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Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs

15 Dec 08 - 11:12 AM (#2515825)
Subject: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

We at the Yorkshire Garland website are continuing our second phase and I am creating a list which we hope will attain 40 songs of mining and industrial content of which we hope we will have the provenance, digital recording and permission to include in our website!

Yorkshire relevance is key to our quest and CDs in WAV with songs are extremely useful, although I/we are at the listing stage at the moment and cannot say that all received will be put on the website!!

Mining songs in Yorkshire are some what in short supply and we are now in the contemporary field for good songs in this category

NB: we clearly also need permission as well as the sound recordings

Any contributions gratefully received!!

Ray for YG

Other good Yorkshire songs are also needed!!

Many thanks and have a good Christmas/New Year


15 Dec 08 - 11:30 AM (#2515852)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Leadfingers

You could start with 'Fourpence a Day' - Yorkshire Lead Mining ! Its in the D T - FOUR PENCE A DAY


15 Dec 08 - 12:11 PM (#2515907)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Ian Hendrie

I have a recording somewhere of Ewan MacColl recounting how he was seeking out the words to 'Fourpence a Day' and had not had much success. While waiting for a bus in, I think it might have been Richmond, Yorkshire, he decided to pop his head round the door of an Old Folks Home (is that still politically correct?) and ask did anyone know it. Someone fortunately did and that's apparently how we have the song today.


15 Dec 08 - 12:12 PM (#2515908)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Indeed it is! Would you like to sing it?

Ray


15 Dec 08 - 12:16 PM (#2515916)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Folkiedave

Aged Person's Home if you please.


15 Dec 08 - 01:41 PM (#2516017)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Musket

I always thought fourpence a day was more Durham than Yorkshire if I were to be pedantic. (There were lead mines in Swaledale, but most were slightly further North.) Similarly, Ewan McColl's songs were mainly from the BBC radio Ballad "The Big Hewer" which was about mining in the North East. He wrote some wonderful songs for that.

I was a Yorkshire miner, so didn't sing many songs about it. (A bit hard spending Sunday night at The Boundary singing about how hard it was and Monday morning laid on the transformer like a good pit electrician...)

I did write a few songs years ago about the loss of community after the strike, and if I can find them, will record them and send on. Can't promise mind.. A long time since they saw light of day. Memories are about a different me from a different time, and I try to think I have moved on, so buried my songs. Don't perform them now, and not too sure where I put them?

WIll have a look though.


15 Dec 08 - 04:47 PM (#2516190)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Tangledwood

COAL HOLE CAVALRY by Ted Edwards?


16 Dec 08 - 04:34 AM (#2516592)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Ted is/was from Lancashire, this is a cracking song and Gary and Vera among others sang this I believe

Ian just the time period we are looking for 1984/5 Miners Pit strike are there any songs and poems from this period which survive?

Ray


16 Dec 08 - 07:00 AM (#2516665)
Subject: Lyr Add: TIME TO MOVE ON (I Mather)
From: Musket

Ok Ray.

I dug this out. It is a bit of a personal song as it is about me in every sense of the word.

I think I sang it to the tune that Christie Moore sings Little Musgrave.

Time to move on

As I walked down to the club, to have a pint and cheer,
Live Aid now was saving the world, it was music to my ear.
But I looked round and others looked away, a bad taste in my beer,
They couldn't remember if I worked, if was there or here.

The world is changing once again, we must now move on,
Traditions and skills of the working man, vanishing one by one.

I started working down the pit, an apprentice at the mine,
It was the summer of '79, I felt I was doing fine.
My mum I knew she wasn't happy, towing the community line,
No lad of hers before had gone, she felt I was doing time.

The world is changing once again, we must now move on,
Traditions and skills of the working man, vanishing one by one.

But I was happy, I had money, skills and loads of mates,
A pint in the club but just have one, when I was working lates.
A job, security and a pension come to he that waits,
Bide your time, do your job, turn up at the colliery gates.

