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06 Oct 09 - 07:08 AM (#2739447) Subject: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Looking for lyrics to 'The Lunatick Lover' I stumbled on this online archive. Utterly enticing facsimiles of the original broadsides, along with modern recordings of the songs. I'm sure there's loads of stuff out there online like this, but thought it might be worth sharing. English Broadside Ballad Archive |
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06 Oct 09 - 07:12 AM (#2739448) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Oops, linked to one of the pages in the site. Homepage here: English Broadside Ballad Archive. HOMEPAGE |
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06 Oct 09 - 08:01 AM (#2739480) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Ross Campbell Great find, CS. Sung versions I've tried sound good. The thoroughness of this project is staggering. Ross |
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06 Oct 09 - 08:29 AM (#2739494) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) I like the sung versions too. None of that 'early music voice' stuff going on. No idea if any of the other online ballad resources have sung recordings like this, but I haven't seen any. After having scanned a few, I loved this - though think I'd have to drop a few verses to sing it myself: I Smell a Rat (fascimile transcription) |
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06 Oct 09 - 08:30 AM (#2739498) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Richard Bridge Wonderful. Why is there no English equivalent? |
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06 Oct 09 - 08:40 AM (#2739500) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Valmai Goodyear An excellent resource. Many thanks for airing it. Valmai |
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06 Oct 09 - 11:50 AM (#2739646) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Art Thieme Yes, thank you from over here. Art Thieme Peru (Illinois) |
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06 Oct 09 - 11:55 AM (#2739648) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: theleveller "Why is there no English equivalent?" The Bodleian Ballad archive is pretty interesting. bodleian ballad archive |
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06 Oct 09 - 12:22 PM (#2739666) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: IanC Excellent. This is obviously a collaboration because the originals of the Pepys collection are stored in Cambridge (UK). Presumably these people managed to get the funding and Cambridge has allowed them to do it. On the internet it doesn't matter where they're stored. I know that Cambridge was having some trouble with doing what Oxford did with the Bodleian collection. Here's the quote from the site: "The EMC is proud to announce that it has won a 2nd National Endowment for the Humanities Grant of $350,000 for 2008-2010 to expand its online English Broadside Ballads Archive to include the Roxburghe Ballads held by the British Library. EBBA is currently nearing completion of its digitization of the Pepys Ballads held by Magdalene College, Cambridge, which was also funded by an NEH grant (for 2006-2008)." :-) |
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06 Oct 09 - 12:39 PM (#2739679) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Ross Campbell Mudcat thread Help: Melodies to Broadside Ballads has more (and more links at the top of the thread). I found that thread via a series of apparently random, but obviously guided choices. The Shallow Brown thread currently in the forum has a contribution from "Rev". Co-incidentally, Revell Scott was the name of the singer on the first song I linked to above. Clicking on "Rev" produced archived contributions including the above Melodies to Broadside Ballads thread. Are "Rev" and Revell Scott one and the same? Ross |
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06 Oct 09 - 12:49 PM (#2739689) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Gibb Sahib It makes me proud that's at my university. :) The English department people mostly have put together the texts, while a few ethnomusicologist friends of mine have been in charge of getting recorded samples. It is such a huge undertaking, that they have gone about the very practical approach of having "regular people" just sing them. There is SO much material, I believe the goal is just to get some sort of recorded rendition in existence, so that ballad scholars might have tune matched with text. To this end, classes on broadside ballads were taught, and the students in those were recruited to record. Other interested parties were recruited, too. I recorded around 16 of them, maybe, though I must admit they were pretty poor -- the time issue, you see, and not being able to really study the material beforehand. Finally, the directors of that aspect of the project (whom I won't name here, but who will be credited on the site) generously gave their time to pound out better renditions of many many ballads. To give an idea of the quick 'n' dirty process (in my case, at least), I was given a set of broadsides on all of which was indicated that they were sung to such 'n' such air. The melody of the air was given separately. It was challenging trying to match the verse to the melody; sometimes it didn't work very well. Pronunciation was a big issue, too, but one that we could not really spend time on. |
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06 Oct 09 - 12:53 PM (#2739692) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Gibb Sahib Ross, "Rev" Carr was one of the dedicated scholars, aforementioned, that was once in charge of arranging recordings of the Pepys ballads here. |
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06 Oct 09 - 01:20 PM (#2739712) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Thanks for the fascinating insides Gibb. "To this end, classes on broadside ballads were taught, and the students in those were recruited to record. Other interested parties were recruited, too." I'd absolutely *love* the opportunity to immerse myself in a practical learning experience like that! And yes, I've heard people say that fitting the ballad to the tune can be quite a feat of vocal acrobatics! No 'folk process' to shave off those inconvenient extra syllables with printed ballads.. |
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06 Oct 09 - 01:26 PM (#2739717) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: treewind "Why is there no English equivalent?" There is, at the Oxford Bodleian Library web site. Not only that, but the Bod. works, whereas we just tried four titles on the UCSB site and it couldn't find any of them Anahata |
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06 Oct 09 - 01:39 PM (#2739735) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Q (Frank Staplin) This archive is a work in progress, so far devoted to Pepys collection. Like the NLS (National Library of Scotland) broadsides, it would serve no purpose as a duplication of the Bodleian Collection. |
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06 Oct 09 - 02:07 PM (#2739759) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) They say they plan to have EVERY ballad with a known tune, recorded and archived on-line. About a thousand of them.. I found the site extremely user friendly, no probs with accessing anything so far. |
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06 Oct 09 - 05:19 PM (#2739928) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Richard Bridge The Bod I think surely only has words |
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06 Oct 09 - 06:16 PM (#2739972) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Diva I was lucky enough to study Broadside Ballads while at Glasgow University and the Murray Collection was digitised. |
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07 Oct 09 - 04:03 AM (#2740210) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Jack Blandiver The Bod I think surely only has words And the pics! I often find the graphics to be of greater interest than the ballads themselves - a treasured archive of the vernacular woodcut! Thanks for this, CS. Couldn't find a general index though, which makes it odd for inveterate browsers such as myself. |
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07 Oct 09 - 04:10 AM (#2740213) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Jack Blandiver Just figured how to do this through browsing the individual categories. That should keep me busy for the rest of the year & beyond... |
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07 Oct 09 - 05:10 AM (#2740248) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Yeah the woodcuts are topper! And if you're a researcher the search function at Bodlian site is very thorough. Otherwise, I just love this Mad-merry prankes of Robbin Good-fellow (facimile transcription) ..mainly for all the farting. |
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07 Oct 09 - 05:43 AM (#2740256) Subject: RE: English Broadside Ballad Archive From: Jack Blandiver Love it - the second prat indeed. |