. 8. English Folk Song Some Conclusions: Sharp. 9. Last Night's Fun: Carson. 10. The Fellowship of Song: Dunn. 11. Song And Democratic Culture In Britain: Watson. 12. Popular Music In England: Russell. 13. The Ballad And The Folk: Buchan. 14. The Stone Fiddle: Tunney. 15. The Idiom Of The People: Reeves. 16. Richard Lewis: The Magic Spring 17. The Betsy Whyte - the lives and ways of the Scots 'Travellers' 18. Bound for Glory - Woody Guthrie 19. And a Voice to Sing With - Joan Baez 20. Singing Family of the Cumberlands, by Jean Ritchie. 21. Set Into Song, the story of the making of the Radio Ballads, by Peter Cox. 22. English Folk Song Bibliography: An Introductory Bibliography Based on the Holdings of the Vaughan Williams Memorial Library 23. The English Folk Song Bibliography is on-line at http://www.efdss.org/resind.htm 24. See the previous Basic Folk Library thread 25. Ewan McColl - Doomsday in the Afternoon - seminal book on travellers' music in general and Belle Stewart in particular 26. 'History and the Morris Dance' by John Cutting 27. Joe Klein's "Woody Guthrie 28. "Singing Cowboys and Musical Mountaineers" and "Sound of the Dove" 29. "All That Is Native and Fine: The Politics of Culture in an American Region" by David E. Whisnant 30. I think Folkiedave might have a few of these? Cheers Les |
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14 Oct 08 - 01:02 PM (#2465439) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Spleen Cringe I've got about forty at my house, Les, that I haven't got time to list. You're welcome to browse and borrow though, as you're only round the corner, which means the elastic attaching them to the bookcase will just about stretch that far... Email or PM me. Cheers Spleeno |
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14 Oct 08 - 01:04 PM (#2465442) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Les in Chorlton Thanks El Spleeno that's very kind El Les |
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14 Oct 08 - 01:36 PM (#2465469) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Folkiedave Hi, It is a blatant advert - but I have a few of these. But at the end of a summer season of festivals - not many. I have 8, and 20 only. However if there is anything that people are looking for - I am already booked at two festivals next year; anyone near or passing through Sheffield is welcome to call as many do. |
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14 Oct 08 - 02:00 PM (#2465487) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: quokka Strange Affair - by Patrick Humphries, bio of Richard Thompson. Very good book. I would recommend it to anyone interested in Fairport or Richard. cheers, Quokka |
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14 Oct 08 - 02:26 PM (#2465521) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST,doc.tom "And another vote for Ciaron Carson's 'Last Night's Fun' - poetic, impressionistic, and beautifully observed. Quite simply the best book I've ever read about music, LNF captures what playing the music actually feels like, what traditional music means to people, and about the social aspects of music-making." Abso-bloody-lutely - and from a man who was a Northern Irish part of The Arts Council!! - if only. |
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14 Oct 08 - 02:34 PM (#2465531) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: quokka Does anyone remember the book by E.V.Thompson - 'The Music Makers'? Set in Ireland in 1840's. Title from O'Shaunnessy's poem: WE are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, 5 On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. With wonderful deathless ditties We build up the world's great cities, 10 And out of a fabulous story We fashion an empire's glory: One man with a dream, at pleasure, Shall go forth and conquer a crown; And three with a new song's measure 15 Can trample an empire down. We, in the ages lying In the buried past of the earth, Built Nineveh with our sighing, And Babel itself with our mirth; 20 And o'erthrew them with prophesying To the old of the new world's worth; For each age is a dream that is dying, Or one that is coming to birth. I've always loved this poem Quokka |
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14 Oct 08 - 05:56 PM (#2465693) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Burke Alan Lomax: The land where the blues began |
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14 Oct 08 - 06:53 PM (#2465741) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST,JimP The Rose and the Briar: Death, Love and Liberty in the American Ballad by Wilentz and Marcous. It had a companion CD too, with examples of the ballads discussed. |
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14 Oct 08 - 07:10 PM (#2465758) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Sue Allan The Invention of Folk Music and Art Music - Matthew Gelbart |
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15 Oct 08 - 04:52 AM (#2466044) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: sian, west wales I suppose I could/should mention a book about books. "Cerddoriaeth Draddodiadol yng Nghymru: Llyfryddiaeth - Traditional Music in Wales: Bibliography" is bilingual and quite a useful catalogue of main printed collections, research publications and research dissertations dealing with, well ... like it says on the label. I find it useful when I need a bump-start on looking something up. ISBN: 1-84527-080-0 sian |
