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The definitive folk song

22 Mar 10 - 11:30 AM (#2869272)
Subject: The definitive folk song
From: Bert

Which song for you is "The definitive folk song"

I'll go for "The Old Sow Song"

One song only please.


22 Mar 10 - 11:34 AM (#2869276)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Jack Campin

Never heard of it.

"Barbara Allen", the rest nowhere.


22 Mar 10 - 11:41 AM (#2869281)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Amos

Definitive of what?

I think this is a nonsensical question, like asking if there is a definitive letter in the alphabet or a definitive color in the spectrum, or a definitive baby's name.


A


22 Mar 10 - 11:53 AM (#2869287)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Bert

Amos,

When someone says "folk Song" what is the first song that comes to mind. Is it 'Freight Train', 'This Land is Your Land', 'Tom Pierce', 'Lincolnshire Poacher', or whatever.

That is what I'm looking for, but that wouldn't fit in the thread title, so give me a break!


22 Mar 10 - 12:03 PM (#2869297)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: The Sandman

Tie the yellow ribbon round the singers neck


22 Mar 10 - 12:10 PM (#2869304)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Dave the Gnome

Tam Lin does it for me. (Steeleye Span version though - does that count?)

DeG


22 Mar 10 - 12:20 PM (#2869312)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Terry McDonald

Just as the Tide was Flowing - wonderful melody, pastoral setting, pretty fair maid, lucky sailor, instant seduction. It has it all.


22 Mar 10 - 12:33 PM (#2869324)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Beer

Jessie Winchester with his moving song "Sham-A- Ling- Dong- Ding".

Beer (adrien)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uKGWpqnS8E


22 Mar 10 - 12:40 PM (#2869328)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: theleveller

Reynardine.


22 Mar 10 - 12:54 PM (#2869338)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)

Pentangle - Bruton Town:


22 Mar 10 - 12:56 PM (#2869341)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)

Bruton Town

I first heard Pentangle at about fifteen, and found these songs with odd lyrics thoroughly different to anything I knew. I wasn't a folk music fan - and didn't know at that time that these songs were so old.
I revisited Pentangle twenty years later, and the penny dropped.


22 Mar 10 - 01:04 PM (#2869344)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Lighter

Just one? That pops into my head instantly?

John Henry.


22 Mar 10 - 01:08 PM (#2869345)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Art Thieme

The Old Woman Who Loved A Swine

I know an old woman who loved a swine,
"PIGGY" said she.
"Piggy, dear, will you be mine?"
"SNORT" said he!

I'd get kids to snort along with me on this one. They would often tell me, "Oh, what a silly song. A woman would never fall in love with a pig!"

Then I'd tell them, Kids, just wait 'til you grow up. It happens all the time!"

Art Thieme


22 Mar 10 - 01:13 PM (#2869346)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Joe Offer

I'll go with Bert singing "The Old Sow Song." It's an absolute classic - but I can't sing it. I've tried to snort and squeal and whistle like Bert does, and it just doesn't come out right.
Bert, you're my hero. I'd be proud to sing at a campfire with you any time.
-Joe-


22 Mar 10 - 01:28 PM (#2869357)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Amos

I LOVE Art's contribution to this thread.

Bert, I apologize for being snippy. I am not too good at handling what was meant when it is different than what was said, due to an inherent addiction to propositional logic. My bad.

Being a walking jukebox, like many folksingers, an array of platter titles starts spinning across my field of view when the notion "folk song" is raised. Barbr'y Allen, Lord Randall, John Hardy, John Henry, Tom Dooley, Gypsy Davy, Mary Ellen Carter, Kevin Barry, Rosie McCain, and High-Chin Bob all jump up demanding to be Queen for a Day.


A


22 Mar 10 - 01:30 PM (#2869360)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,woodsie

Blowin' In The Wind


22 Mar 10 - 01:42 PM (#2869367)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: olddude

Wabash Cannon Ball


22 Mar 10 - 04:06 PM (#2869476)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,leeneia

The Water is Wide


22 Mar 10 - 04:15 PM (#2869483)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: mkebenn

Matty Groves.. Mike


22 Mar 10 - 04:19 PM (#2869484)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Joe_F

Dink's Song.


