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26 Sep 09 - 12:52 AM (#2731596) Subject: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion A current thread is called 'naughty' songs &c [NB the quote marks]. Another commonly used term is 'bawdy'. Bert Lloyd, as I had to define after quoting it to another regular [American] poster who didn't quite understand what he meant by it, used to call such songs 'disobliging'. As I mentioned in the same post, a source singer had to be much persuaded by the early collector Priscilla Wyatt-Edgell to sing her a certain song, as it was, he thought, unsuitable for a lady's ears, being, in his words 'outway rude'. Can anyone think of any other adjectives or euphemisms used to describe the sort of song I obviously have in mind? |
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26 Sep 09 - 01:07 AM (#2731601) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Janie Ribald? Raunchy? |
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26 Sep 09 - 01:27 AM (#2731611) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Azizi Risque [That's three "r" words, along with "ribald" and "raunchy". And there's another "r" word which also is used-"rude". At least I think that word means what we're talking about when I've seen it used by children, teens, and adults from the UK to describe some risque children's taunts. I don't think that "rude" is used the same way in the United States, at least I haven't found that word to be used that way among African Americans. ** Here's another euphemism to describe those kind of songs or rhymes: "off-color". And children call them "nasty" songs or rhymes Or "bad" songs or rhymes (with "bad" meaning not good and not the Black slang form of "bad" which means "very good".) |
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26 Sep 09 - 01:35 AM (#2731615) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion Interesting, Azizi, that this usage of 'rude' is unfamiliar to American ears. In Britain, 'rude' is probably the most common word for 'unmannerly, ill-mannered' &c. A parent will tell a child that it is very *rude* to push thru a door ahead of someone else, or to fail to offer a seat to a standing lady in a bus or an underground [subway] train, or to put out one's tongue at anyone — RUDE is definitely the word that would spring first to a mother's lips on any such occasion - as well as being quite commonly used to describe the sort of words to the songs we are talking of. And words like 'fuck', 'shit', and so on, are commonly called 'rude words'. And 'Eskimo Nell' is a rude poem & 'The Ball of Kirriemuir' is a rude song. &c &c &c... |
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26 Sep 09 - 01:56 AM (#2731620) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Azizi In the USA, "rude" means "impolite" but impolite means that you don't have good manners-you didn't say "please", "thank you" or "you're welcome" when you should have. Here rude doesn't mean "nasty". For what it's worth, Michael, I don't recognize the two examples that you gave-'Eskimo Nell' and 'The Ball of Kirriemuir'. I suppose they might be found on this forum or elsewhere on the Internet... |
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26 Sep 09 - 02:10 AM (#2731621) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion 'The Ball of Kerriemuir' [spelt, note, slightly differently - the Scotch town is actually called Kirriemuir] is on DT under that title, in letter T for 'The'. Not the exact version I know, but is it ever? — mine starts "There were four-&-twenty virgins came doon frae Inverness, And when the ball was over there were 4-&-20 less". There is much about Eskimo Nell [also on DT] in the "'Naughty' songs by well-known writers" thread [I think I have that name right; something very like that anyhow.] It is a spoof of the sort of poem Robert Service used to write, & much dispute as to whether he actually wrote it to send himself up [which tends to be the US view], or whether it is originally a spoof of British origin of the 'Wild West', which view I tend to. For reasons I give on that thread, backed up by some others who claim to know more of its history, I think Noel Coward is a probable attribution. |
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26 Sep 09 - 02:36 AM (#2731625) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Azizi "Send himself up"? Up where? I believe that's another example of English being a foreign language, unless it's used in Anglo-American English (a language I generally know pretty well, but sometimes colloquialisms some Anglo-Americans use are unfamiliar to me, as I'm sure some African American colloquialisms are unfamilar to some people who aren't Black Americans). I'd appreciate you letting me know what "Send himself up" means. Thanks. |
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26 Sep 09 - 02:59 AM (#2731630) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Jack Blandiver A send-up is a parody; to send oneself up is to self-parody - which can be deliberate (as is the case above) or not, as the case may be! |
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26 Sep 09 - 03:00 AM (#2731631) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion To 'send up' means to parody, or pastiche, or in other ways imitate someone's style in an exaggerated manner for comic effect — as one might say that much of John Gay's 'The Beggar's Opera' [although the phrase would not have been used in the 1720s, being a mid-20c usage, I suspect] was a send-up of the conventions of Handel Opera or Italian opera as sung at the time. Or that many early Disney cartoons were send-ups of musical conventions of the time. Or that many of the plots of Popeye, Bugs·Bunny&Daffy·Duck, &c [& also Charlie Chaplin] were send-ups of Victorian melodrama. So, if Robert Service had written Eskimo Nell in an exaggerated form of his usual style, one would describe him as 'sending himself up'. |