The world is changing once again, we must now move on,
Traditions and skills of the working man, vanishing one by one.

I married young because I could, the future was my own,
Earning the money to buy a house, no need for a further loan.
A baby bouncing on my knee, whatever could go wrong?
Scargill said out brothers out, this strike will be hard and long.

The world is changing once again, we must now move on,
Traditions and skills of the working man, vanishing one by one.

A Yorkshire pit in Nottinghamshire, who didn't vote to strike,
The lads came down from Rotherham, to persuade us with all their might.
Stuck in the middle, what could I do? To keep my baby fed?
Time to move on, change my life, fed up of being red.

The world is changing once again, we must now move on,
Traditions and skills of the working man, vanishing one by one.

Do my mates remember me, laughing and singing a song?
Or do they think that I went back, for what they thought was wrong.
Easier still to shut me out, as if I didn't exist,
But all I know as I moved on, my first life will be missed.

The world is changing once again, we must now move on,
Traditions and skills of the working man, vanishing one by one.

 I Mather 1985


16 Dec 08 - 07:44 AM (#2516699)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,HughM

I remember hearing a song about a disaster at the Lofthouse colliery near Wakefield. If I remember rightly the colliers accidentally broke through into some old flooded workings and were overwhelmed by the sudden rush of water. The song was sung by a chap with a beard who used to wear a T-shirt with the words "beer garden gnome" on the front. I think he wrote the song. Does anyone remember him?


16 Dec 08 - 08:32 AM (#2516737)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Dave Hanson

It was Middleton in Teesdale where Ewan collected ' Fourpence A Day. '

Still in Yorkshire THEN.

eric


16 Dec 08 - 10:26 AM (#2516816)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Musket

It was Middleton in Teesdale where Ewan collected ' Fourpence A Day. '

Still in Yorkshire THEN.

eric

If it helps, when Mike Harding wrote that wonderful photo book, Walking The Dales, he reproduced the lyrics, as a Yorkshire song. (Swaledale.)

I have heard people sing verses that McColl never claimed, so like many traditional songs, it's Dad had a bike.


16 Dec 08 - 12:20 PM (#2516940)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: ced2

Ar ata Ray? I thowt that I'd teld thee o' tale o' 4d a day abaht 3 year sin. Int "Shuttle & Cage" published bi WMA, McColl sez he gettn' it from t' sin'in' of John Gowland a "retired lead miner fra Middleton in Teesdale". Shuttle & Cage nah long aht o' print were published int mid 50s and at that time half o' Middleton were in God's Own County and tother bit were in sum forin place full of offcumdens. Then Ted Heath and his 1970s Local Governent Act piched that bit of Teedsale as were in Yorkshire (along wi Middlesbro') to form the much despised Cleveland. (More bits were also nicked to form Lanceshire after Manchester and Liverpool went their own way.) Tha must ave 'eard me sin'in it Hilary used to do a nice bit of whistle playin to go wi it. Sithee Ced


16 Dec 08 - 12:36 PM (#2516952)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Steve Gardham

Ray,
I've got all the mining song books including the American ones, Shuttle & Cage, Come all ye bold Miners(both editions). Main problems are sources are scarce and the old problem with anything touched by MacColl and Lloyd.
Anyway if you think a song is worth including let me know which it is and I'll check the books and let you have copies of the songs.


16 Dec 08 - 03:13 PM (#2517091)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: henryclem

I've got a couple of songs - "Orgreave" is on my Myspace -
http://myspace.com/henryclements
and also "Pitworld" which I'd be happy to put on there if you want to have a listen.

As long as the blue clicky works ...

Henry


16 Dec 08 - 03:31 PM (#2517115)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,Ian Ferguson Guest

Ray somewhere amongst all my clutter I have a book of mining songs produced as a fund raising effort during the strike. If you have any use for these I will look it out.


