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BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/

15 Jul 99 - 04:26 PM (#95546)
Subject: BS-What was your high (or equivalent) school
From: katlaughing

Well, 'Spaw & Gitarzan are exchanging graduation dates and high school names, so I thought, wow another totally BS thread! Actually I thought it might be fun to find out if anyone went to the same ones.

For all not living in the US: I apologise for not knowing the proper terms for what schools you graduate from, before going off to the equivalent of our colleges. Usually one finishes with H.S., here, around the age of 18/19.

Now, that said, I will post my high school, Grand Junction Senior High, Grand Junction, Colorado BUT, while my class graduated in 1971, I dropped out, had my son in '70 and got the highest score ever seen at Mesa College, on a General Equivalency Degree (GED) the following year.

For others who might have also dropped out....it doesn't matter, just post whatever school you went to when you were trying to be a young hoodlum like me or Rick! (Love ya anyway, Rick:-)

HAVE FUN! Anybody from Colorado?

katlaughing


15 Jul 99 - 04:34 PM (#95550)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: DougR

Katlaughing:

I'll bet no Mudcatters graduated from Clifton High School, Clifton, Texas in 1947! I did.

DougR


15 Jul 99 - 04:37 PM (#95551)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Richard Bridge

Wahroonga prep, New South Wales, Australia/

Alcuin House school, Stanmore, Middx, England/

Orley Farm school, Harrow-on-the-Hill, England/

Aldenham School, Herts, England/

Nottingham University (Engineering)/

Nottingham University (Law).


15 Jul 99 - 04:39 PM (#95552)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Joe Offer

Gee, Doug, you may be older than Sandy Paton - which is about the same as saying you're older than dirt, I think (Sandy's gonna have something to say about that).

I graduated in 1966 from De Sales Preparatory Seminary (High School) in Milwaukee, and then spent four more years in the seminary before I discovered the opposite sex and figured out I wasn't destined to be a Catholic priest.
Say, Kat, I'm kinda sweet on you. Wanna wear my high school hair shirt?
-Joe Offer-


15 Jul 99 - 04:48 PM (#95553)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Wotcha

Richard:

I went to Orley Farm (67-73)!! When were you there? I then went to Blundells in Devon, thence to ... OKLAHOMA STATE and there started my decline...

Alhamdalla! Cheers, Brian


15 Jul 99 - 04:51 PM (#95555)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: katlaughing

Depends, Joe. Does it have a letter or pin of any kind?**BG** Oh, and is it well-groomed?? Shedding?


15 Jul 99 - 05:14 PM (#95560)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Allan C.

George Mason Jr/Sr HS, Falls Church, VA; Escola Americana do Rio de Janeiro; Piedmont H.S., Piedmont, CA; Annandale High, Annandale, VA (where I graduated in '65) My class was the first in the area to have its baccalaureate ceremony at the National Cathedral and its graduation ceremony at Constitution Hall in Washington, D.C. - I went to a lot of high schools and these don't even include the ones where I did summer school.


15 Jul 99 - 05:51 PM (#95566)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Fadac

I got a good 8th grade education in only 12 years, graduating from Port Angeles Senior High School, in 1968. Then FADAC computer school in the USARMY in 1969. (basic + school = 9.5 months) Got piss poor grades in HS. Was in top 20% of FADAC school. But we had a bit of attrition. My class started at about 60. Half way the remains of our class was joined with another...we graduated 12. (I was the only one without at least two years of collage. Not bad eh?) I think we had a higher drop out rate than the helecopter pilots. My last rating in the Army said that there were less than ten of us left in the whole US Army in 1974. The rest is self training.


15 Jul 99 - 06:23 PM (#95574)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Indy Lass

I went to East Lansing High School in E. Lansing, MI. Graduated in 1974. Then Michigan State Univ (Geography/Cartography). Then got married. Then grad school at University of Waterloo, Ont., Canada (Environmental Science).


15 Jul 99 - 08:12 PM (#95618)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Duane D.

Ridge HS, Basking Ridge, NJ 1969 (the *good* year). Gee, Joe, is that akin to wearing a sign on your back that says, "KICK ME" ?????


15 Jul 99 - 08:29 PM (#95621)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Joe Offer

"Kick me" for what, Duane? I'm hoping Sandy will be proud of the "older than dirt" crack, and I'm proud of the 8 years of seminary education and I had a great time there. And I lied about the hairshirt - I've never even seen one.
Also lied when I said I graduated in 1970, so I corrected that.
-Joe Offer-


15 Jul 99 - 09:43 PM (#95640)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: MAG (inactive)

Hope there aren't any Mormons on the list, because they actually DO the hair shirt thing as part of their coming of age rite of passage. Thomas a Becket got sainted because of his.

Oh, oh yes, High School. Penns Grove High, NJ, 1962 -66.


15 Jul 99 - 11:31 PM (#95672)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Pelrad

Ha, you are all older than dirt from my point of view. :-)

North Kingstown High School (RI) 1988, and University of Rhode Island 1994


15 Jul 99 - 11:37 PM (#95675)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Susan A-R

Randolph Union High School, Randolph VT. 1976. I believe that was the class portrayed in the film Dazed and Confused. We were, but it was fun. Then on to the College of Wooster in Wooster Ohio, then, after a pause, a Masters at Boston College. (Highly irrelevently educated chef.)

Susan


15 Jul 99 - 11:43 PM (#95678)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Duane D.

Pelrad, You young whippersnapper, you!!!


15 Jul 99 - 11:50 PM (#95684)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Paul Jay

After many trials with stupid, bigoted, racist &#@%'s, I graduated from Central High School,Little Rock, Arkansas in 1962, and NO I didn't know Bill. Kansas City Art Institute 1967 US Navy 1969 Ohio University 1970 Cheers Paul


16 Jul 99 - 12:39 AM (#95704)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: gargoyle

If your son was concieved in the backseat of a Chevy Malibu....I think I may know his father....


16 Jul 99 - 01:30 AM (#95718)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: WyoWoman

Lindsay High School, Lindsay,Okla., Class of 1966 (ok, not as old as dirt, but certainly up there with a couple of clods...) University of Okla. dropout in the late '60s. Southwestern State College (Okla.) dropout, early '70s

College of Santa Fe, film dept., B.A. 1994 (magna cum laude -- ta DA!!!)

One semester of graduate school in the classics program at St. John's College in Santa Fe, N.M. (until I ran out of $$$ and had to drop out. I'd love to go back and finish that program....)

WW


16 Jul 99 - 01:37 AM (#95719)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: McMusic

Would've graduated from Greenwich (Conn.) HS, Class of '69, but I did the "smart" thing--quit and joined the Marines! From there to Southeast Asia in '71. GOD! Now, wasn't that good thinking on my part? GED 1970. Then on to bigger and better things.


16 Jul 99 - 02:17 AM (#95734)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Banjoman_CO

I graduated from Weatherford High School(Weatherford, Okla)in 1956. Then went on to Southwestern State in Weatherford. I graduated in 1959(summer school and nights got me through in 3 years). I went to Okla. City and started teaching band and choir. I did that for 25 years and then went to Seminary for 3 years. Say, Wyowoman and I from the same college, how about that!! You still remember our college song, Wyowoman????

Fred


16 Jul 99 - 03:20 AM (#95745)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Llanfair

Ok, now comes the British equivalent Northenden Primary School, '53-59, Poundswick Grammar School, '59-'66 Liverpool college of Occupational Therapy '67-70. Failed the course, worked with people with learning disabilities, qualified in 85, now a part-time Social Worker and getting a life!!!!


16 Jul 99 - 04:13 AM (#95763)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: katlaughing

Yea! Good for you, LLANFAIR! Go for it, WW! We only drove FORDS! Pelrad, I was kicking up some dust in those parts about the time you were in HS & college. Used to go to Providence a lot from Mystic, CT. In '88, I produced a concert of my brother performing his classical music at the Music Mansion at Brown. Loved going over to Watch Hill.

katlaughing


16 Jul 99 - 05:31 AM (#95788)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Banjer

Dixie M. Hollins Senior High School, St. Petersburg, Fl Class of 1967


16 Jul 99 - 06:59 AM (#95803)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

Another UK one (source of endless amusement)

Ysgol Gynradd Sirol Cwmafan 1973-79
Dyffryn Comprehensive School 1979-86
Loughborough University 1986-91


16 Jul 99 - 07:53 AM (#95813)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Rita64

Mr Offer, I always suspected you were a holy Joe. Hee hee ... my sense of humour is deteriorating.


16 Jul 99 - 08:26 AM (#95818)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: bbc

Needham High School, Needham, Massachusetts, 1971 Bridgewater State College, Bridgewater, Massachusetts (near Cape Cod), Major in English (British Lit.), 1975 University of Maryland, College Park, Maryland, Masters in Library/Information Science, 1981

Did you notice that many of us one-upped the subject to college level? Is that to add information or because we're show-offs?

bbc


16 Jul 99 - 09:23 AM (#95828)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: catspaw49

Reynoldsburg High School, Reynoldsburg, Ohio--'67
Berea College, Berea, Kentucky -- '71 and a half
(Took some time off to serve Uncle Sam at the Federal facility in Petersburg)

Gotta' DeeGree in Philosophisin' which I proudly present to the folks at McDonald's where they give me a cup of coffee for only 89 cents!!! Say what Cletus? That's the RETAIL PRICE? Oh, I see...........Okay then, let's cut this sucker up and use it for asswipes.

**** ++++ **** ++++ **** ++++

Somehow Joe, excuse me...MR. OFFER {gettin' old,huh!?!?), I can see you as a priest.....You could have some virtual prayer beads with a Pentium III Rosary. Sure.... And you'd be a hoot in the confessional!!! The guy confesses and in less than 2 minutes gets a printout of 3 Blue Clicky Things for websites to access to repent.

And a few others:

Susan---You went to Wooster? About half of us natives of course say it to rhyme with rooster. As a matter of fact, my Old Man would say, EVERYDAMN time the name came up, "Be a Booster and Write to that Rooster in Wooster." I never had a clue as to what he was talking about, but then I don't think he did either. To my chagrin, the name came up a lot since I grew up just south of Canton. Both of my parents had somewhat bizarre senses of humor. Ah yes, the true horrors of genetics...or is it environment?

General Banj, you Incredible Dumbass---How can you leave us hanging like that.....Okay, I'll bite.....Who in the hell is Dixie Collins?

catspaw


16 Jul 99 - 09:26 AM (#95829)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Vixen

Cool Thread!

I think the college level thing is because we are all sort of keyboard addicts, so the more we have to type the happier we are. Carpal Tunnel Rules.

Anyway, Quabbin Regional JSHS 70-76, Dropped out in 74, restarted in 75, dropped out in 75, came back for Sr. year and graduated with my class in 76. (health problems) Clark U 76-77 (Worcester Ma, dropped out) Thames Valley Tech College (81-87, A.S. computers) Mohegan Community College (87-88) UCONN Avery Point, Hartford and Storrs (B.A. 90 and M.A. 93)

KatLaughing--I wonder if we ever ran into each other around here when you lived in CT. Dai(*the* one and only!) 'scuse my ignorance, but I think you'd need a college education just to be able to pronounce the names of your schools! ;>

I find this interesting because it's long been my belief that degrees *may* (perhaps usually) boost income here in the US, but they don't confer intelligence or wisdom. Nature seems to have been profligate with the intelligence and wisdom, conferring them randomly among the academically inclined and the rest of the population. I've been hanging around the 'cat for nearly a year, and everyone who posts regularly, in my opinion, has gotten large dollops of intelligence and wisdom, regardless of education! I've learned a lot here!