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26 Sep 09 - 03:10 AM (#2731636) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion Many thanks for contributions so far. I am particularly glad to be reminded of 'ribald', a rather delightfully old-fashioned tut-tut tch-tch sort of word; appropriate for, e.g., the contents of D'Urfey's 'Wit & Mirth; or Pills To Purge Melancholy'. Has anyone come across the 'disobliging' use from anyone other than Bert Lloyd, or using it as a conscious influence from him as I tend to use it? I find it rather a charming & whimsical word for the purpose; & wonder if Bert invented it, or if it is some sort of Suffolk dialect [he was a Suffolk man originally]. Always meant to ask him but never got around ... tho how much one could, in view of some recent threads about his habits of invention/adaptation/tradition·claiming, have relied on whatever answer he might have given is open to question. Meanwhile — please keep 'em coming... |
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26 Sep 09 - 03:19 AM (#2731640) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: giles earle how about: smutty or the pretentious and verbose: "displaying a somewhat earthy humour" |
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26 Sep 09 - 04:41 AM (#2731661) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: SharonA MtheGM: In what Azizi refers to as "Anglo-American English" (not a term in common usage in the US), the word "rude" has the meaning she describes as well as the meaning that you describe... except that we would not refer to a bawdy song as a "rude song". We would say that it is rude to sing a bawdy song in the supermarket or at a church social, for example. Sharon (living at the other end of Pennsylvania from Azizi's) |
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26 Sep 09 - 04:46 AM (#2731662) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: gnomad dirty, vulgar, unsavoury, off-colour |
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26 Sep 09 - 05:30 AM (#2731669) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: treewind In the correspondence between Ella Bull (who collected songs from the family servants and other local people in Cottenham just north of Cambridge) and Percy Merrick and Lucy Broadwood she described the words of some of them as "rather coarse" or "unedifying". (this was in about 1905) Anahata |
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26 Sep 09 - 05:36 AM (#2731673) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion Thanks Anahata. I happen to live 5 miles north of Cottenham! |
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26 Sep 09 - 06:00 AM (#2731683) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Leadfingers When I first went SemiPro after escaping from The Service , I had an A5 handout describing me as a purveyor of 'Feelthy' songs |
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26 Sep 09 - 06:37 AM (#2731695) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Immortalia Randy Hash Songs Rugby Songs Burlesque Chap Book Eight page bible The Horn Book
Sincerely, |
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26 Sep 09 - 06:41 AM (#2731698) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Randolph referred to his as "UNPRINTABLE"
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26 Sep 09 - 07:03 AM (#2731704) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: BobKnight Locally we would say "rough" or in Scots "roch" which is the same thing. Another Scots word is "orra," which means unsavoury, or dirty. |
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26 Sep 09 - 07:05 AM (#2731705) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Ross Campbell Blue? Any more info on the "chap book" reference, Gargoyle? In the UK, this would simply be a collection of printed pages, possibly with woodcut or other illustration, stapled or stitched together to form a booklet, distributed in much the same way as broadsheet ballads (and probably by the same peole). i.e., not restricted to bawdry. Ross |
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26 Sep 09 - 07:12 AM (#2731707) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Ross Campbell Haven't come across that meaning of "orra", Bob. The "orra man" on a farm was the guy who picked up all the jobs not assigned to specific farm-servants, who wouldn't normally operate outside their trade. Ross |
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26 Sep 09 - 09:59 AM (#2731755) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: GUEST,Effsee, nae at hame The great Jeannie Robertson used to introduce such songs as containing "a wee threed (thread) o' blue". ;-) |
