BS: What Meds Do You Take?

16 May 09 - 03:50 PM (#2633491)
Subject: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: catspaw49

This kinda' came up on another thread and it reminded me of the old days when we were getting to know each other and ran a ton of this type of thread which culminated with Art Thieme (as a joke because he was disgusted) asking what condoms Mudcatters used.....It of course became a Mudcat Classic.

Here I'm just curious as a lot of us have had health problems or age problems or both!!! LOL............Don't get uptight and you don't have to play.....this is just for fun. You don't have to name them unless you want to and simply the number of prescription meds will do.

In my case, I don't care so I'll go first. I take 9 different prescription meds daily and some twice a day. Here's the list:

Nexium Caps 40MG (x2)
Lovastatin Tabs 40MG
Digoxin Tabs 0.125MG
Spironolactone Tabs (Aldactone) 25MG
Furosemide Tabs (Lasix) 40MG (x2)
Enalapril Mal Tabs (Vasotech) 20MG (x2)
Carvedilol Tabs (Coreg) 25MG (x2)
Potassium Chlor Er Tabs 20MEQ (x2)

Spaw.......Barely living through Chemistry

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16 May 09 - 03:54 PM (#2633492)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: heric

I wish I could imitate his voice but my old neighbor was hobbling over to his ride and bitching at me that "I goota go to the doctor just so he can give me meds just so I can go to the doctor again to get more meds."

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16 May 09 - 04:07 PM (#2633501)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Janie

Well, there are the medications I take, vs. the medications I'm supposed to take. I"m not supposed to take a whole slew, and would be in big trouble if I was, because I have a hard time making myself take medications on a regular basis, have problems with side effects and a lousy insurance plan with a $5000 deductible that makes me reluctant to go back to the good doctor when I have trouble tolerating side effects.

I'm supposed to take lovastatin 20 mg. qd
Aspirin 81 mg. qd
Zolpidem 10mg qhs prn
sertraline 50 mg qd
1500 mg. calcium citrate with magnesium qd.
Ibuprofen, 800mg, bid
glucosamine sulfate

The only pharmacoligical agents I seem to be sure to get into my body everyday are nicotine, caffeine, and vino.

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16 May 09 - 04:09 PM (#2633502)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Janie

Ain't nuttin' wrong with me that being 17 years younger wouldn't cure.

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16 May 09 - 04:45 PM (#2633529)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Richard Bridge

The only one I could not do without is Diprosalic ointment. It wouldn't kill me to be without it, but I might...

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16 May 09 - 08:21 PM (#2633604)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Ebbie

Good grief. We appear to be lucky that we have you here at all.

I am 73. Medications I take? None.

(Oh, I'm smarmy, me.)

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16 May 09 - 08:26 PM (#2633610)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Joe Offer

I'm trying to find out where to sign up for medical marijuana. Sounds like fun - although I still haven't gotten up the nerve to try marijuana in any iteration.
It's been eight years since I had a security clearance, so I don't need to worry any more about losing it.
-Joe-

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16 May 09 - 08:41 PM (#2633618)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

At 72, I do not take any pharmaceuticals but I do take a number of supplements- type, brand and dose as determined by my trusty pendulum. I do not ask the pendulum about chocolate, which this woman runs on! I have been environmentally poisoned and detox frequently. I was recently termed "hyperactive" by a couple HS students who were helping me move.

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16 May 09 - 10:34 PM (#2633634)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: RangerSteve

Glyburide, Actos, Nephrocaps, Renegel, Plavix, I don't remember the rest, they're on the other side of the house and I'm too lazy to go look. The problems they cure are high blood sugar, cholesterol, and kidney related problems.

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17 May 09 - 02:57 AM (#2633684)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Liz the Squeak

Gin counts doesn't it?

I'm experiencing a prescription drug free period again, having just finished amoxycillin for a chest infection and nurofen for the pulled muscle... been without the fluoxetine (the other name for Prozac) for some time now, which is a two edged sword... it means I'm not depressed but it also means I'm going to be at some point.

Nothing wrong with me that being 4" taller and 10 years younger might cure, except that 10 years ago I didn't know about the dicky ticker that got fixed 5 years ago.

LTS

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17 May 09 - 03:08 AM (#2633689)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dave Hanson

Medicinal whisky, red wine and Taylors Landlord, several times daily,
they don't cure anything but you don't care.

Dave H

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17 May 09 - 04:09 AM (#2633703)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Shimrod

I find that long walks, plenty of contact with the natural world and as much sunshine as it is possible to encounter here in Manchester, UK are quite effective forms of medication.

