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16 Nov 09 - 12:37 PM (#2767063) Subject: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Somebody took this video last week and Mitch (the guy in the black hat) put it on Facebook. I'm playing the Dylan song. I figured some of you who've been talking to me for years here but never met me might enjoy seeing it. Click the link. Little Hawk plays Dylan Others were playing along some too, as you can see. You can hear Bryan Sutton's concertina in the mix here and there. I'm playing my favorite Martin D-28. It has a big voice, that guitar. |
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16 Nov 09 - 12:48 PM (#2767071) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: katlaughing Better than Dylan...I can understand the words!:-) Great job and, yes! It is wonderful to *see* and *hear* you live on camera, too! Thanks for letting us know. kat |
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16 Nov 09 - 03:27 PM (#2767219) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Nick Haven't got a facebook account - ah well |
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16 Nov 09 - 03:35 PM (#2767228) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Beer I dropped mine as well. But good for you L.H. Beer (adrien) |
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16 Nov 09 - 03:39 PM (#2767236) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Well, maybe I can talk to Mitch and see if we can put it on Youtube. |
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16 Nov 09 - 03:48 PM (#2767247) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Genie That'd be cool, Hawk. I loved the FaceBook video -- Kat got it right! -- but maybe on YT the pic would be a bit bigger. And you could share it with the world! Genie |
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16 Nov 09 - 03:49 PM (#2767250) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Thanks. I'll be seeing Mitch on Friday and I'll see what we can do to put it on Youtube. |
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16 Nov 09 - 03:53 PM (#2767259) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: VirginiaTam Yes please, put on Youtube. Proper sized screen and should be better sound too. I echo Kat. I can understand what you are singing. I have guitar envy. |
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16 Nov 09 - 04:17 PM (#2767277) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: My guru always said Would love to see it on YouTube!!! |
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16 Nov 09 - 04:26 PM (#2767286) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Charley Noble Looks and sounds as if you're having fun! So Dylan sold all those arrangements from you? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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16 Nov 09 - 04:26 PM (#2767288) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Charley Noble "stole" not "sold" Charley |
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16 Nov 09 - 04:36 PM (#2767297) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Well... ;-) I think of Bob as my older brother. I doubt that he thinks of me at all. However, he is welcome to steal any of my arrangements if he wants to, but he can't have Winona! |
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16 Nov 09 - 07:22 PM (#2767410) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Bobert Looks like I'll have to get a facebook account when time and patience allow... |
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16 Nov 09 - 07:55 PM (#2767423) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: JennieG Terrific! as has already been said, I can understand the lyrics......makes a change with a Dylan song....... Cheers JennieG |
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16 Nov 09 - 07:59 PM (#2767427) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Janie Very nice, LH! Janie |
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16 Nov 09 - 08:38 PM (#2767454) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: GUEST It's been far too long since I heard you play, LH. I am looking forward to seeing it on Youtube. Edmund |
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16 Nov 09 - 08:56 PM (#2767463) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: GUEST,olddude It is perfect in everyway, better than Dylan IMO great job |
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16 Nov 09 - 10:25 PM (#2767499) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: WFDU - Ron Olesko I really, really liked that. You have a nice voice and you really made that song your own! I love your harmonic playing too! Nice job!!! |
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16 Nov 09 - 10:37 PM (#2767505) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Thanks very much. I love playing those Dylan songs. They "bring it all back home" for me. |
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16 Nov 09 - 10:41 PM (#2767507) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Don Firth Little Hawk, I don't have a facebook account either (nor do I plan to get one), but I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing you on YouTube. Maybe the reason I've never been as thrilled with Dylan as many other people seem to be is that, half the time, I can't make out a lot of the words he's singing (very "folky!"). Now, if I can understand the words. . . . Anyway, I'll have my hands hovering over my keyboard and my ears flappin'. Don Firth |
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16 Nov 09 - 11:11 PM (#2767518) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk I think when Dylan was doing the early stuff, folk-style, every word he sang was crystal clear. Videos of his acoustic performances at Newport and elsewhere in '63, '64, and '65 will back me up on that. When he started doing the electric music with a backup band then, yes, the words got a lot harder to hear amidst all the instrumental noise, and that was part of what his folk audience was objecting to. In my case I like Dylan's lyrics so much that I pretty well always know them in advance anyway from listening to the records, so no matter how loud the band gets in a live performance, I can still follow Dylan's words, but it may have been quite frustrating for an audience that didn't know the lyrics that well. His diction got less clear in the 80's and from that point on I'd say, right up to the present, but that also depends on the night. In some concerts he is much clearer and easier to make out than in others. Be that as it may, I saw some marvelous Dylan shows in the 80's. By the early 90's his voice was clearly deteriorating. The last show I saw, about 3 years ago, the music was great but his voice was a shadow of what it once had been. |
