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02 Nov 08 - 05:33 PM (#2482721) Subject: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw When we kicked â€" along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said, and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know â€" if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it |
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02 Nov 08 - 05:44 PM (#2482734) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sorcha Uh, you wanna come back and fix all that code that didn't paste right? Ta! |
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02 Nov 08 - 06:22 PM (#2482773) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "Look, John's last-minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number-one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. the number-one job facing the middle class????? |
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02 Nov 08 - 08:31 PM (#2482874) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw To a voter: "I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do, I suspect. I graduated from law school with a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class to have a full...." NY Times Most of Mr. Biden's statement was in response to a report in this week's issue of Newsweek magazine on a tape recording made by the C-SPAN network of an appearance by Mr. Biden at a home in Claremont, N.H., on April 3. It was a typical coffee-klatch style appearance before a small group. The network regularly records and broadcasts such events as part of its coverage of the Presidential campaign. The tape, which was made available by C-SPAN in response to a reporter's request, showed a testy exchange in response to a question about his law school record from a man identified only as ''Frank.'' Mr. Biden looked at his questioner and said: ''I think I have a much higher I.Q. than you do.'' He then went on to say that he ''went to law school on a full academic scholarship - the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,'' Mr. Biden said. He also said that he ''ended up in the top half'' of his class and won a prize in an international moot court competition. In college, Mr. Biden said in the appearance, he was ''the outstanding student in the political science department'' and ''graduated with three degrees from college.'' Comments on Assertions In his statement today, Mr. Biden, who attended the Syracuse College of Law and graduated 76th in a class of 85, acknowledged: ''I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inacurate.'' As for receiving three degrees, Mr. Biden said: ''I graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major in history and political science. My reference to degrees at the Claremont event was intended to refer to these majors - I said 'three' and should have said 'two.' '' Mr. Biden received a single B.A. in history and political science. ''With regard to my being the outstanding student in the political science department,'' the statement went on. ''My name was put up for that award by David Ingersoll, who is still at the University of Delaware.'' In the Sunday interview, Mr. Biden said of his claim that he went to school on full academic scholarship: ''My recollection is - and I'd have to confirm this - but I don't recall paying any money to go to law school.'' Newsweek said Mr. Biden had gone to Syracuse ''on half scholarship based on financial need.'' Says He Also Received Grants. In his statement today, Mr. Biden did not directly dispute this, but said he received a scholarship from the Syracuse University College of Law ''based in part on academics'' as well as a grant from the Higher Education Scholarship Fund of the state of Delaware. He said the law school ''arranged for my first year's room and board by placing me as an assitant resident adviser in the undergraduate school.'' Mr. Biden acknowledged that in the testy exchange in New Hampshire, he had lost his temper. ''I exaggerate when I'm angry,'' Mr. Biden said, ''but I've never gone around telling people things that aren't true about me.'' Mr. Biden's questioner had made the query in a mild tone, but provoked an explosive response from Mr. Biden. |
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02 Nov 08 - 08:35 PM (#2482880) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Ed T "Shallow ideas are plumbed and discarded" Gilbert Highet |
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02 Nov 08 - 08:40 PM (#2482889) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Ed T Stock prices plummeted, as plumb-bob Joe displayed his political plumosity. |
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02 Nov 08 - 09:00 PM (#2482904) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw New York Times: Mr. Biden said, ''but I've never gone around telling people things that aren't true about me.'' Mr. Biden's questioner had made the query in a mild tone, but provoked an explosive response from Mr. Biden. [just the temperament for America's foreign relations expert] As for the continued, minute probing of his past, Mr. Biden told The Times: ''I guess every single word I've ever said is going to be dissected now.'' Mr. Biden's campaign staff met this weekend in Wilmington, Del., in an effort to come up with a strategy in face of the building controversy. A senior adviser to the Biden campaign dismissed speculatrion that he would withdraw from the contest. ''Of course he's going to stay in,'' the adviser said, dismissing the recent reports on Mr. Biden as ''random press frenzy.'' The adviser said the latest troubles might ''free'' Mr. Biden to ''get into being himself'' and to campaign as an aggressive ''populist, anti-Establishment'' candidate and a defender of the interests of the American middle class. Mr. Biden, whose Presidential campaign has been shaken by news reports about his unattributed use of speeches from other politicians and a plagiarism incident while he was in law school, said in The Times interview that he was ''frustrated'' and ''angry as hell'' over the reports. [I hope he does not get his hands on the Football with this bad temper of his] Mr. Biden was going through his political agony even as he presided over hearings tonight on the confirmation of Judge Robert H. Bork to the Supreme Court. Exhausted top aides found their attention constantly torn between the crucial hearings and their principal's political future. Intends to Stay in Race Late tonight, for example, Mr. Biden called a meeting of his senior staff to discuss the effects of the recent developments on his campaign. But senior aides said they did not know if it would even take place as the Bork hearings dragged into the night. Although a high-level aide denied that Mr. Biden was contemplating withdrawing from the race, several Washington politicians here said they believed he was considering this possibility. On Sunday night, Mr. Biden said emphatically that he intended to remain a candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination. ''I think if I can get by the next week, I can pull out of this if I can just get my story across,'' he said. Then he queeet as they say up in 'Ol Wes'ginny. |
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03 Nov 08 - 09:10 AM (#2483214) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America." "Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy." "He’s gonna have to make some really tough - I don't know what the decision's gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's gonna happen." "We're going to face a major international challenge. Because they're going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They're going to want to test him. And they’re going to find out this guy’s got steel in his spine," |
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03 Nov 08 - 09:20 AM (#2483226) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Big Mick Sawzaw, yours are the desperate postings of one who can't stand the fact that your candidates are going to lose. So Biden spoke inaccurately, I will still stack his lies and stretching of the fact against Palin's. And the facts are that he is qualified to step into the Presidency if need be. Palin is not, even according to respected Republicans. So keep posting your pitiful diatribe. Tomorrow this will be over, and you will have a black man as your President. I hope you dream of that all night long. But it will provide you with the opportunity to spend the next 4 and possibly 8 years making up lies, and filling your days and nights with hatred. Enjoy. |
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03 Nov 08 - 09:44 AM (#2483243) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw If it is in the bag, what difference does it make? Why would you waste your time? I am merely repeating what your VP elect has said. That should be a plus for you. And why are you injecting race into it? Are you a racist? Here is something your VP elect said: "I think he [Obama] can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training". "I think that I stand by the statement." |
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03 Nov 08 - 10:21 AM (#2483289) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off. |
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03 Nov 08 - 11:19 AM (#2483345) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw Campaign Manager Luis Navarro: "If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America's children, they should support another candidate" "But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action" |
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03 Nov 08 - 11:20 AM (#2483349) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "Frankly, I think I'm more qualified than other candidates, and the issues facing the American public are all in my wheelbarrow." |
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03 Nov 08 - 01:43 PM (#2483477) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Big Mick Do you have any original thoughts or are they all cut and paste? |
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04 Nov 08 - 12:56 AM (#2484084) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw These are all quotes from VP elect Joe. "Part of what being a leader does is to instill confidence, is to demonstrate what he or she knows what they are talking about and to communicating to people ... this is how we can fix this.. ..When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed. He said, 'look, here's what happened" Ahhhhhhh, the stock market crashed in 1929 and Herbert Hoover was prez from 1929 thru 1933. FDR was the Governor of New York in 1929. There was no TV available to the public until 1939. Yeah Joe, we got it. You have demonstrated that you know what you are talking about and we have confidence in you as a leader. |
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04 Nov 08 - 02:06 AM (#2484093) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany" of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. "I've seen zero evidence of that." |
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04 Nov 08 - 02:08 AM (#2484094) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "I guarantee you, Barack Obama ain't taking my shotguns, so don't buy that malarkey. They're going to start peddling that to you. I got two, if he tries to fool with my Beretta, he's got a problem. I like that little over and under, you know? I'm not bad with it. So give me a break. Give me a break." |
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04 Nov 08 - 02:14 AM (#2484097) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw I was shot at seven times inside Iraq's Green Zone. Later: I was near where a shot landed....a shot landed outside the building in the Green Zone where he .. spent the night in December 2005. While they were shaving in the morning, the building shook. No one got up and ran from the room-it wasn't that kind of thing...It's not like I had someone holding a gun to my head. |
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04 Nov 08 - 11:00 AM (#2484488) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "Uh, you wanna come back and fix all that code that didn't paste right? Ta!" When we kicked -- along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know -- if you don't, Hezbollah will control it. Does anybody have the translation? |
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04 Nov 08 - 11:38 AM (#2484533) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "You don't know my state. My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state is the eighth largest black population in the country. My state is anything from a northeast liberal state,a slave state that fought beside the North. That's only because we couldn't figure out how to get to the South. There were a couple of states in the way." While most of Delaware's citizens sympathized with the south, most of Delaware's trade was with the north. Residents of the State were divided in their sympathies. Many Delawareans left and served in the Confederate army. Even more enlisted in defense of the Union, and Delaware troops distinguished themselves at Antietam, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville, Gettysburg and other battlefields. Delaware's reputation for valor, earned by the Blue Hen Regiment that served under Brother Washington during the Revolution, was upheld during the Civil War. In 1847 a gradual emancipation bill that would have freed all African-Americans born into slavery after 1850 made it out of committee, with a recommendation of approval on economic grounds. Industrial Wilmington was eager to keep up with its bigger rivals, and the Northern political rhetoric of the times held that free laboring men, working to better their condition in factories or on farms, were the key to a region's prosperity. The committee report warned that "the carelessness, slovenly and unproductive husbandry visible in some parts of our state, undoubtedly result mainly from the habit of depending on slave labor. It is no longer a disputable question that slave labor impoverishes, while free labor enriches people." The House passed the bill, by a vote of 12 to 8, 13 years before the civil war started. Black persons, percent, 2006....Delaware 20.9%...USA 12.8% #1 New York: 2,892,357 #2 Florida: 2,557,098 #3 Georgia: 2,468,870 #4 Texas: 2,455,655 #5 California: 2,211,000 #6 Illinois: 1,865,912 #7 North Carolina: 1,774,909 #8 Maryland: 1,494,489 #9 Louisiana: 1,430,039 #10 Michigan: 1,401,812 ................ #32 Delaware: 157,131 Say it ain't so Joe. |
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04 Nov 08 - 04:25 PM (#2484861) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "I guarantee you Barack Obama ain't taking my shotguns, so don't buy that malarkey," "If he tries to fool with my Beretta, he's got a problem." "I like that little over and under, you know? I'm not bad with it," |
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04 Nov 08 - 07:52 PM (#2485020) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "You cannot go into a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. Oh, I'm not joking." |
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04 Nov 08 - 08:12 PM (#2485042) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: catspaw49 Joe got his ass whipped for fair on CNN today. Laughed my ass off! Spaw |
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04 Nov 08 - 09:54 PM (#2485130) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you," Falsely humble????? Certainly not. |
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04 Nov 08 - 11:01 PM (#2485161) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: CarolC Y'all have fun here on this thread. The rest of us are gonna PARTAAAYYYY!!! |
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05 Nov 08 - 11:23 AM (#2485689) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me." |
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07 Nov 08 - 12:51 AM (#2487207) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: Sawzaw "I don't recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic" |
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07 Nov 08 - 03:42 AM (#2487253) Subject: RE: BS: Quotes from Joe the Fumbler From: kendall He also admitted that he has a tendency to "Bloviate". A politician admitting a flaw? You left that out Sawzaw. |