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17 May 09 - 05:14 AM (#2633728)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Neil D

Enalapril 20mg
Simvastatin 20mg
Oxycontin 40mg 2xday
Percocet as needed
Plus
Prilosec
1 baby aspirin
Iron 325mg with Vitamin C 3xday
1 multivitamin

I think thats all...it's kinda fuzzy...

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17 May 09 - 05:19 AM (#2633730)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Neil D

From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 16 May 09 - 08:26 PM

I'm trying to find out where to sign up for medical marijuana. Sounds like fun - although I still haven't gotten up the nerve to try marijuana in any iteration.


C'mon Joe. You live in California doncha? If not there then where?
Courtesy of Ron White: If the Doctor asks what condition you have that marijuana can treat, tell him that running out of marijuana
really bums you out.

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17 May 09 - 07:08 AM (#2633774)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: wysiwyg

Hm, it's the least I've taken in a longlonglong time. The industrial-sized pill-sorter, I've recently been thinking, looks so funny with only 4 little pills in it. 'Course that's the MAIN one. There are several others with "might-needs."

Gotta:
Diovan
Toprol
Norvasc
(generics thereof)

Might:
Tylenol
Diphenhydramine
Lomotil
Ultracet
Diuretic


Then there are the topicals as needed:
Witch hazel (swimmer's ear)
Cipro Otic (ditto)
Saline (nasal wash, eye wash)
Various anti-itchers


The big 90-day supplies live together against damp in a storage-size super-heavy Ziploc bag, from which I refill the sorters as needed.

~S~

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17 May 09 - 07:42 AM (#2633792)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Terry McDonald

None whatsoever - at 69 I'm still instinctively against them.

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17 May 09 - 08:32 AM (#2633811)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Lizzie Cornish 1

Seth Lakeman
Bruce Murdoch
Show of Hands
Ron Bankley
The Oysterband
Kate Rusby
Reg Meuross
Dougie Maclean
Paul Sachs
Dan O'Connell
Harry Chapin
Eddie Reid
Noah Zacharin
Noa Bursie
Martyn Joseph
The Beatles
Al Green
George Benson
The Bee Gees
Earth Wind and Fire
The Imagined Village
The Afro Celts
Salsa Celtica
....
...
..
.

ad infinitums....

.....at least four times a day before, after and during meals.

;0)

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17 May 09 - 10:20 AM (#2633866)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Ed T

A minimum daily dose of Synthroid (levothyroxine) for a slightly underactive thyroid gland.

Maxalt once and awhile in the winter, to abort occasional migraines (I dont enjoy the aura, except when doing abstract paintings:).

Occasionally (mostly winter) hydrocortisone cream for a few dry skin areas.

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17 May 09 - 10:41 AM (#2633875)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

Lizzies got it! Music is the great healer. Laughter, too. Norman Cousins used the latter to great effect. A drip feed of good music beats all. Mudoch's "old" music is still stuck in my CD player - two weeks of music therapy everywhere I go!

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17 May 09 - 11:26 AM (#2633893)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: VirginiaTam

Mudcat with breakfast weekdays
Mudcat after dinner weekdays
Mudcat all frigging weekend long. It is as good as any excuse to get out of ironing, for which I will need meds.

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17 May 09 - 11:27 AM (#2633894)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: VirginiaTam

Oh

I should said


Medcat

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17 May 09 - 11:34 AM (#2633900)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Only an occasional mead! ;-)>

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17 May 09 - 12:33 PM (#2633933)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

OK, everyone understands the typo, right? MURDOCH. But like many meds, it could be addictive.

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17 May 09 - 01:02 PM (#2633947)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Stilly River Sage

Some of these lists are pretty $cary for a number of reasons.

None I absolutely have to take. Two to keep my bones healthy (along with calcium rich foods and exercise) are HRT and calcium. Because I lost the H through surgery about 10 years ago.

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17 May 09 - 01:09 PM (#2633954)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Mrrzy

effexor (an antidepressant) and seroquel (an anti-psychotic to keep from going manic on the antidepressants), daily. Occasional aspirin. Frequent THC. Alcohol probably somewhere between the latter two. Annual, roughly, psilocybin (sp?). I used to take Darvon for migraine-ish headaches but nobody likes to prescribe it anymore.

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17 May 09 - 07:42 PM (#2634250)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,jeddy

i'm only 30 and i don't want to get any older coz by the sounds of it i'm screwed. i'm on antidepressants coz if not i can't stop crying being a folkie is a dangerous buisiness!