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16 Nov 09 - 11:16 PM (#2767521) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Good points Little Hawk. His voice really never bothered me since the words were so good. I think what he has done in recent years is very exciting, his band is very tight and works to his strengths. He puts on a damn fine show. People used to say the same thing about Lead Belly. His diction wasn't clear and many of the recordings that we hear were poorly recorded. Yet the man was clearly a genius and a huge influence. Somebody got it! I'd love to hear more of your music, keep it up! While it is clear that Dylan has infuenced you, I detect your own personality coming through and your arrangements, while close, are clearly your own. |
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16 Nov 09 - 11:44 PM (#2767530) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Yeah, I don't try to directly imitate Bob or copy his style in an exact way, I just do the songs my own way...but I'm often inspired by the way he does it. He flatpicks a lot, and I'm useless with a flatpick, so I use my thumbnail for the alternating base and my fingernails for picking or strumming. I sort of combine Carter picking, Travis picking, and various other fingerpicking patterns, depending on the song. It would be nice to get comfortable with the flatpick too, but I don't think I'll manage that in this lifetime. ;-) |
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17 Nov 09 - 01:01 AM (#2767541) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Lonesome EJ George (George?!) you sound great, like Steve Goodman and Bob Dylan mixed together, in a good way. Come to The Getaway next year and show us the rest of your repertoire. |
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17 Nov 09 - 08:26 AM (#2767662) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Genie Amen to that idea, Ernie! |
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17 Nov 09 - 09:10 AM (#2767684) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: bfdk Sounds great, but where's the dachshund choir? ;-) |
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17 Nov 09 - 12:08 PM (#2767790) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: alanabit It's come out well. A good clear voice and some nice harmonica playing. |
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17 Nov 09 - 01:32 PM (#2767839) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk I really should have brought the Dachshund choir. A serious oversight! Nothing adds spice to a song like a nice tight group of Dachshunds howling mournfully along on the choruses and scatting on the instrumental breaks. By "tight", I mean you give them each a little shot glass of schnapps just before the performance begins. That really brings out the Caruso in them. ;-) More than anything else, they LOVE harmonica music and will howl along with gusto. Here's a nice video of a Dachshund singing along with harmonica. As you can see, he really likes it. Note the wagging tail. |
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17 Nov 09 - 01:33 PM (#2767843) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Oops. Sorry. I forgot to make the link: Dachshund sings with harmonica |
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17 Nov 09 - 02:08 PM (#2767873) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Murray MacLeod excellent performance, LH. I am intrigued by the reference to Bryan Sutton on concertina. His face is obscured by the black hat, but that can't be the Bryan Sutton, surely ? |
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17 Nov 09 - 03:50 PM (#2767947) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Ummm...I don't know. Who is the Bryan Sutton? This Bryan Sutton is an old friend of mine who lives in the Orillia, Ontario, Canada area. He's a longtime folkie from Scotland, must be around age 70 or thereabouts, plays concertina and sings a capella also, mostly old trad songs from the British Isles. He's a tall, thin man with a beard that is trimmed fairly short. Bryan's a good source of info on trad songs and he certainly has a great appreciation for that whole field of musical history. |
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17 Nov 09 - 04:00 PM (#2767954) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: black walnut Wonderful. And you're Canadian too, eh? Me too, and I had a Dachshund named Herman...there's nothing sweeter than a Dachshund howling (and nothing rottener than a Dachshund rolling in poison ivy, but that's another story). ~b.w. |
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17 Nov 09 - 04:07 PM (#2767960) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Well, a Dachshund that has rolled in fresh manure and week-old roadkill can be pretty awful too...(yet another story). They are ever on the lookout for new and more intense sensory experiences of that sort. ;-) |
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17 Nov 09 - 04:45 PM (#2767987) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: black walnut Ah, yes. You are bringing back lovely memories. We lived next to a cow field...I totally understand what you are saying. We also lived where they would oil the gravel roads on occasion - and guess who would walk into the house with oil on his paws? Oh, and the fact that his tail would "wear out" from wagging it and he would get blood streaks at about 6 " off the ground on all walls of the house. And then there was the chewing of my mother's nightgowns hanging on the line... But I loved him with all my heart. ~b.w. |
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17 Nov 09 - 05:20 PM (#2767997) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk They are all difficult in some respect, but still lovable. |
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17 Nov 09 - 05:22 PM (#2767998) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: black walnut Yes...(and I won't brag about how mine won the dog food eating contest for all dog size categories - including the labs and dobermans - at the local fair!). Now, back to your thread. I would love to hear you live someday, L.H. Do you ever come to the Goderich Celtic College or Festival? ~b.w. |
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17 Nov 09 - 05:30 PM (#2768002) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: GUEST,olddude It is wonderful George, now how about sharing an original for us ... you are very talented, love the voice and the guitar work .. more please Dan |
