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15 Apr 10 - 02:00 AM (#2886966) Subject: Flights across UK severe disruption 15/4 From: The Smiler In case Mudcatters haven't seen the news this morning on BBC UK Just seen the news on BBC UK this morning and all flights seem to have been cancelled today in Scotland due to the volcanic ash floating over the UK. They are now saying that literally every airport in England, Wales and Ireland will face bad disruption. So anybody picking people up from airports should keep an eye out as well as those flying today. Seems like Schiphol (Amsterdam) and Belgium are also affected. This the link to the BBC website, although it is well behind the live broadcasting on TV http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8621407.stm |
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15 Apr 10 - 02:19 AM (#2886975) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15/4 From: Ebbie Wow. I know what that's like. In Oregon and Alaska both, eruptions have at times severely curtailed air travel due to volcanic ash. Car engines can also take a bad hit. Good luck Eb |
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15 Apr 10 - 02:29 AM (#2886977) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler They say it's in the upper atmosphere. |
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15 Apr 10 - 03:01 AM (#2886987) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: MartinRyan While waiting to go on stage at a concert in Spiddal, near Galway in the west of Ireland yesterday evening, I was struck by the curious colour of the sunset. Even by the spectacular standards of Galway Bay, it was very striking. Looks like I now know why! Regards |
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15 Apr 10 - 03:02 AM (#2886988) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Rowan They say it's in the upper atmosphere. Which is the altitude at which most intercontinental aircraft fly. Some years ago an Oz pilot over Indonesia had all four engines clag up with ash from Meraki coating the turbine blades and the aircraft dropped to about 3000' (as I recall) before he could 'jump start' any of them. And nobody was equipped with bicycle clips, either. Cheers, Rowan |
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15 Apr 10 - 03:05 AM (#2886991) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: katlaughing When Mt. St. Helens blew in Washington State, our skies in Wyoming clouded up and our cars were covered with ash. Anyone with heart or respiratory problems had to stay in for several days. |
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15 Apr 10 - 03:28 AM (#2886999) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,suzi Hope Skarpi is ok. x |
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15 Apr 10 - 05:06 AM (#2887030) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Arnie I'm sure that on a separate thread, Skarpi told us that it was only a small volcano and not to worry! At the moment, every airport in the UK is closed for business because of the ash causing massive disruption. Skarpi mentioned that the small volcano could set off a larger one next to it - has that happened? Also, we've been predicted a long, hot summer in the UK - will this ash ruin it for us? |
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15 Apr 10 - 05:10 AM (#2887033) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Arnie Further to my above posting, I've just seen the latest message from Skarpi. I hadn't realised things were that bad in Iceland following the latest eruption. I hope Skarpi and his fellow Icelanders come through this safely - puts our flight and weather problems into perspective! |
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15 Apr 10 - 05:35 AM (#2887040) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Backwoodsman "Also, we've been predicted a long, hot summer in the UK" I bet you believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden too, Arnie! :-) LOL! |
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15 Apr 10 - 05:40 AM (#2887043) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Roger the Skiffler These Icelanders, eh? First they ruin our banks, then they ruin our flights, next it will be our weather. Send a gunboat! RtS |
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15 Apr 10 - 06:02 AM (#2887055) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Backwoodsman You forgot about them ruining the Hull and Grimsby fishing industry too, Roger. It's Retribution on a Grand Scale! :-) :-) |
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15 Apr 10 - 07:16 AM (#2887088) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler Been trying to help my friends who were flying to Malta this afternoon from Luton Airport. They had to get the train from Lincolnshire this morning at 8, so too early to know if their flight would go. Managed to get through to Ryanair about half an hour ago and they said that it would be unlikely if any flights resumed much before midday tomorrow. The first available flight to Malta on Saturday. I just caught them at Loughborough train station, just before they boarded the train to Luton. So they are now on there way back home. Ryanair were very good, becuase they said that there was little point going to the airport and they would book them on the next available flight or (wow) give them their money back. |
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15 Apr 10 - 07:36 AM (#2887101) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Backwoodsman My colleague's stuck in Holland, no flights to H/side from Schiphol. He's trying to get on P&O Rotterdam - Hull, but I'd bet everyone else is too! I blame Gordon Brown. |
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15 Apr 10 - 08:08 AM (#2887123) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler Absolutely and the Bankers :-) |
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15 Apr 10 - 08:35 AM (#2887145) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Backwoodsman Yep, them too! :-) |
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15 Apr 10 - 08:37 AM (#2887150) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: SINSULL Multiple threads on this. Maybe a clone can combine them. |
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15 Apr 10 - 09:19 AM (#2887174) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler Well the other threads are about Iceland and Skarpi. This thread is about UK airspace and flights. |
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15 Apr 10 - 09:36 AM (#2887183) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs We flew home from Malaga in the south of Spain on an Aer Lingus flight last night - very lucky as they are all cancelled today. Incidentally, despite a brand new terminal at Malaga Airport, boaring was a shambles for our flight - you would think they would get it right, not helped to some extent by the mob trying to board Ryanair and Easyjet flights in the same section! |
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15 Apr 10 - 09:45 AM (#2887191) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Emma B By this morning, the disruption to air traffic stretched from the UK to Scandinavia. "Airspace was shut down to all but emergency flights from midday to 1800BST (1100-1700 GMT) in the UK. It was also closed in Ireland. Oslo airport, which is Norway's largest, was closed, while Finland's airport agency Finavia said air traffic to northern Sweden and northern Finland was also affected In Denmark, officials said airspace would be closed from 1800 (1600 GMT). There were also reports of major disruption expected in the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium." BBC report The British Lung Foundation's spokesman has recommended anyone living with a lung condition to carry their medication as a precaution although does not feel it poses a major health hazard |
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15 Apr 10 - 10:18 AM (#2887214) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Emma B map of areas affected by ash fallout |
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15 Apr 10 - 10:38 AM (#2887227) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Backwoodsman There are problems for people also because the disruption of flights is causing a flood of travellers trying to book on ferries and Eurostar (it's alleged!). My colleague has been unable to get a booking on either of those - all booked up tonight. Just had a message from him that the earliest he can get a booking on Eurostar is Sunday! |
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15 Apr 10 - 11:20 AM (#2887260) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs I think that had we been flying back today from Malaga we would have seen the problem on the internet (we always take our laptop abroad, and extended our stay in the hotel as necessary. |
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15 Apr 10 - 12:54 PM (#2887311) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler I am sure he will enjoy himself in Amsterdam BWM :-) Dutch and Belgium Airspace closed and France looks as though it is heading in the same direction. |
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15 Apr 10 - 01:01 PM (#2887315) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: open mike When the forest fire in this area created a lot of ash, people were advised to wear masks...which were available at drug stores and also at hardware stores...(in the paint dept.)..the ones that protected from particles the best are N-95. When Mt. St. Helens blew up there was ash several inches deep as far away as Idaho and Montana, 1000 miles. people collected it and you can still find "souveniers" in bottles, test tubes, etc. |
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16 Apr 10 - 01:39 AM (#2887702) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler No flights until at least 19:00 today (Friday) UK time. From little snippets in the news, there seems a possibilty that the ash may still be over the Uk over the weekend, or did I miss hear that. |
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16 Apr 10 - 02:46 AM (#2887722) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Fooles Troupe The famous Galunggung gliding club |
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16 Apr 10 - 02:55 AM (#2887725) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Fooles Troupe Btw, something like 100 planes over the years have had engine trouble from volcanic ash - including at least 2 from St Helens - which is why no planes will fly till the sky clears of volcanic ash. |
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16 Apr 10 - 04:43 AM (#2887768) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: JohnInKansas And the news this morning reports that the "no fly" area has now drifted (extended to) as far as Poland. John |
