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10 Sep 10 - 01:18 AM (#2983695) Subject: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Ebbie I'm doing research and although I'm finding a lot of information I have not seen an answer to this: Who first labeled the Rocky Mountains? Did they ever have a different name? The Rockies are a very long mountain range and I know that various segments have regional names. I'm interested mostly in the northern tier, coming from Minnesota heading into Montana and Idaho. Discuss? Thanks. |
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10 Sep 10 - 02:18 AM (#2983712) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: maeve These resources may offer a start on a verifiable answer, Ebbie. The last three or so deal with the Cree words for other places too; offering some apparent confirmation of the translation-from-Cree explanations. Have fun! http://www.spiralroad.com/sr/pn/r/rocky_mountains.html http://books.google.com/books?id=Qvm7AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA175&lpg=PA175&dq=%27as-sin-wati.%27&source=bl&ots=pBIfW3Kn65&sig=sW8HLDFnAS_1 http://www.placenamesofalberta.ca/300_names_definitions/dalhousie.html http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ALBERTA/2003-01/1043779699 |
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10 Sep 10 - 02:29 AM (#2983713) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: maeve Sorry- that first link should be this: http://www.spiralroad.com/sr/pn/r/rocky_mountains.html |
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10 Sep 10 - 02:47 AM (#2983718) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: mousethief The online repository of all knowledge and wisdom says: "In 1739, French fur traders Pierre and Paul Mallet, while journeying through the Great Plains, discovered a range of mountains at the headwaters of the Platte River, which local American Indian tribes called the 'Rockies', becoming the first Europeans to report on this uncharted mountain range." |
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10 Sep 10 - 09:27 AM (#2983877) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Amos The earliest reference to this mountain chain is that of John Knight, governor of York Factory who, in his diary for 1716, states that Indians had told him that very far to the west there were prodigious mountains so high "they cannot see the tops without it be clear weather." The first mention of their present name is to be found in Legardeur St. Pierre's journal for 1752, which refers to the 'Montaignes de Roche.' 'Rocky Mountains' is a translation of the Cree name, 'as-sin-wati.' Seen from the east across the prairies, they appear as a great rocky mass." PLace Names in Canada, from Maeve's link at http://www.spiralroad.com/sr/pn/r/rocky_mountains.html above. |
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10 Sep 10 - 09:54 AM (#2983890) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: MarkS A more fun spin on this thread would be to speculate on the source for the name of the Grand Teton mountains! |
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10 Sep 10 - 10:20 AM (#2983909) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: McGrath of Harlow Most mountains are somewhat rocky. |
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10 Sep 10 - 10:22 AM (#2983911) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Rapparee They were also called "The Shining Mountains" by the fur traders and mountain men. |
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10 Sep 10 - 11:11 AM (#2983941) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Bob the Postman Minnesota? |
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10 Sep 10 - 11:22 AM (#2983950) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Ebbie Well, Bob, the action starts in Minnesota and heads west... |
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10 Sep 10 - 11:23 AM (#2983951) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Ebbie I meant to say: Thanks, guys. I already know more than I was able to find on my own. |
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10 Sep 10 - 12:12 PM (#2983993) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: katlaughing Ah, Rapaire, but the Big Horns, in WY are also known as the "Shining Mountains." Of course, they are part of the Rockies.:-) I was wondering about that Minnesota reference, too.*smile* MarkS: The origin of the current name is controversial. The most common explanation is that "Grand Teton" means "large tit" in French, named by either French-Canadian or Iroquois members of an expedition led by Donald McKenzie of the North West Company.[5] However, other historians disagree, and claim that the mountain was named after the Teton Sioux tribe of Native Americans.[6] Which begs the question, who designated them the "Teton" Sioux? Must've been a French-Canadian in there somewhere! |
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10 Sep 10 - 12:36 PM (#2984003) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Little Hawk Sylvester Stallone? |
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10 Sep 10 - 12:36 PM (#2984004) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Alice One of the nicknames for Montana was Land of the Shining Mountains until Chet Huntley built Big Sky Ski Resort and now everyone uses the nickname Big Sky Country. Remember this? (Minnesota) Land of Sky Blue Waters Hamms Beer Alice |