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17 Nov 09 - 05:34 PM (#2768006) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Ebbie Nice job, Little Hawk. Buddy Tabor of Juneau, Alaska, is also a great fan of Bob Dylan- I really didn't know much Dylan so I wasn't much of a fan until I met Buddy some 20 years ago. Nowadays when Buddy sings a song new to me and it is a memorable one, it's usually safe to guess it's a Dylan song. Or a Townes or a Cohen, but most often it's Dylan. What amazes me about Bob Dylan is his variety of subjects and styles. |
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17 Nov 09 - 06:33 PM (#2768049) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Leonard Cohen is as good as it gets when it comes to songwriting. He's absolutely classic. So is Gord Lightfoot. So is Dylan. But they all have their own unique ways of doing it. I've heard about the Goderich Celtic College, but never went to it. Maybe one of these days. Same for the Mudcat Getaway. I have some Buddy Tabor stuff here that I haven't listened to in a long time. Thanks for the reminder. |
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17 Nov 09 - 07:05 PM (#2768064) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: flattop I wrote several years ago that I think that some of Little Hawk's original songs are better than Dylan's. (And I'm a Dylan fan.) It's a shame that it has taken this long for most mudcaters to hear him sing. It's also too bad that mudcattters can't hear a few of his original songs like Summer's Gone. I'd like to see this video but don't have a facebook account. I was waiting for someone to come out with arseBook or another social networking site that I could comfortably join. Little Hawk forgot to mention that Bryan Sutton is also an electronics engineer (if I remember correctly). |
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17 Nov 09 - 07:44 PM (#2768088) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Murray MacLeod just to answer LH's query about whom I was referring to as the Bryan Sutton, well, this is he |
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17 Nov 09 - 08:03 PM (#2768098) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: flattop You got a different Bryan Sutton than the concertina player in the Orillia Folk Society. |
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17 Nov 09 - 08:36 PM (#2768114) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: frogprince Kudos, L.H.; Kinda wish I could hear it on something better than these rinky computer speakers, but I really did enjoy it. Dean |
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18 Nov 09 - 02:22 AM (#2768209) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Hey! Flattop. Man, I've been wondering where you were (in a general sense). "Summer's Gone" remains a favorite of mine for sure. Another one you liked was "Little Crow Woman". I have to dust that one off...haven't played it in at least 5 years, I think. "Arsebook" sounds like an inspired idea to me. You should see if you can get it started. ;-D I'm pleased to find out about the other Bryan Sutton, the bluegrass flatpicker. Have just been listening to him on the link that Murray MacLeod posted, and he's a superb flatpicker. Wow. I was hanging out with the local Bryan Sutton (the concertina guy) and some other pickers tonight at the usual Tuesday night thing. I asked Bryan if he was THE Bryan Sutton, and he said, "Of course" with a droll look on his face. ;-) Johnny Ashe knew right away about the Bryan Sutton in the link, because he knows a lot about those bluegrass guys. |
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18 Nov 09 - 03:20 AM (#2768224) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: GUEST I am a good friend of Little Hawk's Bryan Sutton, and I do take exception to Murray's somewhat offhand dismissal of him as "some other" BS and not the "real" one. I did in fact transcribe the wonderful guitar playing of Murray's BS (for Homespun, so you can check out its accuracy Murray!), but for me the original and real Bryan Sutton is the English concertina player now from Ontario. Little Hawk, please say hello to him from me - he's even older than I am, and I haven't seen him for a good few years. And LH, sorry I can't catch your video clip, but I have so far refused to join Facebook and one can't even get in with a direct link (as one sometimes can, it seems, on MySpace). |
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18 Nov 09 - 05:11 AM (#2768259) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Mr Happy Is it on YTube yet? |
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18 Nov 09 - 09:19 AM (#2768381) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Bobert Now ya' got the ol' hillbilly all confuzerated.... I thought that I once checked out a pic here in the piccure gallery of LH and he weren't no skinny young guy with a Dylanish fro??? What am I missin' here??? B~ p.s/ BTW, I went ahead and set up a Face(less)book account... Found a few high school chums, too... Added them to friends... Hope they don't be sniffin' 'round the holler lookin' fir me now that I got a Face(less)book account 'er if they do they ain't lookin' fir no place to crash or to borrow my car 'er nuthin'... The P-Vine says that there is some creepy peoples out there... |
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18 Nov 09 - 10:40 AM (#2768430) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Hey, Bobert, I am skinny...but I ain't young. (sigh) Kinda wish I was, though. I'm just pretty good at preserving the youthful appearance for some reason. I'm probably about the same age you are, I figure. Anyway, yeah, that's me...the skinny guy with the Dylanish hairdo. I had really no interest in Facebook. Got into it 2 or 3 years ago because a friend suggested it, and then I hardly ever even looked at it. Now the music thing comes along with Mitch, and I've got a little more happening on Facebook than before. What's Myspace like? I've noticed that musicians seem to favor that site. GUEST - Yeah, sure, I'll pass along your greetings to Bryan...but who should I say they're from? |
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18 Nov 09 - 12:07 PM (#2768480) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Nick Enjoyable listen. I hope this isn't a terrible thing to say but I think it would have sounded as good without the other players who I don't think added a vast amount. |