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16 Apr 10 - 05:12 AM (#2887780) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs One of the problems with airport checkin areas is lack of seating. Certainly at Malaga airport I counted possibly 20 seats and there are 75+ check desks - result.....chaos!! |
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16 Apr 10 - 05:59 AM (#2887805) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Dave the Gnome Latest news - UK flights grounded until at least 0100 tomorrow (17 April). DeG |
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16 Apr 10 - 07:57 AM (#2887858) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Suffet Greetings: We are watching these developments with great concern from here in North America as well. Anne Price and I begin a mini-tour of the London area with our respective spouses on May 6, and we fear our plans may be in jeopardy. But while that is important to us personally, it is only a minor concern compared to the great economic disruption that has already occurred and which can substantially worsen in very short order. Beyond that are the potentially large scale agricultural, public health, and social disasters waiting to happen. The news commentators are already talking about a similar eruption in Iceland in 1783-1784 that killed about one-fifth to one-quarter of that country's human population, up to one-half of its livestock, and which may have contributed to the death of as many as 20,000 people in Ireland, Great Britain, and on the Continent. --- Steve |
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16 Apr 10 - 01:15 PM (#2888053) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: black walnut I'm supposed to be flying to London from Canada on Monday. Somehow I have my doubts....oh well, better late than never, I suppose. ~b.w. |
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16 Apr 10 - 01:21 PM (#2888057) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler Good luck with that BW |
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16 Apr 10 - 02:06 PM (#2888074) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: black walnut Thanks. It is a little bit disconcerting. I'm just about all packed ~ just a couple more items to put in the knapsack. But it's all up to the jet stream at the moment, isn't it? And whether the volcano blows again? It's a long flight over and anything could happen between Toronto and London. Amazing to be at the mercy of nature. It's a good lesson. ~b.w. |
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16 Apr 10 - 03:20 PM (#2888115) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: bubblyrat This sort of thing (volcanos erupting ) has been going on for millions of years,and we ain't dead yet ; we just never relied on air-travel (or any sort of travel) before ----what's the panic ?? |
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16 Apr 10 - 03:32 PM (#2888122) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler As long as my daughter gets home in 2 weeks. Otherwise Skarpi is in big big trouble :-) |
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16 Apr 10 - 04:11 PM (#2888156) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,Seaking The entire UK offshore Oil and Gas industry is equally affected as there have been no helicopter flights since Wednesday. I'm due off next Tuesday so hopefully the situation will be improved by then and the backlog of flights cleared. I feel for those currently unable to return to shore for urgent family matters, compassionates etc. Chris |
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16 Apr 10 - 04:14 PM (#2888157) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Jack Campin This sort of thing (volcanos erupting ) has been going on for millions of years,and we ain't dead yet ; we just never relied on air-travel (or any sort of travel) before ----what's the panic?? Look up what the Laki eruption of 1783-4 did. It blew up before in the 930s on an even bigger scale. For something really big to worry about, look up the eruption of Toba in Sumatra about 70,000 years ago. That came close to making humans extinct. And it's on the same fault where several major volcanic/seismic events have happened in recent decades, like the 2004 earthquake/tsunami. That's just the sort of thing you'd expect in the leadup to a supervolcano eruption. |
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16 Apr 10 - 04:21 PM (#2888162) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler Are we doomed Jack? |
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16 Apr 10 - 05:41 PM (#2888210) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bill D We are certainly doomed... we just don't know the time scale yet.....and whether it will be an asteroid, volcano, the Sun going nova...or North Korea getting hold of some fireworks. |
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16 Apr 10 - 05:47 PM (#2888211) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler Oh Dear |
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17 Apr 10 - 03:16 AM (#2888420) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Backwoodsman Tinfoil hats on, chaps! My colleague got home from Holland a day late, after commandeering a car from a Dutch colleague, driving from 'sGravendeel to Calais, going through the tunnel, then catching a train from Ashford to London, then London to home. I tried most of the day to register a claim for a refund of his air-fare from KLM - the website had no mechanism for doing it, and the answering machine messages said that their customer-service and claims offices were closed! I say let's nuke Iceland. It's all their fault! :-) :-) |
