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21 Jun 10 - 11:42 AM (#2931996) Subject: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Gutcher During my recent travels the name KINEGAR caught my attention,the term "Kinegar Slashers" immediately came to mind. Could this be the bye name of an army regiment[fictional perhaps] or the name of a tune --Irish?? Joe. |
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21 Jun 10 - 11:56 AM (#2932007) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Dave Hanson It says ' Kinnegad Slashers ' in O'Neills 1001 Gems, it's a double jig. Dave H |
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21 Jun 10 - 12:13 PM (#2932024) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: GUEST,Peter Laban It's the Kinnegad slashers, after the town in Westmeath. O'Neill copied his version from the much older O' Farrell's Pocket Companion. |
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21 Jun 10 - 02:05 PM (#2932085) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Paul Burke A quick yodel- sorry google- got me this explanation: Gearóid Ó hAllmhuráin proposes that this tune was originally dedicated to the Kinnegad, Westmeath, hurling team (hurling being played with ash sticks in a decidedly rough-and-tumble encounter!). However, the title may actually honor an Irish yeomanry unit called the Kinnegad Cavalry, who, on July 11th, 1798, found themselves in defence of Clonard against the rebels. The attack of the United Irishmen was repulsed and the attackers dispersed, whereupon the cavalry of the Kinnegad Yeomen pursued them with much slaughter. Their success in this engagement earned them the sobriquet of Kinnegad Slashers. The Journal for Army Historical Research, Vol. IV, gives that "a lively melody, still popular in Ireland, was named The Kinnegad Slashers in complimentary commemoration of the achievements of that corps at Clonard." And I'm grateful for you moving me to look it up, as I haven't come across Andrew Kunz's Fiddler's Companione, which looks like a very useful resource. However, a more prosaic explanation of the name would have referred to the quantity of Guinness consumed in Kinnegad, and its consequences on the walk homeward. |
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22 Jun 10 - 06:14 AM (#2932527) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Mr Happy .......so those'd be forward slashes?? |
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23 Jun 10 - 02:49 AM (#2933051) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: GUEST,^&* In my days in the Irish Midlands, I used occasionally hear a rhyme that went: They say that Naas is a terrible place Kilcock is just as bad But of all the places I've ever been Bejaysus - Kinnegad! |
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19 Dec 13 - 06:07 AM (#3585380) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: GUEST,Noel It was also the regimental tune of the The Gloucestershre Regiment until they were merged into the RGBW in the 90's and now The Rifles. |
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19 Dec 13 - 06:16 AM (#3585381) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Jack Campin Kuntz's stuff is entirely unchecked - far less reliable than Wikipedia. Basically he just assembled urban legends from the Irish session scene and hoped that if he got enough of them they'd amount to actual knowledge. |
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19 Dec 13 - 06:55 AM (#3585387) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Bonnie Shaljean More info here on the tune, including the dots if you want them (click on any of the five "sheet music" buttons) - but note Jack's caveat, because it's bound to apply here too. You have to be careful with any of these sites which offer user-generated content. That said, it's a great online source for music, and a tune is a tune. http://thesession.org/tunes/1258 |
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19 Dec 13 - 07:11 AM (#3585395) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: The Sandman Iplay this tune the third part seem more typical of nothumbrian tunes |
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19 Dec 13 - 02:07 PM (#3585491) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: GUEST,kenny Further from guest post above made on 23 June 10, there's a bit in the film "The Boys And Girl From The County Clare" where a guy steps up on to a stage at a competition to test if a microphone is working and says [ if I remember correctly, and without checking ] : "Ballinasloe is no place to go. Bunclody's not too bad. Lisnaskea is a nice place to be. But f*ck me....................Kinnegad". [ with apologies to anyone from Kinnegad ! ] |
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19 Dec 13 - 04:54 PM (#3585520) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Steve Shaw It's a grand jig, which I know as a two-part tune. I know it's been used as a marching band tune. Among the great bands to have recorded this tune are Alias Ron Kavana and Danu. |
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20 Dec 13 - 04:46 AM (#3585599) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: GUEST,Peter Laban The third part appears to have picked up in popularity after Gearóid Ó hAllmhuráin recorded the three part version that was published in Levey's first collection. I prefer the two part version, maybe because that's how I originally learned the tune, but will follow the third part if need be. I remember an rumour of a certain RTE presenter with a tendency to wickedly deform tune titles having his knuckles rapped after announcing the Kinnegad Flashers on air (that was during the eighties). |
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20 Dec 13 - 09:39 AM (#3585639) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Jack Campin I can see that catching on. Accompanying actions rather like the "Hi-ho" in Dingle Regatta, only involving overcoats. |
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20 Dec 13 - 10:24 AM (#3585647) Subject: RE: 'Kinegar Slashers' From: Bonnie Shaljean Brilliant - wish Mudcat had a Like button for individual posts... |