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06 Mar 09 - 11:59 AM (#2582660) Subject: DADGAD Day From: Phil Williams I'm thinking of hosting a DADGAD day followed by a concert here at 'Cornwall Harp Centre' later on this year - possibly Sept 12th. We are on the Devon/Cornwall Border between Bude & Launceston - Very near to 'Hawker' (Hi Lucy!) Guest tutor will be Sarah McQuaid and it will be a Days tuition with lunch, then pasties before evening concert with Sarah McQuaid and Sarah Deere-Jones (Harp) & Phil Williams (Gazuki & pipes) The tuition will be in DADGAD and all related topics. I'm just guaging the interest at the moment, cost will be approx £20 plus a little extra for the meals. I'd be particularly interested in anyone who'd like to come, as will have to keep it to 20 max, or would welcome thoughts on whether or not its a good idea! email phil - at - trehawsa.com camping on site if required. Thanks for reading Phil Williams |
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06 Mar 09 - 02:26 PM (#2582782) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Richard Bridge It's too far for me to come but do you know any string manufacturer apart from Newtone who will do DADGAD string sets? Gordon Newton's strings are well thought of but he wants me to buy a minimum of 6 sets and if it turns out I don't like them that would be silly... |
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06 Mar 09 - 06:06 PM (#2582897) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Phil Williams No, I buy individual strings from Strings-Direct myself, I only dabble in DADGAD (easier to type than say) so re-tuning is the order of the day. Interesting to find out whether Sarah McQuaid or the likes of Tony McManus use different guage Strings for DADGAD compared to conventional tuning. They might for recordings I suppose. |
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06 Mar 09 - 06:10 PM (#2582899) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Richard Bridge I am a limited player, so I rely on the guitar sounding good on its own to cover my playing! |
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06 Mar 09 - 08:25 PM (#2582978) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: catspaw49 Are you looking for asuplier for the special glasses? Spaw |
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06 Mar 09 - 08:37 PM (#2582985) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Richard Bridge ??? |
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07 Mar 09 - 12:20 AM (#2583067) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: GUEST,DonMeixner Are special gauges a requirement for DADGAD to play and sound good? Or is it more a matter of matching the strings to the player and the instrument? Don |
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07 Mar 09 - 01:22 AM (#2583083) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Richard Bridge Well, yes, the bottom and top Ds and teh top A are both tuned down a tone from the pitch in standard tuning, so are slacker and floppier, with all that that implies including for ability to excite the top of the guitar. On the guitar I usually use for DADGAD, since it has a slightly short scale length, I'd play 13/56s or even a 13/58 bluegrass set, in standard, so I'd expect to want 14/18/26/36/46/58 for DADGAD and so far my choice seems to be either to buy strings as singles or to get 6 sets as a minimum order from Gordon Newton. |
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07 Mar 09 - 02:21 AM (#2583096) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: andyroberts There are so many light guage sets of strings for sale these days it's probably normal to use a set of medium guage for tuning to DADGAD. |
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07 Mar 09 - 04:55 AM (#2583141) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: GUEST,Richard Bridge awaiting students! Yes, but if you use 13/17/26/36/46/56 then the 13, 17, and 56 will be floppy when in DADGAD, have that sort of bouzouki-ish sound of a thin slack string, will pull out of tune easily when fretting, will not excite the top and will not sound even with the 26/36/46. |
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07 Mar 09 - 07:53 AM (#2583207) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: van lingle What a 3D convention? :>) 25 1/2" scale guitar with mediums and a 60 low string for DADGAD, drop D and open D setup with medium low action. That's how I do it. Tried DADGAD Newtones and found them a bit softer than John Pearse and D'Addario mediums and not much different tonally. Maybe they lacked some of the warmth of the other sets. My 2 cents. |
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07 Mar 09 - 12:42 PM (#2583340) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Richard Bridge 60? That's BIG! |
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07 Mar 09 - 03:13 PM (#2583413) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: van lingle But it doesn't rattle and I hit it pretty hard when backing tunes. |
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07 Mar 09 - 09:05 PM (#2583623) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: catspaw49 Still awaiting bid results on the glasses concession........... Spaw |
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08 Mar 09 - 12:26 PM (#2583909) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie DADGAD day? sounds like a bloody awful idea. How about a 'Learn a more original tuning' day... Nothing against DADGAD, sounds good when it's done well but too many people use it as a cover for boring amateur playing |
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08 Mar 09 - 09:02 PM (#2584251) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: van lingle Okay Spaw, you can have the glasses but I'm handling the Goobers, Raisinets and Milk Duds. |
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10 Mar 09 - 07:02 AM (#2585433) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Phil Williams I'm trying to get people who presently play in good old EADGBE to get their feet wet. What they do thereafter...... Looks like 12th September 2009 here on Devon/Cornwall Border 8m Between Launceston & Bude. |
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10 Mar 09 - 07:09 AM (#2585437) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: matt milton I have a self-imposed and fairly arbitrary rule never to retune more than one string at a time. I find it hard enough to keep my guitar in tune over the course of a gig anyway. So I never venture further than drop Ds, or A strings detuned to Gs (or G sharps) |
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10 Mar 09 - 07:25 AM (#2585447) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: bubblyrat I now play in Double Dropped D all the time,and find that 13 / 57s are generally OK( Daddy Rio Phosphor Bronze usually).The idea of a 60 is interesting,although I don't have to play my Avalon "hard",as it's a very loud instrument anyway,especially with brass bridge -pins.Those things you're going to eat on the night,by the way,are called OGGIES----only Emmetts & Grockles call them "Pasties" !! |
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10 Mar 09 - 12:42 PM (#2585694) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: GUEST Apropos of other tunings: Does anyone have suggestion for string gauges for modal C (CGCGCD)? The bottom C is of course 2 tones down and tends to drift off sometimes when hit hard. Incidentally, Nic Jones used to drop down another semitone to B (i.e. in Canadee-i-o)! I recently had some tuning-drift problems with my 30-year old Fylde Goodfellow, took it to Hayward the Luthier in Winchester - he fixed 90% of the problem by refitting quality rosewood pegs. Best £25 I ever spent. Still hates the cold though ... AP PS Matt: I take 2 guitars to gigs, one in open tuning, and retune between sets. Works for me. Except when they go out of tune halfway through, but there's no helping that... PPS Bruce Michael Baillie: Thrashing out 3 chords sounds just as bad in any tuning. |
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10 Mar 09 - 12:44 PM (#2585695) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Phil Williams "Pastie, Pastie, Pastie, oi, oi, OI!" - yer right it doesn't scan. |
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10 Mar 09 - 12:55 PM (#2585709) Subject: RE: DADGAD Day From: Richard Bridge Cor, flipping Heck, CGCGCD (why not E on the top?) I'd probably suggest 60(or even more!), 48, 38, 25, 16, 14 - but look it up on one of the tension calcualtors. I know one player who does that tuning on standard 13/56s on his L'Arrivee. |