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10 Aug 99 - 11:06 PM (#103867) Subject: Stone Soup Origins From: Susan A-R I learned a song called Stone Soup some years back, which tells the classic stone soup story. I don't know who wrote it, and would like to. The song as I recall it goes The Story begins in a poor little town With a couple of soldiers hangin' around Tired and hungry goin' door to door Beggin for food. They say "We got no more." So they built a little fire in the middle of the square Set a pot full of water and some rocks right there Sat back, rolling up a couple of cigarettes Lookin' like they hadn't a care Lookin' like they hadn't a care. Any idea whose it is?? |
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11 Aug 99 - 03:02 AM (#103908) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Ana No - no idea at all either!...but it's the old story of "you know when a Pukeko's (native NZ swamp bird) ready to eat by throwing a couple of stones into the boiling water and - yip, when they're tender the Pukeko's ready to eat. Guess every country's got that one! |
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11 Aug 99 - 04:55 AM (#103916) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: michelle_lockhart@peoplemag.com Stone Soup is a delightful story I first heard read on Captain Kangaroo as a little girl. THey've recently republished the little book, exactly as it was then, and it's being sold at chain bookstores. Just search for it at Amazon.com or at your local bookstore. It's an enchanting story, delightfully told. Or e-mail me, I'll try to remember to check for the title and author. Michelle |
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11 Aug 99 - 05:51 AM (#103918) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Helen Hi, it's the wonderful Michelle from peoplemag! Fancy seeing you here and not just on the harplist. Welcome to Mudcat. I think you'll like it here - the people are friendly, they know everything there is to know about everything, but what they don't know....well, never let the truth get in the way of a good story. They're good at thread creep too - which I'm probably guilty of here - talking about things which don't actually relate to the thread. So, I hope we see lots more of you here. Kind regards Helen, in Australia |
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11 Aug 99 - 08:10 AM (#103923) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Dave Pete Seeger may be associated with Stone Soup in some way, perhaps with the lyric. I know that the soup itself has been a popular feature of every Hudson River Sloop Clearwater Pumpkin Sail for the last 30 years. |
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11 Aug 99 - 12:32 PM (#103988) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Bert Hi 'chelle, Welcome aboard. Bert. |
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11 Aug 99 - 02:53 PM (#104018) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Barbara There's a song, Stone Soup, by Shel Silverstein, but it's not that one, and it seems to me like there's another -- also not that one -- by Malvina Reynolds, or maybe Raffi?? Blessings, Barbara |
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11 Aug 99 - 04:19 PM (#104037) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Lorne Brown A great rewriting of the tale has been published by Kids Can press in Toronto (1995) by Toronto storyteller Aubrey Davis. He calls it "Bone Button Borsch" and it's well worth the getting (or the hearing if you come across Aubrey). |
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15 Aug 99 - 06:56 PM (#105286) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Philippa Yeats (I think, or Lady Gregory?)had a play based on the stone soup story, so I thought it was an Irish legend? It would be nice to learn the song version/s if anyone can supply lyrics and tunes. |
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15 Aug 99 - 06:59 PM (#105288) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Philippa Yeats and Gregory co-authored "A Pot of Broth" (1902) |
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20 Aug 99 - 11:46 AM (#106880) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Shimbo Dr. Hook put out an excellent song called "The Wonderful Soup Stone", or something like that Incidentally, Ana, in Australia we throw a stone in when cooking a galah. But, after three days of cooking, we throw out the galah, and eat the stone! |
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20 Aug 99 - 12:57 PM (#106909) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: JedMarum Interesting thread .. but no recipes?? |
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20 Aug 99 - 01:16 PM (#106918) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: MMario the recipe is simple.... 1 stone - washed well (polishing optional) water - sufficient unto the day other things as whim dictates place water in pot. add stone. heat to a simmer. add other things a whim. fancy and time allow. simmer until smells tempting and any garnish is done. serve. reserve stone for next batch. I want the lyrics and tune!
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20 Aug 99 - 02:46 PM (#106940) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Barbara I can do you Shel Silverstein's, (and I suspect that's the Dr Hook one since they also recorded such Silverstein classics as Sylvia's Mother) but that isn't the one Susan asked for. Blessings, Barbara |
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20 Aug 99 - 11:27 PM (#107079) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Dick Wisan Didn't know it was a song. I heard the story with a Russian provenance. Only it was nail soup. Beggar claims to be onetime cook to the Tsar, fallen on hard times. Begs a little water and use of the fire, offering to teach lady how to make soup from a nail. He has the nail, but it's better if you put a bit of cabbage in. The Tsar particularly liked it that way. Then the Tsarina liked it with a bit of onion and potato. And, the Tsarevich liked a little meat in it... I take it, this is the same story.
