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07 Apr 10 - 11:26 AM (#2881404) Subject: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccsS6HMsyYM fasten the legging, with various ornamentation for english concertinists,see my concertina tutor at ww.dickmiles.com |
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07 Apr 10 - 11:43 AM (#2881414) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: GUEST,Peter Laban or this . For a variety of informed opinions. |
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07 Apr 10 - 11:58 AM (#2881423) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman Peter,I hope you havent misunderstood,I did not mean it is the only way but merely one way,do you play the English Concertina,I thought you were a piper? |
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07 Apr 10 - 12:04 PM (#2881427) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: GUEST,Peter Laban Dick, you rehash your subjects regularly, it's just a link to a previous discussion on the subject. One you have alluded to here a few times as a you know. Whether or not I play English concertina doesn't seem relevant. |
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07 Apr 10 - 12:16 PM (#2881437) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman Sorry,Peter,I didnt understand what you were trying to say. no, you are quite right it isnt relevant unless you wish to make a comment on the playing of a certain instrument,for example I would not comment on the intracicies of good bodhran playing because i dont play the instrument,neither would I comment on how to achieve techniques on the flute[apart from breathing,of which I have some experience from singing],hope you are keeping well and getting out playing,I enjoyed your playing when I have heard you at different times. |
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07 Apr 10 - 01:45 PM (#2881502) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: catspaw49 As with many English foods, I find the Concertina Rolls a bit heavy from an excess of flour and altogether typically bland and lacking character. While a Sourdough is also heavy it has the strong taste and wonderful texture the English Concertina rolls lack. Spaw |
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07 Apr 10 - 02:04 PM (#2881510) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: GUEST,richie Might have been more helpfull to actually see the instrument being played as opposed to the video mugshot |
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07 Apr 10 - 02:09 PM (#2881519) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: GUEST,Peter Laban I enjoyed your playing when I have heard you at different times. I have received messages from you saying quite the opposite. Have the public goodwill face on today Dick? I am out of here. Good luck. |
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07 Apr 10 - 07:45 PM (#2881752) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman guest richie,it is a bit difficult to photograph both sides of the instrument Peter,I dont recall criticising your playing. I repeat the recordings of you I have heard I have enjoyed,when have I Criticised your music?,and what has your music got to do with this thread. if I have criticised your music which I cant recall,why do you persist in stalking me. I cant recall criticising you but if I have,that is part and parcel of being in the public eye. |
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07 Apr 10 - 09:24 PM (#2881801) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Fooles Troupe Are we talking about concertinaing rolls, or rolling concertinas? Robin A multi-instrumentalist and general clown... |
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07 Apr 10 - 11:40 PM (#2881864) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Artful Codger I won a second place in the Concertina Roll at our last village fete. It was one of the more popular events, next to the Cat-apult. |
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08 Apr 10 - 02:47 AM (#2881898) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: treewind I hope it didn't roll too far away. Those 12 sided Lachenal Edeophones are buggers for rolling off the table. As for self promotion, wouldn't "Dick Miles concertina rocks" be more impressive? |
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08 Apr 10 - 03:16 AM (#2881905) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: SteveMansfield My Wheatstone is hexagonal and therefore stays on the table quite successfully. My keyless fife, however, could get itself a profitable second income as a spirit level, as it makes a determined break for the edge of the table on the slightest incline. I was recently alarmed to read in Grey Larsen's book that I've been playing crans on the flute all wrong for many years (and not only that, but Grey goes out of his way to point out the wrong way that people are being taught them, and illustrates exactly how I was taught them!) Would that somebody would put the years of work into producing a concertina tutor that anywhere near matched the depth, precision and obsessive attention to detail that Grey Larsen's 'Essential guide to flute and tin whistle' shows on every page. |
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08 Apr 10 - 04:07 AM (#2881924) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: theleveller "apart from breathing,of which I have some experience from singing" LOL! Most people's experience merely comes from being alive! |
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08 Apr 10 - 07:38 AM (#2882015) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman roling concertinas is a serious problem if you have an ediephone. sfmans, I think my concertina tutor is prety detailed when it comes to song accompaniment,in fact the two tutors have some twenty songs: some of them showing two different accompaniments for one song,that constitues fairly detailed,in fact I cant think of another tutor for the english concertina that is as strong on song accompaniment. |
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08 Apr 10 - 08:20 AM (#2882038) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: SteveMansfield sfmans, I think my concertina tutor is prety detailed when it comes to song accompaniment,in fact the two tutors have some twenty songs: some of them showing two different accompaniments for one song,that constitues fairly detailed,in fact I cant think of another tutor for the english concertina that is as strong on song accompaniment. I wasn't aware we were talkinmg about song accompaniment, but I've got your song tutor Dick: it comprises one double page of musical chord theory, followed by the transcriptions of your song arrangements. You cannot have seen Grey Larsen's book if you think you can remotely compare the two in depth, comprehensiveness, or presentation. |