22 Mar 10 - 05:21 PM (#2869527)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Phil Edwards

The Trees They Do Grow High (as sung by Tony Rose)


22 Mar 10 - 05:23 PM (#2869530)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Paul Burke

Dido Fido.


22 Mar 10 - 05:24 PM (#2869532)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: RTim

Polly Vaughan

Tim Radford


22 Mar 10 - 05:34 PM (#2869538)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Tootler

Brigg Fair


22 Mar 10 - 05:46 PM (#2869545)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Bernard

Molly Malone... as far as I can remember, the first song identifiable as a folk song I can recall from when I was in primary school.


22 Mar 10 - 06:57 PM (#2869579)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Bounty Hound

Matty Groves - all the essential ingredients, sex, murder, 57 verses.


22 Mar 10 - 08:02 PM (#2869627)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Commander Crabbe

Lady Franklin's Lament

CC


22 Mar 10 - 08:10 PM (#2869631)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Uncle_DaveO

Frankie and Johnny

Dave Oesterreich


22 Mar 10 - 09:17 PM (#2869666)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Phil Cooper

Depends on my mood. Sort of between Fair Annie or Three Months Late. Ask me via pm about three months (by da yoopers)


22 Mar 10 - 10:27 PM (#2869698)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: ClaireBear

First one that came to mind was Dame Durden. Why? I couldn't possibly say. But "Humphrey with his flail" demanded to be heard!


22 Mar 10 - 10:38 PM (#2869707)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: olddude

i will also add greensleeves


23 Mar 10 - 12:08 AM (#2869746)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: The Fooles Troupe

olddude, is that to be added to your folksinger costume? :-)


23 Mar 10 - 02:54 AM (#2869784)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,Folkman

Both Sides Now - Joni Mitchell


23 Mar 10 - 03:46 AM (#2869795)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Doug Chadwick

It's not a song - just a tune. It's the one that goes:

diddly diddly diddly diddly
diddly diddly diddly diddly
diddly diddly diddly diddly
diddly diddly diddly diddly
diddly diddly diddly diddly
diddly diddly diddly diddly
diddly diddly diddly diddly
diddly diddly diddly diddly ........

Come on, youve heard it before. You know which one I mean!


DC


23 Mar 10 - 03:55 AM (#2869798)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Phil Edwards

Matty Groves - all the essential ingredients, sex, murder, 57 verses.

I'm jealous now - I put together bits from a few different versions and mine was still only 29 verses. I guess there are a few places where it could be spun out a bit more - I'll have to work on it.

Right well I like your wardrobe, he replied,
And also your new candelabra,
But as he spoke, he with anguish sighed,
For he didn't like the way this conversation was going...


23 Mar 10 - 05:22 AM (#2869826)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Bounty Hound

Pip: 'I'm jealous now'

Please dont feel to bad, I only actually sing 19 of them!


23 Mar 10 - 06:03 AM (#2869849)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Valmai Goodyear

Searching for Lambs


23 Mar 10 - 06:11 AM (#2869852)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Tootler

It's not a song - just a tune. It's the one that goes:

diddly diddly diddly diddly...


Only if it's Irish.

If it's English it's:

rumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty
rumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty
rumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty
rumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty
rumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty
rumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty
rumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty
rumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty


23 Mar 10 - 06:50 AM (#2869873)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: George Papavgeris

Given the lack of specification, one answer beats all: "Yerakina".


23 Mar 10 - 08:02 AM (#2869901)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Dave the Gnome

Anyone ever heard Stan Accrington's ultimate folk song - All the elements in one verse. OK - One line does go on for about 10 minutes but it is still one verse:-)

DeG


23 Mar 10 - 08:40 AM (#2869923)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: mkebenn

As we're not stickin' to one song, I'll add willow Garden/Rose Connely. Mike


23 Mar 10 - 09:01 AM (#2869933)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: deepdoc1

My take on the "definitive" aspect would be a song like House of the Rising Sun. This is a song that has its origins somewhere in the murky past, some have suggested as far back as 1600's, and has been brought along the generations in one form or another into today's folk, blues and rock music. I'm sure there are other, undoubtedly better examples; this just seems to be the very essence of folk music - traditional music brought along from generation to generation, morphing as it goes, influencing singers along the way, ending up with an eclectic mix of traditional and modern renderings.


23 Mar 10 - 09:13 AM (#2869941)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,Albert Broccoli

'Root's' by Show Of Hands


23 Mar 10 - 11:25 AM (#2870042)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine

As ballads go you really can't beat The Famous Flower Of Serving Men. What's not to like about a song with all the classic ingredients of family jealousy, infanticide, cross-dressing, talking white doves and bloody revenge- and goes on all day.


23 Mar 10 - 01:56 PM (#2870152)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,Bardan

Sovay maybe or king Henry


24 Mar 10 - 12:05 AM (#2870519)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: TinDor

Stagger Lee or John Henry


24 Mar 10 - 07:38 AM (#2870649)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Bryn Pugh

Searching for Lambs.

Fhir a Bhata.

Ar Hyd y Nos.

Glen Swilly.


24 Mar 10 - 08:42 AM (#2870693)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: MGM·Lion

Searching for Lambs indeed ···

++ any song featuring a girl called Nancy or Polly or Sally ... [esp if her male oppo is called William or Jack].


24 Mar 10 - 08:48 AM (#2870697)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: mikesamwild

She had a dark and rolling eye but the other was blue and static. Was that from John Kirkpatrick or The Kippers? 'and another one quite similar'


25 Mar 10 - 02:09 AM (#2871305)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST

Talkin' Hava Negeilah Blues


25 Mar 10 - 01:31 PM (#2871661)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego

How long is a piece of string...


25 Mar 10 - 02:15 PM (#2871699)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Bill D

"Birmingham Jail" aka "Down in the Valley"

I saw it in some little book in 1947, soon after I learned to read.


25 Mar 10 - 03:41 PM (#2871757)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Dan Schatz

The definitive folk song?

"Nyaah Nyaah Nyaah Nyaah Nyaah!"

Does anyone not know it - most likely in multiple variants? Did anyone get it from a book or recording? Now THAT'S definitive.

Dan


25 Mar 10 - 11:32 PM (#2872148)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: MGM·Lion

Has anybody mentioned Frankie & Johnny?


26 Mar 10 - 08:45 AM (#2872362)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: mikesamwild

If the definitive Country song is about a guy who loses his job, woman, dog, gun and truck, what would a trad singer bemoan?.


26 Mar 10 - 10:52 AM (#2872451)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,Harry Lime

'Early Morning Rain'
PPM version


26 Mar 10 - 11:33 AM (#2872494)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh

Bemoaning:

Being forced to roam from his own countrie and leave his own true love never to see them more except that maybe he'll be buried in his native churchyard if he makes a fortune in Amerikay and his land arises once more to be free and peaceful when the small birds do sing


26 Mar 10 - 11:58 AM (#2872520)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: Soldier boy

Pratty Flowers (the Holmfirth Anthem)

An old local Yorkshire song.


26 Mar 10 - 12:10 PM (#2872533)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,polly becker

My question is, what is the happiest folk song? I am in seach of something irresistably upbeat, effervescent? Are there any? I understand that this genere of music tends naturally toward tragedy and hardship...But I have a specific project in mind, and I want something a bit unfamilar that would be good for kids. Anyone have any advice for me???
Thanks--Polly


26 Mar 10 - 05:56 PM (#2872834)
Subject: RE: The definitive folk song
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego

Gee; I thought Harry Lime would be partial to "The Third Man Theme."