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15 Oct 08 - 07:35 AM (#2466147) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Big Al Whittle title of this thread reminds me of a time I was watching the big telly screen in Harrogate LLoyds bank - waiting in the queue. The telly is tuned to the news channel, and Ken livingstone's head pops up on the screen, and I said, ooooh! Livingstone! A rather taciturn lady in the queue behind me said, Ah never watch tha news! Its nowt but talking about folk... I expect these books are nowt but reading about folk... |
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15 Oct 08 - 07:53 AM (#2466160) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Brian Peters David Atkinson: 'The English Traditional Ballad' MacColl & Seeger's 'Travellers' Songs from England and Scotland' is a song book really, but has a lot of interesting information about the singers and their communities. As does Frank & Anne Warner's 'Traditional American Folk Songs'. Surely someone must have mentioned Joe Boyd's 'White Bicycles'? But I don't see it on on your list, Les. And can I add to the chorus of acclamation for Carson's 'Last Night's Fun'. Informative, funny, gets under the skin of musical culture like few others. |
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15 Oct 08 - 01:56 PM (#2466482) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: Les in Chorlton Ok Folks an update: Books about Folk 1. 'In search of the craic' by Colin Irwin 2. Song for every Season - Bob Copper 3. Early to Rise Songs and Southern Breezes ....both by Bob Copper 4. Folk - A portrait of English Traditional Music, Musicians and Customs by Bob Pegg 5. The Ladybird Book of Folk Song, 6. Deke Leonard's Rhinos Winos and Lunatics - The Legend of Man, a Rock n' Roll Band; the prequel Maybe I Should've Stayed in Bed - The Flipside of the Rock n' Roll Dream 7. Come All Ye Bold Miners: Lloyd. 8. English Folk Song Some Conclusions: Sharp. 9. Last Night's Fun: Carson. 10. The Fellowship of Song: Dunn. 11. Song And Democratic Culture In Britain: Watson. 12. Popular Music In England: Russell. 13. The Ballad And The Folk: Buchan. 14. The Stone Fiddle: Tunney. 15. The Idiom Of The People: Reeves. 16. Richard Lewis: The Magic Spring 17. The Betsy Whyte - the lives and ways of the Scots 'Travellers' 18. Bound for Glory - Woody Guthrie 19. And a Voice to Sing With - Joan Baez 20. Singing Family of the Cumberlands, by Jean Ritchie. 21. Set Into Song, the story of the making of the Radio Ballads, by Peter Cox. 22. English Folk Song Bibliography: An Introductory Bibliography Based on the Holdings of the Vaughan Williams Memorial Library 23. The English Folk Song Bibliography is on-line at http://www.efdss.org/resind.htm 24. See the previous Basic Folk Library thread 25. Ewan McColl - Doomsday in the Afternoon - seminal book on travellers' music in general and Belle Stewart in particular 26. 'History and the Morris Dance' by John Cutting 27. Joe Klein's "Woody Guthrie 28. "Singing Cowboys and Musical Mountaineers" and "Sound of the Dove" 29. "All That Is Native and Fine: The Politics of Culture in an American Region" by David E. Whisnant 30. Strange Affair - by Patrick Humphries, bio of Richard Thompson. 31. E.V.Thompson - 'The Music Makers'? 32. Alan Lomax: The land where the blues began 33. The Rose and the Briar: Death, Love and Liberty in the American Ballad by Wilentz and Marcous 34. The Invention of Folk Music and Art Music - Matthew Gelbart 35. Cerddoriaeth Draddodiadol yng Nghymru: Llyfryddiaeth - Traditional Music in Wales: Bibliography" 36. David Atkinson: 'The English Traditional Ballad' 37. MacColl & Seeger's 'Travellers' Songs from England and Scotland 38. Frank & Anne Warner's 'Traditional American Folk Songs'. 39. Joe Boyd's 'White Bicycles Chiz L in C |
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15 Oct 08 - 07:52 PM (#2466805) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: quokka One from Australia: Sing For Me, Countryman by Neil Murray (1993) "Murray is an activist, a hobo, a mover and a shaker, making music from the heart and conscience of Australia." - Soundtrax (quoted from the front cover of the book) |
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15 Oct 08 - 08:12 PM (#2466824) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: meself Father of the Blues - W.C. Handy (okay, not exactly folk - but a terrific read). The Vanishing Cape Breton Fiddler by .... (help me out here, George!). |
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16 Oct 08 - 12:22 AM (#2466925) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: GUEST,Matt Dazzling Stranger about Bert Jansch and friends, is a great read. |
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16 Oct 08 - 01:09 AM (#2466942) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: meself Before the Fame - Stompin' Tom Connors. A great look at life in the underclass of Canada in the 1950s. |
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16 Oct 08 - 10:28 AM (#2467262) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: davyr "The Vanishing Cape Breton Fiddler by .... (help me out here, George!). " This appears to have been a TV documentary rather than a book: http://www.capebretonfiddlers.com/history.html http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/3954 |
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16 Oct 08 - 11:10 AM (#2467302) Subject: RE: Books about Folk From: meself No, there was a follow-up book, which consisted of a series of short biographies of Cape Breton fiddlers. I may have the title a bit wrong. (My books are all packed up, so I can't check). |