(v relinquishes soap box and casually tosses $0.02 into the battered black beret nailed to the wall.)

V


16 Jul 99 - 09:37 AM (#95833)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Easy Rider

I graduated from Stuyvesant High School, in New York City.

We have a very active Alumni Association, so, if anyone else out there went to Stuy, please let me know, and I'll get you on our mailing list, so you can find out about reunions, school news, Etc. Just send me email, with your name, year, and full mailing address. I'm listed, as a member of Mudcat.

EZR


16 Jul 99 - 09:40 AM (#95836)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)

Concord High School, Concord NH 1977, took a year off to work and travel around France and the UK where I learned a lot more than at Boston University School of Music of the School for the Arts (say that 10 times fast) 1982 . Joe, I took one seminary course at the Episcopal Divinity School and would have loved to continue but life and family have a way of keeping me down on the farm. I have no real interest in more college degrees, but I'm a voracious learner in the University of the Universe!
Allison


16 Jul 99 - 09:46 AM (#95838)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Big Mick

Proud graduate of Kelloggsvile High School, class of '69 (how a propos!!, thought I would say before 'Spaw) then off to a place I would like to forget for a bit, bounced around college classes from San Diego to Michigan, but never graduated college. Tons of education through the labor movement.

Big Mick


16 Jul 99 - 10:05 AM (#95849)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: catspaw49

OK Mick, You got the '69 thing, but KELLOGGSVILLE? Man I gotta' know more........like what was the school nickname? The "Corn Pops"......"Fruit Loops"........"Krispies," Snap, Crackle, and Pop as Mascots......."Frosted Flakes," with Tony as a Mascot??????

Geez, I'm sorry Mick, but I'm LMAO here...the possibilities are limited only by the brand names and God knows they make a lot of cereal.

'Spaw


16 Jul 99 - 10:34 AM (#95864)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: AndyG

mmmiiasw!
OK Llanfair,

we already knew we were in M/c at about the same time...

Northenden then Poundswick !
This has to mean you lived in or very close to Wythenshawe yes ?

Now I lived just down the road from Poundswick, (opposite Ferranti's factory in fact), where my parents still live.

Biographical note:
- 1961 Brookhead C.P. (Cheadle)
- 1963 Peel Hall C.P. (Wythenshawe)
- 1969 Chorlton Grammar School/Chorlton High School (Chorlton cum Hardy)

AndyG


16 Jul 99 - 11:01 AM (#95871)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: JR

Eisenhower High Yakima,Wa. before service, college, & reality.


16 Jul 99 - 11:28 AM (#95880)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Margo

Campolindo High School, Moraga California. Then two years at Diablo Valley College, followed by two years at San Francisco Conservatory of Music.

WHAT ON EARTH IS A HAIR SHIRT?????


16 Jul 99 - 11:29 AM (#95881)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: katlaughing

Vixen: we were in Mystic from 1987-1993 and I drove all over hell and back. Loved the country and history. Did you by any chance go to the Northeast Women's Musical Retreat in 1988 at the boy scout camp just above where Foxwoods is now? My daughters and I were there. Before that we lived in Northampton, MA. Went to CT a LOT to Logee's Greenhouse in danielson, Buell's in Eastford, and Caprilands up near UCONN.

Do you ever read the New London DAY? I have an oped piece which is going to be in it this Sunday about the old house we lived in in Mystic & its ghost. It'll be on the Perspectives page.

Okay, since evertyone did do some of the higher education stuff, here's the rest of mine: one of the first women, in Colorado, actually first of any gender, to go through the, then, brand new emergency medical technician, one year program at Mesa College, 1976, Grand Jct., Colorado; found out it was pretty worthless as it was not recognised as anything but a glorified nurse's aide position until a few years later when it caught on.

Several course at Casper College, Casper, WY including a wonderful Wyoming history course by a genuine raconteur of the First Order, who even wrote stories & narrated them for the BBC, on the old West, Bill Bragg, who is now deceased. He gave me, at the time a young mother of three, without a lot of time, an A on my paper on the Sioux Ghost Dance Religion. Also completed a Metalsmithing course & just finished my first course in enameling and loved it.

E'now, kat! Let somebody speak!


16 Jul 99 - 11:39 AM (#95885)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: MMario

Henry T. Wing High School, Sandwich, Mass. (1972) Then Cornell University, where I learned far more in the dorms then anywhere else....

and a hair shirt was just that. a shirt made with a coarse, hairy material, which was worn (and may still be today by some people) as a penance and/or test (usually of faith and endurance)

itchy. irratating. sorta like riding an elephant in shorts. it's possible, but it isn't comfortable.

MMario


16 Jul 99 - 01:04 PM (#95909)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Uilleand

St. Anna Gymnasium, Munich, 1988. ---Thanks to my father discovering the opposite sex and leaving a Jesuit seminary, Mr. Offer.


16 Jul 99 - 01:53 PM (#95920)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Joe Offer

Gee, Catspw, you're just a year younger than me and they give you coffee at McDonald's for 89 cents? They give it to me for the 25-cent senior price, and I don't even ask for a senior discount. I'm still not used to being called an adult, but I guess the 16-yr-old clerks at Mickey-D's must think I'm really old. Sometimes, I think I'd rather pay the young folks' price...
-Joe Offer, aging gracefully-


16 Jul 99 - 02:17 PM (#95927)
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From: Llanfair

Bloody hell, Andy, this is amazing!!! of all the towns in all the world, two mudcatters lived in Wythenshawe!!! Well I was born and brought up in Northenden, my Dad was the administrator of Wythenshawe Hospital, before it was amalgamated with Baguley Sanatorium, and I had both my kids there. you seem to be about 10 years younger than me, so it's unlikely that we have any mutual aquaintances. Husband No. 2 went to Chorlton, because he lived there. I moved on to Altrincham when I married the first time, and have worked my way through Cheshire and Shropshire before settling in Wales. With husband No.3, the younger model!!! He's about your age!!! See you, Bron.


16 Jul 99 - 04:11 PM (#95946)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: AndyG

It gets worse,
would you believe my first job after leaving school was as a med lab technician at...
Wythenshawe Hospital.

AndyG


16 Jul 99 - 04:23 PM (#95951)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Mike Strobel

Graduated in 1970 from: Kenmore East Senior High School ,located in Kenmore, ( Buffalo ) , New York, U.S.A.


16 Jul 99 - 06:13 PM (#95983)
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From: Richard Bridge

Wotcha Brian.

I left Orley Farm it must have been 61 or 62. You'll see my name on the scholarship board.


16 Jul 99 - 06:18 PM (#95985)
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From: Llanfair

Andy, you probably knew of my Dad, James Pugh. I worked at the hospital too, but I was at Withington in '69. in the OT dept. Sorry for the personal stuff, Katlaughing, but it is such a coincidence. Hwyl "spooky" Bron!!!!


16 Jul 99 - 06:25 PM (#95986)
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From: Joe Offer

I'd say the personal stuff is why Kat started this thread. It's good to conncet like that. We former Detroiters do a bit of that a while back. Peter T might get a wuzzums attack, but that's OK. He deserves it. (grin)
-Joe Offer-


16 Jul 99 - 07:01 PM (#96000)
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From: Susan of DT

James Madison High, Brooklyn, NY, '64
BS Cornell U, '68
MS Syracuse U, '76
DEd Penn State U, '85

those of you with incomplete college degrees might be interested in the distance learning college for adults where I work, Thomas Edison State College. Send a member e-mail if you want to know more or to digitrad2@sprintmail.com


16 Jul 99 - 07:08 PM (#96003)
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From: DougR

Joe Offer:

Yep, I'm on my last leg. I was there when dirt was invented.

It's fun to be among so many young'uns!

DougR


16 Jul 99 - 07:08 PM (#96004)
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From: Banjer

Dixie M. Hollins, for those who asked, was one of the first Superintendents of Pinellas County Schools. Dixie M. Hollins High School was named after him, all who refer to it just call it Dixie.


16 Jul 99 - 07:12 PM (#96007)
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From: Mark Cohen

Central High School of Philadelphia, (second oldest public HS in the US, after Boston Latin), 1970, then Princeton, 1973, then Penn State U. College of Medicine in Hershey, Pa, dot, dot, dot, Big Island of Hawaii.


16 Jul 99 - 07:12 PM (#96008)
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From: katlaughing

Bron: Joe is exactly right! I don't mind the personal stuff at ALL! I delight in reading every bit of it, even words made of almost all consonants:-) (Actually I love languages SO much, I am dying to know how to rponounce some of those words!)

And, I did think it might get more personal as some find they've shared some backgrounds. Thanks, everyone, it's PHUN!

katlaughing


16 Jul 99 - 08:32 PM (#96023)
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From: Paul G.

Fox Lane High School, Bedford, New York, '71

Otterbein College, Westerville Ohio, B.A. '75 (Catspaw knows about that one, I'll bet...)

University of North Florida, Jacksonville, M.H.S. '91

--pg


16 Jul 99 - 09:52 PM (#96037)
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From: katlaughing

Since I started this, I am going to say it's okay to list your sig. other's, too, esp. if they happened to have lived in a more populous state from where another graduate might show up on the Mudcat!

Rog- Nashua Sr. High - Nashua, NH class of 1966
USAF - all kinds of electronic communications stuff for 4 yrs, mostly in San Diego & the Phillipines


16 Jul 99 - 10:02 PM (#96041)
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From: catspaw49

You're right Paul, I do. Beautiful place, classic "college" look.......Berea is about 3 times larger but very similar in appearance. So did you go sled ridin' up at Hoover, or just check out the Submarine races?

catspaw


16 Jul 99 - 10:38 PM (#96047)
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From: Rick Fielding

Hey Kat, I wasn't a rebel! Rebels got to wear neat clothes and take straight girls for rides on their motorcycles.

Expelled from Lower Canada College for bad attendance. Expelled from Macdonald High school for bad attendance (and bad attitude). Expelled from Central Tech. Art College for really bad attendance and even worse attitude. Fired from 7 or 8 jobs, and then took the old guitar and hit the road. When I get expelled from life, it sure won't be for bad attendance.(and actually I think my attitude is quite good)
Rick


16 Jul 99 - 10:49 PM (#96053)
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From: catspaw49

I agree Rick ... It is!!! But even though it's saved my life twice, I gotta' get rid of this mental image of you bending over backward!!! You're one helluva' nice guy.....so do you think you could help find a tiple for Duane? (See the Fun Site-Kinda' B.S. thread)

catspaw


16 Jul 99 - 10:59 PM (#96056)
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From: John Hindsill

Venice High School, Los Angeles, class of 19something or other. VHS's main claim to fame, Myrna Loy posed for the statue on the front lawn; she was there in early 20s. No, we were not classmates!.-John


16 Jul 99 - 11:13 PM (#96058)
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From: harpgirl

...The Liggett School for HS...all girls...I was the center forward on the hockey team...sixteen girls in my class(in Michigan) then two degrees at University of Michigan and one more at Florida State University...but the years would reveal my age...( my grandma said a lady who told her age would tell anything...)Oh, and Gilda Radnor went to Liggett..harp


16 Jul 99 - 11:14 PM (#96059)
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From: WyoWoman

Joe and other seminarians -- My sister received her Master's of Theology four years ago when I was living in Santa Fe. I went to the candy store to buy her a pound of divinity, as a joke, and the girl behind the counter made a comment about me really liking divinity. So I told her that my sister had graduated with her master's in divinity. She got a really blank look on her face for a minute and said in completely straight Valley Girlese, "So that's, like, a cooking school, right?"

WhatEVer.

WW

P.S. And I guess one of the reasons I mentioned my "higher ed" stuff wasn't so much bragging -- ok, maybe it was -- but because I was just so proud of myself to finally go back and at my stage of semi-decrepitude, as a single mom with a fulltime job and a teen still at home, to not only earn my degree, but to earn honors. I always felt that it was such an incomplete area of my life. So -- INSPIRATIONAL MOMENT AHEAD -- if there are any of you out there wishing you had, but feeling too old, I'd say, just go for it if it's important to you. My experience was that the professors were really, really happy to have an "older" student (they call 'em non-traditional, but we all know what that means) because I could actually have an informed conversation with them. So go enroll yourself in something.

ww


16 Jul 99 - 11:20 PM (#96062)
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From: Cap't Bob

Attended Lincoln Elementary School in Hudson, Michigan ~ no degree, however I got my first taste of rhythm band music (only one tambourine, one triangle, but lots of rhythm sticks ~ darn). Graduated from Hudson High School in 1951 (for many years it was the H.S. team with the most consecutive win ~ 77 if I remember correctly) ~ the win streak started the year after I graduated ~ darn. B.S. from Adrian College and M.S. from the Univ. of Michigan.

During the last several years I have been the president of the Posey Lake Akademy of Musicology where I have bestowed several Honorary PHD's upon myself and others as well. They say we are just a diploma mill ~ what can I say? Our diplomas are printed on quality, genuine inkjet paper. For someone just starting out who wants to goof off, play the guitar, and not attend classes, the P.L.A.M. is the school to attend. Degrees are only fifteen bucks ~ $87.50 with professional framing ~.

Cap't Bob


16 Jul 99 - 11:22 PM (#96063)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Paul G.

Catspaw...We had a little spot staked out at Hoover Reservoir that we named Yucca Flats...I vaguely remember something about trash cans filled with whatever cheap booze we could get our hands on. The rest is a blur...


16 Jul 99 - 11:27 PM (#96068)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Bud

Community High School, Downers Grove, IL, 1956

Northern Illinois University, 1960, B.S. in Ed.

Rosary College, River Forest,IL 1969, M.A. in Library Science

Retired after 38 years teaching, 1998

I guess that puts me well up in the older than dirt class.


16 Jul 99 - 11:35 PM (#96071)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Bill D

Wichita Norh HS, Wichita Kans...1957

Wichita State Univ, Washington Univ.,St Louis.....

30% of a Masters thesis in philosophy done...*sigh*..

(and kat...I had relatives..aunt & uncle..in Grand Junction about 1968-73...they also lived in Rifle awhile. I loved that year-round swimming pool in Grand Junction) (I was born in Denver!)


16 Jul 99 - 11:38 PM (#96072)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: katlaughing

Cap't Bob: I have looked up Hudson, MI on the Internet and seen some really neat historical pictures of it. The reason I was looking is because I've been trying to track my Hudson ancestors. The one from my line went up there, from Virginia, somewhere to build ships for the War of 1812, when it was thought most of the action would be up there. My dad cannot remember the name of the town where they settled and said his dad found any records had burnt down with a courthouse fire. My thinking was maybe Hudson, MI was named after someone other than Henry, i.e. a long lost relative:-) Do you know any of the origins of the town name? Thanks, either way.

katlaughing

BTW- All - Just how old is dirt supposed to BE!? And WW: we knew you weren't braggin'! You deserve a great big pat on the back etc. for such a wonderful accomplishment! Good for you! Congratulations!


16 Jul 99 - 11:44 PM (#96075)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: catspaw49

Yeah, but WW, I'm the world's worst student anymore...I mean, it's obvious that I've got an opinion, but I used to be able to control it and just "give them what they wanted." A few years ago while teaching in a VoEd, all of us were required to take specific courses to attain and maintain our Certificates. So I'm in a course on management at OSU and the prof is about 30 and has never had a job outside of education. I'm not going to go into the details of my sales and management career...let's say I was way past good...record setting with the Fortune 5 I was with.......get the idea.

Have you ever seen the Rodney Dangerfield movie "Back to School?" After two classes, which I had kinda' taken over????....Well.....I get a call to talk to the Dept. Head who asks me not to come back!!! I suggest his prof cannot identify cowpies from Kiwi and that the ENTIRE class is being CHEATED!!! It was one Hell of an argument...I won! The class lost. I was given credit and a pass (pass/fail course). I tried to negotiate getting my money back, but at least I got half of it applied to another course....which is another story.

catspaw


16 Jul 99 - 11:50 PM (#96079)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: katlaughing

Yea, 'Spaw, I know what you mean. I'm afraid I'd be the same way. My professor girlfriend told me the other day that if I ever went back to college I'd be scary. What she meant was armed with that much more knowledge, but what I think would be scary is me being exactly as you've experienced.

I just never felt the need.

katlaughing,opinionated&mouthy!


17 Jul 99 - 12:15 AM (#96085)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Cap't Bob

katlaughing ~ According to my book "Reflections on the Bean" (referring to Bean Creek) the town was named after a fellow called Daniel Hudson sometime during the l830's. The first settlers in the area, before it became the town of Hudson, were: Hiram Kidder from Geneva, N.Y., Charles Ames from Massachusetts and his brothers, Henry, William, Ezra. Apparently Daniel Hudson moved into the area around l834.

Hudson is also the home town of Will Carlton who wrote "Over the hill to the poor-house".

Cap't Bob


17 Jul 99 - 12:20 AM (#96086)
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From: WyoWoman

No, no. I'm not saying anyone SHOULD go back to school. It isn't some sort of requirement for a rich, fulfilling life. And Lord knows, I know a bunch of real idiots with plenty of degrees. What I was saying was, if it's something you've been wanting to do, but have been holding back, well -- the water's fine.

ww


17 Jul 99 - 12:31 AM (#96093)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: catspaw49

Seriously WW, I did understand. Karen would love to go back and I think most everyone around here knows what admiration I have for my friend Wayne, the new PA (at age 48!) It just is not something I can do.

And you are certainly to be commended for all you've achieved! Congrats on a job well done. I truly admire you for it.

On the other hand, teaching was one of the greatest times of my life.......but that's yet another story.

catspaw


17 Jul 99 - 12:57 AM (#96106)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: campfire

Custer High School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Class of '76

University of Wisconsin -Milwaukee '82

learned lots more in the school of life, though

campfire


17 Jul 99 - 02:07 AM (#96120)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Lonesome EJ

Pleasure Ridge Park High School- Pleasure Ridge Park, Kentucky, graduated 1967(Go you Panthers!) University of Louisville 1967-71(Go you Cardinals!)Major: English Literature University of Colorado/Denver 1979-80(Go you Buffaloes!)Real life 1980-99 Mudcat 1999-?

Like Jerry said, "What a long strange trip it's been..."

LEJ


17 Jul 99 - 02:30 AM (#96125)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Sourdough

katlaughing: I never made it to Nashua High School but I did get to Nashua Junior High School for a year and a half. THat was twelve or fourteen years before your Rog graduated so it's unlikely that our paths crossed very often (unless his parents hired me to baby sit). Haven't lived there since but I still regard myself as a New Hampshireman.

I often think of my father who left Nashua to retire in Florida. I was visiting him and as we walked along one of Miami's tree-lined streets he said, "I don't think New Englanders transplant very well. Every time I see one of those damned palm trees, I'm sure one of us is in the wrong place."

Sourdough


17 Jul 99 - 10:31 AM (#96164)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Big Mick

'Spaw, I have been straining real hard to come up with something witty to respond with, but I keep cracking up. It is a pretty funny name.

Mick


17 Jul 99 - 03:07 PM (#96237)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: katlaughing

Sourdough: I love your dad's sense of humour! A CT friend once told me of her friend who moved to Hawaii, after being in New England all of her life. Her kitchen window looked out at the beauty of nature. One day, after being there for a few years, her husband came home to find her washing the same bowl over and over, saying, "Another beautiful damn day in Hawaii, another beautiful damn day in Hawaii." He moved her back to NE very soon after. Seems she missed the seasons!

Regards your babysitting Rog. He was the first born and the delight of all. Since he was/is related to most of the French-Canadian population of NH, I doubt they ever went looking for "outside" help.:-) From what I can tell, his aunties adored him and his mom, as do I.

Any chance of being related to the LaFrances, Birons, Denis, etc., etc?

My daughter washed dishes one high school summer at Enders Island near Mystic, CT. It is a Catholic retreat center. When we went to pick her up one time, she was so excited. One of the older nuns visiting figured out she was a cousin of Roger's!

katlaughing


18 Jul 99 - 02:02 PM (#96487)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: MAG (inactive)

OK, Bud, we went to the same library school, but I graduated in 1980.

I didn't mention mu undergraduate school because it is where I learned to appreciate the difference between good teaching and bad teaching, and to avoid the bad, however much my genes worship formal education.

I learned the most at Old Town School of Folk Music, which will always have a big piece of my heart. Thank you Ted Johnson, Jim Craig, Bill Hanson, Bob Gibson, Elizabeth Staffen and some others.

__ Mary Ann


18 Jul 99 - 06:37 PM (#96571)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Legal Eagle

Not many brits. Is this modesty, rarity, or are we all too stupid to have "graduated high school"?


18 Jul 99 - 08:15 PM (#96613)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: moonchild

Attended Cocoa High School in Rockledge, Florida, for my sophomore and junior years (63/64, 64/65). Graduated from Merritt Island High School, Merritt Island, Florida, in 1966 ... first graduating class from MIHS! Attended what was then Brevard Junior College, then Florida State University ... received my undergrad degree in Liberal Arts in 1969. Received my MBA from Portland State, Portland, Oregon, in 1989.

I have never thought that having a degree from an institution of higher learning had anything to do with an individual's intelligence nor with their degree of common sense. It is, however, an accomplishment, and, with the exception of a licensed discipline, teaches one about life and commitment and perseverance. Even then, it's iffy in some cases. I've hired staff, at times, based on the fact that they made it through, rather than what they made it through in ... moonchild


18 Jul 99 - 08:23 PM (#96617)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: catspaw49

It doesn't have anything to do with intelligence? OR Common Sense? Well there goes my self esteem...........

