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BS: There are a lot of threads on here

14 Aug 09 - 05:09 PM (#2700436)
Subject: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: the lemonade lady

There are a lot of threads on here that people use just to have a good bitch at other people.

I don't bother much with this site anymore because of this.

Sad isn't it?

Sal


14 Aug 09 - 05:14 PM (#2700441)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: pdq

You are quite right about the people who are addicted to complaining.

Simple fact: watching others bitch is poor entertainment


14 Aug 09 - 05:15 PM (#2700442)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Should be some way of stopping the threads that are only waspish.
And all threads on political correctness, and posts about politics.


14 Aug 09 - 05:20 PM (#2700447)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Sorcha

Pretty much why I'm not here much anymore either, Sal.

Q, there IS, but the PIC don't want to use it.


14 Aug 09 - 05:21 PM (#2700448)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Little Hawk

It happens eventually with any large group of people online, unless those in charge simply don't allow it to.


14 Aug 09 - 05:22 PM (#2700449)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Bee-dubya-ell

There are a lot of threads on here that people use just to have a good bitch at other people.

Are we talking about the Good Bitch of the North, or the Good Bitch of the South?


14 Aug 09 - 05:23 PM (#2700451)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Little Hawk

It's the Wicked Bitch of the West that really gives me the shivers.


14 Aug 09 - 05:25 PM (#2700453)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: bobad

There are also some threads of people bitching about people bitching.


14 Aug 09 - 05:31 PM (#2700463)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Little Hawk

And then you have the people who bitch about the people who bitch about other people bitching.... ;-)


14 Aug 09 - 05:40 PM (#2700467)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: 3refs

Little Hawk
Let's talk cars then!
Are you taking in any of the Classic Car/Legneds of Rock and Roll show this weekend?


14 Aug 09 - 05:45 PM (#2700472)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Peace

She's real fine my 409
She's real fine my 409
My 409

Well I saved my pennies and I saved my dimes
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
For I knew there would be a time
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
When I would buy a brand new 409
(409, 409)
Giddy up giddy up giddy up 409
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 409
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 409
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 40...

Nothing can catch her
Nothing can touch my 409
409 ooooo
(Giddy up giddy up oooo)
(Giddy up giddy up oooo)
(Giddy up giddy up oooo)
(Giddy up giddy up)

When I take her to the track she really shines
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
She always turns in the fastest times
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
My four speed dual quad posi-traction 409
(409, 409, 409, 409)

Giddy up giddy up giddy up 409
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 409
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 409
(Giddy up giddy up 409)
Giddy up 40...

Nothing can catch her
Nothing can touch my 409
(409 409 409 409)
Giddy up 409
(409 409 409 409)
Giddy up 409
(409 409 409 409)


14 Aug 09 - 05:51 PM (#2700479)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: heric

Crazy bout a Mercury


14 Aug 09 - 05:53 PM (#2700481)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: 3refs

I had a Buick Park Ave that had a 409 in it. Big boat that you could get lost in!


14 Aug 09 - 06:02 PM (#2700488)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

440 more fun than a 44.


14 Aug 09 - 06:05 PM (#2700491)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: pdq

The 409 was definitely a Chevy engine. Not sure how one got in a Buick unless it was a transplant.


14 Aug 09 - 06:13 PM (#2700502)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: heric

I think 3refs is in Canada.


14 Aug 09 - 06:13 PM (#2700503)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Little Hawk

I saw the signs for it on Coldwater Road today, 3refs, but I haven't seen the show yet. Where is it located? I'll go down tomorrow and have a look for sure.


14 Aug 09 - 06:18 PM (#2700507)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Jack Campin

I had to look that up: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html

409 Conflict

The request could not be completed due to a conflict with the current state of the resource. This code is only allowed in situations where it is expected that the user might be able to resolve the conflict and resubmit the request. The response body SHOULD include enough information for the user to recognize the source of the conflict. Ideally, the response entity would include enough information for the user or user agent to fix the problem; however, that might not be possible and is not required.

Conflicts are most likely to occur in response to a PUT request. For example, if versioning were being used and the entity being PUT included changes to a resource which conflict with those made by an earlier (third-party) request, the server might use the 409 response to indicate that it can't complete the request. In this case, the response entity would likely contain a list of the differences between the two versions in a format defined by the response Content-Type.


