To Thread - Forum Home

The Mudcat Café TM
https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=131440
58 messages

sex or trad folk: which is best ???

14 Aug 10 - 09:21 PM (#2965395)
Subject: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,Uncle Rumpo

pop quiz for the weekend..

you decide.....




me, I'm nearly too old to care about either....




ooh what's on the telly..


14 Aug 10 - 09:25 PM (#2965399)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Rob Naylor

You're NEVER too old to care about sex, surely?


14 Aug 10 - 09:27 PM (#2965402)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Micca

I always thought of the truth in the statement that "Sex is like money, it only bothers you when your not getting any"


14 Aug 10 - 09:36 PM (#2965406)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Rapparee

You've never heard songs like "Blowin' in the Wind" or "Lewdly sing cuckoo?"


15 Aug 10 - 12:38 AM (#2965472)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Liz the Squeak

Les Barker has a poem = 'Is poetry better than sex'.

He voices the opinion of many people, whether they are getting it or not...

Yes, it bloody well is!   (unless of course, you are given haikus when you want the Rime of the Ancient Mariner....)

LTS


15 Aug 10 - 01:20 AM (#2965479)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,trad maniac

All depends on whether you are by yourself at the time....
A good w*** or a Walter Pardon LP??? Hmmm.

That should be enough to get this thread pulled...sorry, I mean removed :-)


15 Aug 10 - 04:46 AM (#2965519)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Newport Boy

Sex with trad folk is best!

Phil


15 Aug 10 - 04:53 AM (#2965522)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Richard Bridge

Some trad songs last longer


15 Aug 10 - 04:55 AM (#2965523)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie

Strumming on her banjo..

A blow on the old crumhorn.

Singing in harmony (!)

A quick chorus of The Bonny Black Hare.

Just don't make the mistake of giving a round of applause at the end.


15 Aug 10 - 09:13 AM (#2965613)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Murray MacLeod

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Richard Bridge - PM
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 04:53 AM

Some trad songs last longer


now that's funny, Richard !

but with a grain of truth ...


15 Aug 10 - 09:35 AM (#2965626)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Dave Hanson

Trad folk is best, sex only lasts 45 minutes.

Dave H


15 Aug 10 - 09:57 AM (#2965637)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Susan A-R

It all has to do with the moment, and the quality of either, of course


15 Aug 10 - 10:39 AM (#2965658)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam

As many people as I've seen go out the door of the pub for a cigarette after they "perform" I am now wondering.


15 Aug 10 - 11:15 AM (#2965670)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: MikeL2

hi

If we talk as long about what is sex as what is Folk music nobody will be getting either.

cheers

MikeL2


15 Aug 10 - 11:28 AM (#2965676)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Matthew Edwards

Isn't there some kind of trad sex we could perform? or does that have to be done unaccompanied?

Matthew


15 Aug 10 - 12:11 PM (#2965699)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: open mike

i have heard contra dancing called the most fun you can have
"standing up" or "with your clothes on..."


15 Aug 10 - 12:14 PM (#2965703)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Tug the Cox

Hang on, I'll consult some old diaries.


15 Aug 10 - 12:16 PM (#2965705)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: melodeonboy

Is that the 1954 definition of sex? :-)


15 Aug 10 - 12:18 PM (#2965707)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,mauvepink

If you are having to ask I think you need to give up one or the other.... or maybe both! lol

;-)

mp


15 Aug 10 - 12:35 PM (#2965719)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Bill D

Trad sex is done by modal folkers.


15 Aug 10 - 12:40 PM (#2965725)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Herga Kitty

It's probably an age-related thing. I'm surprised no-one has yet referred to the oral tradition....

Kitty


15 Aug 10 - 12:46 PM (#2965732)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: JohnB

Traditional music lasts forever, sex, on the other hand, or with a partner, does not.
There again, who can handle more than 4 or 5 40 verse ballads in a night.
JohnB


15 Aug 10 - 02:25 PM (#2965796)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: JohnInKansas

What's the difference?

Both require study, thoughtful preparation, and regular practice to learn the skills necessary for adequate performance.

