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help needed downloading a MIDI

04 Aug 10 - 10:58 AM (#2957987)
Subject: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

Yesterday I asked myself whether a person could play the famous Largo from Vivaldi's lute concerto on a dulcimer. So I found a MIDI file on the web (the only one, I believe) and tried to download it.

This is the page that it's on:

http://www.free-scores.com/download-sheet-music.php?pdf=8349

(The link to the MIDI is in pale gray print to the right of the picture of a piece of music.)

The trouble is, the web page gave the file the extension '.MIDI' rather than '.MID'

After I've saved it, it's sitting in My Documents, but Noteworthy Composer can't open it because of that extraneous I at the the end of the name.

Does anybody know how to change that name so it will open in Noteworthy? Or post it here so I can download it?

(I have printed the PDF, but it's in F. Having the MIDI file would save me a lot of time.)


04 Aug 10 - 11:01 AM (#2957988)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: MMario

right click on the file, choose rename, delete the extra i.


04 Aug 10 - 12:57 PM (#2958075)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

tried that


04 Aug 10 - 01:15 PM (#2958093)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Monique

Leeneia, could you please email me at monique at mamalisa dot com so I can email it to you?


04 Aug 10 - 01:22 PM (#2958098)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Bernard

All you do is rename it in the 'Save As' box - in other words, BEFORE you download it instead of after.

I suspect your rename didn't work because filename extensions aren't displayed, so it's a lot less faff to do it as you're saving instead of afterwards!


04 Aug 10 - 01:31 PM (#2958105)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

Okay, it came in. Your tip was what helped, Bernard. (Funny that I could save it as 'lute fave.mid' and then enter 'mid' again in the next box.)

Thanks for your kind offer, Monique, but it's not needed now.

Now to change the key and see if the accidentals are to found on a fretted dulcimer.

Um, what does faff mean?


04 Aug 10 - 02:12 PM (#2958145)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

'Tis done!

This is a surprisingly easy piece of music. There's only one note I can't play on my dulcimer - a B flat. It is probably not critical to the piece, and has already accidentally-on-purpose been converted to an A.

By the way, I heard this performed on Friday, with lute, violins and cello. It was so, so beautiful.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


04 Aug 10 - 04:11 PM (#2958273)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Geoff the Duck

Faff - common usage in Yorkshire (not sure about other parts of UK) - needless over-involved messing about when trying to get done what should be a simple job.
Example of usage :-
"He's been faffing about all afternoon with that car engine. If he'd asked me I could have had it fixed in minutes..."
Quack!
GtD.


04 Aug 10 - 05:26 PM (#2958344)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: pavane

If you feed it into my program (HARMONY) you might be able to transpose to a key where you have all the notes. Not sure, because I don't know how your instrument is tuned.


04 Aug 10 - 06:14 PM (#2958384)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Tootler

"Faffing on" or "faffing about" = messing about to no useful effect.


04 Aug 10 - 06:41 PM (#2958399)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Bill D

I am updating a new PC, and went and got that file to test it with VanBasco's Karioke/midi player

works fine.....


05 Aug 10 - 02:30 PM (#2958930)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

Thanks for the definition, Tootler. I am now faffing about playing the piece on my fretted dulcimer.

I have discovered that even though it's a world-famous piece of high-toned classical music, that it has something of the structure of a jig or reel. i.e., the A part is lyrical and the B part is twiddley. Since the A part is major, the B part begins with a minor passage. Then it returns to the major to end.

One way it differs is that the piece is 68 bars long. Unusual. Probably a 12-bar phrase in there somewhere.


05 Aug 10 - 02:33 PM (#2958931)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

Bill, thanks for the tip about Van Bosco's player. I see that you can use it to change keys. That could come in handy for some people. I don't need it myself. I have Noteworthy.


05 Aug 10 - 03:06 PM (#2958946)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Joe Offer

Sometimes I'll have an URL for a MIDI or a picture or something, and I may still have a difficult time downloading it so I can keep it. BUT if I have a link to the file, I can right-click the link and choose "save target as..." and the file almost always downloads very nicely.
But how to make a link?
I use the "preview" feature in every Mudcat thread, post the URL as link in a message, making sure the "preview" box is checked. Then I submit the post, and the preview link displays. I right-click and save the target, and then close the browser window so the Mudcat message doesn't post.
It's a bit difficult to explain - but it's quick and easy, if you know how to make HTML links. Sometimes I have to "view source" of the page displaying the photo or MIDI, to determine the URL of the file.

Come to think of it, maybe that IS too difficult....but it works for me.

-Joe-


05 Aug 10 - 03:23 PM (#2958952)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Bill D

It is hard to see, Joe... I always considered a URL to be a link, and unless the site was trying to prevent you getting the file (some sort of embedding), I can always get it by right clicking...etc.


05 Aug 10 - 03:45 PM (#2958960)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

I usually 'save target as' and it works. However, this one had an extra character in the extension, and I didn't realize I could remove it on the file name line. Silly me, I thought the file name line would just handle the file name.


05 Aug 10 - 04:06 PM (#2958971)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Joe Offer

Same thing can sometimes work with
DVDs. Look for the largest file on the disc, and then rename it *.mpeg

-Joe-


05 Aug 10 - 04:17 PM (#2958978)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Bill D

ahhh... there is often a ? at the end of a link which must be removed...


05 Aug 10 - 07:40 PM (#2959089)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: JohnInKansas

If you right click and choose "Save Target As" you should get a box asking you where to save the file. That box also shows the file name and can be used to change the file name before the file goes to where you put it.

For a number of sites, it's absolutely necessary that you change the name of the file before you complete the save, because every file downloaded from the site has the same "default file name."

If you accept the default name, and save something like e.g. each of "the last 20 decisions from the US Supreme Court" you'll end up with one copy of the last one you clicked, since each "save" will just write over and replace the last previous one. This is one case in which Windows generally doesn't warn you that "there is already a file with that name" and ask if you want to replace it.

John


05 Aug 10 - 07:58 PM (#2959113)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: The Fooles Troupe

"but Noteworthy Composer can't open it because of that extraneous I at the the end of the name. "

This may be a bit advanced for you, but...

If you try to open a .midi in NC, it won't, because it expects only .mid files, ok.

But Windows allows you to define BOTH .mid & .midi extensions as midi files and use a default program (you can assign NC) to open them if you just click on the file name - not being up to speed on WIN internals anymore, someone else will have to spell out how to, sorry.


05 Aug 10 - 09:49 PM (#2959191)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

Thanks, F...

I've been editing music since 1989, and this has never happened before. Thanks to tips from catters, it's under control. The problem will probably never arise again.

I played it for the DH today on a 'work in progress' basis. He thinks I should play the A-B, E-F# and G-A twiddles on adjacent strings to create a poignant dissonance.


05 Aug 10 - 10:05 PM (#2959198)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: GUEST,leeneia

If you are not familiar with it, this is the piece:

lute largo


05 Aug 10 - 10:14 PM (#2959203)
Subject: RE: help needed downloading a MIDI
From: Bill D

"Windows allows you to define BOTH .mid & .midi extensions as midi files and use a default program..."

Yes...thanks for reminding... The word is 'associate', and there are various ways to do it... In my case, as you might guess, I have a special program which will allow you to associate various extensions with specific programs.

Here is Microsoft's way http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307859