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20 Aug 99 - 11:37 PM (#107084) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Anne And there is the Stone Soup Coffeeouse in Providence RI... Anne |
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22 Aug 99 - 10:35 PM (#107592) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Susan A-R Hmmm, here are the lyrics as I remember them. Story begins with a poor little town With a couple of soldiers hanging around Tired and hungry, going door to door Begging for food. they say "we got no more." So they built a little fire in the middle of the square Got a pot full of water, and a rock right there Sat back, rolling up a couple of cigarettes Looking like they hadn't a care (2x) Now the street was quiet in the afternoon, 'cept for one of the soldiers was a humming a tune But from every window, underneath the drape There was an eyeball peeping and a mouth agape And a chorus of whispers rising up in the air "say whatcha think the're cooking in the middle of the square? Somebody maybe ought to help them out They might be willing to share (2x) "It was your idea, why don't you go scout?" "You're tha man of the nouse, now go find out." Finally a kid pipes up from the stoop "Say what you fellows cooking?" and they say "Stone soup." "Stone soup, we've never heard of that. Tell us where'd you get the recipe at" They say "Trust us, it's great, and there's plenty for you, But we sure could use a potato or two" Now the kid pipes up "We've got spuds in the bin." "Bring em out, bring em out and you guys are in." "How 'bout some onions" comes a voice down the street. "Bring em out, bring em out and there'll be plenty to eat." ??? One had a bottle and an old guitar, Now some people really didn't have any food, But one of them had a load of firewood. And the soup was good and the wine was strong And everybody learned the soldier's song And they partied all night in the middle of the square til the sun came rising up There's more, but that's about all I have in my memory banks. Susan |
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23 Aug 99 - 08:44 AM (#107658) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Philippa who composed the song from Susan A-R? I wouldn't mind seeing the Silverstein/Dr Hook lyrics (and any others) as well |
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23 Aug 99 - 10:35 PM (#107876) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Susan A-R Um, that was my original question. Whodunit???? |
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23 Aug 99 - 10:53 PM (#107883) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Matthew B. The oldest version of the Stone Soup story that I've encountered is from 17th century France, which I always assumed to be the "original" version (if there ever is such a thing in folklore). Surprisingly, that same version, nearly 400 years old by now, is virtually identical to the one still found today in children's story books. Oh, and the latest version I've encountered was the Disney version, "Button Soup" -- with Donald Duck's uncle as the old miser who keeps bringing out the soup's ingredients from hiding places in his mansion. I liked the French version better. |
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30 Nov 99 - 04:50 PM (#142809) Subject: Lyr Add: A LITTLE A THIS 'N' THAT (Pete Seeger) From: MMario Found this today.... A LITTLE A THIS ‘N’ THAT Words and music by Pete Seeger My grandma she can make a soup With a little a this ‘n’ that She can feed the whole sloop group With a little a this ‘n’ that Stone soup! You know the story Stone soup! Who needs the glory? But with grandma cookin' no need to worry! Just a little a this ‘n’ that Grandma likes to make a garden grow With a little a this ‘n’ that But she likes to have the ground just so With a little a this ‘n’ that Not too loose and not too firm In the spring it s all got to be turned In the fall lots of compost to feed the worms With a little a this ‘n’ that Grandma knows we can build a future With a little a this ‘n’ that And a few arguments never, never hurt ya With a little a this ‘n’ that True this world's in a hell of a fix And some say oil and water don't mix But they don't know a saladmaker's tricks With a little a this ‘n’ that The world to come may be like a song With a little a this ‘n’ that To make everybody want to sing along With a little a this ‘n’ that A little dissonance ain't no sin A little skylarking to give us all a grin Who knows But God's got a plan for the people to win With a little a this ‘n’ that Repeat 1st verse ©1991 Sanga Music, Inc (BMI) All Rights Reserved. |
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30 Nov 99 - 06:21 PM (#142847) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: M. Ted (inactive) I was going to say that the story is in the Grimm's Fairytales translation by Jack Zipes--which includes real translations of all the tales(as opposed to Disney-like rewrites)--but he also has a translation of the Perault's work from 1697, which was the first literary collection of folk tales, and French, to boot, so it will be there, as well.. I love this story, which is really an amazing commentary on people and distrust, soldiers, and community building--the first reaction is to laugh and say how cleverly the soldiers tricked the townspeople--and got a free meal, but in the end, but the soldiers really used a trick to organize the townspeople and get them to work together in a way that they couldn't do because of their mistrust for one another(as well as their suspicion of the soldiers)-- This sort of thing is what makes folk music and folk tales so appealing to me--the stories and songs, even the most familiar ones, just keep speaking to us--the more you look, the more you find--and the themes just keep popping up-- |
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30 Nov 99 - 10:00 PM (#142940) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Susan A-R I would still like to figure out who wrote the original song I posted, as I'd like to find out if I can use it in an article. Any ideas?? |
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01 Dec 99 - 12:41 AM (#143045) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: M. Ted (inactive) There was a "Stone Soup" song on Tom Chapin's Mother Earth Album, but I am not sure if it was this one, or not--(sorry for the drift-it is so easy!) |
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01 Dec 99 - 10:05 PM (#143472) Subject: RE: Stone Soup Origins From: Susan A-R And fun, and interesting. I've enjoyed it too, but I wanna knoooowww |