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BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)

17 Mar 09 - 11:03 AM (#2591026)
Subject: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

OK, the other hockey thread for the year got a bit full-- would someone kindly add links to old hockey threads-- so here's a fresh one for this year's Cup run.

My TEAM is the Pens but that ain't my PICK, if ya knowhaddeyemeen. (My PICK is our ECHL team to get into the second round of THEIR cup run!) :~)

You?

BTW I noted a new NHL.com feature this year-- I don't much like the "improved" site otherwise-- a playoffs-if-they-were today screen that shows all the matchups. I imagine it will morph to this year's playoff updates.

~Susan

18 Mar 09 - 08:47 AM (#2591684)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

I still don't know the Western Conference as well as the East-- what looks realistic, to Catters, about the West shake-outs to toward the Cup?

~S~

18 Mar 09 - 07:54 PM (#2592191)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: olddude

Sabres . I were my heart on my sleeve every year

18 Mar 09 - 07:58 PM (#2592194)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: olddude

can't type it is wear not were ... finger don't work anymore

but OH if it WERE only true

19 Mar 09 - 01:18 AM (#2592323)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Well, there are only two words to remember about the Western Conference - RED WINGS!

GO RED WINGS - KEEP THE CUP! Cheers,....mwh

19 Mar 09 - 06:40 PM (#2592932)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: GUEST,Justin

I pick the Wings, too. They've returned to last year's form. Osgood is posting better numbers. And now that Downey is back in the lineup to grind, the bigger teams aren't as much of a threat.

19 Mar 09 - 10:00 PM (#2593058)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

I'm hoping that their "down" times are over and were only a result of getting bored waiting for the second season to start. whatever - be sure to take your blood pressure medicine and hold on to your hats fans cause it'll be a great ride. GO RED WINGS! Cheers,...mwh

20 Mar 09 - 09:14 AM (#2593307)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Looking for teams to peak at the right time you can't discount the Canucks! 11 in a row at home and Luongo is playing great!

And when I come back to earth, it's a Boston-Detroit final!

Some day I'll get to say "GO LEAFS GO"!(then I'll have to add "Honky The Christmas Goose and "Clear the track, here comes Shack" to my i-pod!

05 Apr 09 - 08:35 AM (#2604994)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

So how is it looking now?

Here come the Penguins....

~Susan

05 Apr 09 - 08:59 AM (#2605000)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Yep, Penguins are doing well! I'm sticking with Boston out of the east! Detroit's goal tending has me glancing at other teams from the west. The only thing I can say for sure is; Those #@%$&@% Leafs will be golfing again this year come playoff time!

05 Apr 09 - 09:07 AM (#2605010)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Hopefully the Pens will not join them on the links too soon....

~S~

05 Apr 09 - 09:22 AM (#2605017)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Mooh

Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal.

Said another little prayer for the Leafs...alas.

Peace, Mooh.

05 Apr 09 - 09:35 AM (#2605021)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Did you say it before last night's game?

05 Apr 09 - 10:49 AM (#2605045)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Sandy Mc Lean

Well the Leafs are winning early draft picks! :-}

05 Apr 09 - 01:07 PM (#2605099)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

That's cruel... heheheeee...

06 Apr 09 - 08:59 AM (#2605568)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

I always enjoy the "Buy Penguins Tickets Now" ads that run during game the Pens are losing. Apparently they kick this strategy up a notch at the end of the season: Last night we watched a losing double-header. The ads featured playoff tix going on sale Tuesday.... fire sale? ;~)

~S~

07 Apr 09 - 11:25 PM (#2607067)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: GUEST,DannyC

Flyers are in with a chance!!

08 Apr 09 - 12:01 AM (#2607080)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Damn Pens squeaked in. I say, tough love!

~S~

08 Apr 09 - 08:52 AM (#2607260)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

My son and a friend of his(the kid I went and refereed with in Niagara Falls two weekends ago)travelled to Pittsburgh for a game just before his birthday in October(not a Leaf game). Got their first real taste of the sometimes not so subtle differences between American and Canadian hockey fans. I don't think I'll elaborate too much on their experiences. The exception I'll make is to say that they thought like in the movie "The Untouchables" when the Judge exchanged the jury in his court with the courtroom next door, the fans they were surrounded by had been exchanged for fans of ping pong. They figure they were amongst about 100 Japanese tourists. From the guy sitting behind them; "Why whistle?".....Offside! "What offside?"....Player crossed that blueline before the puck did! This went on for almost every whistle during the first period. During intermission, my son went and purchased a small, cartoon like, rule book for dummies type pamflet, from one of the souvenir stands. He got a pen and wrote a little blap in it. "From a Canadian Hockey Fan, Pittsburgh U.S.A. October 16/08". The guy said "Thank-You. We here on Tuesday, guy tell me to shut-up! This same thing...EH!".

11 Apr 09 - 11:32 AM (#2609215)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

So how do you think the matchups are shaping up?

~S~

11 Apr 09 - 11:36 AM (#2609218)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Oh and here's this year's page for the BRACKET WATCH. At least I assume it is-- up to now it's been titled "if the playoffs were held today," but I htink it will become the place where the results are listed as each series unfolds.

~S~

13 Apr 09 - 03:15 AM (#2610005)
Subject: BS: The ride to the Stanley Cup - who's on?
From: Michael Harrison

Well, we can't have a tussle for the Stanley Cup without a thread for our wonderful hockey catters so I will start it off simply by writing - GO RED WINGS! I'm on board with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Hossa, Franzen, Rafalski, Chelios, Lidstrom, Holmstrom and the rest of the gang wearing the winged-wheel of red and white. Let's go folks - off the bench and onto the ice - who ya' got, bring 'em on.
KEEP THE CUP IN HOCKEYTOWN - GO RED WINGS! Cheers,...........mwh

13 Apr 09 - 09:20 AM (#2610125)
Subject: RE: BS: The ride to the Stanley Cup - who's on?
From: wysiwyg

MWH, there already IS a thread running: http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=119467

Clones, please combine?

~S~

13 Apr 09 - 09:23 AM (#2610126)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

OK-- it's official-- the Pens start with one of the greatest old rivalries, against the Flyers. Here it comes!

Eric Godard, start doubling the steaks! :~)

~Susan

13 Apr 09 - 11:38 AM (#2610195)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

O.k., o.k., so I'm over here now and will let my thread die. I swear I looked for this thread but couldn't find it, so...

Well, in the first round my guys will be taking on the Blue Jackets; which leads me to ask a question: has anyone been getting emails pushing tickets from a team that they do not support? I have been getting them from the Blue Jackets and I LIVE IN TEXAS! I have never been to their website, nor have I contacted them for anything -
go figure. I just keep deleting the Blue Jackets stuff; which, by-the-way, is what the RED WINGS will be doing to them starting Thursday evening.

Let's have some fun and see where this year goes.
Cheers from Hockeytown South. GO RED WINGS!

13 Apr 09 - 11:40 AM (#2610197)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Go Wings! Till they get to US that is.

~S~

13 Apr 09 - 11:50 AM (#2610205)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

The SCHEDULE for the first round is up now. If it's like the regular season schedule page, it will soon contain links to highlight clips and (new this year) photo galleries.

~Susan

13 Apr 09 - 06:04 PM (#2610478)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

A couple of questions here about hockey on t.v. Are there any Catters who subscribe to the Hockey Channel, and if so, what are your thoughts on it pro and con; and, are there any Catters who get a cable or satellite service that feature stations like FSN Detroit, or FSN Southwest, etc. I am thinking of getting a service that offers FSN Detroit as one of it's channels but I'm told by a friend that I will not be able to get the Red Wings games, but only the pre-game and post-game shows, etc. Any knowledge about that anyone?
Thanks for any feedback.

13 Apr 09 - 06:21 PM (#2610490)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

GO HABS GO! GO HABS GO! G.... are the Habs in the playoffs?

13 Apr 09 - 11:32 PM (#2610680)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: GUEST,JTS

I like the Sharks for the West. They've had a strong team for a few years. They've been very good all this year. But of course the Wings will be strong.

I don't think the Bruins have the experience for a long run in the playoffs. The East really seems up for grabs. Of course I'll be cheering for the Carolina team. But I'll enjoy watching the young guns in Pittsburgh and Washington.

14 Apr 09 - 08:33 PM (#2611352)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Sometimes they forget to tell the kids that they're just kids and they don't have enough experience! Chicago also makes me look twice!

14 Apr 09 - 10:01 PM (#2611389)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

As you well know I am a Wing Fan. That is to those who have been following the hockey threads for a few years now know this. However if the Wings get clipped I'm backing the Hawks.
As well, I mentioned this a few years ago that for a sport that has lots of fighting, this is about the only thread since it's inception that no bickering has taken place. Respect is great.
Boston in 4 Gnu.
Adrien

15 Apr 09 - 03:00 AM (#2611470)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Peace

Boston in 4--would that be 2014, 2024 . . . .

15 Apr 09 - 10:55 AM (#2611700)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: bobad

hockey...ballet and murder
- Al Purdy

15 Apr 09 - 12:28 PM (#2611769)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Becca72

LOL Peace. How many times in recent years has Boston been SPANKED in the playoffs by Les Habs??
Of course, at heart I am a Caps fan. Always have been, always will be. So where the cup is concerned GO CAPS!!!!!

15 Apr 09 - 01:27 PM (#2611801)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

How true Becca. But this year I think Boston has had enough. Besides the Canadians are in to much disarray. They don't have the chemistry that they had going for them at last seasons end.
"G Wings Go"
Adrien

15 Apr 09 - 01:36 PM (#2611806)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Becca72

I hope you're wrong, Adrien but I had the same thought, actually. Growing up in northern New England I grew to hate the Bruins and love to see them humiliated

15 Apr 09 - 01:38 PM (#2611808)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Den

Come on Canucks! Its gotta happen at least once in a lifetime.

15 Apr 09 - 02:11 PM (#2611834)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Beer, thanks for the civility reminder I forgot to insert in the first post. I have found over the several years we've been doing thse here that informal, friendly PMs to people new to that dynamic have been received well and I hope those of y'all who have enjoyed that dynamic will feel free to sending them as well rather than getting drawn into any "serious" trash-talk.

My own model, here, is the civility that allows fans of opposing teams to enjoy a game along the glass, in person. You don't stop cheering your own team on, just because a seat-mate may be wearing the WORST team jersey in the WORLD, but you try not to spark an alcoholically-inspired "chat" with the security personnel! :~)


And I renew the invitation to Gather at our place at any point in the playoffs. Camping space, beer fridge, and pub dog available.

~Susan

16 Apr 09 - 12:20 PM (#2612493)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Refresh

16 Apr 09 - 01:15 PM (#2612533)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Pens off to a good start.

~S~

16 Apr 09 - 01:36 PM (#2612547)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

HERE is Fox's matchups-at-a-glance page (see the "Chase for the Cup" chart) where you can see scores for each series pile up. HERE is the Versus version.

THIS is some Hockey-101 stuff.

~S~

16 Apr 09 - 10:08 PM (#2612850)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

three to go for the Brunes and Red Wings.

16 Apr 09 - 10:32 PM (#2612860)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Brunes, you say? I'll be damned-- I always assumed it was pronounced "Broons."

~S~

16 Apr 09 - 10:47 PM (#2612864)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes! GO RED WINGS!
Y'all are loved in Texas. Hockeytown South says: KEEP THE CUP!

17 Apr 09 - 08:37 AM (#2613043)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Fun end to Hawks' game last night.

~S~

17 Apr 09 - 12:54 PM (#2613196)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

My first choice for the scoop.

17 Apr 09 - 02:04 PM (#2613261)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Yes, series by series they are well-organized. But if one wants to see ALL the series' status at a glance, ALL on one page-- one has to look elsewhere.

~Susan

18 Apr 09 - 02:22 AM (#2613653)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Well, my Wings were idle tonight, but it's Stanley Cup time and that means that ANY match-up that goes into the third period tied, or enters into overtime, is a MUST watch. The Pens and Flyers was great viewing tonight; and, though I'm not a Pens fan (sorry, Susan, but I've had Sydney Crosby up to my ears)I am a fan of the game and it was nice to see Bill Geurin have such a game - he's a good guy.
Till tomorrow night then - GO RED WINGS! Cheers,...........mwh

18 Apr 09 - 04:46 AM (#2613679)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Peace

Hope often beats out experience . . . .

18 Apr 09 - 11:14 PM (#2614196)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Hay Michael!, their my Wings to.
Two to go.
"Go Wings Go"

19 Apr 09 - 04:34 AM (#2614268)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Peace

As I said, hope often . . . .

Does anyone have a link to the standings right now? Truth is I'm just yankin' chains. I haven't been able to follow hockey this season--as in I saw one goal and that was that.

