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BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK

04 Feb 09 - 06:15 PM (#2557398)
Subject: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John on the Sunset Coast

Question, do those triple Ks come with a white sheet and coned hood?

I guess this woman doesn't believe in s sharing. She's large enough for about 25 normally endowed women.

She's single-handedly kept Dow solvent. (I think there's a pun in there somewhere).

/www.nbcnewyork.com/around_town/the_scene/Breast-Implants-Set-World-Record-.html


04 Feb 09 - 06:42 PM (#2557420)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: frogprince

Is this the same one that was discussed around here a little while ago? (I suspect it is). Mental illness manifests itself in many diverse ways. No wonder her former boyfriend ran for his life.


04 Feb 09 - 06:47 PM (#2557424)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Barry Finn

Is a thread like this needed or appropriate? NO!

John why not discuss how big of a dick you got or are?

Barry


04 Feb 09 - 06:47 PM (#2557425)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Barry Finn

Let this thread drop off the bottom!

Barry


04 Feb 09 - 07:03 PM (#2557431)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John on the Sunset Coast

Gee, Barry, no sense of fun? Get turned down last night?
Are you needed or wanted? Let's drop you off...anywhere.
Wheeeew
Now that that's out of our systems, Barry, let's be friends.


04 Feb 09 - 08:10 PM (#2557492)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: kendall

I never bother with such things if there is no blue clicky


04 Feb 09 - 08:43 PM (#2557523)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Little Hawk

I tried the address. It wouldn't open. Let's look for the world's longest wiener dog instead.


04 Feb 09 - 08:52 PM (#2557532)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John on the Sunset Coast

Hawk, I just copy/pasted it into the Firefox address bar and it worked fine. If the picture was in 3-D, I'd have been blinded.


04 Feb 09 - 08:56 PM (#2557536)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Little Hawk

Or your monitor might have been busted. Or both.


04 Feb 09 - 10:06 PM (#2557575)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Bee-dubya-ell

Looks like they grafted someone's ass onto her chest.


04 Feb 09 - 10:14 PM (#2557578)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Don Firth

Grotesque! Why!??

Bill:   Have you heard about the exotic dancer with the 57 inch bustline?
Fred:   57 inch bustline!?? And an exotic dancer, you say? What kind of a dance does she do?
Bill:   Well, she doesn't actually dance. She just crawls out on stage and tries to stand up.

Don Firth


04 Feb 09 - 10:26 PM (#2557586)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Ebbie

Good lord- she's toting bigger than a 1-ton prize-winning hog.

I confess I didn't even know there was such a designation as F in breast size, never mind K.


04 Feb 09 - 10:40 PM (#2557597)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Skivee

Foe me this kind of thing has ever been a button. What mental state/twisted world view could draw that woman to distort herself in this way? And what thinking man would be so breast obscessed as to find this attractive; a woman who turns herself into a cartoon? And what person who is called a doctor could perform this surgury? What ethical hospital would provide staff and facilities for this mutilation?
This is just fundamentally messed up.

On the other hand, I smiled at Don's joke.


04 Feb 09 - 10:45 PM (#2557600)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: katlaughing

Skivee, I agree. How in the world could she find that attractive? As frogprince said, mental illness, etc.

And, John, why not have a thread measuring fellahs' dicks? It'd beat this one for gutter level.


04 Feb 09 - 11:14 PM (#2557619)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Don Firth

< rant on >

When I was working in the production illustration department at Boeing years ago, there was a young woman who came through the department a couple of times a week carrying drawings to the blueprint machine to have them blueprinted. She was about five feet six or seven and generally well-proportion—except that she had a bustline that looked like she was smuggling (I'm not kidding!) a pair of basketballs. There were a few guys in the department who were juvenile enough to gawk and giggle and nudge each other and make comments. I'm sure she was aware of this, and she always looked to me as if she were in a perpetual state of embarrassment.

I—and a few other guys, and women, too—felt embarrassed for her because with that kind of "endowment," she couldn't go anywhere without running into the same kind of stares and snickers. She was definitely a candidate for breast-reduction surgery, but this is hardly something that a guy can walk up to a woman and suggest. . . .