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26 Sep 09 - 10:34 AM (#2731775) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Azizi Suibhne O'Piobaireachd and MtheGM, thanks for defining that term for me. ** Somewhat off-topic: Sharon, I've started to copy off of the people in California, Arizonia, New Mexico and other Western states in using the term "Anglo" for White people. By extention, "Anglo-American colloquialism" are colloquialisms that are likely to be known by Anglos (White people) in the USA, and may not be as commonly known or as well know among Black people (African Americans). See this Wikipedia page about the term "Anglo-American": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-American Here's an excerpt from that page: "English American, a North American of English heritage, origin, or background Pertaining to Anglo-America, a term denoting an area of mixed English and American influence or heritage, or those parts of or groups within the Americas which have a tie to or which are influenced by England; or simply English-speaking America. The Anglo-American ethnic group, a person who is European American or English Canadian." -snip- However, I have a problem with this part of that definition as it is now given: Anglo-American- "a person who is European American or English Canadian" because there are People of Color who are European American and English Canadian. |
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26 Sep 09 - 10:46 AM (#2731783) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Jack Campin "Clarty" in Scots. (And on the tangential bit of this thread, I don't see why somebody shouldn't be described as both Anglo-American and African American, if they had both English and African ancestry. It's up to the individual which bits of their ancestry matter to them). |
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26 Sep 09 - 11:06 AM (#2731792) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Gibb Sahib crude coarse blue spicy picante/piquant (sp?) slack (this is the Jamaican English term) titillating of prurient interest (just kidding...reminds me of the Dead Kennedys obscenity trial) chatpata (Indian term!) tasty, savory, etc spunky lively x-rated erotic exotic gross indecent inappropriate unexpurgated uncensored adult, adults only red light candid ballsy bold REAL "authentic" (ha ha) art racy filthy saucy salty sinful wicked French off-color colorful unwholesome caliente sordid seedy pornographic |
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26 Sep 09 - 11:34 AM (#2731798) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion What a comprehensive catalogue, Gibb Sahib. Out·of·sight! Can anybody follow THAT? Btw, nobody has responed to my question re 'disobliging' — does anyone else use it, or know it in any context outside the Bert Lloyd influence? I should be most interested to know. Best to all Catters, in entirely prim·&·proper, drawing-room terms - which reminds me, no-one has come up with that fine old gentlemen's-club sort of usage, 'smoking-room'! Michael |
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26 Sep 09 - 12:10 PM (#2731812) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: dick greenhaus Most of us folks that sing 'em jut call 'em dirty. |
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26 Sep 09 - 12:14 PM (#2731815) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion In the immortal words of Lorelei in 'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes' — "Goodness How Sad". |
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26 Sep 09 - 01:03 PM (#2731845) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Lighter Have never heard of "disobliging" in this sense in all my decades on this planet. Sounds like English humor to me. |
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26 Sep 09 - 01:30 PM (#2731858) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Les from Hull The generic term round here would be 'mucky'. But in folk song singarounds they are known as 'nobbing songs'. In fact to us earnest students of the folk song there are only two kinds of song - nobbing songs and non-nobbing songs, although personally I believe there is a sub-category - 'songs of unrequited nobbing'. |
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26 Sep 09 - 01:59 PM (#2731879) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion Are you Kingstonians ever known to enjoin anybody to 'Nob·Off!'? |
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26 Sep 09 - 02:40 PM (#2731909) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: McGrath of Harlow "Anglo-American ethnic group, a person who is European American" - I would have thought that European Americans of non-English descent would be likely to object to the term. |
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26 Sep 09 - 07:27 PM (#2732124) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: McGrath of Harlow "improper" |
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26 Sep 09 - 07:44 PM (#2732130) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Jack Campin The Anglo-American ethnic group, a person who is European American or English Canadian. I think my eyes glazed over at that point. Of course it's offensive to apply that to people with no English ancestry. But why on earth should Canadians get a whole different set of rules? Anyone know what cretin wrote that Wikipedia page? |
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26 Sep 09 - 08:35 PM (#2732152) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: McGrath of Harlow I'd rather assumed that then term "Anglo" was linguistic, and was a way of distinguishing English speakers from Spanish speakers. |
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26 Sep 09 - 10:40 PM (#2732196) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: BobKnight Ross, I know the term "orra man" or "orra loon." My father was a horseman in his younger days, but it can also mean dirty, unsavoury, or disgusting. |