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17 May 09 - 08:06 PM (#2634269)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: pdq

A couple of cups of Yuban in the morning. Never after 2:00 in the afternoon (house rule).

After 6:00 (house rule): Coors on an "as needed" basis.

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17 May 09 - 08:17 PM (#2634283)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Bobert

THC and Viagra!!!

Get 'er done!!!

B;~)

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17 May 09 - 08:22 PM (#2634289)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Mallee

The Medicine man

I am not here to be laughed at chaffed at or any other at
iam here to sell my wares. Garanteeeed to cure coughs, colds, scabby holes, pimples on your bum, rum tum, scalp scum. PRICE one penny

What about Lily The Pinks medicinal compound.

Yes Folks There's a cure for you. I personally stick with pints of lunatic soup.

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17 May 09 - 08:45 PM (#2634303)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Janie

Right now, I need something for a sore throat.

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17 May 09 - 08:49 PM (#2634306)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: katlaughing

Medcat

I vote that the best newly coined word on Mudcat in a long time. I LIKE it Tam!

Spaw, I have resisted the listing, it just seems too personal, but then I thought total strangers know when get a prescription filled or, heaven forbid, I wind up in the ER, so...naw...still feels too personal, not gonna do it.:-)

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17 May 09 - 08:50 PM (#2634307)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Bobert

Hot toddie, Janie...

Take you 'bout 3 ounces of yer best Western Carolina shine and a cup of lemonaide and I'll double-damned-guarentee that in 30 minutes you'll not only have no sore throat but that you might be able to typo and speel like me...

B~

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17 May 09 - 08:53 PM (#2634311)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Janie

All I got on hand is a cheap cabernet. I'll let you know shortly if it works.

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17 May 09 - 09:00 PM (#2634318)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Joe_F

If by a med you mean something recommended by a doctor, then 1 aspirin a day, because I had a couple of TIAs (I think they're called) a few years ago.

I have some Viagra, in case I meet someone who wants to get fucked.

Also I put some antibiotic in my ears every morning, to forestall lowgrade infections, and some antipruritic (but I scratch them anyway). And lotion on my fingers & feet.

The only psychotropic drugs I use are caffeine in the morning & alcohol in the evening. They happen to be legal & available without prescription. I suppose that won't last forever, but neither will I.

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17 May 09 - 09:02 PM (#2634320)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

Meds?

None. I don't believe in taking meds.

I do take various vitamins and dietary supplements, though: Vitamin D, Magnesium Citramate, an anti-oxident, cod liver oil, stuff like that.

What most people need to have and maintain good health (in my opinion) is a complete diet, NOT overeating, getting enough excercise, sunlight, and fresh air, and drinking enough clean water. It also helps to have friends and activities that one finds interesting and enjoyable, of course. Having a Dachshund can help too...but it's a double-edged sword, because the little rascal can cause you a bit of stress now and then... ;-)

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17 May 09 - 09:16 PM (#2634327)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Ebbie

Oh, yes, I do take vitamins and a couple of minerals.

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17 May 09 - 09:18 PM (#2634328)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Janie

LH,

You know I like and respect you and agree with you on many things. But it always bothers me when some one patly says "I don't believe in taking meds." Besides, the last time I took a Dachshund, all that dog hair got caught in my throat and nearly choked me to death.

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17 May 09 - 09:38 PM (#2634343)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: open mike

they're trying to kill me off with daily doses of rat poison..
warfarin/coumadin...i had a pulmonary embolism (blood clot in lung)a
couple of years back so now i do this blood thinner...to prevent clots
and i also all Co Q 10 cuz i heard it helps with circulation

(The name warfarin stems from the acronym WARF,
for Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation}

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17 May 09 - 09:38 PM (#2634344)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

Regarding the Dachshund...you probably didn't take him in the recommended manner, Janie.... ;-D

Hey, look, just because I don't believe in taking meds, I'm not saying that belief has to apply to anyone else. We all have the right to our own belief systems.

I might have qualified it this way: I will take pharmaceuticals IF I can find no other way of dealing effectively with a health problem I have. Otherwise, I prefer other methods. I did take pharmaceuticals once, for example, to cure a mild eye infection, and I have taken aspirin on occasion to get rid of a headache.

It's just that in general...I tend to opt for other methods first rather than reaching for a drug of some kind...specially on a regular basis over a lengthy period of time. I do not in general tend to trust the overall effects of pharmaceuticals on bodily health.

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18 May 09 - 04:19 AM (#2634492)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: mouldy

I don't like taking meds either, but unfortunately the high blood pressure and non-stop acid reflux has put me on ramipril and bendroflumethiazide, and lanzoprazole. I'm up for a meds review in the next month, and I'll fight tooth and nail if he tries to put me on any more. Going onto daily meds about 5 years ago was the first sign of the onset of late middle age for me - my mum did too, and for the same reasons.

