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BS: Cloned Cows

05 Aug 10 - 05:35 AM (#2958637)
Subject: Cloned Cows
From: mikesamwild

I don't want every glass of milk to look the same


05 Aug 10 - 06:15 AM (#2958651)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: gnu

Use a dirty glass.


05 Aug 10 - 11:31 AM (#2958818)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Bill D

"I don't want every glass of milk to look the same."

How have you been telling them apart up to now?


05 Aug 10 - 11:44 AM (#2958830)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Ebbie

lol

Actually, on the farm my mother was upset from time to time. She'd make a face and say in exasperation: The cows have gotten into the wild garlic again.


05 Aug 10 - 07:26 PM (#2959079)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Paul Burke

The problem isn't the milk, and it isn't the meat. They are (generally speaking, in the UK), safe enough. It's the ownership of the rights over the cattle. Genetically modified lines are subject to patent law, and can't just be bred like ordinary cattle, but fees have to be paid to the owners of the IP. The long term strategy of the patentees is to own the rights to the national herd.

The more present problem, right now, is the treatment of animals with hormones and antibiotics, which damage humans heath both directly (your children ingest the hormones via the cattle products), and indirectly (the stupid use of antibiotics prove Darwin right by promoting resistant strains).

When the next trade dispute between the US and Europe erupts, remember that the milk and meat here are still relatively clean.


05 Aug 10 - 07:29 PM (#2959081)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Ebbie

Ha, I say. I had never heard of 'mad cow disease' before Britain's ordeal.


05 Aug 10 - 07:43 PM (#2959095)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Mad cows and Englishmen....


05 Aug 10 - 09:45 PM (#2959190)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: GUEST,mark-s(on the road)

I suppose they will all give white milk, which will be made into vanilla ice cream, and used to make ice cream clones.
Yeah, I know it's lame, but it's late.


05 Aug 10 - 10:22 PM (#2959208)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Smokey.

I had never heard of 'mad cow disease' before Britain's ordeal.

It was our own fault - we voted for her.


05 Aug 10 - 11:05 PM (#2959223)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: frogprince

Why do they call it PMS?


Because "mad cow disease" was already taken.

I know, I know; but I first heard it from the Prarie Home Companion movie, and I damn near split a gut.


06 Aug 10 - 05:01 AM (#2959309)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: gnu

Would a cloned cow be a devine bovine?


06 Aug 10 - 06:24 AM (#2959332)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Geoff the Duck

A clone is not genetically modified. It is technically an identical twin of the original animal or plant.

Every potato plant grown from a seed potato are clones of the original plant which produced the seed potato. That plant in turn was a clone of an earlier potato and down the line perhaps hundreds of years.
Every Bramley Apple tree is a clone of the original tree that a cutting was taken from. The apples themselves are the product of a fertilised flower, so their seeds are NOT a clone.

As I understand it, the animals on whatever British farm were calves produced naturally. It is the mother cows which are clones of a particularly high quality milker.

I have more confidence in the cloning process than with some other things done in the name of science. If cloning is done right, the cells should be 100% identical with the original. If the cloning process isn't correct the cell doesn't survive, so there is no offspring at all. You either get a perfect copy or nothing.

Quack!
GtD.


06 Aug 10 - 06:39 AM (#2959341)
Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: s&r

BSE was first identified in Britain in 1986. It was present in other countries at or about the same time; France chose to take no action for some years. Some info here

Stu