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08 Apr 10 - 08:31 AM (#2882049) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: GUEST,surreysinger at work Hmm .... thanks for the tips on rolling Edeophones. I can see I shall have to be careful when I have got mine tweaked and am finally using it. In view of the fact that the cheese rolling was cancelled this year, maybe somebody should consider concertina rolling as the new replacement ? |
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08 Apr 10 - 08:45 AM (#2882052) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman sfmans, I did not say that, did I, I said I think my concertina tutor is pretty detailed when it comes to song accompaniment,in fact the two tutors have some twenty songs: some of them showing two different accompaniments for one song,that constitues fairly detailed,in fact I cant think of another tutor for the english concertina that is as strong on song accompaniment. there is no other english concertina tutor as far as I am aware that has as much in depth song accompaniment, sfmans please tell me one that has. |
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08 Apr 10 - 09:01 AM (#2882065) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: SteveMansfield No, Dick, I am not personally aware of any other tutor book which covers the subject of song accompaniment on the concertina, other than that produced by yourself. I apologise for any upset or distress I have accidentally caused you. |
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08 Apr 10 - 09:47 AM (#2882093) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman sfmans ,thankyou. no,not being a flute player I have not seen Greys book,it sounds like an excellent book. I have put up a lot of my songs and some tunes on youtube,this was done to make it easier for people who wished to learn from the tutors or even those who dont wish to buy a tutor,but who wish to learn,I dont make a penny out of putting things up on you tube. I do remember how difficult it was working on my own [when I was a beginner]and how little there was to help newbies,and merely want to help other people,however my genorosity seems to be misunderstood[idont mean you sfmans]as bigheadeness or some other thing,however I will persist mainly because I remember very clearly wondering how the f### do you accompany songs or how do you do this or that technique,through much endeavour and over a long time I worked it out,if other peoples musical journeys are made easier,then its worth it.Dick Miles |
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08 Apr 10 - 10:22 AM (#2882110) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Bryn Pugh Getting a bit paranoid, are we, Dick ? Enjoy your worms. PS - no axe to grind - I try to play the Anglo. Certain Morris Sides don't seem to mind. |
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08 Apr 10 - 10:48 AM (#2882127) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Dave the Gnome Don't forget regional variations, Dick. When you are next in Swinton you will need concertina balm cakes instead of rolls... :D |
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08 Apr 10 - 11:51 AM (#2882156) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Will Fly ... and concertina oatcakes in Stoke... |
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08 Apr 10 - 11:55 AM (#2882161) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman I try and avoid stoke on trent. |
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11 Apr 10 - 08:19 AM (#2884165) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman Another alternative is to play a trill,this can be five notes the notelets say a [b] note followed by a grace note c,the b note another grace note c then the note b. |
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11 Apr 10 - 02:21 PM (#2884330) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Paul Burke One of the best ways (in my horrible opinion) to work out ornamentations is to try to play it as some other instrument would- so Irish piping pops and crans and ghost notes, fiddlers' gurrs, Sligo flute liquidity, melodeon broken runs etc. can all be imitated by other instruments to which they are not native. Though don't go as far as that rather horrible Scots trope of doing Highland bagpipe on the fiddle. |
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11 Apr 10 - 04:20 PM (#2884378) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Artful Codger There's also the sconecertina. |
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12 Apr 10 - 04:07 AM (#2884648) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Fooles Troupe I have to play my sconecertina sitting on the table - It's so heavy, cause my Aunty Jean baked it... |
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12 Apr 10 - 04:15 AM (#2884653) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Dave the Gnome Is that the same Aunty Jean that used to host Tingha and Tucker, the two little bears. Along with Willie Wombat and Katie Kookabora? Ho, ho, Auunty Jean DeG |
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12 Apr 10 - 05:12 AM (#2884669) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Fooles Troupe No - we never got that in Australia - EVERYBODY has an Aunty Jean... oh course, we never called her by that name, cause her name was always something different... :-) |
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04 Sep 10 - 12:44 PM (#2979959) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman here is a mixture of rolls and trills, using a whistle style roll, eaede, cutting with strong index finger, just a different way of doing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=127LHcXaGdI |
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04 Sep 10 - 12:45 PM (#2979961) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=127LHcXaGdI |
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05 Sep 10 - 12:54 PM (#2980440) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Vic Smith Artful Dodger said:- "There's also the sconecertina." Has anyone got a good concertina accompaniment for The Banks of the Sweet Dundee Cake? Something to bring out the fruity quality of the song. |
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05 Sep 10 - 01:07 PM (#2980450) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: Vic Smith For "Dodger" read "Codger"! |
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05 Sep 10 - 05:33 PM (#2980599) Subject: RE: Dick Miles English concertina rolls From: The Sandman no, but i hava a good concertina accompaniment for putting a bun in the oven. |