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18 Nov 09 - 02:28 PM (#2768591) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Don Firth As I said, I don't have a Facebook account and I don't intend to get one. An out-of-town friend talked my wife into getting one, but she found it a bit of a hassle and there was nothing she wanted to do on Facebook that she couldn't do with e-mail or on the telephone, so she dumped it. Apparently a lot of musicians use MySpace. I'm going to have to ask my upstairs neighbor, Misty Weaver, about the details of setting up a MySpace site. She's a singer/songwriter and has recently issued a CD of her songs; she thinks of them as "folk songs," but—well—they are interesting, and a bit different. Misty's page. I bought a copy of her CD in the spirit of "support your local musician." As much as Dylan doesn't ring my chimes, I have to give him credit for being one helluva songwriter, and, indeed, he didn't really turn into a mush-mouth until a bit later in his career (unfortunately, Emmylou Harris seems to be suffering from the same condition; as lovely as her voice is, she swallows her consonants and you can't understand half of the lyrics she sings). I think what turned me off about Dylan was that— Well, let's put it this way: When I first began learning and singing folk songs, my mentors and examples (both live and on records) never tried to sound like anything they were not. And a few years after I got started, even the Brothers Four didn't try to sound like anything other than four college boys. Joan Baez has a very nice, clear soprano, and she uses it. Richard Dyer-Bennet was cultured, well-educated, and an offspring of the English peerage and he sounded like it. Woody Guthrie and Lead Belly sounded the most "folky," but they came by it honestly. Then—along came Bob Dylan (real name, Zimmerman). People who went to high school with him said that before folk, he was singing rock, and he had a nice, clear singing voice that sounded, naturally, a bit like Buddy Holly's. A few years later, when they heard his first folk records, his voice was entirely different, sounding as if he had just been dug out of a potato patch and was about eighty years old. That much of a natural change was simply not possible unless he had taken to gargling with Drano. And in interviews, he came up with a completely bogus history, often contradictory, about how he was a migrant worker following the crops, had spent years hopping freights (remember, he wasn't even twenty yet), and who, in general, seemed to be deluded into thinking that he was Woody Guthrie. My "Phony Meter" pegged out. After Dylan came along, suddenly, I kept running into people (lots of college drop-outs) showing up in coffeehouses and folk festivals with expensive guitars, but wearing bib overalls, interweaving straw in their hair, at least one tooth blacked out, and a singing voice carefully cultivated to be raspy, slightly off-key, and with an impenetrable phony Southern or "Okie" accent they apparently got by studying re-runs of "Hee Haw" and "The Beverly Hillbillies." By the way, it's not as if they were trying to play a part (like The New Lost City Ramblers, who did it well and with great humor), they were trying to convince the not-all-that-impressed audiences (and, perhaps, themselves) that that's what they really were, even when they had rarely been outside the city limits. Also, read what Dave Van Ronk says about Dylan in "The Mayor of McDougal Street." Van Ronk doesn't particularly bad-mouth him, he just tells what happened. Everything Van Ronk says about Dylan I've also heard from other sources. Dylan "borrowed" from everyone, which is perfectly okay. Everybody learns most of the songs they sing from other singers, either in person or on record, and they often copy arrangements, but Dylan started claiming that some of the songs he learned from others (including Van Ronk) he had written and/or arranged himself! So, on that basis, I don't have a very good impression of Dylan. I am, however, waiting for Suze Rotolo's "A Freewheelin' Time," which I have on hold at the Seattle Public Library. Maybe she tells a different story or takes a different slant on it. I hope you can get your stuff up on YouTube, Little Hawk. I'm most interested in hearing you at work. Maybe you are what Dylan could have been if he'd been a bit more real. Don Firth |
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18 Nov 09 - 03:25 PM (#2768636) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Murray MacLeod now then, excuse me, I never did dismiss Bryan Sutton as "some other", it's just a fact of life that Bryan Sutton the flatpicker is the one who would spring to the mind of most folkies if you asked them "have you ever heard Bryan Sutton ?" I am quite sure that LH's Bryan Sutton is a superb musician and general all-round good guy. hell, I know what it's like not to be the Murray Macleod. That distinction belongs to a West Coast musician who played with Loggins and Messina, and had a hit with Sunshine Girl in 1967. But I don't feel diminished in any way, and I'm sure LH's Bryan Sutton doesn't feel diminished either. Get that video up on Youtube, LH. |
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18 Nov 09 - 03:38 PM (#2768643) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Thanks, Don. When Bob Dylan was young he was a big fan of various singers and he imitated their styles for a time. First was Hank Williams, then Buddy Holly and Little Richard, then he got into the old black acoustic blues players in a big way, then he went nuts on Woody Guthrie. And with each phase he modified his own singing style to imitate those people. This is something that enthusiastic young musicians often do, so it's not surprising to me that Dylan did it, but he moved more rapidly from one phase to the next than most people do. All that bizarre stuff he invented about his supposed Woody-Guthrie like roaming years on the road in places like Gallup, New Mexico, etc....well, it's amusing in retrospect. ;-) He clearly wanted to be someone like Woody Guthrie, not just a nice Jewish kid, son of a small storekeeper from a small town, who had lived a middle class life and gone to high school. I can understand how the romance of it all appealed to him when he made up those wild stories. Most people wouldn't have the nerve to carry it off the way he did...I'd say he was very focused on what he wanted to do. The saving grace to it all is that he soon matured into something uniquely his own. I'd say that that was already happening by the time he did the "Freewheelin'" album, but it reached full fruition by the time he recorded "Bringing It All Back Home" in 1965, by which time he was writing and performing absolutely unprecedented material which was entirely his own in every sense and unlike anything that had preceded it. I can forgive him the youthful fakery while he was finding his way. ;-) It led to good things farther down the road. You can't get away with made-up stuff like that for long now, because information is so easy to investigate and verify through the Net and so on. It was very different in those days...a much more innocent and free-wheeling time. |
