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25 Jul 10 - 05:33 AM (#2951751) Subject: Folklore: Eamon Na Chnoic From: Dave Hanson I've just learned to play this beautiful tune, in English it's called ' Ned Of The Hill ' can anyone tell me how is it pronounced in Irish ? Thanks, Dave H |
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25 Jul 10 - 11:48 AM (#2951877) Subject: RE: Eamon Na Chnoic From: GUEST,thebarleymow It is usually pronounced as follows :- Eamon Na Konic That is how I have always heard it but, although I am from Northern Ireland I do not have the Gaelic, so it may not be strictly accurate. It will however be recognised and understood. A beautiful tune. There are words to it as well, but I have to say that I have never been fussed on it as a song. |
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25 Jul 10 - 12:00 PM (#2951880) Subject: RE: Eamon Na Chnoic From: Lighter Almost the same melody as "Caitlin Triall," as played by the Chieftains. |
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25 Jul 10 - 01:02 PM (#2951905) Subject: RE: Eamon Na Chnoic From: Emma B Éamonn an Chnoic is a beautiful song and has long been one of my favourites The song is said to concern Éamonn Ó Riain (Edmund Ryan), an Irish aristocrat who lived in County Tipperary from 1670–1724 and led a bandit or rapparee gang. The original song is in Irish and there are some pretty awful ' translations / interpretations I prefer the version which highlight the failure of Ó Riain's countrymen to come to rally to his defense and more strongly emphasize that Ó Riain had been a man of wealth and influence rather than the often heard 'parlour' sentimental 'love song' with 'light fairies tread" "Oh who is without That with passionate shout Keeps beating my bolted door?" "I am Ned of the Hill Forspent wet and chill From long trudging marsh and moor." "My love, fond and true What else could I do But shield you from wind and from weather? When the shots fall like hail They us both shall assail And mayhap we shall die together." "Through forest and through snow Tired and hunted I go In fear both from friend and from neighbor My horses run wild My acres untilled And they all of them lost to my labor But it grieves me far more Than the loss of my store That there's none who would shield me from danger So my fate it must be To fare eastward o'er sea And languish amid the stranger" |
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26 Jul 10 - 10:45 AM (#2952453) Subject: RE: Eamon Na Chnoic From: mayomick He helped restore money to a well-connected woman who had been robbed . She successfully pleaded that the bounty on him be lifted ,but tragically it was too late. A relative of O'Riann, who hadn't heard there was no money to be had , killed him and cut his head off for the reward. I like that translation as well Emma which I think was made fairly recently by Donal O' Sullivan . Am I right about that? These two lines from the second verse I don't like. My horses run wild My acres untilled It seems unfortunate to me that the words "untilled" and wild don't rhyme . I can't think of a time when the two words ever would have rhymed in English as it is spoken in Ireland . The two lines comes across as artificially archaic to me . But modernity will always win out in due course. I see that you can now get this most beautiful tune as a ringtone for your mobile phone . There's progress for you! |