14 Aug 09 - 06:21 PM (#2700511)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Uncle_DaveO

Will someone show Lemonade Lady the back arrow or the Forum Home button?

If you don't like a thread, stop readin' it, fergoonessakes! If you see a thread started by someone you consider a bitcher, get out of it! If you see a thread title you expect to creating objectionable bitching, don't open it!

And of course if everything on Mudcat is objectionable to you, the solution is obvious!

Dave Oesterreich


14 Aug 09 - 06:37 PM (#2700523)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Little Hawk

I find much in this world objectionable. If the world doesn't change to suit my wishes by this time next week, I am going to take my toys and go back to Mars!


14 Aug 09 - 06:47 PM (#2700530)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Ebbie

"There are a lot of threads on here that people use just to have a good bitch at other people" lemonade lady

Frankly, I hadn't noticed.

all threads on political correctness, and posts about politics. " Q

Oh, please, No! Politics, bitchy or not, are essential.

"There are also some threads of people bitching about people bitching. " bobad

Tell me about it.

And finally: "If you don't like a thread, stop readin' it, fergoonessakes! If you see a thread started by someone you consider a bitcher, get out of it! If you see a thread title you expect to creating objectionable bitching, don't open it!" Uncle _DaveO

Exactly.


14 Aug 09 - 07:25 PM (#2700554)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: 3refs

Right now about 100 at Home Depot. Covers the whole downtown Saturday. Expecting 450 cars plus AC/DC tribute band.


14 Aug 09 - 07:28 PM (#2700557)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: bobad

"plus AC/DC tribute band."

Good god, I hope they don't emulate that guy with the English schoolboy fetish.


14 Aug 09 - 07:45 PM (#2700568)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: catspaw49

The Chevy 409 was an elegant piece of engineering which led to the very successful "Rat" motors of the late '60's muscle cars. The sound of a solid lifter Rat is one of those unlike any other.

Chevy found themselves with two good small blocks (the 283-327 series) and the 348. The 348 had room to grow however and the guys at Chevy worked it over into the 409. The damn thing weighed just a few pounds more than Chevy's in-line 6 and in its most common build, produced about 400 HP. Running two big Carter Quads it cranked out 425 HP and would pass damn near anything but a gas station.

BTW......I bet that whoever it was that thought Buick used it was thinking of the 403, an Olds engine Buick shared for a few years.

Spaw


14 Aug 09 - 07:46 PM (#2700570)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Bill D

If Mudcat gives you threads that are Lemons, uhhhhh..... go squeeze something? I can't count the threads I don't even bother opening.....and some I close pretty quickly when I see what's in 'em.


14 Aug 09 - 07:47 PM (#2700574)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: McGrath of Harlow

What's the definition of "bitching"? A particular variety of complaining about something, but what determines whether a complaint counts as "bitching" or not? What's the distinction between a bitcher and a bitch?...


14 Aug 09 - 07:48 PM (#2700575)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: gnu

We had AC/DC here at the Magnetic Hill Concert Site in Moncton two Thursdays ago. Well over 70k tickets sold. The site is 4km from me. I did not attend. But I witnessed the traffic.

Gonna buy me a Mercury, cruise up and down the road.
Ain't gonna open no threads what add to my heavy load.

Your mileage may vary.


14 Aug 09 - 07:51 PM (#2700578)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Janie

....Poppa, squeeze me, squeeze me and then, don't stop 'til I tell you when
Poppa, squeeze me some more, just like you did before....


14 Aug 09 - 07:51 PM (#2700579)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Peace

Q) What's the distinction between a bitcher and a bitch?...
A) What is 'er'?


14 Aug 09 - 07:56 PM (#2700586)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T

One man's meat is another man's poisson!

There is a sufficient number of threads for everyone to find something of interest, while ignoring that which doesn't suit, and enough left over for a good size overcoat.

Don't change Mudcat, sez I. Just be more choosey about which bits you use.

Don T.


15 Aug 09 - 12:33 AM (#2700712)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: heric

I should have quit you long time ago,
Yeah, long time ago.
Oh yeah, long time ago.
I wouldn't be here, my children,
Down on this killing floor.

I should have quit you, baby, such a long time ago,
I wouldnt be here with all my troubles
Down on this killing floor.