16 Dec 08 - 03:46 PM (#2517130)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Geoff the Duck

As for lead mines. There are plenty of disused ex lead mines in Upper Wharfedale. Bradford University was analysing the remains of pollutants from them when I worked there about twelve years back. I was doing some of the analysis.
Bob Peggs's "Leaving the Dales" recorded by his band Mr. Fox (The complete Mr.Fox - Transatlantic Records - two LPs re-released as one package in 1975) mentions lead mines.
Quack!
Geoff the Duck.


17 Dec 08 - 07:25 AM (#2517651)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Hoblander

Ray what about the ironstone mining songs, and all the other industrial songs written by Graeme Miles , do they count? Most of the ironstone mines where in East Cleveland, in the North Riding of Yorkshire, as it were when I was a lad. Don't forget the songs of Ron Angel, Vin Garbutt, Bob Fortune, and many others from south of the Tees.
Kevin


17 Dec 08 - 07:55 AM (#2517684)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,HughM

If you can get hold of Mike Donald's albums "Songs of the Broad Acres" and "North by North-East" there is a song which refers to lead mining in Arkengarthdale. Unfortunately I can't remember which album it's on.


17 Dec 08 - 08:10 AM (#2517702)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Bob the Postman

Ginger Goodwin was a coal miner from Treeton in the West Riding who came out to Canada and worked in pits in Cape Breton, the Crow's Nest Pass, and the Comox Valley. He was murdered by police because of his work as a union organiser and is revered in Canada as a labour and pacifist hero. There are several songs about Ginger, including this one on Mark Gregory's site unionsong.com, written by Richard von Fuchs.

My favourite Ginger song is this one by Gordon Carter, descendant of Comox Valley miners: The Day They Shot Ginger Down. "Do we hold a grudge? You bet!"

Gordon Carter's recently released second CD "Diary Of A Coal Town" has a song called "Yorkshire Boy", which I believe is based on his own family's story:

We came here from Yorkshire
I was just a child
We got here in April
This town was running wild


17 Dec 08 - 08:23 AM (#2517715)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,Raggytash

Raymondo

Peter Bond wrote a cracking song about the mining disaster at Silkstone when 17 (?) children were drowned, the mine owners were absolved of all blame as it was "an Act of God" which is the title of the song. Some of the the children were as young as 7 and there is still a momument to them (raised by public subscription) to them in the graveyard in Silkstone. I'll let you have the worms over New Year and try to contact Peter for whatever permissions you may require

Cheers

Nick


17 Dec 08 - 08:48 AM (#2517737)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Bob the Postman

They say a teaspoonful of Copenhagen Snuff washed down with a glass of water will get rid of worms.


17 Dec 08 - 12:35 PM (#2517969)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Hello Ced nice to hear from you and info re 4pence a day, cheers

Peter Bond writing about the Huskar Pit disaster of 1838, good good hope lets us have permission to use this song ~ thanks Nick

And Steve yes any from Shuttle and Cage and Come all ye Bold Miners that are linked/came for Yorkshire if we have the words if not the music

Ian Mather has let me have his 1984/5 song

Tony Morris has let me have his Trappy Lad CD of ironstone mining and he is a YG volunteer (not sure what or how many we have permission for!!)

Some sad times Bob the postman, money breeds greed!

Who is Gordon Carter? should we know him??

Onwards and upwards

Ray


17 Dec 08 - 02:20 PM (#2518115)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Steve Gardham

Gret stuff.
Keep 'em coming. I like the sound of the Canadian stuff but permissions and copyrights are always a headache particularly from such a distance. Perhaps we need a volunteer in Canada! Bri and Maggie Roberts and family, Paul Ritzema?????


17 Dec 08 - 05:56 PM (#2518344)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie

Hi Ray,
I could send you the words AND a recording I did of a song by Terry Armytage called 'The Apprentice Diallers song'. It's about an apprentice mining surveyor back in the 50's-60's which is what Terry used to do, email me if you're interested.