Why someone would deliberately do something like that to herself and consider it attractive (attractive to what kind of man!?), I will never understand.

< /rant off >

Don Firth


04 Feb 09 - 11:17 PM (#2557621)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: olddude

Well I am sure she is mentally ill or just looking to make a buck from her 15 minutes of fame.

My biggest question is, what doctor would do that. I mean most take that "do no harm" clause in the oath pretty seriously. I think the doctor is the one who is irresponsible


04 Feb 09 - 11:30 PM (#2557635)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: GUEST,hg or haggard or whatever!

John, this is a sexist thread from a sexist guy. No thanks, pal.


05 Feb 09 - 01:22 AM (#2557679)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John on the Sunset Coast

Kat, I'll let you put up the thread about the 'male member', although I confess I sometimes try to sneak a peak over the urinal divider...just to check out the competition once in awhile. ;)

The reason I put up the article is that I found it bizarre that a woman would put herself out there like that (so to speak). If you read the article, you know that she had to go out of the country to have this record setting surgery. And she is obviously very proud of how she looks.

Had this woman just been naturally larger than the average woman, I would not have commented on it, anymore than I would comment on any other physical attribute or deformity.

If I ever come across a story of a man who is trying to set the record for the worlds largest penis, I'll PM you about it. That's a
solemn promise.

Oh, if I've offended anybody here by posting this story, and commenting on it










GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LROL


05 Feb 09 - 02:44 AM (#2557699)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: TRUBRIT

This is almost as bad as the octuplets......


05 Feb 09 - 04:06 AM (#2557728)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Richard Bridge

I think the usual "standard recordholder" on dick size was "Big John" Holmes, a very well known pornstar, who died of aids some years back, but there was a TV programme here in the UK about a chap who was supposed to be the biggest in the UK and it wasn't (I am told, I didn't actually watch it) so much the length, but the width - if I remember aright, 6 inches across (not round, across).


05 Feb 09 - 04:09 AM (#2557729)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Richard Bridge

Memory played tricks. He was in New York.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/This-Man-Has-the-Largest-Penis-in-the-World-13-5-in-34-29-cm-erect-76722.shtml


05 Feb 09 - 04:59 AM (#2557749)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: JohnInKansas

The link in the first post has an extraneous "/" at the beginning that confuses IE. Omitting it, the link works when pasted in IE.

But here's the link clickified just for (I never bother with such things if there is no blue clicky) kendall.

The picture is pretty tame, and in fact is not any great competition for a number of rather grotesque samples to be found with Google image search by those who have incredibly good anti-malware defenses and are careful about where they go to look.

(Of course I know that only because samples occasionally come up in the results when I'm looking for serious clinical subjects for wholesome and respectable purposes - and I've only looked at the thumbnails in the search results. I guess I'm well past the age to be much excited - or impressed - by such stuff, or even to remember a time when I might have been. I'm much more impressed by a pretty smile.)

John


05 Feb 09 - 05:15 AM (#2557761)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: VirginiaTam

hmmmm!

My cousin and her 2 daughters were cursed(?) with unnaturally large breasts. My cuz would not undergo reduction surgery even though she had constant neck, shoulder and back ache. She was afraid that she would put herself under the knife for no reason and her breasts would increase in size again.

Until one icy evening after work, she slipped and the weight of her breasts pulled her forward. She could not right herself and she broke both wrists in that fall. As soon as the casts came off her arms, she and one (maybe both) of her daughters arranged to have breast reduction surgery.


05 Feb 09 - 05:35 AM (#2557770)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: wyrdolafr

There was a programme on television last night in the 'The World's Most... ...and Me' series last night about the world's most enhanced breasts and featured a woman called 'Minka', who whilst not the biggest per se was pretty 'over the top'.

I caught about 10 minutes after the Terry Pratchett Alzheimer's documentary. I couldn't watch any more as I wanted to reach into the screen and punch her 'manager' and 'co-star' who seemed keen to exploit her until she was 70 years old.

She seemed obviously unhappy with her situation - particularly as she was a promising tennis player when she was younger and seemed to regret not pursuing it - but also seemed almost as enamoured with money as her manager.

He really did seem to be an odious little shit.


