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BS: Issues or problems ???

25 Apr 09 - 08:30 AM (#2618433)
Subject: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs

Politicians seem to spend their time "addressing issues", but do they actually solve any problems - in particular the current bunch of wankers in the UK government


25 Apr 09 - 09:13 AM (#2618445)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: number 6

we live in an age were we "address the issues" but never go beyond that ..... no one is brave enough to take ownership I guess.

biLL


25 Apr 09 - 09:14 AM (#2618447)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: number 6

I should also add ... to lazy to take ownership.

biLL


25 Apr 09 - 09:36 AM (#2618460)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs

I don't have any "issues" - hideous word, I only have answers to problems!


25 Apr 09 - 10:48 AM (#2618487)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Mrrzy

If you don't address them, they tend to go astray... or come back to haunt you!


25 Apr 09 - 02:25 PM (#2618612)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: McGrath of Harlow

The point of addressing an issue is to identify any problems connected with it, and determine how to go about solving them.


25 Apr 09 - 02:28 PM (#2618614)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Little Hawk

Their objective, Bonzo, is to create an impression of doing one thing while generally accomplishing another entirely...


25 Apr 09 - 03:25 PM (#2618644)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Liz the Squeak

Identification is not resolution, but sometimes, people actually need to be told there is a problem.

Many middle management have gaily gone about their lives ordering this that and the other change to the working practice of a department, only to have it all come back to bite them because they simply did not see the problem.

Here's a for instance.

An office that already has more work than it can cope with, and no chance of overtime or extra staff, inherits the work of 3 similar offices which are closing down. There are no extra staff available for 5 months, during which the office experiences its two busiest times of the year. And the manager wonders why that office is now 6 months behind on its work. Apparently, 3 times the work but no extra staff or hours is not a problem to the manager. The manager looks good on paper because they did what their superiors wanted, not what was best for the department.

LTS


25 Apr 09 - 03:28 PM (#2618647)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs

My point actually is ludicrous use of the word "issues", pronounced ishoos by some and isssssssssssssssssssssssssyouuuuuuuuuuuuuuus by others - they know who they are!!!......when what they actually mean is "PROBLEMS".


25 Apr 09 - 04:46 PM (#2618695)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: McGrath of Harlow

Bless you...


26 Apr 09 - 04:06 AM (#2618893)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Neil D

Dare I try another blue clicky. Here are a couple earnest folk singers singing about Issues.


26 Apr 09 - 05:48 AM (#2618919)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: VirginiaTam

Problem is a negative word which might be offensive (Middle East "problem" depending on who uses the term offends someone) and implies responsibility for a solution. When you factor in accountability, no one wants to be responsible.

For me, instead of 'problem' or 'issue' I like the word 'challenge'. Something to sink my teeth into and really work at sorting out without putting negative connotations on it.


26 Apr 09 - 06:24 AM (#2618925)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: bubblyrat

I would say that the Morons running this run-down,bankrupt,socially divided,over-populated,immoral,drug-infested rat-hole are very "Challenged" indeed.But I live in hope of better times !!


26 Apr 09 - 09:18 AM (#2618957)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Lox

What about the issue of identifying the problem?


26 Apr 09 - 09:18 AM (#2618958)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Lox

... or the problem of how to resolve the issues ...


26 Apr 09 - 09:52 AM (#2618968)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs

"Problem is a negative word which might be offensive"

What absolute rubbish. Nobody is offended - only people who get offended on behalf of others, the usual lefty cranks.


26 Apr 09 - 10:58 AM (#2618994)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Amos

Both words describe some collision in points of view; but a lot of problems are not issues in the traditional sense of the word. A lot of problems are not even opportunities! They're just problems.

Having a hole in your shoe making your foot freeze is a problem. Being asked to do a paper-delivery route in that shoe might be an issue.

A


26 Apr 09 - 12:37 PM (#2619057)
Subject: RE: BS: Issues or problems ???
From: Bonzo3legs

No, issue is a contrived word that suits the media. An issue is an edition of a magazine, an edition of a book.