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Lyr Add: Wolfe (Ashley Hutchings)

27 Jun 02 - 03:12 PM (#738396)
Subject: Info on Albion Band - General Wolfe
From: GUEST,Eric [Guest]

I remember this from an Albion Band album on vinyl which my cousin had. I would like to get hold of some information on it - lyrics, chords, the name of the album would be useful [I have a lousy memory - maybe that is not the title of the song but it is about Wolfe]- I assume it is not available as a cd as I have looked in all the Albion Band sections that I can. The song started with a quotation which I think was from Gray's Elegy in a country churchyard and the tune may be similar to Stan Roger's Northwest Passage. Any assistance gratefully appreciated.

Eric [I have always been Eric the Viking but I think you already have a permanent member here with that moniker so I better not use it].


27 Jun 02 - 03:21 PM (#738403)
Subject: Lyr Add: WOLFE (Ashley Hutchings)
From: GUEST

WOLFE
Ashley Hutchings

Spoken:
The boast of heraldry, the pomp of power
And all that beauty, all that wealth e'er gave
Awaits alike for the inevitable hour.
The paths of glory but lead to the grave.

Sung:
The fleet was a floating forest
Spread before me on the Thames
And Greenwich bells saluted all her proud departing sons.
I stood upon the hillside with my spyglass misted o'er
And I turned to make my way to home once more.

Chorus:
Oh to cross the line
And defy the tide forever.
To take the paths of happiness
And walk away the pain.
If for one last time
You could hold these hands together
Content to scale the heights of home again.

It's hard to lose your loved one
To a nation's grateful heart
For now you are a sweetheart and you never more to part.
Your virtue she may trade on and your life's loss she may be
But she'll not hold you half any more than I.

Last night I dreamed you lay with me
Your head upon my breast;
You had not thought of trading me for glory in the west.
The park was then our Eden and the stars a guileless game
We charted them until the comet came.

This land may want you for a hero she can call her very own
To glory of in ballads and do honour to in stone.
But I have no need of gratitude and grace and nothing more
I want my love beside me as before.

Source: The Albion Band, Light Shining


28 Jun 02 - 03:41 AM (#738712)
Subject: RE: Info on Albion Band - General Wolfe
From: Skipper Jack

'The spoken verse comes from Thomas Grey's "Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard". The poem was one of two gifts from his lady, Kathleen Lowther prior to his sailing to Canada. She also presented him with a miniature portrait of herself. The song is a lament seen through the eyes of Kathleen Lowther.'

These notes were taken from the sleeve notes on the Albion Band's recording "Light Shining"


28 Jun 02 - 01:20 PM (#738944)
Subject: RE: Info on Albion Band - General Wolfe
From: Anglo

Strangely enough this came out very soon after Stan Rogers "Northwest Passage" (see the first post above). Stan had sung me his song soon after he had written it, and I remember listening to the Albion Band doing Wolfe at the Bracknell Festival, not too long after Stan had died. I was practically knocked over by the similarity, both tune and text motifs. I believe Hutchings later called it just one of those coincidences, great minds sometimes follow the same paths or some such rubbish, but he claimed never to have heard Stan's song.


16 Apr 09 - 06:26 PM (#2612736)
Subject: Lyr Add: WOLFE (Ashley Hutchings)
From: GUEST,Marie O'Connell

WOLFE
(Lyrics by Ashley Hutchings)

The boast of heraldry the pomp of power
And all that beauty and all that wealth ere gave
Awaits alike the inevitable hour the paths of glory lead but to the graveā€¦..
Thomas Gray's Elegy Written On a Country Church Yard

The fleet was a floating forest spread before me on the Thames
And Greenwich bells saluted all her fine departing sons
I stood upon the hillside, my spyglass misted ore and I
Turned to make my way to home once more

Chorus
Oh to cross the line and defy the time forever
To take the path of happiness and walk away the pain
If for one last time you could hold these hands together
Content to scale the heights of home again

It's hard to lose your loved one to a nation's grateful heart
For now you are her sweetheart and you never more shall part
Your virtue she may trade on and your likeness she may buy
But she'll not hold you any more than I

Chorus

Last night I dreamt you lay with me with your head upon my breast
You had no thought of trading me for glory in the west
The park was then our Eden and the stars our guileless game
We charted them until the comet came

Chorus

This land may want you for a hero
She can call her very own
To glory you in battle and to honor you in stone
I have no need of gratitude and praise and nothing more
I want my love beside me as before

Chorus


16 Apr 09 - 08:09 PM (#2612791)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: Keith A of Hertford

Thanks Marie.
Wolfe lived in Greenwich and is buried there.
Greenwich is known for the observatory (reference to stars) and for the famous meridian line (to cross the line).
The heights of home is a reference to the Heights of Abraham,the scene of his vicory at Quebec where he was killed.
keith.


16 Apr 09 - 08:12 PM (#2612794)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: Keith A of Hertford

and...
Greenwich observatory was charged with giving accurate time,
and Haley's comet made its return in the year of Wolfe's victory and death.


16 Apr 09 - 08:22 PM (#2612799)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: Barbara

I can't immediately tell from the text whether the quatrain " the boast of heraldry..." or further down "Oh to cross the line.." is the chorus. Also where is this heard and is there a way to get the tune posted?
Thanks
Blessings,
Barbara


16 Apr 09 - 08:30 PM (#2612804)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: michaelr

Some background info and a first name, please?


16 Apr 09 - 08:31 PM (#2612805)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: Keith A of Hertford

Chorus,
Oh to cross the line....


16 Apr 09 - 08:33 PM (#2612808)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: Keith A of Hertford

General James Wolfe


16 Apr 09 - 09:21 PM (#2612820)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

GUEST,Marie O'Connell

Thank you for some VERY interesting lyrics. I like them.

If you would be so kind? PLEASE post the source. Your connection to them and your interest in them would also be interesting.

They changed my historical perspective:

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

I had a twisted of the Canadian French and "retributions" given an American view of some Mudcaters that reaches to such extremes (not mine) that "all bones are sacred and Geronimo cursed the Bush presidency."

For the longest time (35 years) I was under the impression that I had seen Wolf's skull (for an admission price 2.00 Canadian) in a macbre convent attic in Quebec. Thanks to the miracle of Yahoo .... today... I discovered that it is "General Montcalm, the French military officer of the Seven Years' War." It is housed with several alters and hundred of bone relics and miscellania in the Chapelle des Ursulines founded in 1639, the first school for girls in North America. It was mearly under seige by Wolfe in 1759 - and hence - perhaps - my confusion.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


16 Apr 09 - 09:38 PM (#2612832)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: Sandy Mc Lean

Wolfe


16 Apr 09 - 11:32 PM (#2612874)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe
From: Bert

There is a statue of him at Westerham in Kent, his birthplace.


17 Apr 09 - 04:12 AM (#2612936)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe (Ashley Hutchings)
From: Keith A of Hertford

Search the DT for Wolfe.
lots of songs.


17 Apr 09 - 04:40 AM (#2612948)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Wolfe (Ashley Hutchings)
From: GUEST,baz parkes

From a mid (?) 80s Albion incarnation....Light Shining. Vocals by Cathy Le Surf ex Fiddler's Dram/Oyster Ceilidh Band

Why can I never remember anything useful...

Baz