05 Feb 09 - 05:47 AM (#2557776)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Will Fly

Remember "Lolo Ferrari" (Eve Valois) and her appearances on Eurotrash? Exploited as you might expect, deeply unhappy and dead at 37.


05 Feb 09 - 06:12 AM (#2557794)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: wyrdolafr

Will Fly wrote: Remember "Lolo Ferrari" (Eve Valois) and her appearances on Eurotrash? Exploited as you might expect, deeply unhappy and dead at 37

Yes, I remember Lolo Ferrari and the person behind a lot of her career too. Someone else I've felt like punching when I've seen them on television. If I remember correctly, wasn't he strange-looking due to cosmetic surgery too? No giant lips and tits, but just odd?


05 Feb 09 - 06:57 AM (#2557819)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Will Fly

He was indeed the man you describe.


05 Feb 09 - 09:34 AM (#2557940)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Richard Bridge

I can't say that giant tits have ever been a huge attraction for me.


05 Feb 09 - 09:44 AM (#2557947)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: gnu

I thought it said "Beasts".

gnu, aka, Wildebeeste


05 Feb 09 - 11:52 AM (#2558054)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: kendall

...so be easy and free, when you're drinking with me,
I'm a man you don't meet every day...


05 Feb 09 - 12:00 PM (#2558066)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: katlaughing

John on the Sunset etc., it's not worth the trouble. Starting this thread is right up there in poor taste as the people who will exploit this woman for money. So, get over that.


05 Feb 09 - 12:16 PM (#2558090)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John on the Sunset Coast

Actually, I think this woman is exploiting herself. I'm only helping her attain her 15 minutes of fame. And you're abetting that also.

BTW, a local morning radio show teased this story, "Coming up after the break, a woman whose breasts give new meaning to the term 'KKK'."


05 Feb 09 - 12:24 PM (#2558095)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Sleepy Rosie

Lolo seemed to be quite a sad person. Yet another damaged girl chewed up and spat out by leeches who proliferate in the porn industry. Huge self-esteem problems apparantly caused by a mother who actually admitted to wanting her daughter to hate her own body. The husband seemed like another one of those loathsome little pimp types, he even sold photos of her dead in her coffin... I would've posted a link to the piece I read online, but it has a few pics of tits and fanny so thought the mods might not appreciate.

Having said that, I don't think you need to be mentally ill, depressed or insecure to use your looks and your breasts (however large they may be) as a pragmatic investment. Lot's of girls in the glamour business are pretty savvy, and in no way 'vulnerable'. IF the woman above is making a sound living out of having the biggest breasts in the world, I guess that's literaly her business. Can't say I think it's a very useful thing for young girls to see all this stuff though. It is so distorting, and must inevitably (along with all the other Barbie bullshit saturating our tabloids and telly's) lead to various types and degrees of dismorphia in many young women.


05 Feb 09 - 12:28 PM (#2558099)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Richard Bridge

Kat, since she commissioned the surgery, it seems to me that she is exploiting the suckers who get a hard on over several pounds of moulded silicone, thinking it is part of a woman. I don't see her as victim.

What does worry me is that we have reached the state where the target in terms of sexual attraction can only be reached by surgery. That cannot be good for evolution and the survival of the species.

Curiously the cult of mammary enhancement elevates sexual maturity as attractive in a woman, whereas Brazilians and armpit shaving elevate sexual immaturity, demonstrating a cultural paedophilia that we deny by opressing those who suffer from actual personal paedophilia.

It's all going very Pete Tong.


05 Feb 09 - 12:34 PM (#2558107)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John MacKenzie

Don't forget, we live in a blame culture. If a woman is stupid/sick enough to do that to herself, it's not her fault. It's the fault of men who want to see women with hideous large breasts [sic]
I don't know who these 'men' are, I'm certainly not one of them.
So I wonder just who it is, who lumping a load of people with disparate tastes, under the one label here?


05 Feb 09 - 12:56 PM (#2558126)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: katlaughing

You can damn well bet there is some man, maybe more than one, who has encouraged this woman, maybe even coerced AND, in the matter of the surgeons, actually proceeded with the deformation of her body. Yes, she apparently wanted to do this, but why? If you think it was on her own with no input from others, particularly a man, maybe you should read Happy Hooker and see just how influential men can be. Women can be, also, but with something like this, there is almost always men involved.