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18 Nov 09 - 04:29 PM (#2768695) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Lonesome EJ Kind of makes you wonder who is influencing his voice now...the Crypt Keeper? I thought he was a terrible singer back when Freewheelin' came out, but today, listening from where I am now, I think he sang very well. And his singing influence was and is enormous: Roger McGuinn, Tom Petty, Mark Knopfler, Adam Duritz, and thousands more. |
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19 Nov 09 - 04:06 AM (#2769007) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Monique No YouTube yet? |
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19 Nov 09 - 03:14 PM (#2769361) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Don Firth I think Little Hawk said he would be "seeing Mitch on Friday," so I didn't really expected it to be up quite yet. But like the cat who ate the cheese and sat breathing into the mouse hole, "I wait with baited breath. . . ." Don Firth |
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19 Nov 09 - 03:51 PM (#2769388) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Anglo Sorry again, my "guest" post above was intended to come from me - cookie monster at it again! And yes Murray, Bryan is a really nice man, though not what I would consider a "superb musician." At least he wasn't the last time I saw him. I'm glad he's still playing the concertina though. LH, why not just put your video on YouTube, then we can all watch it and be suitably amazed? |
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19 Nov 09 - 05:16 PM (#2769424) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Donuel I never suspected you were really Bob Dylan. Oh well, it seems believable now. Now if I only had a facebook account I could find out what you look like and if you are male of female, white or black, Human or simian. |
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19 Nov 09 - 06:41 PM (#2769470) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Bobert Well, okay. LH... All that hair yers??? Man, you must have some good genies to have that much hair and have it all dark an all... But nevermind that... Facebook done got me in a heap o' trouble... Ya' see there were lotta folks all lined up there jus' waitin', you know, like a surprise party, fir me to stumble in there and they all wanted to be my friend... Well, I din't want to hurt nobody's feelings so I just said, "okay" and hit the "okay button" and next thing ya know I got hunnerts of people wanta be my friend... Most of these folks I don't have a clue about... One gal even showed up wearing just a bra??? Like what's that about, LH??? What, is she modest, 'er somethin'??? But nevermind that either... I din't hit the "okay button" on her so if ya' run into a woman just wearing a bra an' she seems upset then please don't tell her that you know me... But anyway, I liked yer Dylan song... I don't remember ever doing that one but I might have seein' as there was a time when half the songs I did were Dylan songs but that was a long time ago... I still do a couple tho... Maybe three but not four... Opps... My email machine has just dinged... More friends waitin' at the door that want in... B~ |
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19 Nov 09 - 07:31 PM (#2769502) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk I get "friend" requests all the time on Facebook too, Bobert, and I'm looking at them and thinking "Who the hell is this???"... I confirm the ones where I can figure out who the hell it is (and if I want to deal with them in future) and the others go unanswered. I haven't seen the girl with just the bra on, but I did get a request today from some girl whose picture is her hind end (in tight jeans) and her bare back. Maybe it's the same girl? ;-) I have no idea why she's contacting me. I have a lot of gray (make that white) hairs coming in, but they're sorta sprinkled around amongst the brown ones, so you have to get up close to see them. Donuel - I'm male, white, and human. Sort of thin, look kind of like Bob Dylan in the late 70's or early 80's (but a bit taller). Some have said I look a bit like George Harrison too, but no mustache or facial hair. |
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19 Nov 09 - 07:33 PM (#2769503) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: kendall LH, I must say I'm surprised to see you in person. I had pictured you as considerably older because you are very wise, in my not so humble opinion. Good job on the Dylan song. I'm not a fan of Dylans, but it looked ok to me. |
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19 Nov 09 - 07:43 PM (#2769511) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Thanks, kendall. ;-) I picture myself as older too...sometimes. Then there are those moments when I feel about 30. It depends on the weather or something like that. I could use some more sunny days around here, that's for sure. I will definitely see about getting some stuff on Youtube soon. |
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19 Nov 09 - 11:22 PM (#2769590) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Martha Burns Loved the video of 'My Singing Dachshund." Thanks for that, Little Hawk. Very enthusiastic vocalist. |
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20 Nov 09 - 07:31 AM (#2769724) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Nick I hope Little Hawk doesn't mind but as there was a load of demand I popped a copy of it on YouTube here: George Coventry plays It Takes a Lot to Laugh it Takes a Train to Cry If you want it removed either now or when it gets posted by the guy who took it let me know and I'll remove it |
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20 Nov 09 - 08:53 AM (#2769764) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: CET That was great, LH. It brings back fond memories of meeting you and Raptor some years back, and that fantastic session in somebody's basement. I wouldn't fret about flatpicking. There are probably more than a few guitar players who would like to trade fingers with you. Edmund (properly signed in now) |
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20 Nov 09 - 09:09 AM (#2769777) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Stewie An enjoyable rendition - well done, Little Hawk. Those interested interested in covers of the song should also have a listen to Chris Smither's take on his latest album 'Time Stands Still'. His measured almost languid delivery and gentle guitar picking strike a different mood. --Stewie. |
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20 Nov 09 - 11:18 AM (#2769834) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk I absolutely LOVE the way Chris Smither does the Dylan songs he covers, not to mention his own material. He's a marvelous player with great taste and I always get new ideas listening to how he does a song. Nick has put the video on Youtube now, so those who don't have Facebook can go and find it there...click the link or do a search for "George Coventry", I guess. Hi, Edmund....okay, now I remember who you are. Long time no see. How goes it? |
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20 Nov 09 - 02:25 PM (#2769977) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: flattop Youtube works better than Preparation H. Thanks Nick. Good to hear your voice and rhythms again, George. Don't know what version of the train song you were doing. I only knew Dylan's early version. I believe Walsh did it (with three finger runs up in G) at Don's Coffeehouse. It would be interesting to hear his version on YouTube also. Hope you post a few of you originals on YouTube, George, especially Little Crow Woman and Summer's Gone. d. |
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20 Nov 09 - 02:28 PM (#2769979) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Yeah, seems to me that Walsh does that one in a very energetic way, but I can't remember in which key. I used to add harmonica and vocal harmonies when he would do it, and it was lots of fun. He hasn't been out to the song circles in quite a while now, but he's quite all right, just busy with other stuff, I guess. |
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20 Nov 09 - 03:25 PM (#2770017) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Beer Great job George. Also looks like a hell of a good time had by all. Ad. |
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20 Nov 09 - 04:28 PM (#2770058) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk It's a very friendly song circle at a really neat location. That song was the first one of the evening as I recall, so some of the other players were just kind of warming up, and you don't hear much noticeable playing from them in the clip. It's the kind of thing where one person at a time does a song going around the circle. Other people may join in, but not so loud as to override the sound coming from the person whose turn it is. |
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20 Nov 09 - 05:13 PM (#2770081) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: My guru always said Lovely, thanks for sorting YouTube Nick! Great to see/hear George at last! |
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20 Nov 09 - 05:57 PM (#2770106) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: gnu LH.... good stuff! |
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21 Nov 09 - 06:37 AM (#2770357) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: David C. Carter Had to sign in to Facebook to watch this,something I said I'd never do. I'm glad I did. Nice one LH! David |
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21 Nov 09 - 08:29 AM (#2770385) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Gulliver Very nice, seeing your video on YouTube, thanks. My channel there is cocklesandmussels Don |
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21 Nov 09 - 09:13 AM (#2770407) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Bobert I'm with you, David... Hooked up with a couple of folks I went to high school with who, truth be known, I had forgotten all about... Actually, I had forgotten that I went to high school... Speakin' of forgettin'... My hat is off to LH fir not only keepin' his hair full (and dark) but also keepin' his velcro in purdy good shape... The reason I don't do many Dylan songs these days is that, ahhhhhhh, I can't remember the words... The music is imprinted very well but words hard to come by... My son, Will-to-me-Ben-to-everyone-else-don't-ask, memorized "Bob Dylan's Dream" when he was about 12 years old and can still recite it front-to-finish upon request... But then again he can do Jamie Brockett's "Legend of the Titanic" upon request... I gotta bunch of cheat sheets that I take to gigs in case someone yells out, "Can ya do any Dylan???"... The song I like doin' in those situations is "Everything is Broken" but I gotta use the cheat sheets... I'm kind down to "She Belongs to Me" without the cheat sheets... BTW, ya'll know those Cummings tool sales??? They are great... Ya' can buy a bag of plastic spring clips fir a couple bucks and they are the best thing in the world for attaching cheat sheets to a mic stand... Then, of course, in the right settin' you can also set yer geetar case up in front of you, leave it open and stash a dozen or so cheaters in it... The trick is BIG PRINT!!! lol... (That's really not all that funny, Boberdz...) Okay, it ain't... But the danged thing works and folks is amazed at yer recall... B~ |
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21 Nov 09 - 11:04 AM (#2770481) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Ernest Great singing and playing, LH! Wouldn`t expect something bad from someone who lives together with dachsies... ;0) Ernest |
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21 Nov 09 - 12:18 PM (#2770545) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Bill D I'm glad Nick scooped it up and sent it to YouTube.... I knew you played mouth harp LH, but hadn't realized you did the whole Dylan bit with guitar, too. Good to finally see you doing music, even if it ain't what I'd play along with on autoharp... *grin*. |
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21 Nov 09 - 12:52 PM (#2770566) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk I started out just writing songs without any instrument at all, Bill, when I was somewhere in the mid-teens. I was madly in love with Buffy Sainte-Marie at the time, so I wrote this song lyric about her and fitted it to the tune of "Four Strong Winds". That was my first real attempt in the songwriting trade and I had to steal the melody! I also used to draw pictures of Buffy in pencil, using the album cover photos for inspiration. ;-) I had a lot of trouble getting used to Bob Dylan at first, because he didn't sound anything like a "folksinger" to me...but I loved his songs as recorded by Joan Baez and others. It took a few years before I could relate to Dylan himself singing them. The first guitar I had was bought by my parents and it was SUCH a lousy instrument that I don't think it was even possible to play decent music on it. No joke. The intonation was way off, the action was way high, the tone was wretched, it wouldn't stay in tune. Just totally hopeless. The thing has probably been used for firewood by now. I hope so anyway. A few years later I moved to Toronto and actually got a reasonably good guitar. By that time I was totally nuts about Bob Dylan while being still pretty obsessed with Buffy Sainte-Marie and Joan Baez. Interesting combination. They became my holy trinity, you might say. Once I could play guitar and had one that would stay in tune then I wrote a lot of songs and they did get better with time. I won't play most of the early ones anymore, but they served a good purpose at the time. |
