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04 Aug 99 - 08:30 AM (#102199) Subject: The Flowing Bowl: single I'm free From: Philippa a verse appearing in Michael McLaverty's "Truth in the Night", a novel set in Rathlin Island. More verses and a tune, anyone?: The Flowing Bowl No nor anyone it may control Keep me from the flowing bowl. When I'm single, single I'm free Love, love, love will never conquer me |
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04 Aug 99 - 11:54 AM (#102268) Subject: RE: single I'm free From: Wotcha Could it be a subtle parody of "Fathom the bowl?" which has similar themes -- booze, and a bad marriage. cheers Alhamdalla, Brian |
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05 Aug 99 - 03:03 AM (#102465) Subject: Flowing Bowl From: Joe Offer Would it be really dense of me to ask what a "flowing bowl" is? Please answer gently.... -Joe Offer- |
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05 Aug 99 - 03:42 AM (#102468) Subject: RE: single I'm free From: Brakn I've got the words of one called "Come Landlord Fill The Flowing Bowl". I don't think it's the one you want but I'll post it up if you need it. Mick Bracken |
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05 Aug 99 - 04:09 AM (#102472) Subject: Flowing Bowls From: Joe Offer Hi, Mick - I think the one you speak of is in the database as THREE JOLLY COACHMEN. this one is different - and this thread is a spinoff from the Musical Novels thread. I notice that the database has many songs that speak of "flowing bowls," so I'm sure this is a term true folkies should know. As one who has worked in building maintenance, it makes me think of plugged-up toilets, but I don't think that's what the term means. -Joe Offer- |
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05 Aug 99 - 04:18 AM (#102474) Subject: RE: single I'm free From: Brakn You're right Joe, I didn't look. The flowing bowl I would think is a bowl full of good cheer or beer Mick Bracken |
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05 Aug 99 - 02:56 PM (#102601) Subject: RE: single I'm free From: Wotcha The "flowing bowl" appears in the contect of a grog bowl in many songs of the sea: take "Fathom the Bowl" and " Warlike Seamen" as examples. "Me wife she is the devil, she is black as the coal, Give me the punch ladle, I'll fathom the bowl ..." cheers, Brian |
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15 Aug 99 - 07:06 PM (#105291) Subject: RE: single I'm free From: Philippa to return to the original request... |
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15 Aug 99 - 10:00 PM (#105345) Subject: RE: single I'm free From: So if there was enough beer or grog in the bowl, Joe could STILL be right about the plugged up toilet, no? |
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16 Aug 99 - 05:50 AM (#105438) Subject: RE: single I'm free From: Roger the zimmer overflowing is the context, Joe, I never fill 'em that full in case of spillage. Bartender to man with the shakes (English, plays the kazoo): Do you drink much? Roger (for it is he):No, I spill most of it! Drum roll, clash of cymbals, fall of curtain, hail of missiles, exit stage door with blanket over head into fast getaway car. |
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16 Aug 99 - 12:06 PM (#105513) Subject: RE: single I'm free From: GeorgeH To add to what's been said . . References to "flowing bowl" generally mean it's flowing free . . (at someone else's expense . .) G. |
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21 Nov 08 - 09:05 AM (#2499285) Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: 'When I'm single, single I'm free... From: Jim Dixon Replying to the original question: I found the following verses that contain some similar phrases and sentiment. I will quote them in context:
candor, that, before being sung in hearing of modern ears polite, they would need such fumigating and expurgation, that their clearness and continuity would be lost. That such were tolerated at the time is not condemnatory of a community where sturdy manhood was the rule and effeminacy the exception. I recall a few verses of a song, not of this class, and yet in ethics rather befitting a minstrel show. Two verses are specimens of several others, depicting female ante-marital shortcomings; the creation lords, of course being uncriticised; man being composer and singer. The title of the song my memory has mislaid.
She was young and handsome, too, But, in time, I did discover She'd the making of a shrew.
Women ne'er shall conquer me; Conquer me, nor me control Nor keep me from the flowing bowl. She was nicely dowered, too, She was the one I fain would marry, But she proved herself untrue.
Women ne'er shall conquer me; Conquer me, nor me control Nor keep me from the flowing bowl." sang with more feeling after a visit to the "Yellow Ball." That he was a married man, and that he was first conquered and then controlled by his mate, goes without saying. --from The Kenderdines of America by Thaddeus Stevens Kenderdine (Doylestown, PA: Doylestown Publishing Company, 1901). |
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11 Dec 10 - 03:59 PM (#3051172) Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: 'When I'm single, single I'm free... From: GUEST,Chuck Elhart Bingo! That was the song lyrics I was searching for. My grandmother used to sing it to me when I was a kid. I think there were three women mentioned altogether in the song. The only one I could remember was Nancy. The "flowing bowl" I always understood to be pipe smoke. My grandma was born in 1885. |
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21 Dec 23 - 05:27 AM (#4193990) Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: 'When I'm single, single I'm free... From: GUEST,Katie I’m sure by now you may have heard the Mary Wallopers version “Love Will Never Conquer Me”! It might be bring some memories and it’s a fantastic version! |
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21 Dec 23 - 02:02 PM (#4194007) Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: 'When I'm single, single I'm free... From: GUEST,leeneia Years ago I went to a house concert where a husband and wife who were retired Navy and still lived on a boat said that in the olden days (prob 1700's) a pub sold a mix of liquors from a punch bowl with fruit in it. To fathom the bowl is to dip the ladle to the bottom and retrieve some fruit for the drinker. The couple may have been named Nash. I guess a flowing bowl is providing lots of ladlefuls, because normally you wouldn't want any liquor flowing out of the bowl to be wasted.* I remember this scrap of a song from that night: There's a whole world of pleasure in England's control. Give me the punch ladle; we'll fathom the bowl. We'll fathom the bowl [2x] Give me the punch ladle; we'll fathom the bowl. It had a good tune to it. *Spellcheck doesn't like "ladlefuls". Get over yourself, Spellcheck. Humans are the only animals that invent new words. |