As for her fifteen minutes of fame...is a woman's worth to be measured by the money she makes exploiting her body? Do you want to contribute to that?

Richard, this made absolutely no sense at all: Curiously the cult of mammary enhancement elevates sexual maturity as attractive in a woman, whereas Brazilians and armpit shaving elevate sexual immaturity, demonstrating a cultural paedophilia that we deny by opressing those who suffer from actual personal paedophilia.

It's all going very Pete Tong.


As far as I am concerned, as a woman, this thread should be deleted and I do not suggest such lightly.


05 Feb 09 - 01:08 PM (#2558134)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Bill D

KKK is large? What about a T-cup? Or a Z-bra?


Seriously, it is sad that there is a market for such things, and that anyone would intentionally undergo surgery to achieve such size. She will regret it, I will wager.

And whatever she measures, it is no record....there's always someone larger. Perhaps she is only the largest one seeking publicity currently (and who is otherwise youngish & pretty enough to make her an object of ...ummmm...'desire', rather than of ridicule.)


05 Feb 09 - 02:23 PM (#2558199)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Jack Blandiver

KKK? In the words of Krust the Clown - that's not good...


05 Feb 09 - 02:24 PM (#2558201)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Jack Blandiver

Make that Krusty


05 Feb 09 - 02:44 PM (#2558218)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Richard Bridge

Doubtless there are men involved. That will probaby be because in general, mostly it is men who find women sexually attractive.

Why such men find women with exaggeratedly large breasts attractive is to me more puzzling, but since breasts are a secondary sexual characteristic it is not surprising that they are focussed upon. I find the focus on depilation more surprising.

However, it is not only men, but also women, who measure the "worth" of a woman by her sexual attractiveness to men and it seems that women compete on that ground.

I am not aware of the gender of the surgical team who performed the operation.

So, no, I am still not convinced that "men are to blame".


05 Feb 09 - 02:48 PM (#2558222)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: katlaughing

Don't misquote me, Richard. Here is what I said about blame:

Yes, she apparently wanted to do this, but why? If you think it was on her own with no input from others, particularly a man, maybe you should read Happy Hooker and see just how influential men can be. Women can be, also, but with something like this, there is are almost always men involved.


05 Feb 09 - 03:29 PM (#2558268)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John MacKenzie

Well kat, you would appear to have a very low opinion of your own sex, if you think that they all do things like that just to please men.
Sadly there are plenty women silly enough to mutilate themselves like that, of their own free will.


05 Feb 09 - 03:38 PM (#2558272)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: GUEST,harpgirl

Delete this thread, Joe.


05 Feb 09 - 04:03 PM (#2558300)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: katlaughing

Well kat, you would appear to have a very low opinion of your own sex, if you think that they all do things like that just to please men.

You know that is not what I mean, John. I have a low opinion of the way our society is still *telling women, through advertising, Barbie dolls, etc. they must be a certain way to please men and a lot of women, esp. young women, believe it unless there is someone in their lives who has taught them otherwise.

Agree with harpgirl, Joe. Please close this thread.


05 Feb 09 - 04:07 PM (#2558308)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John on the Sunset Coast

I find it very interesting that we can have some of the most contentious arguments about politics, international relations, religion, race, economics and myriad other topics, and nobody calls for shutting down the threads in the BS section. But sex so taboo to a couple of people who find the topic repugnant that they want to close this thread down.

So we'll start by eliminating this thread. Then maybe Azizi's topics on race relations. Then we can eliminate discussion of Israel and Palestine. Moving right along we can drop discussions of President Obama's tax cheaters. Or Bush or Democrats or Republicans.

And finally we can simply eliminate BS altogether as anybody rails against a topic that offends them personally.

I am really disappointed in Harpgirl, and especially Katlaughing since I most always enjoy her posts, agree or disagree. It is their right to disagree with the comments posted, and to criticize the thread, and even me. But it is altogether wrong of them to call for shutting it down.