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17 Apr 10 - 03:58 AM (#2888425) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Smiler LOL He was lucky to get on a tunnel train. He certainly did well. |
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17 Apr 10 - 11:50 AM (#2888580) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs Who was on the last flight into the UK on Wednesday night? We arrived at Gatwick from Malaga at 23:20. But flights were still arriving as the queue at immigration never got any shorter! |
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17 Apr 10 - 12:35 PM (#2888613) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Geoff the Duck I found a link to the Met Office running update of the dust cloud and its forecast location for the next day. VOLCANIC DUST FORECAST UK. I am not planning on flying anywhere at present. Quack! Geoff the Duck. |
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17 Apr 10 - 12:59 PM (#2888632) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,PeterC Totally clear sky all day today. Normally by this time in the afternoon the vapour trails would be turning into a thin sheet of cloud. |
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17 Apr 10 - 01:08 PM (#2888638) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: G-Force If we nuked Iceland, where do you think the fallout would go? |
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17 Apr 10 - 01:38 PM (#2888660) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: bubblyrat Both Henley & Marlow are on Heathrow flight-paths (more or less) ,so the skies around here have been blissfully quiet for the past few days, although RAF Benson's Merlins & other "Helos" don't seem to be unduly affected,nor the noisy little glider -tugs from Booker,about a mile away ! Let's return to civilised transport,ie sailing ships and steamers,that's what I say ! |
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17 Apr 10 - 01:48 PM (#2888668) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: skarpi hallo my friends , here is the reason no flights are aloud http://www.visir.is/article/20100417/FRETTIR01/772927764 those pictures are taken at noon on a bright daylight under neath the eruption ..and I know people are not happy about this all but think about this , if this small volcano can make all those problems over the world , how hard is it gonna be if yellowstone goes up ? I hope this will stop soon , just an hour ago I was watching a live camera from the volcano http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/ I it stopped for a moment and then púff again ... sorry I came in here ..... all the best from Skarpi ... |
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17 Apr 10 - 07:50 PM (#2888838) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Seayaker Living near Stratford on Avon we are near Birmingham and Coventry Airports and under the flightpath for Heathrow etc. Walking the dog this morning it was lovely and quiet. I've no complaints |
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17 Apr 10 - 08:06 PM (#2888847) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Fooles Troupe Saw a report earlier on TV that mentioned that since much fresh fruit and veges are flown in to Britain and Europe from elsewhere, there are now massive shortages of same. Proof of the greedy narrow mindedness and short sightedness of profit makers. I have said for a long time that if a market exceeds more than a 10% level in anything that is not local, whether exports or imports, when the shit hits the fan, many will get hurt (Food, Tourism, 'Education', etc). Grow Local, and enjoy a very small amount of 'luxuries' is merely common sense... |
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17 Apr 10 - 08:29 PM (#2888855) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Fooles Troupe "This sort of thing (volcanos erupting ) has been going on for millions of years,and we ain't dead yet ; we just never relied on air-travel (or any sort of travel) before ----what's the panic ??" The panic is now that we DO... |
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18 Apr 10 - 12:55 AM (#2888982) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Rowan sorry I came in here ..... all the best from Skarpi ... Don't you go all apologetic on us skarpi. You just look after yourself. But it'd be nice if you were able to keep posting links to what's happening in your neck of the woods. The lack of flights into or out of Europe has by now created a backlog of stranded Europe-bound passengers in Singapore and Bangkok. I gather the Australians among them are being offered free seats to return to Oz by some airlines. And thanks, Robin, for the link to the info on Flight BA 009; that was the one I mistakenly referred in my earlier post. Cheers, Rowan |
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18 Apr 10 - 02:21 AM (#2889001) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,Abdul home at last We wre returning to UK on what turned out to be the last flight of the day allowed to continue from Dubai and were diverted to Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris (France, as our colonial cousins are wont to say). Anyone know why the Pakistani and Filipino passport holders should be separated at the passport control desk after a lengthy onboard passport check? Al |