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21 Nov 09 - 01:28 PM (#2770602) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Nick By coincidence there is a 1974 Dylan concert on Wolfgang's Vault this week (as well as other concerts from 1974). Dylan at Madison Square - if you don't know the site it's a nice little treasure trove and it's a free sign up to listen and I have had no problem since signing up. I'm not sure it's fantastic singing. More like shouting than singing at points. I think I first saw him live at Earls Court in London in about 1981 so missed it when he could sing. Who knows he might come and play locally today in Yorkshire. There is a newish venue in York which mostly has rock bands but in February there's Judy Collins who I last saw in London in 1969 which is a scary thought - Judy Collins in York. Perhaps if she enjoys it she'll let Bob know. |
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21 Nov 09 - 02:58 PM (#2770662) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk That's pretty cool to listen to now, Nick. I got a ticket for the 1974 tour and saw him in Toronto at Maple Leaf Gardens. It was a great show, but many of the songs were played faster than was really necessary and, yes, he was kind of just shouting the lyrics on some of them. I think that was the most eagerly anticipated series of concerts in modern history. |
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21 Nov 09 - 05:55 PM (#2770752) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Donuel I just saw the video. With authentic ease, the raw honest natural talent rings out of George, his harmonica and guitar simultaneously. My wife said he sounds sooo much better than Bob Dylan it isn't funny. I said that may not be a compliment since hopefully everyone should sound better than Dylan. With his Texan good looks he is intimidating to the rest of us overweight schlumps and probably has more than his fair share of the ladies. The song is driving and very good but I do have one little bugaboo... I just don't get the whole "it takes a train to cry" bit. Almost any other lyric in its place would dramticly improve the whole song. example "the bird in hand has died" The way I see it, it just don't take no train to cry Even "my eyes are burnin from the sky or I just got bird shit in my eyes is better'n some crying train...I mean when all goes round how does etc etc etc |
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21 Nov 09 - 08:31 PM (#2770842) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: frogprince Donuel, are you a little too young to remember what the distant whistle of a steam locomotive sounded like in the night? It never occured to me not to get the sense of that line. |
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21 Nov 09 - 08:39 PM (#2770849) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk I think it's perfect, but it's not even in the lyrics of the original version, it's just in the title. However, I'm pretty sure I saw Bob add a 4rth verse to the song one time in a live concert and he added the words of the title in that verse much the same as I did...thus you get a fourth verse that kind of wraps up the whole thing neatly at the end. So that's the way I do the song now. |
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22 Nov 09 - 03:20 PM (#2771285) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: flattop Do you still have that picture of Buffy on your bedroom wall Little Hawk? I looked up 'Dylan train' on youtube. The search turned up lots of versions of the song and lots of other Dylan material. Just search 'Bob Dylan' if you want most everything. Search thing like 'Bob Dylan interview' or 'Bob Dylan 1959' to narrow it down. I have only seen a few Dylan interviews before. As an aging fan, I wasted the better part of a sunny day in Cape Breton, when I could have been out on the Mira, looking at youTube Dylan links and related material. Among my favorites, after the interviews, was Ziggy's in Hibbings and Dylan in Hamilton Ontario which you can find under 'Bob Dylan chats in a carpark.' I now realized that Lanios work in Hamilton rekindled Dylan's career at one point but it struck me as odd that Hamilton would be a highlight in Dylan's life. I have greatly enjoyed visits to Hamilton but Tom Wilson of Blackie and The Rodeo Kings describes the flavor of his town in his song 'Lean on Your Peers.' Search youtube 'Tom Wilson-Lean On Your Peers'. In one the B&RK live version, Tom describes Hamilton as being like Pittsburg without the culture. Lean on Your Peers - Lyric For funnier stuff try searching, 'John Lennon's parody of Bob Dylan', 'The Beatles imitating Bob Dylan', 'Borat Dylan' and 'Bob Dylan forgets his words' |
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22 Nov 09 - 04:44 PM (#2771324) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Yes, the framed picture of Buffy Sainte-Marie is still on my bedroom wall, and it will be till I'm dead and gone (from here on Planet Earth, I mean). ;-) I agree that the Youtube episode of Dylan in the parking lot in Hamilton is a gem. It's one of my favorite Bob Dylan videos. Another really neat one is the one where some guy interviews him in a trailer (or a tour bus) , and he's sketching a picture of the guy the whole time. He gives the sketch to the interviewer at the end. Hamilton is one nasty industrial city allright. Not exactly an inspiring place to be for very long. I went there with Walsh one time to look at guitars, and we pretended to be big music stars (Walsh acted like he was in my band/entourage)...heh! They bought it and fell all over themselves showing us what special stuff they had. Walsh is incredible at bullshitting people. He can make them believe anything. He once almost bullshitted Ed Mirvish's brother into giving him free front row seats at a Dylan concert as he was supposedly there in an official capacity to photograph Dylan and the band. He came within a whisker of succeeding, but Mirvish saw through it at some point and starting screaming at him on the phone about how he had wasted a couple of valuable minutes of his terribly important life on a nobody! Walsh was desperately trying to smother his laughter and punching buttons frantically to try to record this epic and historic tirade from the esteemed Mr Mirvish, but alas he did not quite succeed in hitting the right buttons before Mirvish hung up on him. ;-) True story. |