05 Feb 09 - 04:09 PM (#2558310)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: wyrdolafr

Katlaughing wrote: "You can damn well bet there is some man, maybe more than one, who has encouraged this woman, maybe even coerced AND, in the matter of the surgeons, actually proceeded with the deformation of her body. Yes, she apparently wanted to do this, but why? If you think it was on her own with no input from others, particularly a man, maybe you should read Happy Hooker and see just how influential men can be. Women can be, also, but with something like this, there is almost always men involved".

I'm on record already in this thread as saying I've wanting to punch two men guilty of exploiting these women. I'm not keen on people exploiting others generally, even more so if women are coerced in some way to go to extremes of plastic surgery.

However, I'm not sure what you're saying is quite as true as it once was and whilst Happy Hooker probably reflected much of the reality of the porn industry the best part of 40 years ago, I think over the last 10 years or so, the nature of pornography has changed. Yes, the same kind of things are still being sold and in a lot of cases people are genuinely being exploited - often, but not always, by men but I honestly don't believe it's as cut and dried any more.

Whilst it's widely accepted that pornography has shaped the internet (it's been massively influential in driving a lot of technological advances) I think often it's missed that the internet and related technology has also shaped porn. A technological platform that's allowed and encouraged all manner of self-publishing has also allowed 'skin self-publishing' where people are now producing pornography that can cut out the traditionally exploiting middle-man, in much the same way that many musicians &c. utilise the platform.

Also, the WWW part of the internet exploded after various cultural trends broke in many parts of the world. The UK saw 'Ladettes' and 'Girl Power' for example. Britain now has a culture where glamour models are something to aspire to and have celebrity status. Now it could be argued as to whether any of this was as empowering as some of the women involved actually thought it to be, but the fact remains, many women are now getting naked not because some man is telling them to, but because 'they want to' and 'it's their body' and so on.

The last ten years or so has seen things like 'cam whores' appearing where women either strip or perform - of their own volition, with no exploiting middle-man - for things like items off 'wish lists' on commercial sites like Amazon or for payments directly into a paypal account &c. In these kinds of scenarios, it's hard to see who exactly is being exploited here, if anyone.

You've also seen trends in pornography that buck particular stereotypes as to what women and women in pornography should look like. Whilst there are still a lot of women that feel pressured to look certain ways in order to sell 'product' - and often get plastic surgery in order to do so - the truth is the market for pornography is so diverse now that a woman with any kind of look, fashion or bodyshape could find a market to suit: it's not just women with freakishly big plastic tits or women who look like Barbie dolls.

I'll admit that a lot of what I've mentioned here I really don't understand in that I'm not wholly comfortable with or don't actually agree with. For example, whilst if a woman wanted to become a glamour model, I've never looked down on it I struggle with the idea that society has allowed it to become a good thing in that it's something to aspire to rather than, say, a doctor/nurse/teacher &c. I'm not comfortable with young girls and teenagers having appropriated iconography like the Playboy logo, for example which I've seen on the clothing of pre-teen kids before now.

However, as much as I don't like these things, perhaps I've got to admit that, in 2009, I'm one of those out of step now. I don't know!


05 Feb 09 - 04:23 PM (#2558318)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Sleepy Rosie

Mmm, I do see Katlaughings point. And I understand why she would want what she perceives to be a thread demeaning to women to be closed.

Yet I see it as a pertinent thread for this day. Not only for the reasons it was initiated, but for the responses it has already gleaned, and for the highly immediate issues it is already in its short life, initiating debate about.

Yes, the thread was initiated not in a "let's discuss this sensibly" in a grownup fashion, but in a "Let's all joke about this circus freak" style fashion.

But, irrespective of that - or indeed maybe because of that - it has already evolved into a worthwhile discussion of contemporary values around the uses, abuses and misuses of contemporary Western defined images of the "idealised" female body.

I say let it stand. And I will contribute to it as it will no doubt rage on, in the best and most thoughtful ways that I am able.


05 Feb 09 - 04:26 PM (#2558322)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Joe Offer

I had a few requests that this thread be closed. I agree that there are some stunning examples of extremely bad taste in some of the posts, but I can't really see a precedented reason for closing it.

