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18 May 10 - 10:29 PM (#2909642) Subject: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: Beer I don't think this subject has been started so i will give a link to the latest. I am not an activist but have to say that this is great news. I want to find a way to write to these parties and say thank you on behalf of a low Joe on the pole of things. Beer (adrien) http://www.thestar.com/business/article/811122--forest-companies-and-environmentalists-agree-to-save-boreal-forest |
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18 May 10 - 11:03 PM (#2909658) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: katlaughing That IS great news! Thanks for passing it on. |
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19 May 10 - 02:15 AM (#2909708) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: Sandy Mc Lean The boreal forest of Canada's northern regions is vast but of small value for timber because of stunted growth. It serves mankind as a great air filter removing huge amounts of carbon and returning oxygen to our atmosphere. It is perhaps in greatest danger of being used as biomass to generate "CLEAN" electricity. An oxymoron of great dimension indeed! Yes, great news! |
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19 May 10 - 04:05 PM (#2910094) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: bankley Daughter Audrey's place of work 'Earthroots' is an environmental org. based out of Toronto.. they've been pushing for something like this for years. They're involved in a lot of Ontario based issues concerning the environment... check 'em out... R. |
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19 May 10 - 04:08 PM (#2910097) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: bankley " The Boreal forest lies in splinters, clear-cut beyond recognition The spreading waste leaves a bitter taste in the sawdust of lost tradition" from "The Spell" on the Insurgent Sun CD |
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19 May 10 - 04:23 PM (#2910107) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: gnu Hopefully, "both sides" will listen to each other. A while back, a bunch of tree huggers blocked woods roads here in New Brunswick. Old growth forest. That same forest blew down a few months later in a windstorm and 6B cubic metres of timber was knocked down. Now, I know Mom Nature is queen, but the timber companies were right on that one, IF proper harvesting was done. Conversely, as I have said on other threads, the past deeds of the timber companies have been appaling... especially when it comes to destroying the habitat of trout, salmon and others. "Overfishing"? Yes, but not near as bad as what the world's giant lumber companies did to spawning grounds in my province. If the fish can't spawn due to siltation of the waters due to greed, even the rich bastards will eventually starve. |
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19 May 10 - 04:39 PM (#2910120) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: McGrath of Harlow Trees getting blown down by the wind and rotting away is an essential part of the life-cycle of natural forests. It's not waste, it's how forests regenerate themselves. Here's the story in The Guardian yesterday Canadian logging campaigners end protest with unprecedented forest truce Congratulations! |
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19 May 10 - 05:15 PM (#2910147) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: mousethief If a Tree Falls Bruce Cockburn Rain forest Mist and mystery Teeming green Green brain facing lobotomy Climate control centre for the world Ancient cord of coexistence Hacked by parasitic greedhead scam - From Sarawak to Amazonas Costa Rica to mangy B.C. hills - Cortege rhythm of falling timber. What kind of currency grows in these new deserts, These brand new flood plains? If a tree falls in the forest does anybody hear? If a tree falls in the forest does anybody hear? Anybody hear the forest fall? Cut and move on Cut and move on Take out trees Take out wildlife at a rate of species every single day Take out people who've lived with this for 100,000 years - Inject a billion burgers worth of beef - Grain eaters - methane dispensers. Through thinning ozone, Waves fall on wrinkled earth - Gravity, light, ancient refuse of stars, Speak of a drowning - But this, this is something other. Busy monster eats dark holes in the spirit world Where wild things have to go To disappear Forever If a tree falls in the forest does anybody hear? If a tree falls in the forest does anybody hear? Anybody hear the forest fall? |
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19 May 10 - 05:35 PM (#2910154) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: gnu McGrath... "Trees getting blown down by the wind and rotting away is an essential part of the life-cycle of natural forests. It's not waste, it's how forests regenerate themselves." There ya go... you missed the whole point of proper sylviculture. Having SIX BILLION CUBIC METRES of of old growth die in one night is not helping any plant or animal, including man. Fact is, such is just as bad for the spawning grounds and flora and fauna as any timber company ever did... actually worse, given the timber laws that were put in place years ago. The only difference is the time line. The sylviculture time line is far better. I have seen the devastation first hand for over 40 years... many many miles of it and I have shed tears. Time for me to take those terrible memories and say gnightgnu. I just hope a balance is acheived. I hope both sides listen well. |
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19 May 10 - 06:35 PM (#2910196) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: McGrath of Harlow Forest fires, and their aftermath, look terrible too - but they are a key part of how forest ecologies work. |
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19 May 10 - 08:30 PM (#2910269) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: GUEST,bankley Didn't Svend Robinson once try to chain himself to a burly BC logger ? Ha,ha and Bill Reid threatened to stop work on 'The Spirit of Haida Gwaii' sculpture.. until logging stopped on South Moresby Island (formerly know as the Queen Charlotte Islands).. a park was eventually established through concerted and sustained actiivism... Bill finished that work which is the centerpiece of the Canadian embassy in DC, and its image graces our $20 bill.... well it's that or the Queen on the flip side.... |
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19 May 10 - 11:00 PM (#2910328) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: Q (Frank Staplin) A misleading story- Not reported in the press in Alberta, where Mitsubichi of Japan has been cutting for years for pulp, and a few tiny portions bordering the prairie farms are included in the agreement. The Tar Sands, now the number one source of hydrocarbons to the U. S. (and where two Chinese companies hold or share large leases), are located in the Boreal forest zones of Alberta and Saskatchewan. This agreement only covers part of the southern portions of the Boreal Forest. The map with this article shows the entire area of northern Alberta as "intact' Boreal forest, which is sadly incorrect. The "intact" areas of other provinces could be let to pulp and paper companies since they are not covered by any agreement. Forest agreement |
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19 May 10 - 11:11 PM (#2910332) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: Q (Frank Staplin) Note in addition- fly over the northern Boreal Forest (I hope just in Alberta) and it is criss-crossed by seismic lines, exploration roads, and the clear-cut blocks logged for pulp wood by Mitsubichi and other concerns. Now that diamonds are being found in quantity (and more area being explored), another thread to the Boreal forest is looming large. (They are good quality diamonds- one company marks theirs with a tiny microscopic bear- whose habitat is seriously diminished by all the activity). |
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20 May 10 - 06:34 PM (#2910876) Subject: RE: BS: Saving the Borealis Forest From: Q (Frank Staplin) refresh |