19 Apr 09 - 09:03 AM (#2614346)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Jeri

Sports Illustrated:
Standings.
Playoff schedule (Looks like the first two games didn't go so well for Montreal.)
There are also pictures of skinny (not all parts) women in small bathing suits there. I was pretty sure you wouldn't want to look at that sort of thing, though.

For the record, I haven't ever really recognized the existence of hockey until this thread. I think I might have issues stemming from trying to have some fun skating with friends while some numb-nuts guys (who we went there with) were whacking a puck around at the public rink, and I suspect they were aiming at us.

19 Apr 09 - 11:35 AM (#2614390)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Hey Beer - you're right, they are your Wings too, and we're happy about that. Hey, here's a "heads up" for all the Catters here.
I may be behind everyone in "tech knowledge," but I went ballistic yesterday when I saw that Versus was not televising game two of the
Wings/Blue Jackets series; I checked my entire cable line-up and found - NO RED WINGS. Out of frustration I called a Detroit radio station and was told where I could listen to the game on-line and then the guy told me that I could "watch" the game on-line as it was streamed in. Bingo - it worked. No, it's not like watching it on TV, but you get the audio broadcast clear as a bell with the streaming video, plus replays, interviews and post-game shows.

I'm not certain because I was only looking for the RED WINGS, but I would believe that every hockey game is available to be viewed. At any rate, the web-site is: justintv.com, and it's a God-send when the bozo's don't carry your team. How can you not show every game that the defending champions are playing? Sure, I'm biased, but
come on now. Try out the site and let us know what you think, and...GO RED WINGS - KEEP THE CUP!          mwh - Hockeytown South

19 Apr 09 - 11:51 AM (#2614399)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Thanks for the tip Michael, I will try and see if it works better than what I use from the Red Wing Home Page. Which is: TV: FS-D (HD), Radio: 97.1 FM
However, when I'm listening to the game I loose connection to often and have to start again. Pain in the butt. It is better than no wings though as I don't have all those sports stations that most sport fans have.
Adrien

19 Apr 09 - 09:36 PM (#2614730)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Beer - I have a cousin who lives down here and he gets "FSN Detroit"
as one of the channels on his "Direct TV," satellite package; but, he says that he gets everything but the games. I'm wondering if that is universal or what. Given that the strike of a few years ago drove away a lot of potential fans (as well as ESPN broadcasting) wouldn't you think that Bozo Bettman would be giving games away as opposed locking them up on the NFL network. Go figure.

Yes, I too listen on 97.1 when all else fails, but it tears me apart to know they're playing and I can neither see, nor hear the action.

GO WINGS - KEEP THE CUP!                Cheers,............mwh

19 Apr 09 - 09:54 PM (#2614733)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I may have mentioned this if a by gone post. When I was living in Nova Scotia I use to pick up WJR Detroit and listen to their games on a.m radio. About 10 years ago I was traveling in Newfoundland and was listening to a Detroit hockey game on WJR. Wish the hell they had of kept it going. The think about Hockey (maybe all sports)is that you can be doing other things while listening to and picturing in your mind the game.
Love it.
Adrien

20 Apr 09 - 08:15 PM (#2615249)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Miss our other Wing fan "Leftydee". Where are you buddy?
Adrien

20 Apr 09 - 10:10 PM (#2615311)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Anyhoo they "really" belong to Mick.

~S~

20 Apr 09 - 10:12 PM (#2615313)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

What belongs to Mick??

20 Apr 09 - 10:59 PM (#2615341)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Wings.

~S~

20 Apr 09 - 11:11 PM (#2615348)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: maire-aine

Another Wing fan here...

Maryanne

21 Apr 09 - 07:33 AM (#2615515)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Wrong Susan, wrong. If Mick is a Wing fan than great he can be added to the list of us die hards. Including Maryanne.
Beer

21 Apr 09 - 03:54 PM (#2615816)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Wings fans are EVERYWHERE; especially down here in Hockeytown South.
Come on down to a Stars game sometime when the RED WINGS are in town and check out the number of fans dressed in Wings garb or other red clothing. Game three of round one tonight in Ohio. GO RED WINGS!

21 Apr 09 - 09:42 PM (#2616063)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Yessss!!!

21 Apr 09 - 11:24 PM (#2616101)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

So how's your teams doin', folks?

Pens lead series 3-1 against Flyers.

~S~

22 Apr 09 - 10:06 PM (#2616696)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Habs are out (Boston continues)

Blues are out (Vancouver continues)

~S~

22 Apr 09 - 10:55 PM (#2616713)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Should I say I told you so. Guess I should have placed some bets. Boston in 4.
And Peace, that's not 2014, 2024 it's 2009.
Pens look great and Vancouver scares me. Chi. will take their series and Wash. will bow out. That is it for now.
Ad.

23 Apr 09 - 09:18 AM (#2616918)
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From: gnu

Guess I gotta go to reHab. Maybe I'll become a Wing Nut. >;-)

23 Apr 09 - 10:03 PM (#2617443)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Great line Gnu.
Now about tonight's game. We were Lucky but I'll take it. Rest a bit I guess. Must have a look see as to who the Wings will be up against.
Ad.

24 Apr 09 - 12:40 AM (#2617502)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Beer, I think you're right. I think the Wings came out tonight and there just wasn't any pressure on them, but they came through in the end. A fluke penalty? Maybe, but the Versus commentators all agreed that it had to be called. Besides, the Stanley Cup playoffs are often about fluke goals and other flukey stuff; in the end though, the guys still had to score the last goal - and they did.
Right now the Ducks are giving the Sharks hell. See you all in the second round - GO RED WINGS, KEEP THE CUP! Cheers,.........mwh

25 Apr 09 - 05:49 PM (#2618728)
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From: wysiwyg

Penguins advance!

~S~

26 Apr 09 - 08:51 AM (#2618949)
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From: 3refs

Van vs St L! I think was a no-brainer! Det vs Colum was too! As was Bos vs Mon! (No bleu and blanc, no bleu, blanc en rouge! Next year!)

Pitt, advanced as they should have. But been a Philly fan since 1973!

Cal vs Chi, "Don't make me angry! You won't like me when I'm angry!" Could be decider!

Wash vs NY, The Avery-Tortorella factor! If %$#&^%# Avery plays, they win!

NJ vs Car, he ain't heavy, he's my Brodeur!

SanJ vs Ana, scares me!

26 Apr 09 - 10:13 AM (#2618973)
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From: gnu

Sharks got teeth.

26 Apr 09 - 12:07 PM (#2619038)
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From: Art Thieme

chicago all the way!

some wishful thinking from art

28 Apr 09 - 07:38 AM (#2620355)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

The Flames have been extinguished!
The Sharks are now gumming it!

Now the only thing left for this round, is for Ovechkin to put together another highlight reel effort and someone to put Avery out of my misery!

28 Apr 09 - 07:46 AM (#2620358)
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From: Becca72

Game 7, baby! Let's Go Caps!!

28 Apr 09 - 02:22 PM (#2620612)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Ducks, Hawks advance. Ducks will play Wings, Hawks get Vancouver, I think.

East still all balled up.

~S~

28 Apr 09 - 10:10 PM (#2620900)
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From: wysiwyg

Caps advance. 'Canes advance.

~S~

28 Apr 09 - 10:12 PM (#2620903)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Capitals and Hurricanes win

As the top seed, Boston gets to face the lowest seed remaining--Carolina. That sets up a second-round showdown between Washington and Pittsburgh.

Matchups:
No. 1 Boston vs. No. 6 Carolina
No. 2 Washington vs. No. 4 Pittsburgh

~S~

28 Apr 09 - 10:25 PM (#2620909)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Great. The two teams that I was hoping would win did. Not that it really matters as I'm a Wing fan but my grand son is a Hurricane fan and i like Ove....kin.
Ad.

29 Apr 09 - 08:00 AM (#2621113)
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From: Becca72

Caps Advance (Snoopy dance)

01 May 09 - 07:44 AM (#2622500)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Vancouver vs Chicago is going to be a wild series. 7 games

Can't wait for Ovechkin to run over Malkin! 7 games

Boston in 5.

Detoit in..........6. I'd like to say 4, but the Ducks are playing well.

01 May 09 - 08:16 AM (#2622510)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Vancouver vs Chicago WAS wild, last night. Vancouver was running off with a shutout till the Hawks made a 2nd-intermission adjustment and roared back to a 3-3 tie. One little booboo though and Vancouver scored on them right at the end,m plus an empty-netter. Bet they'd been scared shitless by the near miss!

~Susan

01 May 09 - 09:39 AM (#2622562)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Watched the third period. Felt bad for the Hawks.
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01 May 09 - 02:03 PM (#2622747)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Of all the sweaters worn in the NHL, my fav is the Hawks. I'm guessing that Stan Makita had something to do with that! Just goes to show you, speak softly and carry a big stick! He went from 146 mins in penelties in one year to 12. Mr Bong to Lady Bing!

01 May 09 - 03:00 PM (#2622768)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Hardi and grew up as Hawks' fans. They'd be our #1 team if Pittsburgh hadn't come on our cable package the same year Sid showed up.

3refs, thanks for your lovely PM; Hardi and I'd love to see a game witcha.

~Susan

01 May 09 - 04:01 PM (#2622803)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I remember Stan standing up and egging the fans on after he had an altercation. I think it was the following year that he got the Lady Bing.
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01 May 09 - 04:38 PM (#2622827)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

If one was to look it up, you'd see that most of his minutes spent in the "sin bin" were for retaliatory type penalties. In his early years, he was no Jean Beliveau. Although, once he established what was acceptable to him, he quit carving you up! Remembering that acceptable to him was "Don't touch me, and I won't carve you up!"

01 May 09 - 04:49 PM (#2622829)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

A little off the origional posting, but it's still hockey related and about someone's favourite team! A nice little story about Stan!
http://www.1972summitseries.com/mikita.html

01 May 09 - 04:51 PM (#2622830)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

I should have said "about someone, from somebodies favourite team".

01 May 09 - 07:05 PM (#2622898)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Round Two series start tonight:

Go Wings! Go Canes!

~S~

01 May 09 - 09:45 PM (#2622948)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Great game. Going to get nasty I think.
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01 May 09 - 11:01 PM (#2622980)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

I didn't like it. Too choppy. But GO WINGS.

~S~

02 May 09 - 10:07 PM (#2623362)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: maple_leaf_boy

I missed this thread. I had the Bruins picked back around mid-November.
The Wings are an obvious choice for the final, and I'd rather they'd
win, but I think the Bruins might be drinking from Lord Stanley's Cup
this time. (I still get a little sour when I remember the last time
the Bruins played my Maple "Laughs". )

02 May 09 - 10:58 PM (#2623371)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Boo, Danguins!

Hawks, wow! GOGOGO!

~S~

03 May 09 - 02:08 AM (#2623399)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Well, the NHL is still a useless enforcer. No suspension for Brown?
Nonsense, simply nonsense. That was a cheap-shot, gutless hit he put on Hudler and the league needs to stop this shit from happening again and again,...and why in the hell is Bertuzzi still playing?
He should have been permanently suspended years ago.

Now I'm going to be a real ass____ and say that someone needs to deck Brown in tomorrows game. What the hell, if the league won't stop it then the players need to take it to the next level to where the suits cannot ignore it any longer. Of course, you could fire Bettman, too, and bring in a real hockey guy to run the league; maybe a guy with a name like Yzerman, or Gretzky, you know, someone who might have PLAYED the game!

I must stop my bitching about Crosby, Crosby, Crosby and Ovechkin.
It seems that the Versus folks ran a poll asking about the second round match-up that will be most appealing - Pens/Caps won out over the Wings/Ducks 41% to 27%, so give the people what they want and I'll find my guys on-line somewhere - or the radio.

The Wings have got their hands full with the Ducks and I don't much care for Rafalski being out - a major player for the Wings. Nick is picking up any slack that appears and continuing to prove his greatness time after time. God, I love this game, and the Red Wings.
GO RED WINGS - KEEP THE CUP - GO RED WINGS - SLAUGHTER THE DUCKS!

03 May 09 - 03:35 PM (#2623607)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

DUCK!

03 May 09 - 05:19 PM (#2623639)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

WING!

03 May 09 - 05:19 PM (#2623640)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

DUCKWING!

What a game!

03 May 09 - 05:21 PM (#2623642)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

A duck winged... big penalty...... I am biting my webs....

03 May 09 - 05:25 PM (#2623648)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

??? oops... what a kill.

03 May 09 - 05:29 PM (#2623652)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Wow! I swore I would not start watching until the finals, but this is amazing hockey!

03 May 09 - 05:36 PM (#2623654)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Great first overtime.
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03 May 09 - 05:37 PM (#2623656)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I can't believe you swore. No way.
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03 May 09 - 06:32 PM (#2623686)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

The skating, the puck control, the anticipation... gosh! And, Gadzooks! Where did this guy come from? Can he rag a man or what? He's like a shadow!

Yes, Beer... I swore... and I am gonna continue... damn... I am hooked! Gonna have to accept the fact that less work is gonna get done until the Cup. I just hope I can stay away from the other matchups for a while.

And, I see the Canucks are doing okay in the world's.

03 May 09 - 07:00 PM (#2623692)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

We will rise again.
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03 May 09 - 07:19 PM (#2623700)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Resurgo or not... that was an amazing game. Real hockey. Nearly no chippy. And, the penalties for chippy were minor and behind the play. Just good skating, hustle, strategy... um, has it been this good so far? I just happened to check it out.

03 May 09 - 10:35 PM (#2623738)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

The sun is not shining in Hockeytown South right now, but fortunately it will come up again tomorrow. OT losses on your home ice are hard to swallow, especially when the loss comes so deep in the overtime periods. Damn Ducks! GO RED WINGS - LET'S GET 'EM!

03 May 09 - 11:26 PM (#2623750)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Waaaah! All THREE games on the DVR we tried to see today, the recordings ended before the GAMES did!

~S~

04 May 09 - 06:36 AM (#2623822)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

You know Michael it was a a hard one to loose. They had real hot goal tending. The kid was great. But Osgood made me proud as well. He made some fantastic stops and the team as a whole can hold their heads up high. I also think that they have proved that they will not be pushed over. The Avalanche have a good team but we have a great one.
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04 May 09 - 09:42 PM (#2624321)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

What a finish and two Hat Tricks as well. Unreal.
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04 May 09 - 10:59 PM (#2624375)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

:~(

Great game though.

~S~

04 May 09 - 11:09 PM (#2624377)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Sure was.

05 May 09 - 12:04 AM (#2624401)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Yeah, Susan & Beer, that was as fine a game as it gets; but, I have to ask the question - are Crosby and Ovechkin the only scorers on those teams? Also, when in the third period it was tied at two apice, Ovechkin scored twice on two shots that Fleury had a clear sight line on; Kelly and I just sat there and looked at each other in disbelief. Are we on another planet? Shouldn't Fleury have had one or both of those?

Ovechkin is entertaining to watch as he often gets as excited as a child on Christmas morning. And Crosby, in that third period when he scored his hat-trick goal - his tenacity on that play where he whacked that puppy three, four or five times before it finally went in, was really on the money; great stuff.

Two questions about hat-tricks: is this the first game where two players have scored hat-tricks; and, if so, how common is it? And, I thought that hats were thrown regardless of who scored the trick, your player, or theirs; however, there was only one hat launched in honor of Crosby's third goal. You know, about the time I think that I know a little something about the game, I realize that I do know - a little,...and a little ain't much. Two more tomorrow. Cheers, and,...GO RED WINGS GO!..........................mwh

05 May 09 - 07:29 AM (#2624508)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Becca72

I am a happy happy camper this morning. Let's Go Caps!

Michael, I don't think there were any hats left within throwing distance after Ovi's hat trick...

05 May 09 - 07:41 AM (#2624510)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

You don't throw your hat for a "hat-trick" that the opposing team scores. Kind of like a homerun in baseball, if the enemy hits the 4 bagger, you throw the ball back on to the field!

05 May 09 - 08:04 AM (#2624522)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Well... great time to get hooked on hockey... Wings play at 11:30PM my time. >:-(

05 May 09 - 08:11 AM (#2624527)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Easy on the beer tonight if I want to see all of the Wings game.
You got it 3refs, I wouldn't throw my hat if an opposing player got 3 goals against my team.
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05 May 09 - 09:23 AM (#2624570)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

1. Away hat tricks are always less hatful, but the record book is the record book.

2. We talk in terms of shoe tricks at our ECHL games-- toss shoes if the trick is an opponent's.

3. The Crosby thing. I have a lot to say there. Work with me here--

What bothers me most about Sid-worship is that it leaves a young kid without proper coaching. You cannot mold what you worship.

Specifically, Sid and his linemates. The established pattern is that potential linemates do great the first week or two, with Sid. Then their scoring drops off sharply and a schneid develops. This morning, I think I know why and how.

When they first arrive they are inspired and Sid is hopeful. They elevate their game without quite knowing how. He simplifies his. They meet in the middle. Magic happens. The coach is thrilled.

Then Sid quite naturally gets itchy to have even more fun, more magic-- he's a kid! He starts to fancy up his game. He has the talent for it, and the youth. They don't. The scoring begins to drop off.

This freaks out everyone. They all TRY HARDER.

The downward spiral accelerates-- everyone tried harder and it works less and less, as confidence plummets. Eventually that affects Sid's playing as well, and his goals vanish, too.


During the whole thing you hear the exact same things from Sid. His comments, while appearing to be reasonable and mature, are less and less accurate and relevant as this spiral descends.


How can you have a kid as the Team Captain if he cannot fathom the world of the skilled journeyman, because he has never been one?

He would need to simplify his own game, and then raise his expectations of the linemates and stop making allowances for what he must logically know is a talent gap.

He needs to be able to assess what they might actually be able to do, and then expect one level above that.

~Susan

05 May 09 - 09:57 AM (#2624593)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I think your assessment is very good Susan. The one thing I cannot understand is why they made him Captain. I think if they had waited a few years first would have made a difference. As you say and others, he is still a kid. He also shows his emotions way to much. In a negative way. Not when he scores but when he is not playing or the team is not playing well. He was very obvious in last years match up with Detroit. If I was Washington I would go after the kid and get him really upset. I think that this would work in the Caps favor.IMHO.
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05 May 09 - 12:03 PM (#2624681)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Again, I want to emphasize-- I do not blame him for all this, but the coach, GM, and OWNER/landlord for sublimating their own hockey dreams into Sid-worship such that a really good kid is left to carry the weight he cannot, in fact, carry.

It's also not Sid who seeks the NHL-marketing spotlight, the Ovechkin rivalry, etc.

He's like a child movie star who will not quite see how this has hurt him until later.

~S~

05 May 09 - 03:22 PM (#2624831)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Susan - I think we are much closer to agreement about hockey than we are apart; and, I agree with Beer - Sid should not be the captain, it would've been better to have a solid veteran wear the "C" for several reasons that have been mentioned here.

I blame "hockey" for putting Sid where he is, and by that I mean mostly Bettman. I think he was looking for an NHL version of Kobe, but for me - I don't like it. There are too many excellent players in the NHL and fans, and potential fans, need to know that there are more than one or two teams to watch for excitement.

I'll miss a lot of players here but I'll start with my guys: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Hossa, Lidstrom; then Campbell and Taews; then Luongo; then Pronger, Getzlaf; then Thornton; then Iginla and CheeChoo, and on, and on, and on. Finally, IMHO, if the league were going to put it's success on the shoulders of one guy, I would rather see them do it with Ovechkin because he's already "out there," and personally, I think he can handle it - probably better than anyone else in the league; but again, the league should be giving away games on television and talking about how great the whole league is and not just one or two players.

Hey - time to get ready for tonight. GO RED WINGS - EAT DUCKS!
Cheers,...........................mwh

05 May 09 - 03:34 PM (#2624837)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Yes, yes.

Here is one aspect of how it is so DUMB: that Versus poll, where Crosby/Ovie was said to be the most-wanted matchup? So then they market that MORE, and so of course it polls higher and then they market it some more and then it polls higher-- gimme a break!

I mean, Little Hawk proved THAT strategy with his Shatner threads. Just the constant mention created an "icon" (LH's stated goal) out of someone we mostly don't even actually WATCH.....

So I say make Shatner the poster boy for hockey! :~) Or LH-- serve him right! :~)

~Susan

05 May 09 - 04:46 PM (#2624893)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Lets not discuss Shatner please. I think it is on of the most ...... oh forget it.

Back to hockey.
Great observation by both of you.
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06 May 09 - 07:36 AM (#2625330)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Guess I missed a good one. Well not so good that the Wings lost I guess.
I was disappointed in the Chi./Van. game. Not as good as the previous one.
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06 May 09 - 07:36 AM (#2625332)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

I'm not sure who might have and who might not have, but here's a cute commercial with Ovechkin and......well you'll get it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp1DMQ-x33k

06 May 09 - 07:45 AM (#2625335)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Becca72

LOL! That was great!

06 May 09 - 08:20 AM (#2625351)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

That was great. Thanks for the morning laugh.
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06 May 09 - 04:31 PM (#2625752)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Well folks, again, it shows how little I know of hockey rules; I mean, if the referee blows his whistle after the puck has already gone over the goal line - why is that not a goal? I don't get it? On the other hand, the Red Wings are not playing like,...well,...the Red Wings. I am, however, comforted by the notion that you cannot wing the cup every year; but then - why not? Cheers,..........mwh

06 May 09 - 04:44 PM (#2625761)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Haven't seen as yet the disputed goal. Don't know if I want to.
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07 May 09 - 12:01 AM (#2625995)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

:~)

~S~

07 May 09 - 08:00 AM (#2626155)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

"Well folks, again, it shows how little I know of hockey rules; I mean, if the referee blows his whistle after the puck has already gone over the goal line - why is that not a goal? I don't get it?"

As an on-ice-official, I can answer that question!

First of all, having to make a split-second decision in the fastest game on the planet, is not as easy as it sounds! We don't skate around with our whistles in our mouths(or anywhere else). On any given play, an official must determine whether or not the whistle should be blown. Then they have to put the whistle in their mouth without chipping a tooth(happened to me). Finally blowing the whistle and make the right signal(wave off frantically)!

In this case, the referee has lost sight of the puck and has made the decision to blow his whistle for that reason.

07 May 09 - 08:01 AM (#2626156)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

ps
Go Vancouver!

07 May 09 - 09:09 AM (#2626194)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Yer an ice official!?!?!?!?!? (What league?) Kewl! (No "you-suck-ref" talk HERE please folks.) Can we have a hockey-questions thread after it's all over for the season? if I collect Q's out of some of the older threads?

~S~

07 May 09 - 01:31 PM (#2626424)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

So... should I watch the Canucks Hawks tonight? Can't stay up to watch the Ducks Wings (11:30 start again).

So, what do you think the new team in Halifax should be called? I say The Halifax Privateers will be the name that wins, if they have a contest, if they get a team.

And, where will The Coyotes go (without The Great One)? Winnipeg, I should think. I heard rumour of London, but, three teams in SO?

There is talk about town that Moncton would be a great location for a CFL or NHL team, but I doubt it. Maybe a CFL team... maybe... nah. People yap it up because of the crowds we get for concerts like The Stones, ACDC, Bon Jovi, Elton John... But those are oneoffs. Not gonna draw a regular crowd big enough for the CFL or NHL.

08 May 09 - 06:17 AM (#2626957)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Oh!, that is nice to wake up to. A Red Wing win.
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08 May 09 - 09:14 AM (#2627035)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Yep, I's a referee! Senior On-Ice-Official with Hockey Canada! So are my two sons, with my oldest being a higher ranking official than his Dad!

08 May 09 - 10:28 AM (#2627051)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Good, SOMEbuddy gotta keep you guys honest!

~S~

08 May 09 - 11:33 AM (#2627096)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

threefer,

OK, here are a couple of older threads that focused specifically on questions. Can you take a look (and answer there not here) anything that warn't covered right?

BS: Hockey - Plus and Minus?

BS: NHL: help on hockey stick rules


There MIGHT have been some questions in other hockey threads, but we have been running one each year for the regular season (that gets really long), and then one for the playoffs. I don't have time today to go comb through the older ones and I would not dream of imposing on your time to ask you to do it and then, on top of that, answer them.

In general, I think it would be best to keep questions in other threads, and keep this one for Cup-talk.

Anyway-- only answer what you feel comfortable tackling. This should still be a place of recreation for you, and not a place to answer for every hockey policy people like to argue over.


Thanks! I think I can see now why you might have appreciated the reduction in trash talk-- I am sure I know what you more usually hear through the glass-- but gosh, doesn't that leave you with no place to express it yourself?!?!?! (PM trash anytime, any team, mine several included.)

~Susan

08 May 09 - 12:34 PM (#2627149)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Da rules are da rules. What kind of rules? Dey are rules. A rule is a rule, and when you have a good rule, it's because it's a rule.

With apologies to Jean Chretien... kinda eh?

08 May 09 - 01:22 PM (#2627186)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Yabbut we have had a number of Q's from peeps who did not wade thru the long and hard-to-find NHL RuleBook. Also whatcha see on ice don;t allus match up with da woids.

And, lotta new hockey folx these days, Crosby hype, eh?

~S~

08 May 09 - 02:35 PM (#2627244)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Cool. I guess I just grew up with it so I know the rules. Of course, this is playoff time, so the rules can actually ebb and flow a bit. Up to the Refs. And, DEFINITELY not an easy job to "feel" the situation... let em play or call everything? Tough stuff.

08 May 09 - 04:00 PM (#2627285)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Now... THERE is a question for the man!

Do you Cherry and "let them play"? Do you Bing and call everything? Do you... what do you do?

09 May 09 - 01:16 AM (#2627526)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

I think it would be GREAT to have a permanent hockey "question and answer, discussion" thread that would be separate from the "regular season" and "cup" threads. Having said that, I just don't have time for it now because the Red Wings won last nite in fine fashion; and, since they (NBC nor Versus) are not to be televising Game 5 of the Red Wings game on Sunday (well, not down in Hockeytown South, anyway)
I've got to spend all my time finding a satellite bar that will be showing the game; or, just going nuts until Sunday when I can go on line and scramble to find a streaming video broadcast or a radio station that is carrying the game. Life is tough for hockey fans.
GO RED WINGS.........GO RED WINGS.........GO RED WINGS,.......mwh

09 May 09 - 06:58 AM (#2627622)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

I gotta stop going to nhl.com early in the morning. This morning, I read that one series is tied at 2 to 1 after the last game in which the score was 7 to 5 in the first OT. Methinks the admins are enjoying too many brown pops whilst watching the games. Oh... next game in that series is scheduled for last night.

09 May 09 - 12:44 PM (#2627746)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

I watched the Ducks Wings t'other night. Great hockey! Real hockey.... skating, strategy, finesse... like I said, some chippy but it was minor and behind the play.

Last night I watched the Penguins Caps... thuggery, penalties, chippy crap over and over... I mean, cross checking a guy trying to get up off the ice in front of the net when the puck is 30' away?? And, no penalty??? Does anyone else find such offensive?

I know I asked about the Bing Cherry thing, but the officiating and the play and the coaching I saw last night were ludicrous to me. It was a waste of my time to watch it. Piss poor!

09 May 09 - 02:10 PM (#2627800)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

The Bing comment was actually a tasty treat here, gnu, but may I say somehting else.... and yes I saw a lotta crap last night, hard to sort out.... I responded to your no-nhl-mornings idea below, myself, by going over to Hockey Canada's website to see just what 3refs' frame of reference is.... I came to the conclusion that it's important we remember that 3refs is a hockey pal, here at Mudcat hockey threads, first and foremost, and I hope we can all agree that he's not responsible for NHL decision-making, policies, etc.... we need to be sure we do not put a fellow hockey-pal in an awkward situation.

This may be one of few places where a ref in any league can just "be," eh, and there may be some questions he might not address.

~Susan

09 May 09 - 03:50 PM (#2627847)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Agreed.... hey... everyone is human. BUT, it still pisses me off that cross checking a man in the short ribs while he is on the ice in plain view of a ref is not called. Matter of fact, if I had been reffing, there would have been a double penalty with interference added. And that was not the only incident... on both sides.

Sorry for the rant, but, I'm just sayin.... PLAY hockey!

Sigh... Canucks play at 11:30PM my time tonight.

09 May 09 - 04:05 PM (#2627853)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Yes, I know.... I like to try to keep in mind that the league reviews it ALL. It's not just up to the refs on the ice. At the War Room they can add their own little opportunities for justice. Sometimes we even get to hear about them.

One example-- take the Ovechkin/Gonchar knee hit. If OvieWanGoalobie had hit Gonchar's healing shoulder, that would have been one clear intent to injure. If he had done a hit like he did on either of the D-men assigned to impede his availability to receive passes, same conclusion. From one camera angle of what he did, same conclusion.

From another angle.... uh.... I love my Pens, but I have to admit it was too fast, at that angle, even with slo-mo (over and over), to be sure.... and I dunno what the refs' angles of view were, or what each ref's eyes were actualy looking at in that instant.....

The mind boggles. So I have to say that using the camera to support or overturn the on-ice officials' view seems, to me, the only practical way to go about it.


After an hour of intermission-time, I came to think that the best league decision would be a stiff fine to Ovechkin (and maybe the coach) with a strongly-crafted and legally-delivered warning. He IS a marquee player. Is any league REALLY going to rush to totally change the marketing imnage of a marquee player, with a hasty decision?

Could a ref have been unsure what to do? Might cooler heads prevail after a morning meeting wrestling with it? I look forward to updates-- and another game, tonight.


Try it this way-- can you really see fans understanding how, overnight, Alexander Ovechkin becomes Sean Avery?


That's just ONE of a million or more "moments" the on-ice officials had to address. I would not want their job for ANY money. And without their willingness to attempt the job, we would not have our beloved sport to enjoy.

Checks and balances are a bitch, eh.

~S~

09 May 09 - 04:40 PM (#2627871)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Understood... but, re, "If OvieWanGoalobie had hit Gonchar's healing shoulder..."... ya can't expect a player in the heat of the game to let up on a check bcause someone has a "healing injury". If they are that fragile, they should not be playing.

09 May 09 - 04:50 PM (#2627882)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

No, but the league IS trying to end deliberate hits to areas known to be already-injured.

"Heat of battle" covers a LOT of things IMO.... especially during the playoffs, but I know yer still mad about it. :~)

~S~

09 May 09 - 05:53 PM (#2627927)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

"DEFINITELY not an easy job to "feel" the situation... let em play or call everything? Tough stuff."

The secret is being consistent! You can put the hammer down and wreck a really good hockey game because you end up calling what is referred to as "The Standard". I get alot of "You let em play" whenever I get supervised. What they mean is "You could have filled the box up all night long with little shit, but no majors where missed or needed to be called".

09 May 09 - 06:13 PM (#2627939)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Thanks 3. Spot on from my POV. Still... a hard old job. Dunno if I coulda kept my cool if I was whistlin last night.

Hehehehe... actually, I do know! I lost it in front of the TV in my living room! Hope I didn't wake anybody up. >;-)

09 May 09 - 10:05 PM (#2628053)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Oh I heard you,l gnu!

Oh, Staalsie just scored, here we go....

~S~

09 May 09 - 11:52 PM (#2628076)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

By golly we wunnit!

GO PENGUINS!

And come on home, and put it away.

~S~

10 May 09 - 08:53 AM (#2628231)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert

Well, just for some perspective here... Watching a Caps/Penguins playoff is like watching Lucy pull the football out from Charlie Brown yet again... It does get to be sickening... I mean, let's get real here... These playoffs go back a couple decades and I think that Pittsburg has won about 15 of them to the Caps 1...

Purdy disgusting...

But when it comes to sports, the Washington, D.C. area has been about the most snakebit sports center in the universe...

Wish I wasn't both a sports fan and a homie...

B~

10 May 09 - 12:52 PM (#2628356)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

I have been looking forward to the Ducks Wings for days... now I see it's on at 6PM here... on Mother's Day! Yeah, that's what I'd LIKE to say. grrrrr

10 May 09 - 01:21 PM (#2628375)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Can you say DVR?

~S~

10 May 09 - 01:55 PM (#2628404)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

No way I can stop myself from watch the rest of the game when I get home.

10 May 09 - 02:29 PM (#2628422)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

I am gonna tape the IHF gold medal game between Canada and Russia momentarily, though... so I will have the Ducks Wings on that tape immediately after that.

10 May 09 - 02:32 PM (#2628426)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Beer... better head for the corner store... or were you already there? >;-)

10 May 09 - 02:38 PM (#2628433)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I'm ready. I have to watch it at my neighbors house as I'm not subscribed to tsn. But it happens to be my son's house and I think he has a beer in the fridge.
Adrien

10 May 09 - 02:46 PM (#2628437)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

GO WINGS!

Geez, don't you guys know how to post? :~)

~S~

10 May 09 - 06:12 PM (#2628558)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Canucks came so close. Saw the last 8 seconds... when my great nephews

1 - 0 Wings

started yealling downstarirs

2 - 0 Wings??? Was that a legal goal???

Think I'll watch the game.

10 May 09 - 06:51 PM (#2628580)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Call me crazy, but I was glad to see the Ducks score after such a stupid and dirty penalty... that wasn't just interference, that was an attemted elbow. It missed, but elbowing is thuggery to me. An elbow in the side of the head can kill.

I was sure that slap goal was above the bar, but the slo-mo showed it was not.

Overall, good hockey eh?

10 May 09 - 07:02 PM (#2628586)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

And that there Gadzooks!! guy eh? That there guy can rag that there puck eh? It's like he's got double sided tape on that there stick eh... stick stuck puck er what eh? Geeze oh eh?

Go Wings!

10 May 09 - 07:44 PM (#2628607)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Great game...Can vs Russ! As long as we remember that this was our/theirs "B" team. Not that it wasn't fantastic hockey, but that's not the best we/they have to offer! 2010 might be the best hockey tournament the planet has ever seen!

10 May 09 - 07:59 PM (#2628614)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Silver at 2 to 1 ain't bad eh!

10 May 09 - 09:13 PM (#2628635)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I was worried for a bit. Wings out shooting a playing but the score remaining 2/1 for to long a time as a wing fan. However the results came out as they should. I thought that Pronger was not giving his tops which was just fine for me.
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11 May 09 - 01:28 PM (#2629106)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

3-2, 3-2, 3-2 and 3-2. This has been one of the best 2nd round of the playoffs I can remember in recent years.

Ovetchkin's knee! Glad I didn't have to make that decision. The fact that it was unitentional would have been a consideration in deciding how many games I would have suspended him. 1 for sure!

Scott Walker's sucker punch! I'm not real sure what lead up to the incident, but he's getting 3-5 games from me.

11 May 09 - 04:16 PM (#2629220)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

If only these things were REALLY up to us, wouldn't that be fun? (prolly not) But wunnit be cool to have fantasy officiating along with fantasy teams? We could be pioneers in that concept......

~S~

11 May 09 - 04:33 PM (#2629228)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Susan! 3! Start a website... ask the ref... "Hockey Rules!" A place for fans to learn, to carp...

Get Big Bobby Clobber to do a blog type thing. Don Cherry doing a coach's blog.... maybe even get The Greay One to The Wet Towel Blog.

11 May 09 - 06:04 PM (#2629306)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

All my best ideas have been stolen. Steal it. Send me a cut.

Send Max one, too.

~Susan

11 May 09 - 06:20 PM (#2629320)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Oops... maybe that should have been The Great Whine? Yes.... he was the second greatest hockey player of all time, but that lad sure can ween at times. Dunno why. I mean, if he wanted the Yotes to stay where he's at, why doesn't he just buy them? Pocket change for the Great Weener.

11 May 09 - 06:46 PM (#2629344)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Between Mother's Day, graduation, cooking dinner and a bunch of other activities I did get to watch the Wings game yesterday on my computer (very small screen) but missed all of the first and much of the second period.

I heard about Datsyuk's "over the net" pass but didn't see it until today on YouTube. I've never seen anything like it - anyone see it when it happened? Did the announcers go nuts over it? The replay is just amazing and I'm certain it will be a new color, not only on Pavel's palette, but across the NHL. What a fantastic move! I'm really looking forward to game six tomorrow night and hope we can close it out. Looks like there might be a rematch - Pens & Wings; of course, the Bruins may have something to say about that. Cheers,......mwh

11 May 09 - 07:10 PM (#2629359)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

I saw it. It's too bad it didn't work out... mighta been real cool... almost as cool as "The Crosby".

11 May 09 - 08:06 PM (#2629410)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert

Like watching a snake eat a mouse I reckon I'll check in on the Caps/Penguins game...

B~

11 May 09 - 08:40 PM (#2629439)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

That there must be a rat snake then.... what a game! I expect Susan has had to pee as many times as me!

I love playoff hockey!

Why, I might even watch that there roundball stuff. I heard that's on the go too.

11 May 09 - 09:10 PM (#2629480)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Wash 4-Pitt 3.........minutes left!

11 May 09 - 09:12 PM (#2629482)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Ssssh! We're a period behind on the DVR-- big funeral stuff today has us running late.

WHY is it again that our county does not have free beer delivery???

~S~

11 May 09 - 09:16 PM (#2629486)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Free beer? Delivered? WHERE?????

11 May 09 - 09:17 PM (#2629488)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

MY RECLINER, of course!

~S~

11 May 09 - 09:47 PM (#2629514)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Get your hubby to bring it to ya. My wife does for me.
He! he!.
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Overtime I hear??

11 May 09 - 10:08 PM (#2629525)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Beer overtime... and tickets.

11 May 09 - 10:21 PM (#2629533)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

I said it duiring the 2nd period letdown-- they're losing this game right now. And they did.

Hubby already went and fetched savory sides to go with BBQ for supper. He tired. Neither of us could make it to the beer store, too tired to drive safely-- beer 15 minutes west, food 15 min, east. Got fud.
Big day.

~Susan

11 May 09 - 11:05 PM (#2629554)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Game #7 in hockey(apparently I have to say ice hockey)is the most exciting game of all the major sports game #7's. I really think that any game #7 in any sport at any level is more often than not an "all out affair", but there's just something about the Stanley Cup playoffs! In most cases, as long as my team isn't playing I don't care who is!
Van just scored 4-3!

Enjoy the playoffs!

11 May 09 - 11:09 PM (#2629555)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Lol Susan.
Sorry for your loss this evening. Well lets hope the next game is a turn around for you.
My wife has never bought a beer for me from the local store. And that is O.K. I can get it very easily if i want.
ad.

12 May 09 - 05:18 AM (#2629682)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

There are some health concerns with beer I will not go into, but recently we were able to reintroduce it in small quantities. Hardi bought porter. Being too tired to fetch it last night for the half=glass each we can have, we comforted ourselves thus: the new tradition will be "no beer till they get into the playoffs, and then one ritual six-pack of very good stuff per series."

= No new sixpack till they earn their way into the next series. So no beer unless they win #7 and start the next. Hardi will buy.

~Susan

12 May 09 - 08:15 AM (#2629757)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert

Not to worry, WYSuzie... Like I said, for Caps fans watchin' a Caps/Penguins playoff series is like watchin' a snake devour a mouse... We no lnger expect to win these things 'cause it only happens once outta every 10 or so times... So we watch from a morbid curiousity mindset...

Actually, that applies to all Washington, D.C. sports... Redskins, Bullets (Wizards), Mystics, Nationals... They all suck and have for decades... 'Cept the Mystics and Nationals who only suck going back to gettin' here...

So not to fear, WYSuzie...

B~

12 May 09 - 09:30 AM (#2629830)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Thanks, Boberino, but....

The problem is.... that as an "RCF," (recovering Chicago fan, all sports), I know that the flipside of your reassuring mindset is part of my path to sure, hoodwinked destruction. "We can still win this thing" is the mantra of many a heart-crushed Chicagoan as we go down to the dust. Even as the Bulls and the Bears celebrated the championship wins they DID finally achieve, that was still the mantra, with its "maybe next year" echo in counterpoint.

So I cannot, as a RCF, if I really want to aim for total wellness, allow myself the start thinking that the Pens/Caps record means a damn thing. The TVblatters were FULL of assurances last night that no game-6-elimination-game had even been won by the Caps, and then, of course, they DID.


See our struggle? And beerlessly.

~Susan

12 May 09 - 08:22 PM (#2630406)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

The Bruins are growling.

12 May 09 - 09:10 PM (#2630432)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Ref

Of course the Bruins are growling. They've been screwed yet again by the NHL brass. Nothing like a little injustice to stimulate the lads!

12 May 09 - 09:43 PM (#2630456)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert

Not to worry, WYSuzie...

The Caps will blow it... They are not as good a team as the Penguins... They cannot keep control of the puck... Pittsburg can and will in Game 7... Pittsburg will outshoot the Caps by at least 10 shots and will win...

Guarenteed!!!

12 May 09 - 10:07 PM (#2630462)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

No mention of Chi. upset?

I don't see them taking the Wings if it goes that way, but if the Wings loose I think they would have a fair shot at beating the Avalanche

13 May 09 - 12:03 AM (#2630501)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Oh, no, this does not look good for the Wings. I sure hope they come out storming in the third or it's back to the Joe on Thursday; which, really stinks for me (selfishness here, to be sure)as I've got a show that day at 5pm, my daughter's senior choir dinner at 6:30pm, senior choir performance (her solo) at 7:30pm - and the Red Wings will be playing elimination game #7 at the same time. Well, I'm just going to have to leave the choir performance early enough to catch the third period. Damn it! It's not fair! Of course, in a few minutes the guys could come out storming, sustain it for twenty minutes, and kick hell out of the Ducks. GO RED WINGS! Cheers,..........mwh

13 May 09 - 06:46 AM (#2630670)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

We have a period left of the Chi game to see later-- am I gonna like it?

~S~

13 May 09 - 07:20 AM (#2630687)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Game 7 can be new territory for many!

"I've watched a lot of Game 7s, but this will be my first one," Crosby said before his team headed off to Washington where it will meet the Capitals tonight at the Verizon Center.

"I've never played one in juniors -- or any level."

Hockey Night in Canada's Ron MacLean once described Game 7 as "the two most exciting words in sport."

"There are few sporting events as compelling as a Game 7 in the N.H.L. playoffs. Maybe the final round of a golf major, but that depends who's in the running. Certainly not do-or-die games in the baseball postseason, many of which end around sunrise EST. Super Bowls amount to corporate schmaltz, with the continuity of the contest destroyed by the glut of advertising. Some prefer the N.B.A. playoffs. But, no, not me. Give me a Game 7 in the Stanley Cup playoffs, any round, any teams, with the season hanging on every rush up ice, every goalmouth scrum."
Stu Hakcel

13 May 09 - 08:08 AM (#2630723)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert

Vegas odds on the Caps winning tonight: 1 in 3...

I'd say that it very optomistic for the Caps...

I would be stunned if any Washington team made the finals in anything... Tiddly winks included...

B~

13 May 09 - 09:23 AM (#2630792)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Severn might take offense there, Bobert!

13 May 09 - 09:51 AM (#2630816)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Three games down to the wire. And all three should be great.
Adrien

13 May 09 - 08:02 PM (#2631226)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

The Cherry said REFEREES ARE HUMAN! Seriously. I have it on tape. The Cherry... seriously. I may have to play it back and make sure, but I heard it... I think... better play it back... a few times... to make sure.

GO LITTLE BIRDS THAT DON'T FLY!

13 May 09 - 08:05 PM (#2631228)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Bobert, as God is my witness, please don't jinx my Pens by bad-mouthing your Caps. :~) These first two goals for instance are a SURE sign we will ultimately lose by pissing it away with a letdown of focus.

I mean 3 goals....

~S~

13 May 09 - 08:11 PM (#2631232)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Hahahahahahaaaaa.... good one. But... it can turn on an ice chrystal... careful.

13 May 09 - 08:23 PM (#2631235)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Okay... go for it. >;-)

13 May 09 - 09:03 PM (#2631256)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert

WYSuzie,

Ain't no jinx on yer beloved Penguins, who BTW had beaten the Caps every playoff series, except 1 (that's one) going back to the days of Columbus and the flat earth...

I'm not watching the game 'cause it's a Washington, D.C> sports team in a playoff... That means that 99.99999% of the time the Washington sports team looses...

Talk about a jinx...

Try growin' up around here!!!

Watch baseball steal not one, but 2, of yer teams... Watch 30 years of crappy basketball teams... 20 years and counting of crappy football teams...

The only good news is that we went 30 years without a crappy baseball team 'cuase we didn't have baseball for 30 years... Or was it 40 years... Prolly closer to 40...

So ya'll gloat about how great the mighty Penguins are...

Who cares???

I told ya'll that it was gonna go like this... Believe me... We folks 'round D.C. know the deal...

The Caps would have lost to Helen Keller... lol...

B;~(

13 May 09 - 09:08 PM (#2631260)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

6-1. 4 and change left in the third. Not the game I expected. Hate to kick him when he's down, but your only as good as your goalie. Not a good day to have a bad game!

Good Luck Pens!!!!
.....now 6-2. Too little, too late!

13 May 09 - 09:09 PM (#2631262)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

nO, REALLY, i SWAR, aS AN rcf, AT THIS POINT i AM SAYING, WE MIGHT STILL WIN THIS ONE. oops sorry

"We might still win this one...." As if we are down 6-1 instead of up 6-1. And just as I said, they're risking pissing it away-- it just went 6-2. We gave them life. I AM glad to see they scored on Theodore, but not 5 goals, eh? You wait and we'll see....

~S~

13 May 09 - 10:35 PM (#2631303)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

gONNA HAve to see it twice more to be sure, Versus and local.

~S~

14 May 09 - 06:56 AM (#2631491)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Did I mention we're originally from Chicago?

GO PENS
GO HAWKS
GO 'CANES
GO WINGS

~S~

14 May 09 - 11:14 AM (#2631696)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Oh my... hour apart starts... WingsBruinsWingsBruins...

But, I have two TVs stacked for such occasions.

14 May 09 - 02:10 PM (#2631859)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

And we have a freezer full of ready-to-heat BBQ. What a shame!

Again, I issue the invite-- MudGather, our house, with DVR, BBQ, and BYO beer? Maybe NHL games on puder, too-- think it's fast enough, maybe the laptop is as well. Laptop radio for sure.

~Susan

14 May 09 - 06:48 PM (#2632056)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert

Well, there is a silver lining about being a Washington, DC sprts fan and that is alot more time to rake leaves, mow grass, shovel snow or just watch "I LOve Lucy" reruns... Ya see, when yer homies never ever make it to the finals of anything then you just don't get that "final's" mindset so for us, when the last regular season game is over, and usually well before, we have lost interest in that particualr sport...

Then we get all hyped up about the next looser and root for it until it craps out and then back to raking leaves, mowing shoveling snow or Lucy and Ethel...

Only folks in DC understand this... Actually, it's kinda a blessing... Frees up alot of time...

B~

14 May 09 - 06:51 PM (#2632060)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

You need to become a RCF, too, Bobert. I tell you, I DO understand....

Here's how we handle such moments in Mudcat hockey threads. Pick another team to throw your support towards, and get hockeyhappy.

GO BOBERDZ SURROGATE TEAM!

~S~

14 May 09 - 07:37 PM (#2632076)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert

Okay, I'm pullin' fir the Wes Ginny Wildcats...

Go Wildcats!!! Tear 'um up and spit their heads out...

(There ain't no Wes Ginny Wildcats, Boberdz...)

There ain't??? Well, if there were they sho nuff be kickin' butt and takin' names....

Go Wildcats!!! Tear 'um up and spit their heads out...

I'm kinda gettin' into this post season stuff, WYSuszie... Thankx...

B;~)

14 May 09 - 08:48 PM (#2632128)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Yah hey dere.

~S~

14 May 09 - 10:03 PM (#2632184)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Stand up and CHEER or sit down and MOAN,
Dan Cleary me by's is taken it home.
Adrien

I love the Hawks as well but the Wings come first.

14 May 09 - 11:12 PM (#2632209)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Here is a thought.
Time Out is usually taken near the end of a period or at game's end. However no one ever speaks about the time outs that take place for commercials. Right?
Adrien

14 May 09 - 11:34 PM (#2632225)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: maire-aine

Woo-hoo! Go Wings. And the series against the Black Hawks is gonna be great. One of those old-fashioned hockey rivalries....

Maryanne
Royal Oak, MI

15 May 09 - 12:00 AM (#2632240)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Beer, that's called the media time out, and it's not charged to either team. Ain't one in overtime tho.

~S~

15 May 09 - 08:26 AM (#2632451)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

A-Each Team shall be permitted to take one thirty-second time-out during the course of any game, regular-season or playoffs.

B-This time-out must be taken during a normal stoppage of play. Only one time-out, commercial or Team, shall be permitted at any one stoppage of play.
(NOTE) For the purpose of this Rule, a commercial stoppage in play is deemed to be an "official time-out" and not charged to either Team.

C-Any player designated by the Coach will indicate to the Referee (prior to the drop of the puck) that his Team is exercising its option and the Referee will report the time-out to the Game

D-Timekeeper who shall be responsible for signaling the termination of the time-out.

E-No time-out shall be granted following a face-off violation.
(NEW for 2005-06) When a penalty shot has been awarded to either Team by the Referee, no time-out will be granted once instructions have been given to the player taking the shot and the goalkeeper defending the shot. No time-out will be granted during the shootout.

Whats the call?

An attacking player strips the defenseman of the puck at the defenceman's blueline. Attacking player is clearly on a breakaway when he is tripped by the defenseman. The attacking player is able to return to his skates, still in possession of the puck and continues towards the net. As the attacking player continues towards the goal, still on a breakaway, he is clearly hooked from behind by the other defenceman!

No peaking.....what's yer call?

15 May 09 - 08:38 AM (#2632465)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

First 3refs, thank you for the explaination.
Here is my guess to "What's Your Call?"
I would say the answer is a Double Minor.
Adrien

15 May 09 - 08:52 AM (#2632481)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

My call... dummy shoulda stayed down.

15 May 09 - 09:31 AM (#2632521)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Adrien.....nice try, but wrong!

gnu........player was from western Canada and they won't stay down!

15 May 09 - 10:03 AM (#2632544)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Lets try this again.
Tripping penalty to be called if defending team touches the puck. Ref's hand is up. However the player gets up and takes off again but is hooked. Ref calls a penalty shot. Man in box for tripping even if the goalie is scored upon on the penalty shot.
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15 May 09 - 10:45 AM (#2632559)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Beer.....close, but no cigar!

Hint, hint..... both infractions would have resulted in a penalty shot if they had happened at different times of the game, but they happened simultaneously during the regular coarse of play with no stoppages in between!

15 May 09 - 12:06 PM (#2632611)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

1. I'm thrilled to see the schedule for the CF flatters Gonchar's leg healing. It's a huge advantage for us; hope we use it well.

2. I hope my Wings-fan friends here will remember my steadfast admiration of them these last several years. But I am originally a Hawks fan, so.... but I'm OK with whichever team wins that series-- it will be such GREAT HOCKEY.

3. I'm actually OK if the Canes win the Pens series, too, but GO PENS!

4. Are ANY of you coming over? :~)


2009 Stanley Cup Playoffs - Conf. Finals Schedule
As of Thursday, 05.14.2009 / 7:05 PM / 2009 Playoffs Conference Finals
NHL.com

The National Hockey League today announced the dates for the 2009 Stanley Cup Playoff Conference Finals, which begin in the Western Conference on Sunday, May 17 when the Detroit Red Wings host the Chicago Blackhawks. The Eastern Conference Final will match the Pittsburgh Penguins against the Carolina Hurricanes and will start on Monday, May 18.

National rightsholders NBC and VERSUS in the United States and CBC, TSN and RDS in Canada will provide exclusive broadcast coverage of the Conference Finals. All games also will be carried on Sirius XM Radio. Start times and broadcast information will be announced when available.


  2009 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS
  SERIES M         
  #4 Penguins                 vs. #6 Hurricanes                   Networks
  Monday, May 18               at Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, TSN, RDS
  Thursday, May 21      at Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, TSN, RDS
  Saturday, May 23      at Carolina, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
  Tuesday, May 26       at Carolina, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
  * Friday, May 29      at Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
  * Sunday, May 31      at Carolina, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
  * Tuesday, June 2     at Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
                                 
  2009 WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS
  SERIES N         
  #2 Wings                vs. #4 Hawks                Network
  Sunday, May 17               at Detroit, 3:00 p.m.         NBC, TSN, RDS
  Tuesday, May 19       at Detroit, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, TSN, RDS
  Friday, May 22               at Chicago, 8:00 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
  Sunday, May 24               at Chicago, 3:00 p.m.         NBC, CBC, RDS
  * Wednesday, May 27   at Detroit, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
  * Saturday, May 30    at Chicago, 8:00 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
  * Monday, June 1      at Detroit, 7:30 p.m.         VERSUS, CBC, RDS
  
  -  * denotes if necessary
  -  All Times are Eastern Standard Time


With pretty HTML: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=422796

~S~

15 May 09 - 12:50 PM (#2632640)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Thanks for that Susan.
Adrien

15 May 09 - 01:05 PM (#2632661)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Subject to change.

Come on over! Come on OVERRRRR........!


We got two recliners and a couch in the living room plus 4 wing chairs (WING chairs, LOL) with all the pink colors covered up, and two camping recliners and two more upholstered recliners to bring in.

And a GREAT pub-dog dog (according to Leadfingers) who hears goals being scored and celebrates with us. Several boxes of treats so each person can reward him for their own teams' goals. Lapcats indoors and out....

Porches.... campers to sleep in for the highly-allergic, not to mention the kingbed in the MuDDorm if any spously fan-pairs attend.....

A whole fridge just for beer! A smoker, ready to load..... a grill or two.... at least a gallon and a half of BBQ sauce (two kinds) and wasabi...... aw, come on over!

PLAN NOW FOR NEXT YEAR.

~S~

15 May 09 - 01:21 PM (#2632671)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Before it gets lost!

Two penelty shots would be awarded.
If on the first attempt, a goal is scored, the second penelty (shot) would revert to a time penelty. If no goal is scored on the first attemp, a second penelty shot would be awarded. If no goal is scored on the second attempt, play would resume and no time penelties would need to be served.
Reasoning is that you can only score 1 goal at a time during the normal coarse of play, but you can assess more than one penelty at any time during the hockey game!

15 May 09 - 01:42 PM (#2632686)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

PENALTY.....making that mistake for years!

15 May 09 - 02:03 PM (#2632698)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Yeah! Fact is, you said he HAD a breakaway but was tripped... penalty shot. Then, he had a second breakaway and was hooked... penalty shot.

Now, I did not know that the second penalty would revert to a time penalty if the first penalty shot resulted in a goal. But, since you clearly explained the logic behind the decision, it makes perfect sense... which I sometimes have a lack of.

Okay... here's one for yas... if Eddy Shack wakes up in a bed without any floral prints on the sheets, did the "opposing" player clear the track?

15 May 09 - 04:26 PM (#2632791)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Is that Shaq the basketball player? Who's Eddie Shack?

~S~

15 May 09 - 04:38 PM (#2632805)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Toronto entertainer..........In hockey that is (was).
Adrien

15 May 09 - 04:53 PM (#2632817)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

A precursor to the Cherry archetype?

~S~

15 May 09 - 04:54 PM (#2632819)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

"entertainer"... hahahahahaaaaa... heheheheheheeeee

15 May 09 - 05:01 PM (#2632825)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Who indeed!

15 May 09 - 05:08 PM (#2632830)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Oh my... Beer... the video voiceover said "entertainer" at the end of that video! Hehehehee.

Could not find a version of "Clear The Track"... here comes Eddie Shack.

15 May 09 - 05:12 PM (#2632833)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

BTW... part of that video shows Shack "avoiding" fights. Not quite what the man was all about... quite to the contrary... quite comical for those that remember "The Nose".

15 May 09 - 10:23 PM (#2633014)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Just got back form an evening of blues. Next week it is Celtic music featuring none other and my sidekick accordion player from the Rock(Newfoundland that is.).
Gnu, Eddy was one heck of an entertainer, although it was not fake like wrestling back in those younger years of our imagination. If I recall correctly there was a big media build up in a game that was going to take place between Montreal and Toronto featuring a great fight that would involve John Ferguson and Eddy. I think Eddy got punched in the nose that night or he took off on a run and Fergie chasing him into the dressing room.

3refs, that was a great quiz and as Gnu said, the explanation makes sense. Well thought out ruling.
Thanks for opening your doors Susan but I'm afraid it would not be possible for me. Great invite though.
Adrien

16 May 09 - 06:20 AM (#2633191)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

John Fergusson! "Never throw the second punch."

I can see why hockey has such a bad rep. Hard to explain the violence to someone who never laced up. Kinda hard to "explain" it at all. I stopped watching hockey when it got real bad back in 70s and only watch the playoffs to this day.

16 May 09 - 11:00 AM (#2633312)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Will the Hurricans blow away the Penguins? Will the Blackhawks clip the Redwings?

16 May 09 - 11:34 AM (#2633322)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

I think both series will be nail-biting toss-ups. It will not surprise me if the teams with more experience eventually spot weaknesses to exploit-- and exploit them ruthlessly. But I think it will come down to coaching strategic adjustments, as I have said in past years, in the end-- and depth of bench.

On that note, look out for the Pens' bench. Their farm team is scary-good and, because of injuries earlier in the season, a number of their best have logged bigtime playing minutes with the Pens. Bylsma didn't see them in P'burgh.... but he coached them. :~) Chemistry plus skill.... scary good.

~S~

17 May 09 - 11:34 AM (#2633898)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

^ A toast to all the refs, linesmen, off-ice officials-- and MOST 'specially the War Room personnel-- that every decision be confirmed from the rafters (hockey gods) and be Right Hockey Thinking.

| And if they don't act as described above, then this is what I wish them. (Hint: it has a fingernail I can't type.)

Let the games begin.

GO HAWKS!

~S~

17 May 09 - 01:05 PM (#2633949)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Chiiiiicago, my kinda town.
Chiiiiicago, shoot them Wings down.
They call it the windy city.
They're gonna be sittin pretty,
When the kick the Wings in the rear.
And youuuu know whooo will be cryinnnnn in his Beeeerrrrr.

I tease you because I l... l... like you, man.

17 May 09 - 03:01 PM (#2634042)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Da da da da dahhh dadahhhhhh!!!!

17 May 09 - 03:12 PM (#2634055)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Dahhh? Just yap yap yap and advertisements?

17 May 09 - 03:32 PM (#2634066)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Oh yeah.... worth the wait.... I can still here my old man's first words to me when I laced up for the first time... "Put the puck on the net."

17 May 09 - 03:58 PM (#2634091)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Great start to a great series, taping hi-def and reg-def here!

No spoilers, please-- gonna see half after 8PM.


~S~

17 May 09 - 04:01 PM (#2634092)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Can the Hawks continue to set the pace at "too fast"? Is that a good strategy? Too fast and maybe get a goal and wear down the more experienced team?

In the end, even though I am cheering for the Hawks, I ask, what would Scotty do?

17 May 09 - 04:04 PM (#2634098)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

~S~? What? You mean, don't post the score on this thread? Ahhhh.... don't read the thread... because when the Hawks eat the Wings, I am gonna crow.

Put dat puck on dat net la!

17 May 09 - 05:56 PM (#2634195)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

MMFFTT!

17 May 09 - 07:33 PM (#2634245)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

O.K. I'm back and what's this Gnu?? "When the kick the Wings in the rear.
And youuuu know whooo will be cryinnnnn in his Beeeerrrrr."

Great game,and Susan goes in the penelty box for that last post.
Gnu. Your in for it. This Wing will not go down without a fight.
I'll be kind to you Susan and not say what the score was.

Your gonna eat CROW Gnu.. Just wait.
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17 May 09 - 07:55 PM (#2634257)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

No need, Beer. I was gonna cheer for Chicago just to piss you off for fun, BUT.... I CANNOT abide dirty play. That crap at the end of the game was nasty and... dirty... DIRTY! I spit on the Blackhawks and hope the bastards never win a cup again! The fact that they won a cup in the 60s pisses me off at the moment.

What is wrong with these kids? and their coaches and management? This is 2009! This is not pond hockey for beer. It's not about... oooo... I am so pissed off... I wanna watch hockey and that does not include who you can injure after you know you are gonna lose a game... assholes.

17 May 09 - 08:26 PM (#2634290)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Don't go away Gnu. There is some crap that takes place like at the end of the game but the quickness of the game, the precise pin point passing to set up plays are amazing to watch. Detroit in the past few years have been known as a controlled team and not to get into the fighting type that you still find and they have been criticized for it. But I want to see fast skating hockey like last year's finalist. One of the greatest series I have ever witnessed. It helped that the Wings won but man what a final. There will be lots more penalties up coming but lets hope it is not for spearing or cross checking.
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17 May 09 - 09:07 PM (#2634324)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

It WAS a great game... fantastic skating and puck handling finesse... end to end and never a dull moment. But, that dirty crap at the end? That ruined a great game for me.

Fuck... I am gettin old... am I gettin old??? Maybe I'll skip a few games and get some work done in the garden. If I ain't hooked to badly.

Oh, and my buddy Victor and I bet a buck on the series today... I might watch the next game.

17 May 09 - 09:55 PM (#2634360)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Hey, I can ignore the Cat, but y'all also can respect my reasonable request.

===

I had said: It will not surprise me if the teams with more experience eventually spot weaknesses to exploit-- and exploit them ruthlessly. But I think it will come down to coaching strategic adjustments, as I have said in past years, in the end-- and depth of bench.

We all saw the former. I hope to see the latter in Game 2.

GO PENS! GO HAWKS!

~Susan

17 May 09 - 10:02 PM (#2634362)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Tell you what.
I bet you a case of that training beer you like and I'll take a bottle of johnny Walker Blue label on the series. Next time I come down (just a 10/11 hour hike we can settle up.
Deal??
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18 May 09 - 07:07 AM (#2634589)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Nah.... let's make it more interesting... say... loser shaves his head. Heheheeeee.

Nope. I won't bet on hockey. I just like to watch good hockey. Betting would just spoil it for me. Now, I bet Vic a loonie, but that's pocket change.

18 May 09 - 08:19 AM (#2634640)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Damn it Gnu. Blue Label is only around $200.00

I don't bet as well.
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18 May 09 - 11:06 AM (#2634741)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

What a great game that was-- I hope the Pens series is as exciting, from the jump.

~Susan

18 May 09 - 11:11 AM (#2634744)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

What a great game that was-- I hope the Pens series is as exciting, from the jump.

Sorry, hut submit too soon.

I have a question for anyone who has seen more hockey than I have. :~) I noticed, in the faceoffs, that at least one of the Hawks was doing a wiggly thing with his stick blade. I know that the visiting team has to put stick down first, but I suspect that what I saw was not nerves, but a tactic to distract the home-team's face-off opponent. Being from Chicago and all, I can see that emanating from there... :~)

I did not see the jersey name/number each time to see if it was one guy (nerves) or two (purposeful).