I hope the thread dies a quick and painful death. If you who dislike it could refrain from posting, the others will get bored and go away.

In other words,

If you don't like it, boycott it!!



-Joe Offer-


05 Feb 09 - 04:33 PM (#2558328)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Bert

Silicone Cindy


05 Feb 09 - 04:34 PM (#2558330)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Lizzie Cornish 1

This thread is important, kat.

Women are degrading themselves. They are doing this by their own volition.

Why?

Because we have two generations who have been 'groomed'

I just wrote War & Peace about it all, then went to post it, and found the thread had been closed, so I deleted it...Darn it.


05 Feb 09 - 04:37 PM (#2558333)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Big Mick

This thread will not be closed. There is nothing in it that constitutes a personal attack, nor does it violate any rules. It is a legitimate discussion, even though some folks are clearly cretinous in their responses.

I am with my partner, Mr. Offer, on this one.


05 Feb 09 - 04:37 PM (#2558334)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Little Hawk

Kat, commercial advertisors and sales people work on this basis and this alone: if it sells, do it!

That's why they keep employing advertising that exploits various parts of the female body. It sells their product! There are still plenty of idiots out there who that advertising works great on, and there always will be, and as long as there are then further things will be done along that line.

If you don't like it, then you don't buy their product, right? That would be you and me, for instance. We wouldn't buy their product. If everyone was like you and me then their stuff wouldn't sell and they'd give it up and do something else.

But everyone isn't like you and me. And part of life is coming to terms with the fact that everyone isn't the way we would like them to be...

Part of life on this forum is coming to terms with the fact that everyone else's comments may not be to your liking, their sense of humour may not be the same as yours, and a given thread may not be to your liking either. In which case....as Joe says.....boycott it!


05 Feb 09 - 04:41 PM (#2558338)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Big Mick

Now to my comments on the subject at hand.

I think men that find this type of thing attractive, or a turn on, need to seek counseling.

I think men that cannot see how our society objectifies women, and encourages mental weaklings to pander to this lowest common denominator are mental midgets.

Anyone who cannot see that this woman is just an opportunist taking advantage of the proclivities of dimwits is in denial, or wants an issue so bad that they are using her as much as the men are.

If I wanted to play with tits like this, I would have stayed on the farm with Bossie, the stump trained cow.

Mick


05 Feb 09 - 04:49 PM (#2558346)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: GUEST,harpgirl

Here's my personal attack: Big Mick and Joe Offer are assholes!

    I love you too, Harpy! But no, I don't like the thread, either. I just can't find justification for closing it.
    -Joe-


05 Feb 09 - 04:55 PM (#2558357)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: GUEST,harpgirl

The message I am getting from the men in this thread is "Too bad if you women find this offensive. We don't care! We are men and we can do what we like. Screw the lot of you...This is a major problem on this forum and has been for the life of it. But what can one expect from Catholic men, afterall?


05 Feb 09 - 04:55 PM (#2558358)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Sleepy Rosie

In response to Wrydolafr.
I think that you are not out of step in 2009, I think that your concerns are intrinsic to a whole new evolving contemporary male female sexual dynamic. And it's one in which I genuinely see the difficulties for the modern man, trying to adapt his way through a plethora of contemporary cultural complexities and bullshit inherited - from a heap of blanket incurrances from, and then unintegrated anti-thetical reactions against - Christian dogma against sex, instinct and in particular the tempting female body.

I personally have no problem recognising that young attractive women would wish to use their physical attributes for financial gain, any more than their intellectual or artistic ones. I also have no problem with men - or women - wanting to look at explicit imagery in order to gain some pleasure and excitement from them. Men and women want to fuck and to look at other people fucking. I do however think that the porn and glamour industry might think a little more often about what interests women sometimes. Then perhaps we might not feel so excluded or objectified in the whole business.

I'd personally prefer to see the glamour and porn industry guided by the hands of older experienced women in the feild than men... Possibly because I prefer the idea of brothels run by older ex-pro 'madams' more than male pimps who only see the money and benefit, and never the immediate personal pain or cost of their industy.