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18 Apr 10 - 04:30 AM (#2889030) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,Tunesmith "This sort of thing (volcanos erupting ) has been going on for millions of years,and we ain't dead yet ; we just never relied on air-travel (or any sort of travel) before ----what's the panic ??" In the far distant past, volcanic activity has caused huge wipeouts of creatures. IT HAPPENED BEFORE - IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN! |
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18 Apr 10 - 12:50 PM (#2889185) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs I just wonder how much the Health and Safety nutters have taken over the flight shut down. It would not surprise me one little bit. |
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18 Apr 10 - 02:40 PM (#2889240) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: bubblyrat It now seems that Lufthansa,KLM,and possibly others,are getting impatient,launching their own exploratory test-flights, and claiming that no real threat to airliner safety exists ! Whereas the recent British sampling-flight has detected,albeit in small quantities,different types of identifiable volcanic detritus at various altitudes, and warned against flying through / into it. An over -reaction by the "Health & Safety Nutters" may well have ensued, but I for one wouldn't risk it ; would YOU ?? But I guess someone will, and there may yet be tears.... |
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18 Apr 10 - 03:42 PM (#2889277) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs The historian and broadcaster, Dan Snow has returned to Dover from Calais, with about 25 stranded travellers he rescued using three motorboats. His rescue mission used rigid inflatable boats, known as 'ribs'. He has crossed the Channel to help those affected by flight restrictions, but he said the French police had ordered him not to return. Typical of French red tape!! |
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18 Apr 10 - 04:27 PM (#2889303) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: SPB-Cooperator I am hoping my partner can get home on Wednesday after visiting her friends and family in Prague, |
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18 Apr 10 - 04:37 PM (#2889308) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bainbo The rest of mainland Europe is ok. They can get about by train, car, bus etc. Here in the UK, in my island nation, I'm starting to feel isolated - cut off from the rest of the world. You don't suppose this ash is just a smokescreen (so to speak) and there's something they're not telling us? That we're infected or something? Or just unpopular? Ever see the film 28 Days Later?... |
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18 Apr 10 - 06:59 PM (#2889402) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: The Fooles Troupe "why the Pakistani and Filipino passport holders should be separated at the passport control desk after a lengthy onboard passport check?" I suspect that at least, it might be due to the fact that their nations are not part of the EU? |
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18 Apr 10 - 08:42 PM (#2889446) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: black walnut I guess I find out tomorrow if my ticket to London is going to carry me there for Tuesday morning. I'm not very optimistic, although my bags are packed. ~b.w. |
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19 Apr 10 - 04:12 AM (#2889595) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Suffet Greetings: I am beginning to fear that my long planned visit to the UK with my musical partner Anne Price, our respective spouses, and another couple may not happen. So far our plans remain unchanged, but so does the closure of UK airspace. Sooner or later one or the other will have to give way. And as each update passes, later becomes sooner. --- Steve |
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19 Apr 10 - 04:34 AM (#2889607) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: JohnInKansas News reports in the US (Sunday) predict that about 50% of scheduled flights in affected parts of Europe may be able to resume by "sometime Monday." While the reports don't give many specifics, it would be expected that the first flights will be those that can be (profitably) flown at lower altitudes where the dust is less dense. The airlines have apparently been sending out "scout planes" to explore which routes are usable, and for the most part have reported "no problems" for the routes they've tested. It remains for the regulatory agencies to lift the official ban before commercial carriers can legally fly in the ban areas, so politics still may govern when effective relief for the strandees can begin. John |
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19 Apr 10 - 04:50 AM (#2889611) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Stu "The airlines have apparently been sending out "scout planes" to explore which routes are usable, and for the most part have reported "no problems" for the routes they've tested." Not exactly: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/ This poses an interesting problem; this is a natural catastrophe, and will capitalism be able to rise to the task of dealing with it effectively? The omens are not good as stranded passengers are being give the usual airline treatment of being ignored or infrequent impersonal communications, and the focus is moving to the economic rather than human cost. There seems to be some pressure from the airlines on NATS to allow some flights, and given the contempt the government and the media hold science in these days it remains to be seen whether caution or cost prevail. For those of us living under busy flightpaths, it's been a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see clear blue skies sans vapour trails or roaring jets. That said, let's hope this clears soon and those people can get home. |
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19 Apr 10 - 06:04 AM (#2889657) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Nigel Parsons Reminiscent of the famous, perhaps apocryphal, British newspaper headline which once read "Fog in Channel; Continent Cut Off". |
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19 Apr 10 - 09:06 AM (#2889773) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Mr Happy A news item I saw featured a scientific exploratory flight using a propeller driven aircraft. Is it only jetplanes affected by the ash? |
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19 Apr 10 - 10:05 AM (#2889808) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Abdul The Bul Bul No foolestroupe it can't be that, the flight was from Dubai with many other nationalities aboard. Al |
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19 Apr 10 - 10:29 AM (#2889823) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: black walnut The latest word from my travel agent is that it is "unlikely" that I will be leaving tonight for London, or any time soon. So I'm just waiting now for the official cancellation of my flight. ~b.w. |
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19 Apr 10 - 11:02 AM (#2889839) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Maryrrf I feel really bad for everybody who has been affected. I'm still hoping Brian Peters can make it for his Richmond concert this Saturday, but it's looking doubtful. Being a lover of Child ballads - I've been looking forward to this one ever since we booked him. But I truly feel for the pour souls who are stuck far from home with no idea when they'll get back. Now people's money is starting to run out...Yikes! . I've experienced weather delays and had to spend a couple of nights in airports - but nothing like this! |
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19 Apr 10 - 11:54 AM (#2889872) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: MikeL2 Hi I just heard that the British Government have called in the Navy to help. They are sending three large ships - The Ark Royal and two others to Spain and France. So now it's a mad dash to get people to Santander or Calais. My wife's sister lives near Granada in Southern Spain and they are beeing bused to Santander as I type. Cheers MikeL2 |
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19 Apr 10 - 12:55 PM (#2889903) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: black walnut I'm rebooked for a flight to London very early tomorrow morning, arriving evening. Will it or won't it, that is the question. It's not life or death, it's just that I'm packed and running out of good clothes to wear here. :-) ~b.w. |
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19 Apr 10 - 03:18 PM (#2890013) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: MikeL2 Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: black walnut - PM Date: 19 Apr 10 - 12:55 PM Hi Just heard that UK airspace will be opened tomorrow. They are not absolutely sure yet to what extent and excatly which airports will be open. Here in the Northwest of England we have been told that Manchester and Liverpool will be open at 07.00 tomorrow. Scottish and Irish airports open too. London airports maybe later tomorrow. Best of luck with your trip cheers MikeL2 |
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19 Apr 10 - 06:03 PM (#2890141) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bainbo Apparently there's now a new ash cloud on its way, threatening plans to open airports on Tuesday. I definitely think now that someone's just making all this up as they go along, to keep us segregated. Think I can found a new conspiracy theory? |
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20 Apr 10 - 04:41 AM (#2890461) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs Today at London Gatwick! 08:45 DY3511 COPENHAGEN CANCELLED South Terminal 08:45 EI233 DUBLIN CANCELLED South Terminal 08:50 EZY5263 VENICE CANCELLED South Terminal 09:00 AM5699 ATLANTA CANCELLED North Terminal 09:00 DL11 ATLANTA CANCELLED North Terminal 09:00 KL9090 ATLANTA CANCELLED North Terminal 09:00 MON6478 BANJUL CANCELLED South Terminal 09:00 MON6842 AQABA CANCELLED South Terminal 09:00 TCX214K DALAMAN CANCELLED South Terminal 09:05 SZ103 PLYMOUTH AND NEWQUAY CANCELLED North Terminal 09:10 DY1303 OSLO CANCELLED South Terminal 09:10 EZY5085 ATHENS CANCELLED South Terminal 09:15 TOM074 CANCUN CANCELLED North Terminal 09:20 TOM4224 TENERIFE CANCELLED North Terminal 09:20 TOM726 SHARM EL SHEIKH CANCELLED North Terminal 09:20 VS031 ST LUCIA CANCELLED South Terminal 09:25 BA4451 BUDAPEST CANCELLED North Terminal 09:25 MA613 BUDAPEST CANCELLED North Terminal 09:30 MON4206 SHARM EL 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20 Apr 10 - 05:43 AM (#2890487) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Backwoodsman Oh. |
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20 Apr 10 - 06:44 AM (#2890510) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs Over one quarter of those flights are easyjet would you believe! |
