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01 Dec 09 - 03:12 PM (#2777798) Subject: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: GUEST,walden I just heard jack haggerty by mick hanley. i have the guitar worked out, for those who might wonder, its dadgad with a capo on 3rd fret. which means the song is played in F however, i cant work out whats going on with the harmonica. i'm no expert on harmonicas btw. i have a few hohner proharps, and i cant replicate what is being played. which makes me assume the tuning of the harp played is different to my harmonicas. so the specific Questions are; what type of harp is being played? what key of harp is being played?. many thanks :-) W |
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01 Dec 09 - 03:33 PM (#2777810) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Les from Hull I've never heard this, but do you know you can get F harps in a 'low F tuning', an octave below the normal tuning. So if it's a rich full tone in F it's a 'low F'. I love my 'low F' and I wouldn't go back to standard F for a gold pig. |
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01 Dec 09 - 04:09 PM (#2777843) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Songbob If the harp sound isn't "blues" harp, an F harp is needed. That is, unless there's a minor key sound to it. Since I don't know the song or singer, I can't speculate. But either a standard or low-F harp should be able to play in F. If it's a blues sound, what they call "cross harp," you need a Bb harp, so you can home in on the F note (the 5th in the scale). This system gives you some whole-tone-down sounds (EB, not E below the F note, for instance). It's even possible that the song is modal, and you'll need an Eb harp (if it's in Dorian, or the II note). Good luck with it. I'm just learning cross-harp playing, myself, and it's fun, but not quite so intuitive as straight-harp playing. Modal playing is even odder (think of starting with the first DRAW note as your tonic). Bob |
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01 Dec 09 - 06:15 PM (#2777969) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Tootler Is it possible to post a link to a clip of the song? |
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01 Dec 09 - 06:24 PM (#2777976) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Acorn4 I love the version of the song by Touchstone - you really need to get an MP3 up we can listen to as this is a really early MH recording - I'd be interested to hear it. |
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01 Dec 09 - 06:48 PM (#2777995) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: GUEST i'll upload a clip....... |
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01 Dec 09 - 07:03 PM (#2778008) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: GUEST,walden clip as promised.... https://www.yousendit.com/download/MVNlNU1ObThwcFZMWEE9PQ |
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01 Dec 09 - 07:33 PM (#2778022) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Songbob Straight-harp, not cross, I think it's a double-reed instrument, no funny scales. It sounds like an imitation of the squeeze-box (melodeon? button-box of some sort, anyway). I didn't hear any accidentals, so it wasn't a chromatic harp. What would you call this style? How about "pretty good?" I can't help more than that. Bob Clayton |
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01 Dec 09 - 08:59 PM (#2778058) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Ross Campbell That's Andy Irvine on the harmonica (unmistakable style) and I would have thought there's enough note-bending going on that it has to be cross-harp playing. Mick Hanley put the tune to the song. Ross |
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01 Dec 09 - 09:28 PM (#2778064) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: GUEST hi, well spotted there! i just checked the sleeve note, it is indeed andy irvine on harmonica. its confusing, i had another crack at this, and i can fudge it on a harp in the played key, but i dont get how you could do it cross harp. ?????? |
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01 Dec 09 - 10:05 PM (#2778076) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Les from Hull You can bend notes on straight harp playing as well. I'd say straight harp (and not low F) played really well. Why not ask Andy if he can remember? |
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02 Dec 09 - 10:08 AM (#2778484) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: GUEST,walden hmm i dont have his phone number....... |
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02 Dec 09 - 10:33 AM (#2778496) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Steve Shaw I'd say he's playing a low F harp in first position, but he is bending certain blow-notes for decoration which, in theory, he shouldn't be able to bend. Two possibilities I can come up with are that the harp he's playing is a standard diatonic that's been valved, or alternatively it's a Hohner Low F XB40. The latter has auxiliary, "silent" reeds that enable bending on all the 20 notes of the harp. On a standard, unvalved harp only blows 7-10 and draws 1-6 are amenable to bending. We're not talking about overblowing here - the notes I'm talking about in the clip are definitely bends, not overblows. Whatever the harp, it's a beautifully tasteful and skilful bit of playing, as ever, by Andy Irvine. |
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02 Dec 09 - 10:34 AM (#2778497) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) Contact him via his website. He's actually really helpful. |
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02 Dec 09 - 10:51 AM (#2778510) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: Steve Shaw The Suzuki MR350V is a valved 10-hole diatonic on which every note can be bent. It is available in low F. |
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02 Dec 09 - 11:54 AM (#2778578) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) ...but obviously not as helpful as this bloke... |
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02 Dec 09 - 08:53 PM (#2779104) Subject: RE: harmonica on mick hanleys jack haggerty From: GUEST,walden hey this is all really helpful, thanks to everyone :-) not least steve, i think your take on this sounds interesting, and certainly explains my confusion..... i wasnt aware of the xb40 extreme bender (!) i will investigate this, might even buy one. cheers W |