Shared with appropriate others, even a mediocre performance can be rewarding, and appreciated.

Performed with, or for, someone inappropriate or unappreciative, either can be a total flop.

With either, one can choose whether to be the performer or the recipient participating audience, and the variety of forms, styles, methods, techniques, and instruments available are sufficient for life-long enjoyment of them both.

Neither is - eventually - much fun if you only know "one song" and try to play it the same at every performance.

John


15 Aug 10 - 02:27 PM (#2965797)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam

Isn't there some kind of trad sex we could perform?

What position should I play this in?

Missionary mandolin? That might be a bit back to front.

Tantric tippers? Get that goat skin off.

Saucy spoons? A real position according to Cosmo.


15 Aug 10 - 02:55 PM (#2965812)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1

Well, there's always sex *with* traditional folk who'd sing whilst er...um..ern....

But...they'd probably have their fingers in their ears too....

EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!


Get Jon Bon Jovi back here..NOW!


15 Aug 10 - 03:05 PM (#2965824)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Steve Parkes

Well now ... I can sing a song and then sing another one straight away; I can do this for half an hour or more at a time, and all I need is the odd glass of water; after a short rest I can do it all again. I can sing by myself or with any number of others in front of any number of people ... Oh, and my wife doesn't mind a bit.


15 Aug 10 - 05:42 PM (#2965931)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST, Fido

On the other hand a headache is antithetical to both, and either can involve blowing the bosun's whistle.


15 Aug 10 - 06:26 PM (#2965952)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,LTS on the sofa

Of course, you realise i should have put 'No, it's bloody well not'.... it's been a very long time and I've read a lot of poetry recently.....


15 Aug 10 - 06:31 PM (#2965954)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Richard Bridge

But what about the rim of the ancient mariner?


15 Aug 10 - 06:31 PM (#2965956)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Richard Bridge

PS. Anyone who stoppeth one in three is batting a pretty good average.


15 Aug 10 - 10:21 PM (#2966081)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: JohnInKansas

To paraphrase the famous comic who's name I've forgotten:

Lots of other interests can be made part of one's sexual activities.

It used to bother me when my wife laughted while we were having sex -

- but since she's insisted she wasn't laughing at me I seldom even bother to ask what she's reading when it happens now.

John


15 Aug 10 - 11:15 PM (#2966105)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Rapparee

Acoustic or electrically enhanced?


16 Aug 10 - 01:25 AM (#2966140)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: mousethief

Is that the 1954 definition of sex? :-)

I did not have a trad folk relations with that woman.


16 Aug 10 - 02:34 AM (#2966153)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Valmai Goodyear

I suppose trad folk is a bit like an STD: once you've caught it, it makes you unwelcome in some social circles and you keep getting the urge to pass it on.

Valmai (Lewes)


16 Aug 10 - 03:17 AM (#2966168)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam

Thank you Valamai.... Great way to start the day with a good long belly laugh.


16 Aug 10 - 03:42 AM (#2966176)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Rob Naylor

Steve Parkes: I can sing by myself or with any number of others in front of any number of people ... Oh, and my wife doesn't mind a bit.

Well mine does! The minute I start, either by myself or with one or more partners, she gets the hump.

Now, I have to make sure she's out of the house before any of my music partners can sneak round for a "quickie".


16 Aug 10 - 09:32 AM (#2966336)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Splott Man

If I'm at folk club, then I'd rather have the trad songs.

But to some people trad folk is foreplay.


16 Aug 10 - 06:19 PM (#2966707)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Guy Wolff

If you use the air button on your Concertina you can make some great phone calls to all sorts of freinds .. G


17 Aug 10 - 09:07 AM (#2967068)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Dead Horse

There is many a fine tune played on an old fiddle,
but then some just scratch it.


17 Aug 10 - 04:50 PM (#2967384)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Young Buchan

Trad folk. That way when you find someshing stuck in your ear you know it's your own finger.


17 Aug 10 - 04:55 PM (#2967387)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: RWilhelm

Either way, someone is bound to say "You're doing it wrong."