So did anyone see more than one guy doing that, and is it legal, and what do you think about it? Keep an eye out in the next Hawks game and you should see what I saw if you have not already.

~Susan

18 May 09 - 03:56 PM (#2635065)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Didn't notice that. Thanks. As for distracting, I never used to look at anything but the puck when my stick went down.

18 May 09 - 10:24 PM (#2635355)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Gave was much slower than the Detroit/Chi. game In my opinion but I'm sure it will pick up. Great last five minutes. Nail biter for sure.
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19 May 09 - 12:22 AM (#2635398)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Take any two teams; any game; Stanley Cup playoffs; five minutes left in 3rd period; tied or one goal difference - and you will be in for some excitement - guaranteed.

Yesterday's game was so nice to watch from my perspective because the game was mostly very well played, and, I don't dislike the Chicago Blackhawks. I do, however, hate the Ducks BIG TIME and was very glad to have watched Cleary (11) slip that puck in with about three minutes left to take them out in round two.

Very nice game today. Could be wrong, but I doubt if the 'Canes will take the Pens in this series and it seems likely there'll be a repeat of last year's final round. This is great stuff for hockey fans. Cheers to all. GO RED WINGS GO!

19 May 09 - 08:42 AM (#2635612)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

GO PENS, GO!

I think the 'Canes unconsciously assumed that once they'd whipped the Broons, they'd be able to whip anybody. When they found out otherwise, THEN they went to work and but for Fleury they'd have gotten us. Next game will show who really wants this.

~Susan

19 May 09 - 03:55 PM (#2635983)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Less than 4 hours to the next skating and strategy contest!

19 May 09 - 10:51 PM (#2636231)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Here are a few thoughts on tonights game. We won but I was disappointed in their play. The Wings did not control the game and it could very easily been won by the Hawks.
The second point is .... What the hell is wrong with the TSN sound?? I have to turn the sound on the T.V. way the f.....k up to hear the announcers but still their hockey traffic is louder than than the announcers. Bring back the CBC. Very clear with them.
Ad.
P.S. Will have one more before I retire.
"Love my Wings"
Ooops. "OUR WINGS"

20 May 09 - 12:16 AM (#2636262)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Had to attend my daughter's final choral production of her high school days so I missed the game; proud of her though, she's been the principal vocalist her last two years. My cousin kept me abreast of the score by cell; got home just after the game ended and they were interviewing Sammuelson. GOOD SHOW RED WINGS! I know the team will probably get rid of some players after the season but I do like Sammy and I hope he stays. Here's to a "Game 3" Red Wings victory over the Blackhawks - GO RED WINGS!....................mwh

20 May 09 - 12:58 AM (#2636269)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I'm in the bag Mike. Liked what I read.
Adrien

20 May 09 - 08:17 AM (#2636453)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I apoligize for that last post. Must behave myself.
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20 May 09 - 04:05 PM (#2636864)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Misread posts:

Saw:
I apoligize for that last post. Must have been myself.
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Actually was:
I apoligize for that last post. Must behave myself.
ad.

I like it, either way. :~)

~S~

20 May 09 - 05:24 PM (#2636944)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Hahahahahaaa! Good one ~S~!

Ahhh, buddy. Not to worry. The breathalyzer on my keyboard malfunctions sometimes too. But, when mine does, it's usually not so innocuous. Matter of fact, I'd commend you on your honesty and brevity. Best to let it float away into the ether. Nevermore, quoth the raven.

20 May 09 - 10:51 PM (#2637184)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

That is funny Susan as I look back. But not to far back.
Wonder what happened tonight in the Pits/Hur. game. Just back from a festival meeting. Will have a look. Oops, it's tomorrow night.
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20 May 09 - 11:07 PM (#2637187)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Yes, another night to anticipate it, even more excitement to build up.

Fittin' to BBQ some steak and then settle back and watch the 'Canes beat the crap out of the Pens.

With some nice porter though. Half a glass, it's hell getting old.

~S~

21 May 09 - 10:56 PM (#2638182)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Is it just me, or are the Canes really not all that good; or, are the Pens that much better than the canes? I'm confused about the Eastern Conference. Searching for a Smithwicks,............mwh

21 May 09 - 11:10 PM (#2638188)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Must buy more beeeerrrr.....

~S~

22 May 09 - 12:00 AM (#2638206)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Searching for a Smithwicks.
Sorry Mike, I'm out.
I'll behave.

I think in some cases it has all to do if you turn up a few aces. Like great goal tending.
I'm gonna muss the first period or two tomorrow but I'll get home for the last hopefully.
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22 May 09 - 07:33 AM (#2638397)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: GUEST

Seeing as this is not too much of a limb to go out on, I'll make an early prediction and say Wings-Pens final. I'll make another that says Crosby will win the Maple Leaf Gardens Trophy!
"Out of Gas" will be the phrase used by both Chicago and Carolina. You have to role out 4 lines not 3 to win at this time of year.
Just for giggles, I'd like to see team pictures taken before and after the playoffs. No doubt about(not a boot)it, these hockey players take a "shit kickin" like no other sport!

22 May 09 - 08:10 AM (#2638422)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Didn't realize I wasn't logged in!

22 May 09 - 09:48 AM (#2638477)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

In Energizer bunny-suits; the caption:

"We take a take a shit kickin and keep on stickin'!"

===

I was a little stunned myself-- "what just happened here?"


This AM I think I know.

Did any of you see the TV ad at the beginning of the season where Crosby gets up and steps out of a photo taken at his most discouraged, at the end of last year's final? He sez, "I don't ever want to feel that way again." That is PART of how and why they won. They all remember-- those who were there, and those who came later but have been there before.


Another part of it is Geno's parents being here this year. The Russian soul can be a dark soul. Depression can be a bad bear. 'Nuff said? When he lights up and his legs get that odd spidery-configuration, he IS going to score several goals. Try to hurt him when you hit, and that is what you will get. Especially now that the folks are there to see it. Last night I saw his dad weeping with joy. No big, bad-ass hockey player is gonna spell out why he wants his mommy and daddy there, but there it is. Geno has momma's face and enthusiasm... and poppa's soul.

Another part is that our coaching change is going better than their coaching change. The 'Canes have forgotten one of LaViolettes' biggest messages to them as a team, and they need to get it back-- I am not going to tell them! LV's angle was, "win every period." Period. Win the first one, and then wipe it out. Win the 2nd. Then win the 3rd. If you do that, you win the game, without overtime. Saves gas, discourages opponents. I think they also miss his defensive-end coaching and his ability to change strategy mid-game. Bylsma came in at the time the Pens were ready to graduate Therrien's bachelor's program and start their doctorates. Maurice has some team development yet to do. His guys are older pro's. They're a little harder to "motivate."

===

But I still don't effin' believe it. 'Canes will take next two with home ice line-changes. Then we have to win the two home games or one at their place to get it in 6. I think the 'Canes will smarten up quicker than that. Iffen we do pull it off, it's what I said before-- depth plus coaching.

~S~

22 May 09 - 09:58 PM (#2638990)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I was just finishing up my set of music at a local coffee house when this fellow came up to me and said that Detroit was loosing 3 nothing. I said "You really know how to hurt a guy, but it ain't over yet." Got home and it is now 3/3.
It is a new game.
Go Wings.

22 May 09 - 11:05 PM (#2639013)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Fuuuuuuuuuuuudge
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23 May 09 - 05:27 AM (#2639150)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Nail biter!

23 May 09 - 08:01 AM (#2639201)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

This series has been so much like watching the Pens/Wings LAST year. Including the Hawks, last night, giving the opponent life after racking up the lead. But once the Wings decided to stop self-destructing, I really thought they were gonna pull it off, in regulation. !Sorpresa completa!

GO PENS
GO HAWKS (sorry)

~S~

23 May 09 - 03:32 PM (#2639452)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Art Thieme

Yes, Susan, for sure!

Hockey is again fun in Chicago. The kids are for real--no matter how far they go.

And management has revived it's own sanity. Rocky Wirtz is doing grand now that Bullwinkle is dead.

Art

23 May 09 - 10:47 PM (#2639668)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

GOGOGOGO PENS!

~S~

24 May 09 - 12:04 AM (#2639698)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Some how I get the impression that a whole lot of people are cheering for Chicago - especially the NHL big suits. There are those Detroit "haters" out there who always like to see them lose; and, Chicago is a bigger market than Detroit, so the NHL would love to have them in the finals. Never-the-less, I'm still convinced that the Red Wings are the best team in hockey and they should prevail; I also think that Pittsburgh is the best in the east and they're proving it. That said, when you have your top defensive player break his stick, in his own end, in overtime - well, there are some things you just cannot control; and, if you're on the other side, why,...you capitalize - unless, of course, you're the Capitals.
We're looking forward to tomorrow. GO RED WINGS GO!          mwh

24 May 09 - 07:37 AM (#2639791)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

We're looking forward to tomorrow.

Us too. :~)

~S~

24 May 09 - 07:13 PM (#2640087)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

6/2 Wings.
No comment.
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25 May 09 - 12:54 AM (#2640240)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

No comment needed Beer. 6-1 Red Wings without the aid of Lidstrom,
Datsyuk or Draper. Amazing; simply amazing. GO RED WINGS!...mwh

25 May 09 - 09:47 AM (#2640415)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Yas, yas, get ready...

GO PENS!

~S~

25 May 09 - 05:42 PM (#2640767)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Not long now before a hopefully great game.
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25 May 09 - 07:40 PM (#2640844)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Well.... it's at least one sleep!!!! wahhhhhh

I wanna watch the next game now!

GO PENGWINGS!

25 May 09 - 08:07 PM (#2640860)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

I guess I gotta join that yell because "Go Penghawks" just sounds so WRONG. Try it yourself-- Gawk? Gwawk? Penguak?

Some Scottish thing? Welsh? The mind boggles.

But I wanna see Asian hockey, next. Samurai or Shaolin, on skates-- no kidding.

And BTW I am SURE Fleury has studied with the Shaolin martial-arts monks. The only similar body-movements I've seen anywhere come from there. Ballet, heck-- it's Shaolin. Go look, you'll see. The perfect training for goalies.

~S~

26 May 09 - 07:18 AM (#2641075)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Got all primed up for last night's game only to find out I jumped a day ahead of myself.
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26 May 09 - 11:14 AM (#2641181)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

We were having an interesting chat yesterday on the way home from a GREAT Memorial Day picnic, about what happens behind the scenes during the playoffs as each team's whole organization may or may not get involved in the preparation. We opined that the way I like to look at the whole game is much more from the GM-side than the coaching side.

So I looked back to the start of this thread to see what I said about our ECHL team, and bingo-- we made it exactly as far as I had predicted.

Now, for the Stanley Cup, I don't have a prediction at this point about the Pens. All I can really say for sure is that I hope-- given what we have been told about the Final scheduling-- that this series continues to be a helpful learning laboratory for the Pens and that they win the series but without incurring TOO much rest time till the Final starts.

The start date for the Final was set in stone, I believe, and planned to start earlier ONLY if both of the current series "swept." So anyone finishing too early is gonna have some rust time. I want the Pens to keep learning and working out. A few days to heal up, fine, but only a very few, IMO, will work.

Of course that assumes the Canes don't find out how to beat them. And that gets back to the GM side. Hope their's ain't any too swift. :~)

GO PENS!

Adrien, there is a game tonight-- not your team, but I'm off beer for the evening so please consider mine, yours.

~S~

26 May 09 - 01:28 PM (#2641262)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

I have three in the fridge and I'll consider them all from you Susan. Canadian beer though.
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26 May 09 - 01:55 PM (#2641277)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Hockey is Canookian, eh. Why not the beer.

~S~

26 May 09 - 07:04 PM (#2641489)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Go Pengwings! Are you ready?

26 May 09 - 07:14 PM (#2641502)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

I AM

~S~

26 May 09 - 08:28 PM (#2641556)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Not me. I'll wait till the Wings Win and the Penguins do as well before I eliminate Chi. and Carl.
I remember packing up the baseball equipment once in the bottom of the 9th because we were leading the team by 10 runs and lost, so never again.
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26 May 09 - 10:18 PM (#2641602)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

Pitt is going to be tough to beat! I thought 4 straight would be a bit of a stretch against Carolina, but they did it! I wouldn't dare consider it against Detroit, but stranger things have happened. My apologies to Chicago fans for already counting them out, but youth and enthusiasm isn't quite enough at this point in the playoffs. Out of Gas. I'll take Pittsburgh in 6 and like I said before, Crosby gets a trophy of Maple Leaf Gardens!
I know it's getting a little ahead of things, but I see Pitt and Chicago with lots of potential for years to come if they can keep it together. It all depends on how greedy the players are, and how stupid the GM's throughout the league are willing to get!

26 May 09 - 11:09 PM (#2641613)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Tonight we saw the game we THOUGHT we would see the last 3 games. Good game, good win.