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22 Nov 09 - 09:13 PM (#2771474) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Nick Share a tune back. I was playing out this afternoon and a guy I'd never met called Martin came and played this - Crossroads - and I thought it was rather fun. Not a Dylan one but as tunes they are not a million miles away. |
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22 Nov 09 - 09:20 PM (#2771481) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Nice blues song allright. |
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24 Nov 09 - 02:44 PM (#2772822) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: flattop Your take on Hamilton seems a tad narrow minded, LH. Hamilton did have pollution problems like other steel producing area including Cape Breton. However, I think the pollution is dwindling as offshore producers take over the markets and force plant closures. Even Orillia had metal plants and contaminated areas. Dorr-Oliver still had a mud floor in the foundry when I worked there. I only went to the foundry once but felt I had stepped back into a Dickens’s novel. My feelings on Hamilton were that it had culture, a mix of working culture and other cultures. I believe that the McKenzie Brother act was a direct rip-off of Hamilton working culture with the a bit of cleaning up, such as ‘take-off eh’ instead of their endearing local colloquialism. As in any place that loses hundreds of jobs, areas got rundown but new buildings, parkland, and initiatives sprang up. Hamilton seems to have become a hotbed of music culture in recent years. Perhaps this is because parts of the city are much more affordable than neighboring Toronto. I'm sure Tom Wilson was acting tongue-in-somewhere with his remarks. He’s from Hamilton and can joke about the place. Besides being a member of Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, Tom also fronts the musical group 'LeE HARVeY OsMOND.' One of their songs shows pictures that are probably recently taken in Hamilton. A lot of it looks like other cities in North America. Lee Harvey Osmond -I Can't Stand It And they say Canadians don’t dance. Damn. If you start looking for culture in Hamilton, you’ll find lots of it mentioned on the web. Who would have thought that Conway Twitty played Hamilton in the 50s? How about McMaster? McMaster has been one of Canada’s top Universities as long as I can remember. Besides their leading edge medical research, they bought Bertrand Russell’s old letters. How could any Canadian’s write good letters without the example of an old, dead, Brit? (Russell was a great writer.) If Eugene Levy hadn’t met Ivan Reitman at McMaster, we may not have enjoyed highly cultured Canadian movies like American Pie, American Pie 2, and American Wedding. Hamilton locals put on a great free festival each year, The Festival of Friends. I saw Bruce Cockburn and many other top-drawer performers there, the few times I attended. And how about that one-sided mountain? Did you ever ‘go up the mountain’ in Hamilton? Hamilton Mountain only has one side. Hamiltonians will hear no arguments to the contrary. Are you sure who was fooling who when you went to that Hamilton guitar store? No self-respecting salesman, wanting to make a sale, would disillusion a crazy musician with lots of money jingling in his pocket. Furthermore, they might have realized from your strumming that you should already be a star. Sadly, they didn’t know that you needed help to promote yourself and to get over your fear of success. They might have been able to help you if you asked. Daniel Lanois re-launched Aaron Neville and Dylan’s careers from Hamilton. Good to see your video out there where people can see you. Thanks. A couple more would be nice. |
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24 Nov 09 - 03:55 PM (#2772875) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Heh! My "fear of success"...you might really have something there. While it attracts me in one way (recognition...plus earning a good living doing what I love to do), it also worries me in other ways such as losing my anonymity and being bothered by a lot of people I don't know (and maybe don't want to) and stressed out in various ways, etc. Then too, I'd sort of have to keep meeting various people's expectations, wouldn't I? I don't really know Hamilton well enough to have knowledge about its culture, but I've heard good things about the Festival of Friends, and yes, I've seen the one-sided mountain...an interesting bit of geography, that. You have not seen Walsh in action doing his flim-flam routine on people. He's quite amazing. Most people do fall for it, believe me. It's a good thing he's an honest and harmless man (he only does the flim-flamming for fun, not for personal gain)....or he could do some real damage in this world. I expect to do some more videos soon. When I do, I'll let you know, flattop. |
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24 Nov 09 - 04:51 PM (#2772921) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Lizzie Cornish 1 You're very good Little Hawk, good to see you on video. :0) |
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24 Nov 09 - 04:54 PM (#2772922) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Thanks, Lizzie, and thanks to you for making me aware of Eddie Reader. I hadn't even heard of her before a couple of days ago. I guess she is not as well known in North America as in the UK. |
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24 Nov 09 - 05:24 PM (#2772941) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Lizzie Cornish 1 An absolute pleasure, Little Hawk, really glad you like her. :0) |
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03 Dec 09 - 01:27 PM (#2779771) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: GUEST,IronHead I just wanted to thank Little Hawk for doing these videos and getting them out to the people. You have done a great thing to teach the world the old way. More of us should take on this task to spread the good way. Thank you Little Hawk Thomas Ironhead |
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03 Dec 09 - 02:14 PM (#2779828) Subject: RE: Little Hawk on video 'Takes a lot to...' From: Little Hawk Hmmm. Well, I'm not quite sure if I know exactly what you mean, Thomas...but thanks. Were you referring to those popular Dachshund taming videos I did? Or was it the music one? |