05 Feb 09 - 05:00 PM (#2558368)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John MacKenzie

You cannot legislate for the sort of people, of either sex, who consider what's between their legs is more important than what's between their ears.
You cannot uninvent Barbie dolls either, but you could stop buying them!
I wonder just what the relative figures are, regarding the sex of the parent who buys a Barbie doll for their offspring?
According to some of the views already expressed on this thread, one would think it would be predominently fathers who buy them for their daughters. However I would be very surprised if that proved to be the case.


05 Feb 09 - 05:12 PM (#2558377)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Little Hawk

Don't the kids usually ask for the Barbies themselves? Then what? Do you give your little girl a lecture about how demeaning those dolls are to females? If so, what will your little girl think? Will she think you're being a real tightass about it? Probably. Or should she even have to be confronted with those kind of burning political issues at that age?

This is one of the reasons I'm sort of glad I didn't attempt to raise any children in this life. It's not an easy job, specially in a society full of televised advertising.


05 Feb 09 - 05:32 PM (#2558392)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: wyrdolafr

That message to Harpgirl was from me, logged-out. Sorry.

SleepyRosie, I'm conscious of the 'dynamic' as you put it. How, for good or bad, things are changing in what it means to be a man or a woman in these times. I think that dynamic is pretty much created by a reappraisal or assessment of 'women' and that 'man' is pretty much shaped by trying to adapt or fit in around it. A lot of flux I think and a lot of uncertainty.

Regarding the porn thing generally; no pun intended, but it's a hard issue. I think it's generally accepted that men and women often rely and respond to - for whatever reason - different forms of stimulus. I think that's why porn for women (in the way that porn is understood as a primarily visual medium), will always be a smaller niche market.

As for women in porn, again a hard and mixed topic. If women want to appear in porn then, ultimately it's up to them - and I think that for the vast majority of them now, it is their choice, it's not like Linda Lovelace-style exploitation or something*. I'd rather they became doctors or scientists or artists or something, but again, this perhaps falls into the idea of telling women what they should or shouldn't be.


*Prostitution's another matter though. I think forced recruitment is probably on the rise now that the EU has opened-up.


05 Feb 09 - 07:49 PM (#2558513)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Charley Noble

Really dumb!

Thanks, John, for correcting the link.

Charley Noble


05 Feb 09 - 09:02 PM (#2558569)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Bert

LH says

...commercial advertisors and sales people work on this basis and this alone: if it sells, do it!..

This is exactly why many lotions marketed for women are packaged in tall cylinrical bottles that squirt out a white viscous liquid.

So us guys are not the only ones falling for it.


05 Feb 09 - 09:04 PM (#2558570)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: John on the Sunset Coast

"But sex so taboo to a couple of people who find the topic repugnant that they want to close this thread down."

I was notified that that sentence may make one think I am saying that some people don't like sex. That was not my intention. It is a poorly written statement which I wish to clarify:

But the topic of women's anatomy is taboo to some
who think it so demeans women that they want to
close this thread down.

I think the the lady in question is both tragic and comic. But it was the headline which included the "KKK' that hit my funnybone. Apparently it also hit the funnybone of the Los Angeles radio host as I noted above.


05 Feb 09 - 09:38 PM (#2558585)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Richard Bridge

Interestingly, Bert, in the cosmetics industry, such bottles are called "phallics". I was quite taken aback when I first found out.

I am of the view that the general thrust of this thread is that the body dysmorphia of the young woman featured is to most people not in fact erotic. I do not see why that message is insulting to women.


05 Feb 09 - 11:17 PM (#2558628)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Big Mick

Actually, harpy, there are many things I find offensive, like your attitude whenever someone doesn't agree with you. I find that most offensive.

As to the subject at hand, perhaps you could define for me what constitutes offense? The mere discussion of a woman who is all over the news, exactly by her design I might add, who has altered her body in a grotesque way? Is it because men are discussing it? Are they making gratuitous comments that are offensive? Have they compared her breasts to yours? Or mine? What is offensive?

I find discussions that defend the actions of the British government in the North of Ireland offensive. I find threads attacking the hispanic population because they are trying to get to this country to do better for their families offensive. But that doesn't constitute a reason for closing the thread.

That is why your nasty comments are ignored. Your reaction is typical of you and it has happened any number of times over the years when someone disagrees with you.