17 Aug 10 - 08:00 PM (#2967519)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Mingulay

Having given some thought to this question, I can state quite categorically that there is no distinction. There is, however, a serious question of etiquette involved in both scenarios which is, does one continue to hold ones tankard of ale whilst 'performing' or does one place it in a safe but convenient position so that the thirst may be quenched when required during the 'performance'?

Answers on a postcard please to the usual address.


17 Aug 10 - 08:21 PM (#2967535)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: John on the Sunset Coast

Actual, I think both at the same time. We sing the start of the chorus to a now non-politically correct SC Foster song at the appropriate time.


18 Aug 10 - 02:57 AM (#2967638)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam

John ot SC

TMI! I don't even want to know what Stephen Foster song.


18 Aug 10 - 04:40 AM (#2967678)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: TheSnail

Do you mean the one that contains the wonderful line "Tis a whale that is heard upon the shore"? What's politcally incorrect about that?


18 Aug 10 - 05:37 AM (#2967705)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Valmai Goodyear

Presumably not Hard Times Come Again No More.

Valmai


18 Aug 10 - 05:45 AM (#2967709)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: JohnInKansas

If it is necessary to distinguish "trad folk" from (implied) other kinds of folk, it would seem necessary, to be fair, to select just one (or a few) kinds of sex so that approximately equal domains and ranges of performance be compared on both sides of the discussion.

I'm not sure whether "trad" folk have different knowledge and experience of the full range of "sex" than would be found in a broader and more inclusive group(?) of folk exemplars, but the implication that discussion is open to all kinds of "sex" seems to place an imbalance of confusions on the two sides of the debate.

If only trad folk are accepted, only narrow understanding of the other side is to be expected, while the all-inclusive "sex" side is bound to be completely at a loss even to define "what is sex?".

Although comments thus far have been thoughtful and constructive, without more specific definition of the terms and limits the entire debate might collapse into frivolous s.a. quips and retorts, rather than the serious and considered conversation that might lead to understanding on both sides - which certainly would be a shame when so much progress has already appeared.

John


18 Aug 10 - 06:01 AM (#2967717)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: TheSnail

Valmai has stolen my punch line. The first two lines of the chorus of Hard Times are more appropriate to the period after the climax of the performance -

"Tis the song, the sigh of the weary,
Hard Times, hard times, come again no more"


18 Aug 10 - 06:15 AM (#2967724)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Valmai Goodyear

Terribly sorry, Bryan. Nicking someone's punch line is unforgivable. Apologies to J in K if you were working up to that one as well, but thank you for your measured and thoughtful comments immediately above.

Valmai


18 Aug 10 - 07:22 AM (#2967748)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler

If nobody performs trad folk it will become extinct.

If nobody performs sex humanity will become extinct.

Now is it worth having humanity without trad folk?


18 Aug 10 - 07:45 AM (#2967757)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: pavane

I met my wife in a folk club...


18 Aug 10 - 07:55 AM (#2967763)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: The Sandman

come to a Dick Miles gig you will probably get both, in song form.


18 Aug 10 - 10:25 AM (#2967839)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Bill D

"Hard Times, hard times, come again no more".....translates to "Please, doctor...don't prescribe him any more Viagra"


18 Aug 10 - 10:34 AM (#2967850)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1

Is only Traditional Sex permitted in Cecil Sharp House, I wonder?

Hey, maybe that's why they're all so quiet over there! ;0)


19 Aug 10 - 05:49 AM (#2968470)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam

40 odd verse ballads versus sex

It is not the size that counts so much as the technique


19 Aug 10 - 07:53 AM (#2968524)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,callingbird

Believe me....SIZE MATTERS!


19 Aug 10 - 11:08 AM (#2968649)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Steve Parkes

Lizzie -- I believe they are very keen on the Oral Tradition at CS House!


20 Aug 10 - 12:43 AM (#2969124)
Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: LadyJean

There's a wonderful song that says Music, Sex and Cookies make the world go round. I'm inclined to agree.
The song ends with narrator having been dumped by his girl, but discovering he has an unopened bag of cookies and a new record (That rather dates things.) and two out of three ain't bad.