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20 Apr 10 - 06:45 AM (#2890512) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: mandotim In answer to Mr Happy; Jet planes and turboprops are affected more severely than prop driven aircraft. The reason is that the rock and silica particles melt at jet engine temperatures, then solidify on the turbine blades in the engine. This can cause imbalance, vibration, seizing and engine shutdown. In a piston engined plane, the air filter takes care of most of this, and if that is changed regularly there shouldn't be a problem. On a wider point; there is still no solid research evidence one way or the other about whether it is safe to fly at the moment, just predictions from Met Office models and inconclusive findings from a couple of publicity stunt flights by the airlines. This is counterbalanced by reports of military aircraft having problems. The decision to reopen air travel seems to have been taken on the grounds that the shutdown is costing the airlines a great deal of money (they have lobbied very hard indeed), and the travelling public are being greatly inconvenienced. History suggests that when we let profit-motivated business organisations take the prime role in what are essentially moral decisions, people suffer and occasionally die. I have a bad feeling about this one. Tim |
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20 Apr 10 - 07:26 AM (#2890532) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bonzo3legs I have a bad feeling about it too, I think we were very lucky to fly home last Wednesday evening. However, the media only reports half the story, and framed in a way to sell newspapers and get TV viewers. There is more to this than meets the eye. |
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20 Apr 10 - 08:20 AM (#2890560) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: mandotim Airlines have an excellent safety record generally; but I have a relative who is a high-end consultant engineer. He used to do a lot of work with airlines on planned maintenance strategies. He doesn't now, on the grounds that he doesn't want to prejudice his professional reputation. He lives and works in the States, and travels about 150,000 miles a year on business in the USA; all by road. He used to fly, but since the cash squeeze hit the airlines, he doesn't. Draw your own conclusions. |
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20 Apr 10 - 08:34 AM (#2890569) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,Jim Martin At the end of the day, I think I'm correct in saying the buck stops with the pilot (& the pilots' unions). If they aren't happy with a situation, we aint going nowhere buddies! |
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20 Apr 10 - 02:31 PM (#2890752) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,Guest The smiler What is annoying is that you are told to ring the airlines. You do and you are paying high rates and then you are told that there is nobody to deal with your problem. How TF are you supposed to get in touch with them. |
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20 Apr 10 - 03:45 PM (#2890802) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: McGrath of Harlow The rest of mainland Europe is ok. They can get about by train, car, bus etc. Here in the UK, in my island nation, I'm starting to feel isolated. No need. There's a Channel Tunnel, after all. And plenty of boats. All this is excellenet preparation for the future we're going to face a few years down the line when the oil runs out. I heard that at the school my son used to go to there are at least nine teachers unable to get back from abroad after the school holidays. I rather suspect they won't be broken-hearted... |
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20 Apr 10 - 05:08 PM (#2890868) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Suffet This is from the Heathrow Airport website: Airspace restrictions update Last updated: 20:50 BST, Tuesday 20 April 20:10 The Civil Aviation Authority has approved the opening of UK airspace from 22:00 today. We are ready to open, but until further notice passengers must contact their airlines before travelling to the airport. Not all flights will operate during the early period of opening, and we will be doing everything we can to support airlines and get people moving. Let's hope so! --- Steve |
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21 Apr 10 - 03:26 AM (#2891155) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Geoff the Duck Planes are flying - some people are getting back home. NATS- who do the air traffic control promise a new update at 9.00 BST (about 40 minutes from this posting). http://www.nats.co.uk/ Quack! GtD. |
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21 Apr 10 - 07:46 AM (#2891260) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,black walnut I flew from Toronto yesterday early (I had to get up at 3:30 AM for it), then my flight was diverted from Gatwick to NEWCASTLE. Were we on the news? Was I on the news? That was me waving to the cameras with a big smile as I ran for the bus that drove us right away to Gatwick. Another 7 hours into London. I wasn't smiling then. No, I was laughing hysterically with tears rolling down my face...very tired and very giddy and I was sitting beside someone on the bus who was very very funny! So Toronto to London was a 26 hour trip. I'm trying to sleep now but there is construction in the flat right above me. Louder than a dentist's drill. But it's time for a cuppa peppermint tea (rather than my usual morning blast of coffee) and then back to bed, and hopefully to sleep. I need sleep so bad. Ohhhhh...now there's poppy rock music along with the drilling. Niiiiice. ~black walnut |