Moonchild--You don't sound the type, but do you work for Xerox?

catspaw


18 Jul 99 - 08:36 PM (#96623)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: moonchild

Well, Catspaw ... you echoed my sentiments about degrees vs. intelligence and common sense. I am sitting here shaking my head and smiling largely about the reference to "You don't sound the type, but do you work for Xerox." Now, I'm going to put your feet to the fire and ask you to intepret that last statement ... moonchild


18 Jul 99 - 09:13 PM (#96640)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: catspaw49

Moonchild---I have read a lot of your posts and you don't seem the Xerox type, but your comments regarding accomplishment is one of the bedrock pieces of their corporate philosophy. Is that what I'm supposed to explain? My feet are approaching medium well, so let me know.

Spaw


18 Jul 99 - 09:31 PM (#96653)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: moonchild

Cat ... I'm too radical to have ever worked for Xerox or IBM and I left a 5-year skyrocketing career with Kinko's Corporate because of the corporate bullshit. Now I work for Sprint PCS (digital, wireless phones). I must admit I like working in high-tech, but I'm not willing to compromise my quality of life and values for the "company." I am, however, a single woman and must pay the bills. Fortunately, our operation in Tallahassee is small (8 fulltime permanent and 8 fulltime temps)and a good percentage of us are "renegades" (for lack of a better word).

To add an addendum to what I stated previously about hiring ... I have never hired anyone unless they were qualified for a position, and, unless it was a company mandate that a candidate have a degree, I would never hire someone just because they have a degree over a more-qualified individual without a degree.

And ... regarding accomplishment ... a feeling of accomplishment is a good thing and it can come from many difference avenues ... I love to iron because I have such a sense of accomplishment when I look at all those clean, starched clothes on hangers. Perhaps that's going a little far afield for some, but you get my drift. When I was singing for a living, though it didn't happen often, I felt a sense of accomplishment when a patron come up to me afterwards and said "You really made me think with that song." And, when you're working something out on the guitar, don't you feel a sense of accompliment when you figure out that last chord?

The words "accomplishment" and "commitment" have gotten a bad rep because they are so often used in the context of "accomplishment, i.e., work until you drop dead on the job."

This has gone astray from the original thread, but I hope the explanation makes my thread response more definitive .... moonchild


18 Jul 99 - 09:39 PM (#96655)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: catspaw49

Yes, you've done a fine job and should feel "accomplshment" for that too. Coming from a past life with Fortune 5's, I understand exactly.

My laundry will be delivered to your door UPS....light starch on the shirts, hangers please.

Spaw


18 Jul 99 - 10:00 PM (#96667)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: bbelle

Catspaw ... I've been sort of down in the dumps all weekend and you've made me laugh twice, and heartily I might add. Thank you .... I'll be looking for your laundry. I'm definitely the "anal-retentive-ironer" and, being ambidextrous, I iron with both hands. And ... I remember the day that I ironed 14 starched, 100% cotton, tailored, buttondown, longsleeve blouses. It was on that day that I packed up all the suits and blouses and said "no more." The very next day I turned in my notice to Kinko's Corporate and took a year off to regroup and decide my next step. That's how I found Sprint PCS and it was a good step. goodnight and peace to all ... moonchild


18 Jul 99 - 11:42 PM (#96707)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: katlaughing

KOOL! Moonchild! Good for you! I have a friend who was sent to her aunties in Puerto Rico, as a teen when she was getting a little out of control in NYC. Her aunties taught her proper ironing, for the entire summer. They even made her iron her underwear. She has raised all three of her daughters to do the same!

Hope your week goes better.

kat


18 Jul 99 - 11:55 PM (#96716)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: bbelle

Thanks, Kat. I can't believe I've spent almost all day responding to threads in the Mudcat, but it sure has been fun, and thought-providing, yadduh, yadduh, yadduh. I know what's wrong with me ... my birthday is Tuesday and this will be the first time in 51 years that I will be alone. This may seem trite to some ... but I consider birthdays to be special because they are a person's very own day and a person's birth date determines, in large part, who they are. There, I said it! Enough, enough, enough, I've got to close down this goshdarned thang and hit the pillows... moonchild


19 Jul 99 - 03:10 AM (#96757)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Richard Bridge

Wotcha

I will reply to your message when the "send a messgae" page does not say "fill all boxes" - but present me with none to fill!


19 Jul 99 - 06:36 PM (#97045)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Penny S.

Moonchild, what sort of iron do you use? I've had to get a cordless one so I can manage ambidextrous work. Not that I do it all that frequently, but it does avoid a lot of the repositioning, doesn't it?

Penny

Oh, and it's past midnight in Berlin. Happy birthday!


19 Jul 99 - 07:11 PM (#97061)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: katlaughing

Moonchild & Penny: I have a friend in Boulder, CO, who was telling me about her memories of growing up in the mountains above there when things were a bit rustic. She said they had a Coleman iron which used kerosene, just like the lanterns! She hated it because it would sputter & spit and catch her clothes on fire or at least scorch them!

kat


19 Jul 99 - 07:22 PM (#97064)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: bbelle

PennyS ...I just use a regular iron and position the ironing board so the cord moves easily with whichever hand I'm using. Thanks for the birthday wishes ... I was born in Tsingtao, China, on the other side of the international dateline, so, every year on my birthday, I thinks to myself "I was really born yesterday."

Kat ... a kerosene iron ... I can't even imagine! When I lived in the Bahamas, my mother had recently had a heart attack so we had a housekeeper, who used flat irons that she heated on the kerosene stove. I'm not sure if I would enjoy ironing quite as much, without the modern convenience of electricity.

