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11 Feb 10 - 05:32 AM (#2835869) Subject: What key does a toilet flush in? From: The Fooles Troupe No wait - this IS a music thread... I'm not making this up! On a recent episode of Spicks and Specks - a music quiz show - of sorts - and the topic came up. The Classically trained muso said that they did not flush in F sharp, as was claimed, but in E Flat. And this has little relevance to a previous thread about 'the flush of a distant toilet', which, sadly, the Forum Search was unable to assist with. :-) |
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11 Feb 10 - 05:44 AM (#2835879) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Mo the caller Doesn't it depend whether you're in the Northern or Southern Hemisphere? |
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11 Feb 10 - 05:46 AM (#2835882) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: The Fooles Troupe It was suggested, that like a glass of water/wine, it depends 1) how full it is 2) what it is full of.... |
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11 Feb 10 - 05:51 AM (#2835885) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: John MacKenzie P# ? B Flatulent |
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11 Feb 10 - 05:56 AM (#2835887) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: MGM·Lion My two don't have keys, they have bolts. |
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11 Feb 10 - 06:00 AM (#2835890) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Bernard Wasn't he a famous artist? Two loos... (I'll get me coat!) |
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11 Feb 10 - 06:00 AM (#2835892) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: GUEST,foxyloxy Not a key, strictly speaking, more of an A-holeian mode... |
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11 Feb 10 - 06:11 AM (#2835901) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Liz the Squeak I'm usually too busy washing my hands to listen out but I do know that the hot water pipe at work sings in Bb.... but only when you've got the cold water tap on. LTS |
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11 Feb 10 - 06:14 AM (#2835905) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Edthefolkie First or second movement? |
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11 Feb 10 - 06:14 AM (#2835906) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Dave MacKenzie Why not ask the Beeb. Apparently, many years ago, the BBC Third Programme as it was at the time, broadcast a live opera production from the King's Theatre in Edinburgh (during the Festival, of course). At some point, it was required that the tenor sing off-stage, and they thought they'd found a suitable place. However, nobody remembered to turn off the automatic flush for the Gents' urinals! |
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11 Feb 10 - 06:35 AM (#2835918) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Rockhen Anyone ever harmonised with their hoover...(NO I am not being rude...sigh...) Of course I do not actually do any housework that would be too scary...but I have tried keeping a harmony going whilst pretending to wheel the hoover around in an efficiently domestic style and have even debated recording its lovely frequencies so I can add several harmonies...er...ok ok, not normal...I'll get me anorak |
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11 Feb 10 - 06:57 AM (#2835926) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Steve Shaw WC minor or WC major, depending on whether it's a number one or a number two. |
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11 Feb 10 - 07:14 AM (#2835938) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: John MacKenzie Wasn't Sir Malcom Sargent nicknamed Flush Harry? He would have known the answer to this one. |
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11 Feb 10 - 07:19 AM (#2835945) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Tally Ho Man Are we sure it wasn't on the BBC's T**D programme? |
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11 Feb 10 - 07:26 AM (#2835952) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Georgiansilver Hope this thread is just a flash in the pan!!! |
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11 Feb 10 - 07:54 AM (#2835973) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: John MacKenzie Father Abbot looks after the Brethren, and Mother Abbess looks after the Cistern. |
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11 Feb 10 - 08:09 AM (#2835985) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: The Fooles Troupe Now look guys, you're treating this serious music thread like a BS thread - Joe will move it if we are not careful... I suggest that the sound is more like that of a drum or cymbal, an idiophone, and really it's a misnomer to say it is in a 'key' - more that it has a particular 'pitch'... ... and that's my pitch for the moment... I'll get me hat... |
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11 Feb 10 - 08:16 AM (#2835990) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Leadfingers I seem to recall the late Mr Dankworth pleading Not Guilty to a Speeding charge , because at 30 mph his car was a constant A Flat ! |
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11 Feb 10 - 09:31 AM (#2836059) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: MGM·Lion Bernard - your comment on my last post was a Loo-Loo. |
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11 Feb 10 - 09:31 AM (#2836060) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Darowyn The movement of water creates a sound very close to white noise. Thus a toilet flushes equally in every key, mode and octave. As Foolestroupe says, like a drum or cymbal, only more so, since the frequencies of the harmonics of both of those do follow a formula called a Bessel series. Only last week I heard someone on the radio claiming quite sincerely that a single, isolated chord of E flat played on the piano was completely different from a single isolated chord of D sharp played on the same piano. Her reason was that it gave her a different sensation of colour. A toilet flush, containing every frequency allows you to hear whatever key you wish it to be, or none. Cheers Dave |
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11 Feb 10 - 09:41 AM (#2836064) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: SINSULL Key Largo. Key West has outhouses. |
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11 Feb 10 - 09:49 AM (#2836074) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Tally Ho Man This is beginning to sound like a load of ballcocks! |
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11 Feb 10 - 09:51 AM (#2836075) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: GUEST Serious (me serious?) the bowl and pipes and tank all have resonances, they will selectively enhance some frequencies, thus give a certain impression of pitch. Much as a cymbal isn't all frequencies (white noise) small and larg are different. Pink noise might be a better description (it does exist). |
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11 Feb 10 - 10:02 AM (#2836085) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Bernard Pink noise? Brown noise, more like! |
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11 Feb 10 - 10:18 AM (#2836101) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: GUEST,Pete Sumner You have to watch out for Bum Notes! |