17 Dec 08 - 08:44 PM (#2518490)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Bob the Postman

Re Gordon Carter, to find out if you should know him, hear the sound clips at the site linked to. But anyone interested in Yorkshire colliery radicalism should know about Ginger Goodwin.


18 Dec 08 - 03:29 AM (#2518627)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Les in Chorlton

Is Yorkshire a bit short on songs when compared with Durham and Tyneside then?

L in C


18 Dec 08 - 12:50 PM (#2519029)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Les to be honest we appear to be a bit short (like me), but also we appear to have some songs which haven't yet entered the "tradtion" and done the rounds for one reason or another and that is what YG are about popularising!!

Bruce yes please interested in all such songs that are available

BTW which of your email addresses I have got is the right one!!

Ray


18 Dec 08 - 06:31 PM (#2519332)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Geoff the Duck

Ray - what is the agenda for this thread? Are you wanting to unearth traditional material or songs written more recently?
The reason I ask is that this weekend I we will be out carol singing with people who may have info on songs and also writers of songs who may give you permission to use their songs.
Quack!
Geoff.


21 Dec 08 - 03:48 AM (#2521156)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Geoff answer is really both! all; help welcome

We are looking for good relevant song content, as poems if no music!

Henry Clements I really like your Orgreave song can you let me have the words and permission?

Ian Ferguson ~ yes love to have a look at your book

Must be some 1984/5 mining strike songs somwhere too!

Anyone got the Bob Pegg songs/LP?

Ray


22 Dec 08 - 04:42 AM (#2522013)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: henryclem

Ray - I've pm'd you re words & permission; also am putting Pitworld up on Myspace for you to have a listen.

Henry


23 Dec 08 - 11:16 AM (#2523000)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Many thanks Henry

Also interested in whether "Coal not Dole" should be included and "Miner's Life"

on the basis that Yorkshire was most certainly "in the thick of the strike" and emotions ran high to say the least

I seem to recall a song "Maggie's Pit ponies" by I think Nancy Nicholson

Clearly I need to limit to Yorkshire songs and Yorkshire content (before I get into trouble)

Ray


06 Jan 09 - 01:02 PM (#2533072)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Anyone singing the Sheffield steel songs, Sheffield Grinders and similar songs please?

Who is/was Bob Fortune?

Any poems from the 1984/5 Miners' strike

What about navvies and those working on reservoirs in and around Derwent village as well as on the canals

Ray


06 Jan 09 - 02:50 PM (#2533227)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,G PICKLES

In answer to Mhugh's query the Lofthouse Mining Disaster, the guy that you saw singing it was, I'm sure the late Peter Thorpe, not sure whether he wrote it.

Also a mining disaster song from Keith Marsden called Morley Main. Don't forget that Ray.


06 Jan 09 - 03:15 PM (#2533291)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Big Al Whittle

A bit obvious, but how about The Daleman's Litany.

And does the fishing industry count as industrial?


06 Jan 09 - 03:20 PM (#2533300)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Big Al Whittle

what about the Doffin Mistress - perhaps that could be yorkshire - there were plenty of textile mills of the sort in the song in Yorkshire?


06 Jan 09 - 03:41 PM (#2533323)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Malcolm Douglas

True; but that song belongs to Ulster, not Yorkshire. 'Dalesman's Litany' is one of the non-traditional songs already at the Garland website; sung by Ray as it happens.


06 Jan 09 - 04:20 PM (#2533368)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST

Five o'clock and all is well, miners are on their way to hell. Cross the bridge oer the line, half past five they're in on time. Into the mine a change of clothes, caplamp cage and down she goes. "Chorus" And into hell they go that day, to sweat and toil and earn their pay. To dream about a brighter day. When death wont be the price they pay. There are a few more verses to this Ray I wrote this a few years ago, about Hatfield Main and the bridge over the railway lines, between Dunscroft and Stainforth.I spent my early days in a house under the bridge on Southend and went to sleep with the sound engines shunting in the yard behind the houses, and woke with the hooters calling the men into work. In the summer the men would cross the bridge chatting and whistling. And in the winter you would just hear the sound of their feat crunching on the ice or snow. Thoughts of long ago I know, but you can have it if it's any good to you. Cheers Oombanjo. Oh, I did my training at Bentley and served my time at Hatfield Main.