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21 Apr 10 - 12:03 PM (#2891398) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: MikeL2 Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,black walnut - PM Date: 21 Apr 10 - 07:46 AM Hi I think I have just seen your plane landing. It was on the news as the first passengers to land in England since the " Ash Ban". Couldn't see you waving.....lol Well done.....you now deserve a rest. regards MikeL2 |
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21 Apr 10 - 12:34 PM (#2891423) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: black walnut How awesome is that? We were the first guinea pigs! And you saw us land! Let me tell you, it's not that much fun being a guinea pig. The bus ride to London from Newcastle was longer than the flight across from Toronto to Newcastle, and they didn't serve a hot meal. LOL! But landing at Newcastle was better than the pilot's Plan B, which was going to be landing in Ireland. I'm not sure how I would have gotten to London from Ireland! Time for another nap now....zzzzzzzz ~b.w. |
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21 Apr 10 - 02:22 PM (#2891506) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: MikeL2 hi bw I don't suppose you have time to try the local ale?? Newcastle Brown is famed through-out the UK as a good strong beer. Two or three bottles of that and your coach journey would have been more enjoyable. cheers MikeL2 |
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21 Apr 10 - 03:33 PM (#2891566) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: Bainbo Only if there was a toilet on the coach. Otherwise a long coach journey after two or three bottles ... |
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21 Apr 10 - 03:53 PM (#2891574) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,The smiler Newcastle Airport. I thought my life was coming to an end on that runway many years ago. I was flying British Caledonia from Edinburgh to Amsterdam. The route was Edinburgh, Newcastle, Amsterdam. There was a gail on and we had to land with the wind across the runway. The plane was floating left to right and the nearer we got to landing the worse it got. I said my "Mother" as I closed my eyes and counted to 10. What a brilliant pilot. Somehow he managed it and I think there were a few people with brown trousers (well it smelt like it). |
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21 Apr 10 - 05:16 PM (#2891620) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST When our plane landed last night in Newcastle, everybody applauded. I guess we were just glad to get down to solid ground, no matter where we were. When you're flying across the Atlantic, and they tell you that the airports are closed (duh) in England, first you wonder why you're on the plane, then you wonder if you'll hit dry land. Just handy that it was England and not some other island. :-) ~b.w. |
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22 Apr 10 - 09:16 AM (#2892025) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,black walnut So I guess it's all old news now? Most things are flying again? That's good, although I do love the awesome power of Mother Nature. ~b.w. |
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22 Apr 10 - 11:29 AM (#2892092) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,The Smiler This is new RAF Typhoon training halted as ash found in engine |
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22 Apr 10 - 12:31 PM (#2892133) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: open mike i heard that passengers with tickets were let to fly first, and ones who had been waiting for days had to continue waiting...shouldn't it be first come first serve?? take a bus, indeed! or train! or boat! hard to imaging how many thousands (millions?) of people were stranded some volcanos erupt for years... |
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22 Apr 10 - 12:36 PM (#2892140) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,black walnut You're abolutely correct about the order of passengers. I only had to wait one overnight for my flight. But our plane was only half full. I think that many thought that it wouldn't fly despite what it was saying at the Air Transat website. Or they were too scared. I think they would have filled the plane if there had been people waiting to get on at Pearson, but I didn't see anyone camping out. ~b.w. |
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22 Apr 10 - 12:39 PM (#2892143) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,black walnut - P.S. P.S. Interesting about the Lincolnshire trainers, Smiler. ~b.w. |
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22 Apr 10 - 01:21 PM (#2892170) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,Peter Laban So I guess it's all old news now? Maybe it is. RAF halts training flights though, after ash was found in the engine of Typhoon jet. No commercial pressure there, so they can go for the safe option? |
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22 Apr 10 - 01:22 PM (#2892172) Subject: RE: Flights across UK severe disruption 15 April From: GUEST,Peter Laban 100 |