GO HAWKS!

Well, I admit, I WOULD rather face them next.

GO HOCKEY!

~Susan

26 May 09 - 11:39 PM (#2641619)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: bobad

There hasn't been much drama in the finals for someone who doesn't have a horse in the race. Here's hoping the run for the cup will provide a little more excitement.

27 May 09 - 09:00 AM (#2641862)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

?!?!?!?

People have said much the same thing in past years, and I still do not get it. Yes, it's GREAT when one has a team in the hunt, but even when we don't, hockey's still the most entertaining off-work interest, at our house.

If for no other reason that that half the players on other teams will eventually end up on ours, and that till they do it's good to know what kind of sh*t they can pull when they play us next year. The Tour de France is like that too-- the peloton is the peloton, regardless of which team jerseys a guy happens to be wearing at any one point in time.

~S~

27 May 09 - 09:06 AM (#2641870)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

I'd agree with the below (they agree with me), but I'd add "we made a better coaching change" as I said upthread.

~S~

Five Reasons the Pens are Headed Back to the Final
Shawn P. Roarke | NHL.com Senior Writer
May 26, 2009, 10:17 PM EDT

RALEIGH, N.C. -- There are a number of reasons why the Pittsburgh Penguins virtually lapped a very good -- and very game -- Carolina Hurricanes team in a stunning four-game ouster in what many expected to be a much more evenly balanced Eastern Conference Finals.

But here are the five most telling reasons why the Penguins are making plans to face either the Detroit Red Wings or the Chicago Blackhawks -- Detroit leads the Western Conference Finals 3-1 -- in the Stanley Cup Final.

Experience -- Losing to Detroit in the Stanley Cup Final last June was painful but necessary. It is a rite of passage most teams must go through before they are worthy of being called champions. The lessons learned in falling just short of your lifelong dream -- particularly on the mental side of the ledger -- are invaluable the next time around. All of Pittsburgh's key players -- Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, goalie Marc-Andre Fleury -- lived through the tempest of last year's Final, a six-game defeat to an experienced Detroit club, and came out the other side with a lot more mental toughness.

Health -- Pittsburgh had few injury worries in the Eastern Conference Finals. Yes, Sergei Gonchar hurt his knee in the previous round, but he was able to play in every game of the Eastern Conference Finals, getting better with each contest. How hurt could a player who saw close to 20 minutes a game really be? Carolina, meanwhile, saw Tuomo Ruutu and Erik Cole get injured in Game 1 and never fully recover. Plus, there were rather loud whispers that goalie Cam Ward was playing with an unannounced injury. Grueling seven-game series against New Jersey and Boston in the previous two rounds seemed to empty Carolina's tank before Round 3 even got under way.

Depth -- Because they dressed a seventh defenseman, the Penguins dressed just 11 forwards in each game. But that alignment allowed Pittsburgh coach Dan Bylsma to construct a stunning fourth line, which featured Miroslav Satan and veteran Craig Adams flanking Crosby, Malkin or Jordan Staal. Needless to say, such a luxury proved very hard for Carolina coach Paul Maurice and his players to handle when it came to game planning and matchups on the ice. But it wasn't just a revamped fourth line. Malkin leads the League in playoff points, yet he is only the second-line center behind Crosby, who's tops in goals.

Defense -- This isn't usually the first word that pops into the old cranium when you think about the run-and-gun Penguins, but Pittsburgh's defense might have been more important in this series than its top line. Eric Staal is Carolina's main threat and had earned the respect of everyone for almost singlehandedly dismantling the Devils and the Bruins. But he never got on track in the conference finals. Staal had one measly assist through three games and was minus-6 (he did score in Game 4). So how did Pittsburgh hold down the same Staal who had put up 9 goals and 13 points in Carolina's first 14 games? It boiled down to a steady dose of defensemen Hal Gill and Rob Scuderi hopping over the boards every time Staal stepped on the ice. Oh yeah, Eric Staal also saw a fair amount of Pittsburgh's Jordan Staal, the Penguins' checking-line center and Eric's younger brother.

Star Power -- Nobody in the East could deny this Pittsburgh team if it got A-plus games out of its two superstars -- Crosby and Malkin -- and that's exactly what the two stars brought to the plate in the Eastern Conference Finals. Malkin was otherworldly, scoring 6 goals in the first three games -- including a dynamic Game 2 hat trick that turned the tide of that back-and-forth game permanently in Pittsburgh's favor. Crosby was all over the ice, contributing in every zone. Yet his production -- 2 goals and 3 assists in the first three games, plus a backbreaking assist in the second period of Game 4 -- was considered merely pedestrian when compared to Malkin's. By the same token, Carolina's top line didn't manage five points for the entire series. Yes, Pittsburgh's victory was the proverbial 20-man effort, but there was no denying that Crosby and Malkin were in the vanguard of the march to the Stanley Cup Final.

27 May 09 - 10:31 AM (#2641909)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor

Bye Canes.

Go Pens!

27 May 09 - 04:11 PM (#2642147)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Well, the road to the Stanley Cup still goes right through Detroit. The boys may lose tonight but they will not lose the series being up now by 3-1; they will, therefore, play the Pens again this year for the final - and it should be great.

I have to believe that folks are simply tired of the Red Wings like baseball fans who don't like the Yankees and are tired of them, too.

I honestly feel, however, that the Wings are simply the best team in the NHL and should win the cup again this year. Heck, I'm expecting them to win it next year, too - I really think they're that good.
Nuts I am? Maybe, but I will write that there is not another team in the NHL that can lose (arguably) it's top two players and remain so strong that they can come out and win a road game 6-1, such as was played the other night in the conference finals - amazing, simply amazing.

Nuff said; there's a game in a few hours that includes pizza and beer down here in Hockeytown South - wish ya'all could join us. The winged-wheel needs to move with all deliberate speed tonight in order to wrap this thing up and prepare for the Pens. GO RED WINGS!
Cheers,...............mwh

27 May 09 - 04:22 PM (#2642161)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Best of luck to Wings and fans. DANG, if I was REALLY a pal we'd order pizza tonight..... hm, must talk to Hardi.

~Susan

27 May 09 - 04:38 PM (#2642171)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Don't forget to order "Little Cesar's" Susan.
I agree Michael, the Wings are more than just good. They are great and not just three lines but all four. And the line up for next year will have them right in the thick of things as well. Their rookies look great and will soon have to be filling in some big shoes.
Go Wings.
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27 May 09 - 06:56 PM (#2642296)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

LOL, we are 32-57 miles from any "nearby" Little Caesar's.

Do they have Chicago style pizza? :~)

~S~

27 May 09 - 10:50 PM (#2642403)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Bobad, I know it hurts when your team loses or are not in the playoffs. I, and my Wing partners have been there. Especially through the Ned Harkness years. But tell me, who did you cheer for before the Ottawa Senators came into play? And I can't believe your statement, "Here's hoping the run for the cup will provide a little more excitement". I'm sure you don't believe what you just posted. The best hockey last year was the playoff final. The best I have ever witnessed. The speed, precession passing and the Wings winning was great as well. But you know what? If Pittsburgh had won I would have felt a little bad but not to much. The reason is because even though I love my Wings, I also love the play of other teams. As an example, I'm very happy that Detroit won tonight. That is not to say that they were the better team but it was a great game no matter who won. I also believe that the two best teams in the NHL this year have made it to the cup. The only disappointment I have is that of Carolina. Not that they should have won against Pits., but they should not have won against Boston. That in my opinion was the only upset in this year's playoffs.
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27 May 09 - 10:56 PM (#2642404)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Adrien, LOL-- I agree!

Congratulations Wings fans and welcome to the most entertaining hockey you will have seen in some time.

~Susan

27 May 09 - 11:09 PM (#2642413)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: maire-aine

Obviously, I'm thrilled that "my" Wings won tonight (Go Wings!). But, if not the Wings, I'd have thrown my support to Pittsburgh. After all, the Steelers are my football team, at least until the Lions win me back after their 16-0 season. (My dad was from western PA.)

Maryanne

27 May 09 - 11:57 PM (#2642434)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison

Here we go folks - strap 'em on! Yes, that was a good game tonight and either team COULD have won - surely, we are thrilled down here in Hockeytown South. Being "old school," if the Wings were not in the hunt I would throw my octopus onto the rink of an "Original Six"
team; after that, it would be a team with one or more players that I like, or a team with some former Golden Domers on it.

This Chicago series was nice because I don't "hate" them and there is such a long history between the two teams. In fact, Kane's goal, as much as I didn't like it, was an excellent shot; I could never say anything like that about a shot off one of the Ducks sticks.

So, Saturday it is. Cheers, everyone, and,...GO RED WINGS!.....mwh

28 May 09 - 08:16 AM (#2642662)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: bobad

I'm looking forward to a more competitive series than the blowouts that were the finals. The Cup series starts this Saturday, much better than the June 5 start date that was originally scheduled.

28 May 09 - 01:50 PM (#2642904)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Well, I just hope that the chippy shit takes a back seat to what these teams are capable of. However, I am not naive enough to think that if the score is two or more apart in the middle of the third that the orders won't come down to "get chippy with it." Big money yells loudly.

GO PENGWINGS!

Of course, like Beer, I wanna see good skating and stick handling. I really don't have a dog in this fight, but, I gotta cheer for the Pens on accounta that there Crosby fellah comes from a small coastal hamlet a few hours drive from me.

28 May 09 - 03:51 PM (#2642992)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Thanks, gnu, I felt so alone! :~)

~S~

28 May 09 - 04:53 PM (#2643034)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs

I'm thinking that defence vs offence is going to be the deciding factor in the final. I know that sounds like an oxymoron, but it could be like the Oilers of the 80's who didn't care if you scored 6 goals, because they'd score 7. Which brings us to the Crosby-Malkin factor. Aside from their skills, the one thing that I've really noticed is their willingness to take it as well as give it during this years playoffs. Detroit is going to have their hands full and maybe their net at well. I predict a long series with Pitt taking it in...............6 games!

28 May 09 - 04:59 PM (#2643043)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

If ya wanted foam in the Beer, ya coulda said 5... er 4... hehehehe.

29 May 09 - 06:53 PM (#2643906)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

NO POSTS in 24 hours?!?!?!? What kinda hockey fans ARE you people!

GO PENS!

The talk at brekky with some strangers (fellow Pen-fans) was, Pens in 6 or Wings in 7. If it goes to 7 the Wings will nab it. Dunno why this feels right but it does.

~S~

29 May 09 - 10:24 PM (#2643994)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Very dedicated but sometimes folks do other things.
I have been entertaining guest that put on one of the best concerts I have ever witnessed. I'm still flying high. Hopefully i can send some of it to the Wings.
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29 May 09 - 10:28 PM (#2643995)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Seeing as there is no money involved, and to upset a few folks, Wings in 4.
It is possible but highly unlikely.
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29 May 09 - 11:06 PM (#2644006)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Best of luck. :~)

~S~

30 May 09 - 10:11 AM (#2644162)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

Please continue in PART TWO.



Thank you for your cooperation,

~S~

30 May 09 - 12:29 PM (#2644221)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

But, in future, when someone searches the threads, there may be confusion. Why do we need two threads when one will do?

Any Canucks notice the price of potatoe chips, nachos, salsa and such has been knocked down? I was at two grocery stores today.... every second cart was rife with snacks and pop and ice and such.

30 May 09 - 01:58 PM (#2644267)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor

When I came to the USA Wal-Mart Brand (Great Value) Frozen concentrated Orange juice was 82 cents a container. Yesterday it was 1.72. Chips, Corn chips and salsa hasn't really changed, in spite of increases in the per bushel price of corn.

30 May 09 - 06:49 PM (#2644474)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Now if they would only drop the beer prices. Bought a six pack and it cost $13.01
Bunch of rip off's.
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30 May 09 - 07:22 PM (#2644487)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: bobad

You must be drinking some premium beer there Ad.

30 May 09 - 07:45 PM (#2644500)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

No Bobad, that was for 6 Bud at the local corner store. Of course I get 60 cents back on the empties. So I guess you could say it cost $12.41
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30 May 09 - 08:07 PM (#2644523)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Da da da da dahhhhh dadda!!!!!!

Have fun.

31 May 09 - 07:35 PM (#2645223)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu

Ditto.... I expect a Winger of a game again tonight.

31 May 09 - 11:24 PM (#2645296)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer

Just got in from playing a little music Gnu. I heard that it was a great game by the Wing goalie. Up two and still calling a 4-0 win for the Wings. Call me nuts but I like what i see and they are not at their top as yet. Injuries still on the team. Paval will be back and will give the Wings an even more advantage.
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31 May 09 - 11:32 PM (#2645300)
Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg

gnu, would you please let this thread drop off the daylist. It's too long to load for me, and Joe can always combine them LATER.

~S~