06 Jan 09 - 08:24 PM (#2533624)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: Steve Gardham

Cheers, Oombanjo
This would link up nicely with the songs about the Tom Puddings coming down with the coal from Hatfield to Goole. I think we've just acquired the Tug 'Hatfield' to add to our fleet at the Waterways Museum. Goff Sherburn, Chris's dad, used to bring the coal down from Hatfield but he was skipper of 'Kellingley' tug. We all work on 'Wheldale', a sister tug now.


07 Jan 09 - 06:10 AM (#2533856)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Good to here from you Malcolm Douglas and hope that you are getting "back on your feet"

The Doffin Mistress I have a recording by Bertha Brown (of Tom and Bertha) which is clearly from Ulster ~ alluded to by June Tabor on a tv folk programme!

I have just dug out a book of poems given to me by Ivy May of the Ecclesfield poet Jimmy Roebuck (1978) with some mining and file, rasp cutting and gimlet and fork making content!

Ray


07 Jan 09 - 07:20 AM (#2533903)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,Musket

Yeah, the Doffin Mistress was most likely an Ulster sing, as Bertha, bless her, came from those parts and was a doffin mistress herself before meeting Tom.

Seeing their names on a thread does bring back a few memories. Every song was learned by Tom at his mother's knee. Never did find out if he had her knees pickled...

Twenty years ago later this year since Tom Brown joined a different choir, by the way. Time flies.


08 Jan 09 - 07:58 AM (#2534978)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Yes I have good memories of Tom and Bertha (Bertha I believe still in Worksop)

he was a good friend of John "Mitch" Mitchell who turnd up at Wakefield sing last Sunday afternoon, by the way

Ray


08 Jan 09 - 08:33 AM (#2535005)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,Black Hawk on works PC

Who is/was Bob Fortune?

Singer/songwriter from Redcar who writes mainly about Redcar & life there as it was when he was young. (age @ 60 now).
Frequent attender at the Cutty Wren Folk Club held in Skelton.
Marie Little recently taken up one of his songs concerning Blakey Rigg & Vin Garbutt has recorded at least one of his offerings.


08 Jan 09 - 08:48 AM (#2535019)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Right!

How to contact and see what he has that fits!!

Ray


08 Jan 09 - 10:47 AM (#2535123)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,Black Hawk on works PC

Ray,

I haven't got my copy with me but I am sure he is mentioned in the 'Folk Roundabout'.
I will check his address when I get home & pm you!


09 Jan 09 - 09:56 AM (#2535992)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GUEST,Black Hawk Unlogged

Hi Ray - PM sent
(2nd attempt at posting this ??)


10 Jan 09 - 04:30 AM (#2536873)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

Yea got this Black Hawk

Geoff [Mr Pickles]

Yea I remember Pete Thorpe and his Lofthouse colliery disaster song anybody know where his son Stephen is currently?

Morley Main disaster ~ when I first heard this I had to go out of the room

My dad was a miner and I also had the fears associated with the dangerous occupation of mining and the washing on the line in the back yard brings back memories too

I do hope that Cockersdale are happy for us to use some of Keith's songs, sometime

Ray


24 Sep 24 - 07:25 PM (#4208803)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: MoorleyMan

Does anyone have the lyrics to Pete Thorpe's Lofthouse Mine Disaster song, and is there a recording anywhere?