The BP is a bit higher than they would like, but it's up and down all the time anyway. I am sure it's nothing that losing a bit more weight, being more active, getting the house fixed up, sold, and moving to pastures new won't solve. Until then I just put up with the frustrations and angst that recent widowhood, and a house renovation that seems to have stalled have foisted on me!

It don't help when you have a pharmacist for a daughter, either!

Andrea

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18 May 09 - 04:25 AM (#2634499)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Catherine Jayne

Symbicort
Salbutamol (in inhaler and nebulizer)
Metformin
Prednisolone.

I take vit c in the morning too.

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18 May 09 - 04:54 AM (#2634515)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Bryn Pugh

Like Mouldy (supra), I, too, am on ramipril and lanzaprozole. I,m also on Amlodipline 10 mg for the BP.

I'm on Tramadol 400mg and Naproxen 400mg for the arthritis - years of Morris dancing has left my kees buggered.

Add a one gram dose of vitamin C, a goodly dose of Vitamin B complex (for the nerves, dear) and a multivitamin and mineral tablet - belt, braces and baler twine ? Oh, and let's not forget the cod liver oil

capsule.

This is nothing as compared with the meds. my beloved Erica is on.

Apart from the above, large doese of caffeine at regular intervals.

Sad, ain't it, when one's "drug of choice" is a Strepsil.

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18 May 09 - 05:25 AM (#2634530)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Jack Campin

Woke up this morning, got those red skin blotches blues
I said I woke up this morning, got those auto-immunity blues
Slap on clobetasol, read the Mudcat in the nude...

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18 May 09 - 06:05 AM (#2634551)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Liz the Squeak

So Janie - would that make it a medicine cabernet?




























I'll get me white coat...

LTS

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18 May 09 - 06:17 AM (#2634557)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dave Hanson

It made no difference what this thread was about, it was another opportunity fir Lizzie Dripping, oops sorry, Cornish to mention SOH.

Dave H

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18 May 09 - 09:15 AM (#2634675)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Wesley S

One med I'm NOT taking anymore is insulin. If you lose 40 pounds like I did you get to give up something.

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18 May 09 - 09:19 AM (#2634677)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Gervase

Blimey - there'll be no missing the mudgather at the next festival I go to; I'll be able to hear them all rattling!

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18 May 09 - 01:05 PM (#2634865)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

LH: I'm with you!
I use Paud'Arco for infections, including this tooth that "needed a root canal" two years ago.
I used to get terrible weather induced headaches but not since I started drinking GREEN tea. Black tea gives me a migraine.
I detox to keep the environmental chemicals from building up in my bod; if they do, I get tired first and almost a couch potato next. I prefer being hyperactive.
Used Glucosamine to heal the "shin splints" resulting from 11 hours of Bulgarian dancing and a couple months later a sore knee from another 11 hours of Bulgarian dancing. MAGIC! Yeah - the dancing! Also the Glucosamine - but I did not mess with "recommended dose"; I took what the pendulum said to take - lots! And now down to none and the knee is fine.

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18 May 09 - 01:56 PM (#2634917)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

Excellent! What is "Paud'Arco"?

I've been getting good results from Oil of Oregano. Powerful stuff.

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18 May 09 - 03:35 PM (#2635026)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Maryrrf

The occasional Tylenol (or generic equivalent) for aches and pains, and plenty of caffeine.

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18 May 09 - 04:25 PM (#2635107)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

Oil of oregano is good too.
Pau d'Arco is a S. A. herb - antibiotic and anti tumor, etc. Cured a friend's step throat, her Dad's infection which the "antibiotic" did not, etc. (He is employed by a major pharmaceutical company but now reaches for the P d"A first.) I've been using it for about four years - instead of pharmaceuticals which might prevent cancer but might cause......

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18 May 09 - 05:15 PM (#2635151)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: VirginiaTam

I'll be able to hear them all rattling!

I like it! The shaky egg medicine dispenser. That's what I call efficient.

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18 May 09 - 05:40 PM (#2635182)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: bobad

I find it odd that some posters eschew pharmaceuticals which have been proven effective for the conditions for which they are prescribed, yet use vitamins and other concoctions, most of which have been proven to be ineffective, except to the bottom lines of their promoters.

Faith sure works in mysterious ways.

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18 May 09 - 05:58 PM (#2635195)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Sorcha

I can't belive that you are all posting this very private information! I have NO plans to! Sheesh! Talk about dragging the bottom for subject matter!

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18 May 09 - 06:09 PM (#2635204)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Ed T

Sorcha, Strictly a personal choice...depending on ones sensitivity. I see little harm. Would share similar information with co-workers, neighbours, or friends. If you have been on Mudplace for awhile, you likely read similar, or even more personal information than in this thread (I know I have). I suspect pen names make it less personal. Wow, no one even mentioned a purple pill yet, though they are likely out there somewhere in Mudville:)

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18 May 09 - 06:12 PM (#2635206)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Sorcha

Yea, sure, it's ALL 'personal' but still.....

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18 May 09 - 06:53 PM (#2635230)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

Yes, bobad, it is odd how faith works. I generally have faith in things which have been proven by my own direct experience or that of someone I know well enough to find trustworthy.

I do not necessarily have faith in the propaganda dispensed by giant money-making organizations and corporations who pay for ads on TV, though, because I think their motives can be considered questionable.

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18 May 09 - 06:59 PM (#2635238)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: jeddy

isn't this bsically what we do at festivals with complete strangers anyway? don't be shy we all have stuff go wrong with us. it's not personal, it's biology. i hope we all survive the night!

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18 May 09 - 07:29 PM (#2635256)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: bobad

"I do not necessarily have faith in the propaganda dispensed by giant money-making organizations and corporations who pay for ads on TV"

This statement betrays a lack of knowledge of the process involved in getting drugs out on the market, but then that's why there is no shortage of snake oil peddlers out there getting rich off the public's ignorance.

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18 May 09 - 08:39 PM (#2635295)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

LH: again we are on the same page. I have something akin to contempt for most of mainstream medicine and pharmaceuticals. Work with seniors who take one med for A and two more to counter the effects of the first one and maybe a couple more to.....
Other than the so called "anti cancer" drugs which might cause.....- even worse thing (I quit that when I read the info) I have not had a pharmaceutical in about 20 years. But I LISTEN to my bod and even my physician in PA did not doubt me. He gave an excellent lecture on reasons for the high costs of (alleged) health care and how the pharmaceutical companies screw the public. He wished, out loud, for my energy - he is 11 years younger.

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18 May 09 - 09:07 PM (#2635314)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: bobad

With all due respect to Dorothy and Little Hawk I think you are both confusing the marketing practices of "Big Pharma" with the efficacy of modern pharmaceuticals. The advancement of therapeutic agents in recent years has been nothing short of remarkable and many millions, if not billions, of people are enjoying a quality of life that was unavailable to them just a few years ago. It is research scientists who do the heavy lifting in the field, the pharmaceutical companies are the agents for the product, much like agents who manage and exploit musicians, and like them should all be put up against a wall and shot.

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18 May 09 - 10:46 PM (#2635363)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

I agree with you, bobad, it is the pharmaceutical companies who are the main problem.

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18 May 09 - 10:54 PM (#2635368)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,hg

that isn't gargoyle, my friends. As a long time gargoyle watcher, I say IMPOSTER!

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19 May 09 - 09:52 AM (#2635686)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Zen

I find 100mg quitsquitin complex helps with the BS attacks.

Zen

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19 May 09 - 10:24 AM (#2635702)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

The marketing practices of the pharmaceuticals are costly - they cost the consumer. The efficacy is in serious doubt. What do they actually cure? Think about it. Then, really think about it.

The humungous costs of "health" care could be reduced to broken bones and the very few curable illnesses. If the money were spent on cleaning up the environment and teaching people preventive self care, we would still have money left over.

When the nurse practitioner at the cancer clinic responded to my query, "why the increasing incidence of breast cancer" with and immediate, "it's the environment", I started looking at that concept. Sure enough, there is ever increasing evidence.

Money spent on pharmaceuticals when the environment is the cause....

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19 May 09 - 10:39 AM (#2635711)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

It's the lazy and stupid approach to dealing with public health. Let them live a bad lifestyle...let them get fat, lazy, unhealthy, and sick. Then rush in with the medical fire brigage of drugs, surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy...AFTER the damage has been done.

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19 May 09 - 11:08 AM (#2635734)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: pdq

" Let them live a bad lifestyle...let them get fat, lazy, unhealthy, and sick..."

What it really comes down to is this: you can't make people do anything they don't want to do. If you accept that fact, you may live a happier life.

Everything wrong with people is from environmental pollution?

No, the food we eat is safer now than it ever has been. In the past, food spoiled because of poor refrigeration. Until the 1930s we still had ice boxes in cities and damp canvass boxes in the rural areas.

Water? In years gone by, wells were unfiltered and people got whatever amount of lead, arsenic and other minerals that happened to be dissolved in the water. Also no cholorination to kill microbes.

Air pollution? Maybe, but it is not responsible for all of man's ills. Besides, people out here in the rural boonies have exactly the same problems and ailment as everyone else.

Now is a great time to live except for one problem: people. There are too many people and too many of them are violent and antisocial.

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19 May 09 - 11:32 AM (#2635758)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GREEN WELLIES

Dont ask me the names but:

morning - 1 white and two pink
teatime - two pink
bedtime - two pink two blue

The consultant said last week I have a choice, stay on them and stay healthy (and I feel better at the moment than I have done in years) or, as the 'problem' seems to be going shall 'we'(I had no idea he was taking them too!) come off them and 'see how we go?'.

As much as I like to feel well, I dont like the idea of filling my body with chemicals that I may not need. But the other side of the coin is being chemical free but the possible return to pain, hospital visits, proding and poking.

I didnt believe in taking meds - until there was no choice.

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19 May 09 - 11:36 AM (#2635764)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Becca72

Depo-Provera (as I am still of child-bearing age)

Calcium and Vitamin D to counteract the side effects of Depo-Provera

Albuterol (though when I went to refill my scrip the last time I was told they have taken Albuterol off the market because the propellant is "bad for the environment". Been breathing the shit in since I was about 4, thanksverymuch!)

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19 May 09 - 12:12 PM (#2635800)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

It's quite true, pdq, that "you can't make people do anything they don't want to do".

Agreed! I am not suggesting making people do anything (except obey the civil laws).

But what I am suggesting is a society and a medical fraternity that would spend a lot more effort in advising people as to what they might do to be healthy....and would provide more incentives and facilities for them to do what is healthy...and would educate them better in that respect...and would provide far better leadership and far better role models for them to aspire to in that respect.

I am suggesting the encouragement of people, not control or regimentation of people.

The present social order actively encourages people to overeat, to eat junk food, to drink soft drinks, to sit on their asses all day long, to indulge themselves in every way possible...and why?

So some business can make money on their physical and behavioural addictions, that's why.

Well, that's what happens in a decadent society, isn't it? And things deteriorate.

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You are quite right about the overpopulation problem. Again, what is needed to deal with that is better education, a better standard of living and education for the poor (it is the poorest and most ignorant people in a society who always have the highest birthrate), better role models for the young.

If you demonstrate high ideals and self-discipline in front of young children, they will understand and respond in kind. If you demonstrate greed, irresponsibility, carelessness, violence, and waste in front of young children, they will imitate it and they will get lost in it.

As you say, "now is a great time to live". Agreed. There have been many advances. However, there is much we can do to continue improving certain things in society. I'm not suggesting turning the clock back to 1900. That just isn't possible.

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19 May 09 - 03:44 PM (#2635966)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Donuel

Whats up with all these drugs that say a side effect is suicide?

Just who were these class of drugs designed for, DARPA, the Pentagon, the Defense Department?

If screwing with people's serotonin is so dangerous they should try a different approach.

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19 May 09 - 04:14 PM (#2636006)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: katlaughing

GREEN WELLIES, I agree...until there was no alternative but dying, I loathed putting any kind of chemical in my body, though I did have to cope with a heart valve which was either broken from birth or injured by a childhood illness. Those one or two drugs kept me alive while technology grew by leaps and bounds and I was able to get a new valve.

Now, I take drugs to be sure I stay as healthy as possible. I KNOW that sounds like anathema to some. Back when I was writing my op/ed column I wrote a humdinger against letting drug companies advertise (they were not allowed to at the time, remember those days?)...it didn't do any good...they were given the green light and that, to me, is a horrible disservice to all of us.

I used to be like Dorothy and Little Hawk, all natural tinctures, teas, etc. Now I have to be much more careful about what goes in the mix. I am thinking about getting back to making my own kombucha tea and maybe trying some glucosamine.

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19 May 09 - 04:40 PM (#2636020)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

Well, if you find that you HAVE to take some drug(s) to avoid illness or death, then of course you do. And so would I.

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19 May 09 - 07:56 PM (#2636146)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: dick greenhaus

In the interest of conserving bandwidth, I decline to be specific.

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19 May 09 - 08:09 PM (#2636154)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Peace

I love Sara Lee.

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19 May 09 - 08:46 PM (#2636168)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

LH and I are still on the same page.
Since being environmentally poisoned almost ten years ago - walking up one flight of stairs which had just been carpeted; yep, that's all. I almost passed out; I turned white, so I'm told. four and a half years later, I got my health back, by de-toxing. The doctors at occupational health did not have a clue, nor did any other doctors I tried. Staff member at the EPA said, "If you can find help, let me know, my wife has the same problem.

I have read voraciously on the subject. Believe what you like guys. The doctors were hard put to find a cause for my breast cancer (all gone now) due to my life-long healthy life style (I was indignant!); how bout living 17 years in an area of high radiation from uranium mines? Highest incidence of cancer in Canada. OR the study by the U of Texas showing that wherever there is a high level of mercury in the environment, there is a high incidence of autism.

Talk to me about glucosamine, kat. It does me a world of good when I need it.

But every body is different. I know a 90 year old in incredible health who all but lives on sugar and has all her life. No diabetes. She LOVES Sara Lee! Half a piece of her birthday cake and I was stuffing potato chips in me to counteract the sugar.

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19 May 09 - 09:06 PM (#2636186)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Mallee

Try googling Utilitairian Bioethics
Were all safe knowing our health and longevity are in safe hands TRUST ME, NOT. Take a stand NOW

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20 May 09 - 05:41 PM (#2636959)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz

Hi Kids: So I ask my Doctor(s), "Do I really have to take these?, they're expensive...) Response..."If you don't take these, you will die..." Heartwarming(pardon the pun)

So...
Apo-Carvedilol(25mg)
Apo-Furosemide(40mg)
Coumadin(4mg)
Lanoxin(0.25mg)
Zestril(10mg)
Euro-K(1500mg)
Advair 125 2 puffs per day

This has been going on for nearly a year, but as we say over here, "every day above grass is a good day..." I go back for a check-up and my Doctor(s) tell me, "I'm doing fine"
Q.Well then, how long do I have to keep taking these?
A."Until you die"

Doc says, "see, it's like this, after going through what YOU went through, we find that
1 in 3 die if they don't take the Meds. And if you TAKE the Meds, it's 1 in 20,,,"Yikki Yikki Yay!

So it's "The Breakfast of Champions" for me...Coffee, doughnut, Meds...

Q. Or, As Myron Cohen(I think) said when asked, "How's the job!?
A. "It's a living. If you call this living..."

Now, where's my water so my little pill can make me pee....?
Sorta like having a car, to get to the job, to pay for the car, but what the hey,

Is everybody having a good time?
Can I get a HELL YEAH?

bob

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20 May 09 - 05:46 PM (#2636962)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Jeri

So you're not gonna die?

Ever?

Me, I got stuff for my stomach and stuff for cholesterol and a bunch of other stuff that won't kill me if I don't take it but may make life very unpleasant.

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20 May 09 - 05:56 PM (#2636976)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz

As Jack Benny once said when asked at gunpoint..."Your money or your life?!
A. "I'm THINKING, I'm THINKING..."

Jeri, you wanna go for me and tell me how it is?
bob :<)

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20 May 09 - 06:03 PM (#2636984)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz

And when I do go, just wait til I meet God and show HER my list of "life improvements" and how SHE could have set up life much better for everybody, just wait...
bob

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20 May 09 - 07:06 PM (#2637035)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: bobad

Hey Bob, I'm glad you're taking those meds......DON"T STOP!

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20 May 09 - 07:09 PM (#2637037)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

Geez, 40 years and Bob finally made me laugh! (dorothy from the yellow door, Bob) I know what your problem is! You never ate the good food I served?!!!! (I wouldn't even eat that stuff now.)

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20 May 09 - 09:00 PM (#2637126)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz

Gee Dorothy, great to hear from you(and bobad).

All I remember was that you could make a sandwich for $.15. Slice of ham $.5, slice of
bread, $.5 , and slice of cheese, $.5. A meal fit for a Folksinger! And the coffee for sure.

Good to know I make women laugh. I think...
bob

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20 May 09 - 09:07 PM (#2637130)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Peace

That's when they see you naked, Bob.

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20 May 09 - 09:16 PM (#2637137)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz

Peace: Dare you trifle with me on nudity? A man, who once had a ladyfriend over, and bet her
I would "run around the the house naked"? Then, removing my clothes and revealing my then AWESOME physique, MASSIVE pecs, glutes that could crack walnuts...

Then, went outside, and ran around the house, nikkid...

HA!

Dorothy: My MySpace FYI...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46552921

Life. Live it or die(or something like that)
bob

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20 May 09 - 09:30 PM (#2637146)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Little Hawk

Hey, Bob, I just listened to your song "The Ghost of Elvis" on your site...good stuff! Very cool.

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20 May 09 - 10:34 PM (#2637174)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz

Thanks for the kind words Little Hawk...bob

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20 May 09 - 11:15 PM (#2637191)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: katlaughing

Bob, HELL YEAH!!**bg**

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21 May 09 - 02:13 AM (#2637245)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Barry Finn

Who'd want to know what meds I take & why?

I take so many that there's not enough room here to list them. They don't do much for me except that without them I die, slowly, maybe I'd last out the month but I wouldn't look good. It'd be a closed casket.

I don't do recreactional drinking or drugs, don't think I don't want to. Reading this thread makes me think I should & that I'm missing out on a big secret. Reading this thread through is like being on drugs

I will never be drug free but I wasn't as a teenager either so I'm still a kid at heart

Barry

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21 May 09 - 02:14 AM (#2637246)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Peace

Well said, Barry.

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21 May 09 - 10:35 AM (#2637621)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

Life is for LIVING and love is for giving, and... forgiving.

Gargoyle: love your herbs, I do a few myself. But where do drugs come from - ??? lots come from herbs so maybe we are not drug-free! And St. John's Wort works better than or as well as any pharmaceutical anti-depressant, according to a friend who tried everything. Have you tried Pau d'Arco?

Bob: you can find me on myspace via our mutual friend(s). I see you everywhere! URLs are beyond me. I figured you have enough friends!

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21 May 09 - 11:32 AM (#2637679)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz

Dorothy, please friend me on MySpace. I'll try to find you but I don't know what name you're under, or which mutual friends you are referring to. The Yellow Door has been a big part of my life. One can never have too many friends...Bless...bob

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21 May 09 - 11:36 AM (#2637683)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: bobad

Bob, Dorothy's MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/447956642

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21 May 09 - 11:40 AM (#2637684)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz

Thanks bobad, I just found her minutes ago, and then saw your post. She has my friend request...bob

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21 May 09 - 11:52 AM (#2637691)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: GUEST,hg

garg, some people think being disease free is from having a pure spirit and that all disease is spirit malaise...

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21 May 09 - 12:54 PM (#2637736)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

Well, no doubt a pure spirit helps and there is clear evidence of it in all types of health care. Darn! that means I'll be stuck here forever! ???? I'll just have to try harder....

Bob: such a to do! It's OK guys. Now we are friends! Thanks, bobad.

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21 May 09 - 09:45 PM (#2638149)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Rowan

In Oz, Meds is a brand of tampons. Being a bloke, I haven't seen the need to take any.

Yet.

Cheers, Rowan

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21 May 09 - 11:29 PM (#2638195)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: katlaughing

I've now got four very vigorous yarrow plants which have been growing for the past five years. Last year, two of them grew to over six feet tall. The other two are doing much better this year than ever before and are already three feet with many buds. In New England, a friend and I went out on St. John's Day to gather St. John's Wort. Put it up in olive oil which it made a beautiful ruby red. Very strong aroma...very good for bruises and such.

Dorothy, you've sparked some memories...I used motherwort, hawthorn berry, and dandelion root tinctures for menopausal symptoms. It got to where I craved the tiny sip of pure water with a few drops of each in it...definitely good for my body at the time.:-)

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22 May 09 - 01:23 AM (#2638223)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Peace

BUT,

You say neither and I say neither
You say either and I say either
You say potato and I say potato

Garg, it simply doesn't work without that fancy scrolling you do.

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22 May 09 - 11:49 AM (#2638578)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: katlaughing

greg, you may heel but I heal...oh, and I got tomatoes coming outta my ears, already so....give it a rest!

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22 May 09 - 12:19 PM (#2638595)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Dorothy Parshall

I totally avoid "arthritis" by low acid diet. Tomatoes, garg, are fruit/high acid. Love your tomatoes as long as thou canst. May be there was a good reason why I never could eat them?

kat: I'll have to pass that along to my younger friends. I used B6 and E to get through that. And for varicose veins - no problem since '77 and they were very bad.

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22 May 09 - 01:46 PM (#2638657)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: topical tom

Enough to keep me alive but not enough (or the right sort) to get me high ...I don't think...Oh yeah, one of them is alcohol!

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23 May 09 - 12:30 AM (#2639045)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: dick greenhaus

Of course, the medication that will insure logevity is low-dose aspirin.
Take one a day for 105 years, and you'll live to a ripe old age.

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23 May 09 - 05:43 PM (#2639548)
Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take?
From: Bonzo3legs

What side effects have been experienced by "statins"? I understand that GPs in the UK receive government payments for prescribing these.

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