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26 Sep 09 - 10:48 PM (#2732200) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Azizi McGrath, I think that may be how that "Anglo" referent got started. Be that as it may, my point was that it's possible that the saying "send someone up" might be familiar to White Americans but I'm not sure about that, since sometimes White American colloquialisms are unfamiliar to me since I'm not White American. Is it? (known to White Americans?, I mean?) |
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27 Sep 09 - 12:05 AM (#2732228) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Gweltas You can "send someone up" by imitiating/mimicing them (or a characteristic of their personality) by imitating their speech, or mannerisms in an exaggerated manner in order to invite laughter at their expense. If you "send yourself up" you behave in a manner that invites laughter at your own expense. Charlie Chaplin's wonderful send up/satirising of Adolph Hitler in "The Great Dictator" is a classic example of a send up. I have never encountered the term "disobliging" being used in the context of this thread either in Ireland, or here in Cornwall,UK. "Four letter words" are commonly referred to as "rude words" in both Ireland and the UK. Rude is also used as a positive description of a person's appearance such as saying that someone "is looking rudely healthy" (in very good health) Here is my list, and apologies if I've accidentally repeated one from an earlier posting !! Salacious Explicit Obscene Grotty Sleazy Tasteless "Close to the bone" XX |
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27 Sep 09 - 11:47 AM (#2732432) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: McGrath of Harlow I just can't imagine many Irish Americans would appreciate being called "Anglo-Americans". It's bit like the way WASP sometimes seems to get used to refer to people who might be "white", but are neither Anglo-saxons nor Protestants. |
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27 Sep 09 - 12:40 PM (#2732471) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Uncle_DaveO Referring to WASP, I guess I'm a SOPAGA--"Sort-of-Pink American-German Atheist". None of those W-A-S-P letters fit me, and I'll resent it if you call me that. Dave Oesterreich |
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27 Sep 09 - 06:29 PM (#2732715) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Tootler Returning to the original subject of the thread. Last night a song was introduced as "Containing a lot of nautical terms. You can read into the song what you like, but it is a song containing a lot of nautical terms" I leave it to your imagination how those nautical terms could be interpreted [grin] |
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27 Sep 09 - 10:24 PM (#2732855) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion Gr8 example, Tootler, 4 which many thanx. Stand by to go about..... Michael ;>} |
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27 Sep 09 - 11:31 PM (#2732877) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Rowan Last night a song was introduced as "Containing a lot of nautical terms. You can read into the song what you like, but it is a song containing a lot of nautical terms" As when dancing used to be defined (in speech, rather than in writing) as "a naval exchange without loss of seamen". Many of the songs MtheGM's asking about would be regarded as "rude, crude and unattractive", to use a term current where I am (Oz) and many could also be described as politically incorrect. Being known to be coarse at times, I was asked by Budgie to join his workshop on Filthy songs and recitations at the National last Easter but, although my intentions were honourably dishonourable, illness caused me to dishonour my promise to contribute. But it was a great workshop. Cheers, Rowan |
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28 Sep 09 - 01:39 AM (#2732904) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion Noted, Rowan: thanks. You will find that I too rejoice in the 'naval engagement' line & have contrib'd it recently to the below-line thread on 2-line Jokes, inspired to do so by thread on "What You Dance To'.. This Budgie - who he? I ask becoz I used to know a guy by that name in Cambridge, England, nearly 40 years ago, who specialised in 'disobliging' songs & used sometimes to distress some of the more delicately·nurtured at a folk club I ran there at the time. he became a policeman, I recall, in which capacity I met him once at a Cambridge Folk Festival in the 1970s, since when have lost touch with him. Could by any chance be same guy, I wonder? |
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28 Sep 09 - 07:47 AM (#2733047) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Tim Leaning Near to the Knuckle ? disolute |
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28 Sep 09 - 07:48 AM (#2733048) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Tim Leaning Nice. |
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28 Sep 09 - 08:06 AM (#2733061) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Tug the Cox A young folk singer walked into a bar, and asked for a double entendre......so the barman gave her one. |
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28 Sep 09 - 09:49 AM (#2733138) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Azizi "Lewd" is another word that has the same meaning as "bawdy". I don't think that word had been posted. |
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28 Sep 09 - 02:03 PM (#2733356) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Good Call Az - Training up one of the boys the letters RCLwas a code word we developed for being "too Dutch" for "American sensibilities."
It clued him in to cultural differences without public embarassment.
The Dutch are very "open" and the letters indicated to the lad that he was being too:
Sincerely, |
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28 Sep 09 - 06:36 PM (#2733601) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Rowan G'day, MtheGM. Budgie is the Mudcat nom de plume of Warren Fahey, who is a major contributor in the Oz folk scene. You'd have to ask him whether he ever used that moniker in Britain. Cheers, Rowan |
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28 Sep 09 - 11:06 PM (#2733760) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Gibb Sahib Rabelaisian |
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28 Sep 09 - 11:19 PM (#2733763) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion Rowan — no, not same guy. Just coincidence that 2 'disobligers' the width of the whole world apart should have shared a nickname. But very many thanks for response. And g'day right back to you. Gibb — yes, 'Rabelaisian. a most valued contribution indeed. |
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29 Sep 09 - 03:30 PM (#2734378) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: McGrath of Harlow dodgy |
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29 Sep 09 - 06:11 PM (#2734546) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Steve Gardham Currently being mentioned on other threads and about to be published. Peter Buchan's mss at Harvard titled 'Secret Songs of Silence' calls them 'High-kilted'. This is in early 19thc NE Scotland. I'm guessing here but I'd say 'high-kilted' refers to what might become visible if one wore one's kilt too high. In publishing/collecting/scholarly circles the most common term used is 'bawdy'. Others include...Barrack-room ballads...Locker-room...merry muses....dirty ditties....vulgar verse....poetica erotica...common muse. In Britain the most basic ones would generally be known as 'rugby songs' as they were perceived by most to have been the domain of rugby players sung in the bath and the bar after the match. In reality they were mainly the province of schoolboys and the armed forces. |
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29 Sep 09 - 09:58 PM (#2734667) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: meself I believe it is in To the Lighthouse that Virginia Woolf mentions two sailors "laughing at a joke that was not at all proper". Has anyone mentioned the term "bathroom humour"? It's gone out of vogue, but I think it's time we brought it back .... On another matter - in Canada, "Anglo" is usually encountered as a linguistic descriptor - anyone English-speaking, or English-speakers collectively, may be characterised as "Anglo" (or, more properly but more syllabic, "Anglophone"). |
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29 Sep 09 - 10:13 PM (#2734673) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion Another thread has just reminded me, in a different euphemiistic [mis]application of a nautical term, of use in this context of "Close to the wind". |
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30 Sep 09 - 10:43 AM (#2734991) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Azizi Has anyone posted the euphemism "indelicate nature"? That phrase is used in this comment that I happened upon while searching for something else: "The Old She-Crab Notes: This is one of the oldest of English language traditional ballads. F.J. Child deliberately excluded it from his canonical ESPB, presumably because of its indelicate nature. - EC" from The Traditional Ballad Index as quoted in this post by masato sakurai in thread.cfm?threadid=15048#738965 "Mr Radalum?" |
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01 Oct 09 - 05:58 PM (#2736180) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Gibb Sahib Already mentioned indirectly by Michael, another just came to mind, as it is a phrase Stan Hugill used a bit for shanties: "non-drawing room verses" or "non-drawing room version". |
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01 Oct 09 - 09:20 PM (#2736313) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Charley Noble Azizi, I do like the term "indelicate" for describing these old songs. In fact why not describe them as "indelicate aires." Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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01 Oct 09 - 09:57 PM (#2736328) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Azizi Well, my ears are much too delicate to hear all the smutty sounds that abound here, there, and everywhere. But some of those sounds...maybe. ;o) |
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02 Oct 09 - 01:35 AM (#2736392) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: MGM·Lion So, Charley, in the anonymous words [almost] of Arne Jnr's well-known song, whom have you in mind as "the lass with the indelicate aire"? Or are you too gentlemanly to say: a gentleman, as Bertie Wooster never tired of saying, being one who would never bandy a lady's name. |
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02 Oct 09 - 02:16 AM (#2736407) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Tim Leaning Unexpurgated |
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02 Oct 09 - 02:16 AM (#2736408) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Tim Leaning After the watershed. |
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02 Oct 09 - 08:02 AM (#2736540) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: manitas_at_work Rabelaisian? |
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02 Oct 09 - 08:37 AM (#2736558) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Charley Noble MytheGM- I think it was from an early Josh White recording that I heard the song "The Lass with the Delicate Aire." Good catch! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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02 Oct 09 - 06:54 PM (#2736982) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego I heard Jesse (Lone Cat) Fuller once opine that a particularly graphic verse was "some baaad boogy!" |
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02 Oct 09 - 08:41 PM (#2737044) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Genie How about just "songs of lechery and debauchery?" |
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02 Oct 09 - 09:22 PM (#2737059) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Ross Campbell Lubricious - search box above gives several references in the threads. Ross |
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06 Oct 09 - 06:42 PM (#2739995) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Diva Well in the bothy this year at Cullerlie Danny Couper was calling them love songs! |
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06 Oct 09 - 11:24 PM (#2740150) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: Bert Ah! I love those songs. all of them from the mildly suggestive to the downright disgusting. |
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06 Oct 09 - 11:56 PM (#2740166) Subject: RE: 'naughty'; 'bawdy' - what else? From: meself ignorant |