15 Aug 09 - 03:22 AM (#2700748)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Richard Bridge

Back to cars, I am today taking my spare B234F engine to the redblock guru to be rebuilt and turned into a B234F+T. In that form it should deliver about 250 to 300 crank horsepower which will make the recipient car (a 945) pretty brisk for a 20 year old Volvo.

And car songs

"Dead Man's Curve" - a fuel injected Stingray and a 413

"Jaguar and Thunderbird"


15 Aug 09 - 04:27 AM (#2700768)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Joe Offer

I usually prefer 24 threads per inch or coarser. 32 threads per inch is too fine, and the threads tend to get screwed up and cross-threaded...


15 Aug 09 - 04:40 AM (#2700772)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: 3refs

The Buick was a "Bastard". It was an American car that somehow ended up in Canada. I re and re-ed the trans in it, and came across both metric and standard nuts/bolts. It had options not available up here! The previous owner was so meticulous that he even put it in the cars journal when he checked the tire pressure! The car was absolutely mint!!!


15 Aug 09 - 04:40 AM (#2700773)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Will Fly

250 to 300 HP for a 20-year old Volvo? Good lord - you'll be flying! I have an old 240 GTE Estate (2.3 litre) from 1987 with just 89000 on the clock. Wallows a bit at speed, but it's in immaculate condition and will probably see me out!


15 Aug 09 - 05:00 AM (#2700779)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Gervase

I have HP envy! My Land Rover 90 delivers 68HP tops. That said, it's from 1984 and still going strong (if a little slow on the hills with a livestock trailer on the back).


15 Aug 09 - 05:58 AM (#2700790)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: DMcG

You think its bad here. There is a poll on another site I frequent about when it is acceptable for people in a restaurant to have their shirts tucked-in or left untucked. And it is very heated.

Reminds me of the wars in Swift's Brobdignag (sp?) over which end of boiled egg to eat from.


15 Aug 09 - 06:02 AM (#2700791)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: DMcG

Except it doesn't because that was Lilliput. Ah, me!


15 Aug 09 - 07:37 AM (#2700830)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: John Hardly

I once saw a painting of a painting of a painting of a painting. It was a little like looking in mirrors that face each other and thus send repeating images cascading into eternity. And now a bitching thread about bitching threads.


15 Aug 09 - 08:59 AM (#2700848)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T

It ain't compulsory..........YET!

Don T.


15 Aug 09 - 11:06 AM (#2700901)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: dwditty

Been here for over 12 years...don't post much lately or ever, for that matter. It has changed over the years, but hasn't everything else?

Ironically, I would classify this very thread as someone starting a thread for the purpose of having a good bitch. Go figure.

dw


15 Aug 09 - 02:04 PM (#2701027)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: GUEST,Quokka

Back to AC/DC...I live in a town where Bon Scott grew up,and where he is buried,... they just built a statue of him here, and you should see the crowds around his grave. He was a fine bagpiper you know! In fact I know a few Heavy metal freaks who turned ( or returned) to folk music in their old age. I'm sure if Bon had lived a little longer he would have been a right old folker!

Cheers


15 Aug 09 - 03:14 PM (#2701090)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Joe Offer

I don't know why Buick engines were different from those of other GM products. According to this Wikipedia article, the biggest Buick V8 was a 455. But the cars that had 455-cubic-inch engines were such big boats, that they couldn't go very fast.
Pontiac also had a 455. Oldsmobile had a Rocket 455, but probably its most famous engine was the Rocket 4-4-0 (which was actually 400 cubic inches). The Rocket 88 and Rocket 98 numbers had nothing to do with engine displacement. At 572 cubic inches, it looks like Chevy had the biggest engine, but I gather that this engine was used in trucks. Looks to me like the Cadillac 500 was the biggest GM passenger car engine.
The 428 was the biggest gasoline-powered Ford engine I found. The Chrysler 426 Hemi was a famous engine. And hey, I once was issued a high-powered car as my government vehicle - an American Motors Matador with a 401 V8. It sure was an ugly car, but it had great acceleration.
As far as I can tell, the largest production passenger car engine is the Dodge Viper V10, 510 cubic inches. This page says GM built a 572-cubic-inch crate engine (you had to install it yourself...).