Love,

Mick


06 Feb 09 - 01:17 AM (#2558676)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Little Hawk

Geez, Bert! I had never thought about those lotion bottles you mention in that respect....but, yeah. One more example of the endless barrage of both obvious and subliminal sexual messages in advertising.

And then there are the popular women's magazines that one sees at the grocery store checkout. They invariably have headlines on the cover for at least one, often more than one article about sex:

"New moves in bed that will have your man in ecstasy!"

"Is your orgasm as good as it could be?"

"What does he really want you to do for him?"

"Twelve new positions you will LOVE!"

"Who is he imagining in his head when he makes love to you?"

Etc...

It's incredible. Just go to your grocery store right now, go to the checkout and take a look at what the women's magazines have to say. Not as gross as the men's magazines, for sure, but equally obsessed with the same basic subject.

Now, open your Yahoo webpage. Have a look at the "News" headlines. I bet you 9 to 1 odds that one of them has to do with sex. That's "news"? Well, whoever is in charge appears to think so...or is it just that they know darned well which bait keeps the fish biting? And how to keep us all distracted, doped, and compliant?


06 Feb 09 - 01:21 AM (#2558677)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Little Hawk

Say, I just went to my Yahoo homepage to find today's sex headline in what passes for "the news". I was not disappointed. Here it is:

TEENS CHARGED WITH SELF-PORN

Teens distributing racy photos of themselves charged with porn.


Perfect. I can only wonder what tomorrow's sex headline will be. If there isn't one, it'll be a miracle.


06 Feb 09 - 06:55 AM (#2558815)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: VirginiaTam

silly side on>

Like J in Sunset... I found the KKK funny in that it is such a racially charged term why on earth apply to a bra size. When he mentioned cones I got visions of hooded madonnaesque voguers wriggling around in my head. Yeah I know! Surreal! Pain and lots of mixable pain killers does that to my brain.

Maybe the thread should not be shut down due to potentially uncoplimentary objectification of women, but because of the racial implications of the term KKK.

If someone mentions BNP and BBC and Excrement and a certain descendant of infamous tory altogether in the same post, that should do the trick.

silly side off>

mod elf - please amend or delete my comment as you see fit.

going to find other thread bombs to try and defuse now

Drugs! I want more drugs.


06 Feb 09 - 09:00 PM (#2559653)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: robomatic

I'm only providing this because Sabrina was a constant 'inspiration' to the Goons


06 Feb 09 - 09:01 PM (#2559654)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: robomatic

Or this


06 Feb 09 - 09:42 PM (#2559677)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Little Hawk

Ummm...gahh! That is just horrifying! I guess my taste doesn't run the same way as the cast of the Goon Show. However, it sounds like she was a resourceful, intelligent, and capable woman.


06 Feb 09 - 09:45 PM (#2559681)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Don Firth

Good grief!!

Some years back, a young woman of my acquaintance and I were browsing a magazine stand. I was checking out the latest issue of "Scientific American" and she zeroed in on a copy of "Penthouse."

"My Gawd!" she whispered, her eyes growing wide. My friend, who convexed the front of a blouse or sweater in a pleasantly decorative but not extreme manner, showed my the centerfold and indicated the D-cup udders of the model. "Don't those things get in her way!??"

Good question. But not in the way of her modeling career, obviously. As long as she holds up well. . . .

Don Firth


06 Feb 09 - 09:54 PM (#2559690)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Donuel

Roman bath house portals and unearthed wealthy palace walls at Vesuvius, reveal mosaics featuring men with 35 inch long penis'.

These depictions were a running joke through out Rome. His name may have been Bigus Dickus but were nearly as common as our Dogs playing poker pictures or black velvet Elvis paintings.


06 Feb 09 - 09:56 PM (#2559692)
Subject: RE: BS: Record-Breaking Breasts 38KKK
From: Melissa

Skin is stretchy and resilient..but surely there are limits to what it can stand.
It's kind of a gruesome thing to wonder, but what keeps the skin from splitting?
    Well, now that the thread has been inactive for a few days, I think it's time to close it, so some dork can't bring it back up to the top.
    -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-