Now, gentlemen, you may be thinking that we women (and a few men) have really garnered the corner on BS, however, for exercising the thought processes, there is no better task than ironing... moonchild


19 Jul 99 - 08:25 PM (#97093)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: DougR

Moonchild, I'm gonna take your word for that. Ironing and me are not compatible.

DougR


19 Jul 99 - 08:47 PM (#97099)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Lonesome EJ

Happy Birthday, Moonchild, and remember Darlin - you're never alone when you're a Mudcatter! LEJ


19 Jul 99 - 11:18 PM (#97163)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: WyoWoman

Moonchild -- I dealt with just such a moment in my life by celebrating the birthday -- jumping out of an airplane at 14,000 ft.

It was awesome. And I didn't feel a smidge OLDER!

WW


19 Jul 99 - 11:48 PM (#97179)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: bbelle

I don't think that I'll be jumping out of a plane; it makes me lightheaded just to think about it! My "statement of age" was to cut all my hair off, to about a 1/2". Luckily I have tons of dark, coarse curly hair so I don't even remotely resemble bald. But I was tired of all the hoopla associated with hair ... life is just too short! And I love the freedom. I believe that whatever it takes for an individual to have a sense of freedom is a good thing. Now, I don't mean killing someone or doing harm to anyone, just things like cutting one's hair or shedding one's clothing and joining a nudist club. There's a spot just west of Portland, Oregon, called Rooster Rock, and it's where everyone goes to sunbathe in the nude. I went a couple of times in the early '80's and I cannot begin to tell you how adept I became at shucking my clothes and putting them back on in a prone position.

There I go, off on a tangent, again, but I am feeling very good tonight and very free and, well, what can I say ... I'll probably catch some heat for foddering a totally BS thread, but so be it (this time) ... love ... moonchild


19 Jul 99 - 11:50 PM (#97180)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Bert

Who was the Masochistic moron who started this thread :-)
'GHING, I thought you were my FRIEND!! (Just kidding ya Kat, love)

I guess I'd better fess up as well. I'm right there along with Fadac and Rick. Didn't do at all well in school. Wen't to a grammar school in England, "Churcher's College" in Petersfield, Hants. We moved out of the area when I was fifteen and I didn't want to start at a new school. I had the opportunity to take an apprenticeship as a boilermaker at the place where Dad worked - Best thing I ever did(I'm a fourth generation boilermaker, great granddad Joe Hansell was the first that I know of). Studied Mechanical engineering on day release (That's one day a week, plus five nights homework) On the final year of my Higher National Certificate (poor man's or working class degree)I had girlfriend problems and flunked miserably. Pick it up again a few years later and finished the final year.

Later in the job market I found that employers actually preferred an HNC to a BS 'cos we had had some hands on work.

Piddled with photography and entomology, amongst other things, on a purely amateur basis.

When I came to the States I took some time off work and got a Master's in computer science at "Cibar Systems Institute" in Colorado Springs.

Bert.


20 Jul 99 - 12:08 AM (#97195)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: gargoyle

She sat, nude, on a rock named Rooster
Till Neptune came up with his trident and goosed her.


20 Jul 99 - 10:17 AM (#97318)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Liam's Brother

Sacred Heart College, Droitwich Spa, Worcestershire - sentence: 6 years, served 3 years with time off for bad behavior.

Jamaica High School, Jamaica, New York - sentence: 1 year.


20 Jul 99 - 10:44 AM (#97330)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Roger the zimmer

Bloomsbury St. mixed (up) infants, Nechells, Birmingham, UK 1948-52-ish
Erdington Hall Rd. Juniors, Erdington ,Birmingham 1952-1955
Handsworth Grammar School, Birmingham 1955-1963(unlike my dad who also went there but was taken away at 14 by hisdad for playing too much football & not doing any work, I was made to stay the course- no good at sport so no excuse!)
Cardiff University 1963-1966
College of Librarianship, Aberystwyth 1967-68( the Portakabin years)


20 Jul 99 - 11:05 AM (#97339)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Liam's Brother

Hi Roger!

Seeing where you went to school, I just wanted to tell you that I lived where Spaghetti Junction is now in 1959 - 1961. Also lived on Chester Road in Erdington.

All the best, Dan


20 Jul 99 - 11:23 AM (#97346)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Roger the zimmer

Dan, I lived in Kingsbury Rd from age 9-18 roughly, (and my father still does) plus a couple of separate years either side of library school working locally (Public Library then University of Aston) before I moved South. I used to go to the Opposite Lock (jazz) club in Gas Street Basin and the odd folk concert at the Town Hall.
As my India-born Irish grandfather might have said: "You can tell I'm a Brummie by the shamrock in my turban", though the accent has faded slightly!


20 Jul 99 - 11:43 AM (#97351)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Bill in Alabama

Chattanooga High School--1957 University of Chattanooga--1961:B.A. in English Brief military interlude-- East Tennessee State University--1963: M.A. in English University of Alabama, 1968--Ph.D. in Linguistics/American Literature/ Elizabethan-Jacobean drama. At present, still teaching, although with 37 years in the system I could have retired a while back. Now *that's* older than dirt!


20 Jul 99 - 12:03 PM (#97353)
Subject: RE: BS-What was your high school/UK equivalent/
From: Steve Parkes

Beechdale Infants, 1956; Elmore Green Junior, then Beechdale Junior when it was built; Queen Mary's Grammar School, Walsall, 1962-69; Matthew Boulton Technical College, Birmingham, 1969-71 (failed OND Engineering with flying colours); a l-o-n-g hiatus; Open University (in my spare time, 1980-88 (BA, no flying colours). Married a teacher, 1977: I must be a glutton for it! Several of my school friends are respectable headteachers now - the mind boggles.

Steve