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BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter

22 Jul 09 - 10:56 AM (#2685277)
Subject: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: 3refs

A retired US Lt Col Peters has more than hinted that this young man did not just "walk away". I find his comments a little more than disturbing. His interview is on Fox.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3073144/fox_news_ralph_peters_suggests_taliban_should_kill_us_soldier/


22 Jul 09 - 11:03 AM (#2685281)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Peace

Maybe that's why he retired as a Lt Col.


22 Jul 09 - 12:46 PM (#2685357)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: meself

Boy, he sounds real mad!

Now, let me get this straight - this young man made a cool, rational decision to "desert" in the middle of Afghanistan, and to offer his services to the Taliban ... hmmm ...


22 Jul 09 - 12:51 PM (#2685359)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Peace

Ever read Heller's "Catch 22"?


22 Jul 09 - 02:11 PM (#2685409)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Stringsinger

The current Administration has built up an enemy posing. The Taliban is the new boogeyman. Actually, they are not as prevalent in Afghanistan as they are in Pakistan,
supported by the former Mushariff. Reagan originally made deals with them. The US
supported them against the Russians in their attempt to subdue Afghanistan. Does this pattern sound familiar?

The Afghan Occupation is a wasteful exercise in futility. It will become Obama's "war"
as Vietnam was L.B.J's.

There is no constructive outcome to the US incursion in Afghanistan or Pakistan.
There is no cohesive workable plan to help the citizens of either of those countries
being offered by the Administration.

I don't know anyone in their right mind who would participate in this conflict militarily.


22 Jul 09 - 02:16 PM (#2685413)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: katlaughing

Funny, the folks who know the young man don't haev any doubts about him: click


22 Jul 09 - 02:39 PM (#2685424)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Bill D

Whether or not that soldier has any problems...(and we don't KNOW that)... that Lt.Col. should have his lips super-glued together.

What a stupid way to respond to a bad situation.


22 Jul 09 - 03:59 PM (#2685460)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Mrrzy

I wondered, myself... it would be a symptom of sanity.


23 Jul 09 - 08:30 AM (#2685904)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: 3refs

I like to think I haven't in the past, but I would never suggest that anyone was a traitor, deserter or collaborator if I didn't know for sure! Once you put a thought like that in the peoples minds, it never really goes away!


23 Jul 09 - 10:32 AM (#2686000)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: frogprince

An odd situation, in that I have a rare degree of sympathy for a Fox news person. It appeared that she was blindsided by his comments, and really tried to distance herself and do some damage control.


23 Jul 09 - 11:03 AM (#2686020)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: meself

She was in an unenviable, "no-win" situation - she clearly did want "to distance herself and do some damage control", but if that became obvious to their guest "military analyst", it might well provoke him to say something even worse. I would like to have been a fly on the wall during the next commercial break.


23 Jul 09 - 12:46 PM (#2686079)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: olddude

and Fox New actually paid that asshole?
yahhhh ... ok ... and he rose to the rank of LT. Col

we are in deep crap if guys like him are leading our young men and women

I have no idea if the soldier deserted or not but it sure sounds like Rambo there already made up his mind. If he did desert then the law will handle it but those comments ... from someone who once held that rank ... good gosh where is me shovel, gonna dig me a shelter


23 Jul 09 - 02:03 PM (#2686142)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: meself

Of course, his retirement may have come after some very strong "encouragement". In fact, following his example in regard to the circumstances of the Taliban's taking of the soldier, we should feel free to speculate as to the circumstances of Lt Col. Peters' retirement - or was that "firing"?. Who's first?


23 Jul 09 - 02:10 PM (#2686148)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Peace

Gotta love that Pox News.


23 Jul 09 - 02:25 PM (#2686167)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Ebbie

Military man, Novelist, Controversial Figure

An interesting man- I suspect he would be a bad neighbor to have.


23 Jul 09 - 03:57 PM (#2686263)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: olddude

Please don't advise him to move in next to Bobart, Bobster has enough wack job neighbors LOL


23 Jul 09 - 07:36 PM (#2686408)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Rapparee

My respect for Fox News has just reached negative numbers.


23 Jul 09 - 08:03 PM (#2686436)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: McGrath of Harlow

It would appear that on his entire military service Peters as never in any kind of combat.


23 Jul 09 - 08:35 PM (#2686458)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: meself

Maybe that's why he seems to be looking for a fight ...


23 Jul 09 - 08:45 PM (#2686462)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Amergin

Maybe he has a book coming out and wanted some notoriety....


23 Jul 09 - 08:58 PM (#2686468)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: kendall

I read somewhere or saw on TV that more soldiers have deserted than have been killed in Iraq. They come home on leave and refuse to go back.
Remember that old question, What if they had a war and no body came?


23 Jul 09 - 10:57 PM (#2686512)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Sandy Mc Lean

I find it scary that the US army would promote such an idiotic arsehole as Lt Col Peters to any position of authority. How many more of his ilk are out there, I wonder? Thank God he is no longer in uniform! As for Fox News, it seems that in Lt Col Peters they have exeeded right wing criteria of facist drivel!
It's hard to soar like an eagle when you fly in a flock of turkeys!


25 Jul 09 - 04:44 PM (#2687030)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: GUEST,seth in Olympia

If my five -great grandfather hadn't run away from the wars in Scotland, and my wife's two great hadn't decided that there were other things to do besides being drafted for twenty year hitch in the Czar's army. neither of us would be here today. It's always better to live and have grandchildren than to be ground to dust in the army of the Czar, King, Supreme Leader, President, in my humble opinion.
seth (VietNam Era Vet)


25 Jul 09 - 05:05 PM (#2687050)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: McGrath of Harlow

Of course in many cases our parents would never have met if hadn't been because they got involved in fighting in some war. Goes both ways.


25 Jul 09 - 09:35 PM (#2687209)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: Peace

There are many excellent military people in all armed forces--good thinkers, scholars, etc. THIS guy oughta have a principle named after him.


25 Jul 09 - 10:13 PM (#2687227)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: meself

(Good one! I think he does ... ).


26 Jul 09 - 02:43 PM (#2687468)
Subject: RE: BS: Suggestion that US soldier deserter
From: McGrath of Harlow

The Peter Principle wasn't called after this gentleman, but it seems to be pretty appropriate:

"In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence."