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19 Mar 09 - 04:46 AM (#2592377) Subject: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: GUEST,Jackiefas Hi I am trying to find either mandolin or guitar tab or music score for the tune L'inconnu de limoise. Would be really grateful for any help. Thank you for reading this Jackie |
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19 Mar 09 - 08:36 AM (#2592490) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Marje If you search for "inconnu" in the site below you'll find it in various versions. Choose midi or pdf, and just keep clicking yes until it appears. It's not a pretty site, but a very useful one, and always the first place I look for a tune. http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind Marje |
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19 Mar 09 - 09:58 AM (#2592553) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Sandy Mc Lean My niece owned a racehorse called L'inconnu which I believe means the stranger. No tune though, sorry. |
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19 Mar 09 - 03:36 PM (#2592819) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Artful Codger More precisely, "the unknown", here meaning "the unidentified"; one would more likely say "l'étranger" for "the stranger" (i.e., not from these parts). |
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19 Mar 09 - 04:16 PM (#2592845) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Jack Campin Not a very intrinsically exciting tune, is it? Who's managed to make it into something worth hearing? |
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21 Mar 09 - 01:31 PM (#2594068) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Marje I learned it at a festival workshop with a band (I think it was the Cock and Bull band but I could be wrong). We all just loved the tune and enjoyed playing it. It's a mazurka, not a waltz, and is best played at a fairly brisk speed, not drippily like some waltzes. Apart from that, what can I say? You either like a tune or you don't. I think the second half of it in particular has something very alluring about the melody. But it obviously doesn't appeal to you the same way. As I understand it, the tune is supposed to have been written to commemorate the discovery of a very old grave containing, along with the body, a set of pipes. They couldn't identify the body so they called this unknown piper -and the tune - "L'inconnu". This may of course be a "folk myth" or complete rubbish, I don't know. Marje |
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21 Mar 09 - 01:57 PM (#2594076) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: GUEST,Jackiefas Hi Thanks Marje, that is just brilliant. I think it is a lovely tune when played properly, we have 2 ladies who do it on whistles and another lady who plays accordian brilliantly. Thank you so much for your help also for the background info. LOL |
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21 Mar 09 - 02:12 PM (#2594083) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Monique Here is a page about the song and the author with the basic tune sheet music. He tells the story " Some years ago, an employee of Limoise town (Allier, in the Massif Central) was busy to move sepultures and found a body buried with a bagpipe by his side. It's hard for me to tell how many thoughts and emotions it caused in my head. This tune was composed at that moment with the deliberate intention to make people weep in major (major mode)." |
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21 Mar 09 - 02:17 PM (#2594085) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Stewart HERE it is at thesession.org. I think it's a nice little tune. Several versions including one in a minor key are given. And this about it's title: "The name has a story behind it, as you might guess (although I'm hazy on the details). When they were doing some roadworks, or demolition, or moving a graveyard, or something like that in Limoise they came across a grave containing both a skeleton and the remains of a set of pipes. The grave was un-named, so the identity of the piper was unknown, but the story caught the imagination of the French folk world and M Heintzen penned the tune in the piper's honour. There are apparently (french) words to it somewhere out there. Incidentally, there is no truth in the rumour that the piper was found staked through the heart with his chanter. This would be entirely unnecessary as all that is required to stop a piper rising again is to cut off their head and stuff their bellows with garlic..." Interesting, whether you believe it or not. Cheers, S. in Seattle |
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21 Mar 09 - 07:24 PM (#2594246) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Jack Campin This version sorta works: Sirio Restani though I prefer the other two tunes in his set. (I love the way he's framed that video - look round his head!) |
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23 Mar 09 - 09:34 AM (#2595268) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Marje That's exactly the sort of punchy, rhythmic playing that I meant, Jack, rather than a dozy waltz-style. ALthough I have to add that I'd prefer different chords: in the first 4 bars of the B-part (given that he's playing the melodeon in C major, a mean Continental trick), I'd prefer F/Em/Am/G. and yes, the halo-effect is superb! Marje |
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06 Nov 09 - 07:00 AM (#2760705) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Jack Campin Here's an ABC of what was published at the diatojo site with Heintzen's permission - it's a bit different from the version at "thesession". I've reorganized the anacruses for clarity.
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06 Nov 09 - 07:20 AM (#2760715) Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament From: Mr Happy Jack C & Stewart, Thanks for your contributions. They've given a much better interpretation of the tune than the unpromising first impression from JC's Tunefinder [which is a good site I frequently use, but some've the mechanically produced arrangements are sometimes abit iffy!] |