15 Aug 09 - 05:00 PM (#2701180)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Amos

According to the mosheen this is thread 122927. Some of them have upwards of 30000 posts (The MOAB) while others have about two. I wonder what the mean is? And is th emachine counting threads reasonably accurately?


15 Aug 09 - 05:14 PM (#2701194)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Janie

Says Mudcat threadcount exceeds even the most expensive, dense, Egyptian cotton sheets.


15 Aug 09 - 07:38 PM (#2701278)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Little Hawk

Why the heck are you people (peeps?) talkin' on and on about Buicks???? Talk about something more interesting, please! Maybe oatmeal. Or cardboard boxes. Almost anything really would do.


15 Aug 09 - 07:53 PM (#2701286)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Peace

OK.


15 Aug 09 - 08:05 PM (#2701295)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Alice

In 1978, I went on a road trip in a 1949 straight eight Buick Super Dynaflow (Blue). From Montana down to Mexico, along the west coast of Mexico and then into Mexico City, down through Oaxaca, the Isthmus, Guatemala, and then El Salvador. That took one month. Then I lived on the coast of El Salvador for two months in an area called Sihuapilapa. Returning through Guatemala to Tikal, then Belize, around the Yucatan to Merida and Chichen Itaza, to Palenque and Veracruz, the east coasts, back across to Mexico City, and to the west coast again, up through Nogales and north to Montana. That's my Buick story. This isn't the same car, but this is a '49 Buick Super Dynaflow.


15 Aug 09 - 08:08 PM (#2701296)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Little Hawk

Arrgh! NO! NO! Please stop.

(Actually, I have to admit that those are pretty cool looking cars...)


15 Aug 09 - 08:14 PM (#2701300)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Peace

It's about cars!


15 Aug 09 - 08:15 PM (#2701301)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: bobad

Great looking car, Alice love the grill - man, they didn't spare the chrome back then, did they - and the names, Super Dynaflow, who could resist that?


15 Aug 09 - 09:31 PM (#2701333)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Gurney

Peace, I looked carefully, but I could see only one (singular) car.

Are the models twins?

Different thighs, though. I noticed that.


15 Aug 09 - 09:38 PM (#2701334)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Beer

Love all the photo's of the past. Man were they great looking babes. Wonder what condition they are in now.
Beer (adrien)


16 Aug 09 - 12:20 AM (#2701410)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Peace

They look like this and this.


16 Aug 09 - 03:51 AM (#2701445)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Gurney

Well, now, it comes as no great surprise that Joe Offer prefers coarse threads, nor that Janie thinks that a lot of threads are pretty dense. ;<)
However, to the original post: Many of the regular posters below the line here are not aficionados of bitchy topics. They prefer, from my observation, to go straight into personal abuse, almost invariably abuse aimed at people who they know can hold their own in that respect.      If respect is the right word, here.
However, I do note that some people don't really like this, and would like more respect shown.
To them, I would like to say this: It's a bloke thing. Mates DO insult each other! Don't YOU worry about it, Joe knows what he's doing, and IMO this site works better than any other I've visited, i.e., to my taste!


16 Aug 09 - 05:02 PM (#2701817)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: SharonA

Ol' Lemonade Lady claims that she doesn't "bother much with this site anymore", yet when I look at the dates of her 200 most recent posts, versus my 200 most recent, she has chatted here more often than I have! (...and far more often in the 400 most recent posts!)

Not that I'm anywhere near the Inner Circle 'round here, but I consider myself to be at least a "semi-regular" Mudcatter. Been here since 2001 and I have no intentions of leaving in a huff or even out of a huff. Never saw the point in starting a thread to make a big deal out of telling folks that I'm taking a break from posting to cool off or to pursue other interests; I just take the break and come back whenever.

So I have to agree with Lemonade Lady Sal that it's "sad" that she feels it necessary to draw attention to herself and her posting frequency and her urge to rein in OTHER people who just wanna blow off steam and relieve some stress by having a good bitch once in a while... when she obviously feels it's just fine for her to do it! :-)

Perhaps Sal needs to lay off the lemonade for a bit, or at least add a spoonful or two of sugar to counterbalance the sour taste that seems to be in her mouth right now.