28 Sep 24 - 02:43 AM (#4208957)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

I found a song named as above, but not by Pete Thorpe in The English folk singer (Sam Richards attribution)

I recollect that Pete had written a song as named ~also he had been recorded singing by Leeds University (I believe)

Ray

March winds blow in the early morning ~ first line


03 Oct 24 - 08:29 AM (#4209237)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GeoffLawes

Here are two songs from YouTube about the Lofthouse Colliery Disaster
LOFTHOUSE MINERS DISASTER SONG  - The Shufflers of Filey       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXVVvA57H94

LOFTHOUSE COLLIERY DISASTER   - Three Sheets T' Wind       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0vtNa06Zlo Lofthouse Colliery Disaster (Working Man) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GixYtj3a


03 Oct 24 - 08:10 PM (#4209257)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: MoorleyMan

The first one is Working Man (Rita MacNeil), nowt to do with Lofthouse.
The second seems to be an original composition by a group member.
So I'll keep looking!


06 Oct 24 - 05:35 AM (#4209325)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

I suspect old Tykes' News diary may have the song ~ and I am aware of it's existence (the song)

Ray


07 Oct 24 - 11:43 AM (#4209381)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: cujimmy

Interstingly to note Ray, David etc on this day 07 October 1872 34 Men and boys were lost at the Morely Main colliery disaster in West Yorkshire. There is a poem called In His Hand by Stuart Bailey which I will try to add here

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=8848879625156783&set=p.8848879625156783&type=3&locale=en_GB

Hope this works. Its a very good poem and well worth adding to the Yorkshire Garland collection I would say - best regardss - Jimmy


07 Oct 24 - 12:05 PM (#4209383)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GeoffLawes

Here is a link to Keith Marsden’s song MORLEY MAIN in the Mudcat Thread any October Songs    /mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=170379&messages=229#morelymain:~:text=MORLEY%20MAIN%0Aby%20Keith%20Marsden


13 Oct 24 - 06:46 PM (#4209764)
Subject: ADD: Lofthouse Mine Disaster (Peter Thorpe)
From: MoorleyMan

At last, I found the words to the Peter Thorpe song referred to in the OPs above, courtesy of the estimable Doug Olsen, who learned the song from the author himself in 1979.
Doug recorded the song on his 2006 CD of poems, songs and readings "A Single Voice" (Tosspot Records TD147).

THE LOFTHOUSE MINE DISASTER
(by Peter Thorpe, Yorkshire)

Come ye people, come and listen
Of a story to relate
It’s a tale of pit disaster
When seven miners met their fate
Underground boys, underground boys
Seven miners met their fate.

It was in the village of Lofthouse
In the year of seventy-three
Seven miners worked through the night shift
Not knowing daylight no more they’d see
No more they’d see, boys   (etc)

Then suddenly without warning,
The face it did burst out
And a rushing wall of water
Put every man on that face to rout
That wall of water etc

The word has spread across the country
Seven miners trapped have been
Rescue teams with their equipment
Were quickly rushed to the scene
With all speed boys,   etc

For five long days they battled on
For to reach a pocket of air
When they reached it, it was empty
Which throwed them in deep despair
All their hopes, boys, all their hopes, boys
Was shot up then and there.

Charlie Korton’s body
Was the only one they found
The rest were then sealed in
That their final resting ground
Now a monument on the hillside
In memorial is found

When you’re sitting by your fire
In the comfort of your home
Remember these poor miners
How they died in that dreadful tomb
Underground boys, underground boys
They died in that dreadful tomb.


14 Oct 24 - 06:37 AM (#4209784)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: GeoffLawes

This may interest you Rayhttps://media.efdss.org/resourcebank/docs/RB317ShotsFired-BryonyGriffith.pdf


27 Sep 25 - 04:34 AM (#4229286)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Yorkshire Mining and Industrial songs
From: r.padgett

The Yorkshire Garland has been idle for near 20 years ~ now rekindled ~ and renewed interest ~ both SG and me still involved with an interest on more recent stuff

Will enlighten shortly

Ray

I remember Peter Thorpe and is son I think from Leeds and he recorded for Leeds University I believe any CDs or cassettes?