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11 Feb 10 - 10:36 AM (#2836128) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Charley Noble And when the job's complete, He'll haunt that sewer suite, And when they pull the chain, Oh, won't they howl! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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11 Feb 10 - 11:07 AM (#2836174) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: John MacKenzie When all the shithouse poets die There'll be erected in the sky A monument to mark their wit A monument of solid shit. |
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11 Feb 10 - 11:08 AM (#2836175) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Maryrrf I don't know what key but a friend of mine who was making a recording of Hawaiian music (in New Jersey) used a toilet flush to replicated the "sound of the surf". It worked! |
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11 Feb 10 - 12:40 PM (#2836266) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Cool Beans A turd higher than the tonic. |
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11 Feb 10 - 12:53 PM (#2836279) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Amos P sharp? A |
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11 Feb 10 - 12:54 PM (#2836280) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Mavis Enderby Rockhen - you are not alone! |
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11 Feb 10 - 01:09 PM (#2836293) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Rockhen Lol :-) |
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11 Feb 10 - 02:01 PM (#2836346) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: John MacKenzie Ah Amos, it pays to read back sometimes :) |
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11 Feb 10 - 02:09 PM (#2836357) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: olddude Key of L cause it sounds like L when it backs up |
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11 Feb 10 - 02:51 PM (#2836392) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: GUEST G Splat |
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11 Feb 10 - 02:59 PM (#2836395) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: GUEST,erbert I used to tune my guitar to my Braun shaver which buzzed at a fairly precise constant "G". So, if I were to now sit on the bog for a shave and sing any random notes to fit; I could harmonise an entire chord ? |
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11 Feb 10 - 03:41 PM (#2836428) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Mo the caller I remember somone playing a Loo-phonium aquired from a building site, on a Keele Rag float |
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11 Feb 10 - 04:36 PM (#2836501) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: GUEST,999 Ask Ebbie. She'd know. |
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11 Feb 10 - 04:37 PM (#2836502) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: John MacKenzie Did he play Toilet Time? |
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11 Feb 10 - 04:41 PM (#2836505) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: JennieG Robin, I'm on your side......no jokes from me, this is serious! I watched that episode too, and remember being surprised. I wonder what pitch other fairly common household noises are? The ding of the mcrowave oven door when food has finished cooking.....the high pitched whistle of the kettle when the water boils. Cheers JennieG |
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11 Feb 10 - 04:46 PM (#2836511) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Rowan And Malcolm Gill (who proferred the E flat on SPicks & Specks) does have serious cred. I've been trying to tune the water hammer in my system for quite some time. Cheers, Rowan |
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11 Feb 10 - 07:41 PM (#2836682) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: The Fooles Troupe "The Ding of the microwave oven door" is in almost the same class as "the flush of a distant toilet"... but if you ever met Ding (from The Swamp), you'd probably be concerned if he was anywhere near any electrical appliance... Re the Vacuum drone, Aussie TV currently has an advert for "Green stuff" trying to get people to save electricity - and it shows a little kid humming in front of an electric fan, harmonising... |
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11 Feb 10 - 08:47 PM (#2836722) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: GUEST,matomick I think you'd have to know all about scales before answering that question. |
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11 Feb 10 - 09:01 PM (#2836731) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: GUEST,mayomick A major turd . |
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11 Feb 10 - 10:37 PM (#2836759) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: mousethief It has a fine assonance. O..O =o= |
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11 Feb 10 - 10:58 PM (#2836767) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: The Fooles Troupe Various household sounds |
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12 Feb 10 - 12:51 AM (#2836803) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Ebbie That's jazz at its finest! I especially liked the bathroom one. |
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12 Feb 10 - 03:13 AM (#2836836) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: The Fooles Troupe OK what key did the toilet flush in? :-P |
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12 Feb 10 - 06:06 AM (#2836913) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Liz the Squeak Our washing machine appears to hum along in C... major if it's a light load, minor if it's a full load. LTS |
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12 Feb 10 - 06:50 AM (#2836945) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Steve Shaw The German composer Samuel Scheidt (1587-1654) would have been the man to ask. Or one of his skids perhaps. |
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12 Feb 10 - 02:36 PM (#2837375) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Aeola I think it depends on whether you are in a soft or hard water area!In a hard water area you have much more scales to chose from! |
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12 Feb 10 - 02:56 PM (#2837390) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: MGM·Lion The thread title seems to assume that all toilets flush in the same key. Why would they.? In fact I have two [which is why I call my house Toulouse, tho my wife used to prefer Lulu], and their flushes are quite differently pitched. ~ Michel, Comte de Toulouse [knock twice & ask for Lulu] |
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12 Feb 10 - 03:05 PM (#2837401) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: John MacKenzie Le trek, to loos |
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12 Feb 10 - 03:24 PM (#2837421) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: Pierre Le Chapeau Drop pee minor ? |
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26 Feb 10 - 07:21 PM (#2851227) Subject: RE: What key does a toilet flush in? From: The Fooles Troupe Was unable to get in here a while ago - then been offline... Actually, since idiophones like drums and rocks etc have a range of harmonics related to the fundamental, which forms its own 'scale' not necessarily with all the pitches related to the basic western scales, such as major or minor, etc, perhaps 'key' is closer than 'pitch'.... |