16 Aug 09 - 05:21 PM (#2701828)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: heric

There's a guy at my office who is always groaning and grunting while he stretches (I guess he's stretching.) It wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't brought a porn virus in on the system. Beady little eyes. You can serve up a pleasantry and he will stare at you until you speak again. He burps, too. No small talk except to ask you about your clients and their business. Kisses ass like a hoover sucks up dust. Sometimes he just ejaculates foul words out of nowhere when all else is quiet.


17 Aug 09 - 12:03 AM (#2702016)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Severn

To tie all this together, wasn't there a song out a number of years ago called "Bitchin' Camaro"?

Will there be a "Son Of...." spin-off thread?

Will all those who want to all the "bitches" killed off have to move over to the Michael Vick dogfighting thread?


17 Aug 09 - 09:18 AM (#2702171)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Azizi

I see the point that a person who complains about complaining may be guilty of the very act she or he is calling attention to. However, whether I agree or disagree that there are "too many" of "bitching" threads, I'm disappointed that for the most part that subject has been changed and few posters to this thread haven't explored the reasons why people "bitch" (complain) on Mudcat threads.

I think such meta (analytical) discussions can be interesting and beneficial-if those discussions themselves don't descend into bitching.

I was therefore interested to read your comments, SharonA, about why some people start "bitching threads" and/or post comments that "bitch" at another person or persons. You wrote that [people] "just wanna blow off steam and relieve some stress by having a good bitch once in a while..."

I suppose the phrase "having a good bitch" is ripe with witty possibilites and my compliments to the wits among us (you know who you are).

But suppose those words were changed to "having a good rant"?

For what it's worth, it seems to me that there could be some merit in posting a complaint or complaints-since no group or blog or person is perfect, and there's always room for improvement.

It also seems to me that people need to have a good rant every now and then as a way of getting it out of their system, or "blow[ing] off steam".

yet I believe that there is such a thing as too much complaining (but what is "too much?"). And I think that there is a lot of merit in refusing to give in to provocation when someone makes the complaint personal.

But maybe I'm seeing the virtue of "playing pass" (ignoring) insults or criticism (constructive or otherwise) and not reacting or responding to provocation or someone else's rant because I'm usually too self-contained to bitch and rant... Maybe it would be good to sometimes let it rip-and diss individuals and complain until my heart's content-and do it online one a public forum so potentially everybody and anybody could bare witness to my letting off steam.

But even when I post something even moderately testy-as I did the other day in an above the line thread, I feel like I failed my test of maintaining my equilibrium and not letting what other people say get me riled up.

I struggled with this post as I didn't/don't want to be confrontational-though I realize that being confrontational has some merits sometime.

I just felt the need to say what I said.

Best wishes,

Azizi


17 Aug 09 - 09:21 AM (#2702175)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Azizi

Here's one correction to my last post to this thread (The other typos/mistakes will have to fend for themselves:

"I'm disappointed that for the most part that subject has been changed and few posters to this thread have explored the reasons why people "bitch" (complain) on Mudcat threads".


17 Aug 09 - 01:46 PM (#2702336)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Little Hawk

Azizi - I've been talking for years here about why people complain, bitch, rant, etc...why they will not listen objectively to an opinion that differs from their own...why they get unreasonable and hostile...why they go on personal vendettas, etc...

And, boy, does it ever annoy some of those people when I do. ;-D

But it doesn't seem to have encouraged very many of them to engage in a little calm self-analysis or constructive self-criticism. Nope. They are too busy attacking someone or something else. The unexamined (unconscious or reactive) life continues to be the favorite mode of existence for most people, I guess, even though Aristotle (I think it was him...) said that such a life is not worth living.


18 Aug 09 - 11:06 AM (#2703134)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: SharonA

Azizi: Well put. Yes indeed, by "having a good bitch" I meant "having a good rant." Hadn't even thought about the double-entendre possibilities when I wrote that. Sorry!!!


18 Aug 09 - 11:59 AM (#2703160)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: 3refs

In 1970 the Ford 428 Cobra Jet Motor was replaced with a 429 CJ engine!


18 Aug 09 - 06:38 PM (#2703331)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Rowan

Having a good rant is a bit tricky when you have to play the music for it at the same time. I wish I had my High Level Ranters record in the office so I could do it to theirs

Cheers, Rowan


18 Aug 09 - 06:40 PM (#2703335)
Subject: RE: BS: There are a lot of threads on here
From: Peace

We interrupt this thread for the following announcement: