BS: Bush's October Surrpise?

26 Oct 08 - 06:41 PM (#2476816)
Subject: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: McGrath of Harlow

'US troops' strike inside Syria

US helicopter-borne troops have carried out a raid inside Syria along the Iraqi border, killing eight people including four children, Syrian officials say....

This looks very like a last ditch effort by Bush to help his friends in the election. Might even work, especially if he can trigger a response in which a few Americans get killed...

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26 Oct 08 - 08:39 PM (#2476901)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: McGrath of Harlow

Here's a vid of Michael Tomasky of the Guardian today speculating about Bush carrying out a military attack as an electoral ploy, and deciding that it would probably be too blatant for him to get much leverage from it, given how unpopular he is right now. ("Will the Bush administration try to pull a last-minute trick to help John McCain, asks Michael Tomasky")

Of course, this was made before this raid on Syria happened, or at least before the news broke. Still, maybe he is right about it not being likely to work.

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26 Oct 08 - 08:43 PM (#2476904)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Charley Noble

Could be.

Syria makes more sense than nuking Russia.

But the Republicans will do anything if they're desperate.

Charley Noble

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26 Oct 08 - 08:45 PM (#2476905)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Barry Finn

I was a one time worried that Bush would try to pull off a 3rd world war or something to that effect in order to get another republican voted into office but that fear has subsided now, He has had to many fuck-ups, is to unpopular, & is to silenced as the lamest duck in history. BUT, I still wouldn't rule out the republicans dropping a bomb on US to sway a vote their way, in a last ditch effort to retain rule.

Barry

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26 Oct 08 - 09:32 PM (#2476919)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: GUEST,heric

The October surprise may be that the Republicans decided many months ago to throw this election, and let the Democrats clean up the disaster(s). Syria may be just another little vandalism to that end.

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26 Oct 08 - 09:39 PM (#2476923)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: CarolC

It's not much of a surprise if everyone expects it. **rolls eyes**

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27 Oct 08 - 02:07 PM (#2477368)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Donuel

A surprise that would cast a giant shadow would be a code red decree.
Justification for a code red doesn't really have to be something real and catastrophic. I hope they would realize this if a code red is their last resort.

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27 Oct 08 - 03:21 PM (#2477418)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: McGrath of Harlow

If the Syrian foreign minister's claim that the dead were "a father and his three children, a farm guard and his wife, and a fisherman" (
They really need a response from Syria or some group that can be labelled as surrogates for Syria other than mere diplomatic protest if they are going to be able to build this up into something that pushes te right buttons with the American public.

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27 Oct 08 - 03:23 PM (#2477421)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: McGrath of Harlow

If the Syrian foreign minister's claim that the dead were "a father and his three children, a farm guard and his wife, and a fisherman" (Syria hits out at 'terrorist' US - BBC News), stands up, I can't imagine it will really help McCain too much.

They really need a response from Syria (or some group that can be labelled as surrogates for Syria) other than mere diplomatic protest, if they are going to be able to build this up into something that pushes the right buttons with the American public.

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27 Oct 08 - 04:38 PM (#2477485)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: SINSULL

Sorry - what is a "code red decree"?

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27 Oct 08 - 04:44 PM (#2477496)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: jeffp

The "Threat Status." Or Fear Status, if you will.

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27 Oct 08 - 04:50 PM (#2477508)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: SINSULL

o 1. Increasing or redirecting personnel to address critical emergency needs;
o 2. Assigning emergency response personnel and pre-positioning and mobilizing specially trained teams or resources;
o 3.Monitoring, redirecting, or constraining transportation systems; and
o 4.Closing public and government facilities.

Assuming anyone tried this, Election Day might be postponed but not eliminated. I don't see this happening but I didn't see September 11th either.

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27 Oct 08 - 05:00 PM (#2477523)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: DougR

Bush's October surprise: Laura is pregnant.

DougR

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27 Oct 08 - 05:01 PM (#2477526)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Stringsinger

This is not a surprise as Carol has stated. Bush has a "Wag The Dog" mentality and
some of you might remember Larry Beinart's book or have seen the movie with Dustin
Hoffman. I would think that if the US was in it's right mind, this strategy would backfire because it would decrease national security rather than increase it.

Obama is talking diplomacy and as long as that path is followed, we may have more
security and less risk than foreign incursions and making enemies.

Nuking a foreign country is a lot like shooting wolves from helicopters.

It's absolutely stupid.

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27 Oct 08 - 05:12 PM (#2477539)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Bobert

This cannot help McCain... The American people aren't buying yet another screwed up war...

B~

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28 Oct 08 - 10:11 AM (#2478098)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: SINSULL

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Laura+Bush+Divorce&FORM=QSRE


Condi Rice is part of the problem according the tabloids.

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28 Oct 08 - 11:21 AM (#2478162)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: McGrath of Harlow

Interesting to see how easily the death of a few Arabs gets disregarded...

I note the White House is refusing to comment on this episode - see this White House "press conference".

That seems to suggest that they are maybe worried they might have to distance themselves from it, shift the blame down to some lower level, and say that those responsible were acting on their own. Shades of Abu Ghraib...

And they call this kind of thing a "war on terror"...

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28 Oct 08 - 12:12 PM (#2478213)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Donuel

A document was introduced regarding a 27 year old Obama arrested for a DWI.


(I think they whited out Bush's name and put in Barack's :)

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28 Oct 08 - 12:37 PM (#2478236)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Amos

The real OCtober surprise is how vapid Ms Palin is.


A

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28 Oct 08 - 02:01 PM (#2478328)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: PoppaGator

That may have been a surprise early on, Amos, but it played out a while ago. By the time the Katie Couric interviews were broadcast, we all had pretty much formed our ideas about our latest political celebrity.

By October first, Caribou Barbie's vapidity was already a given.

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28 Oct 08 - 02:40 PM (#2478360)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Joe Offer

Well, I see on Saturday Night Live that Bush has endorsed McCain-Palin. In all the seriousness of this election, don't forget the delicious humor.
-Joe-

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28 Oct 08 - 03:01 PM (#2478388)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Jayto

I am really nervous about what kid of surprises lay in store for this upcoming election. I expect it to be another for the record books. It is sad that you sit around wonderinga about what is going to happen instead of who is going to win. We are in a sad sad shape.

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28 Oct 08 - 03:06 PM (#2478392)
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's October Surrpise?
From: Amos

Aw, PoppaG I gotta admit you're right about that.

So maybe the OCtober surprise will be McCain having a temper tantrum and throwing his shoe at Palin's hairdo?


A

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