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10 Sep 10 - 12:51 PM (#2984013) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Jack the Sailor I think that Canadian members might wonder at Minnesota being the norther tier of the Rocky mountains. |
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10 Sep 10 - 01:12 PM (#2984028) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Ebbie Ah din't say that, JtS. What I was presenting was that the beginning point was northern US, not, for instance, from Alabama through Wyoming to Oregon Country. |
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10 Sep 10 - 01:33 PM (#2984038) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Greg F. Pretty sure it was John Denver. |
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10 Sep 10 - 03:47 PM (#2984124) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Q (Frank Staplin) The Rocky Mountains extend from New Mexico to northern British Columbia in Canada. The Rockies are many miles west of the plains of Minnesota, which does not have anything constituting a northern tier of any mountain range. MN has some hills.) |
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10 Sep 10 - 05:24 PM (#2984170) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: McGrath of Harlow Though they are really the continuation of the Andes, extending from Tierra del Fuego... |
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10 Sep 10 - 05:37 PM (#2984178) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Little Hawk And as far as we know it's all a result of continental drift. The huge plates under the Pacific Ocean are subducting under the lighter continental plates, which creates great pressure, which raises mountain chains (and the occasional volcano) all along the western coastlines of most of North and South America. |
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10 Sep 10 - 05:40 PM (#2984184) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Alice As Ebbie said, she was not talking about the Rocky Mountains being in Minnesota, but that the beginning point of travel is in Minnesota moving west toward the Rocky Mountains. A. |
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10 Sep 10 - 05:48 PM (#2984190) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Q (Frank Staplin) The mountain spines of the two American continents are discontinuous, belonging as they do to separate plates. The Mexican range of the Rockies are the Sierra Madres, in Alaska the Brooks Range. Each is composed of a number of named ranges, the Rocky Mts. having over 100, the Sierra Madres 2. The Coast Range of the U.S. often includes the Sierra Nevada And the Alaska Range; The Cascades in part parallel the Coast Range. |
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10 Sep 10 - 08:43 PM (#2984273) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Ebbie Well, I swan! Thank you, Alice. Ebbie, flouncing off. |
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10 Sep 10 - 09:40 PM (#2984288) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Bat Goddess Oh, thank you, Alice! I LOVED the Hamm's commercials! I also loved the Hamm's lamps (which looked as if the water was flowing, canoes rowing, etcet) which were in Midwestern (read: Wisconsin) taverns during the '50s and early '60s. My mother was from Stetsonville, Wisconsin (population 319 -- 4 taverns) and my father was from Colby. When we'd go "Up North" to visit, we'd (my parents and us kids) stop first at John Doctor's Tavern in Stetsonville (multi-colored lights on the Wurlitzer jukebox, stuffed deer heads, flying squirrels and other wildlife on the walls), move to Jakey's, then to Fisher's, etc. and see everyone in town. Taverns were kid-friendly -- we'd crawl around under the pinball machines, have the adults buy us packets of Planter's Peanuts and candy bars. These places were, as one waitress described The Press Room, truly "family gin mills". Linn |
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10 Sep 10 - 09:46 PM (#2984289) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Alice When I was a little girl and we first got a tv back in the 1950's, I LOVED the bear and the song from the Hamms ads. |
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10 Sep 10 - 09:57 PM (#2984292) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Alice Another Hamm's bear Beer ad There is a book about Hamm's beer ads: "The Paws of Refreshment: A History of Hamm's Beer Advertising" available at Amazon. from the land of sky blue waters... Alice |
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10 Sep 10 - 11:07 PM (#2984311) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: katlaughing Did they ever say just where the land of sky blue waters was? |
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10 Sep 10 - 11:19 PM (#2984314) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Alice Minnesota is called the Land of Sky Blue Waters. It's from Longfellow's poem "The Song of Hiawatha". The poet was inspired by Minnesota's nature and there are place names in the poem. Alice |
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11 Sep 10 - 04:10 PM (#2984703) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Alice, I had to go to the principal's office because of that poem. We were assigned pieces of it to memorize, and recite before the class. I was given a piece from Hiawatha's childhood. A couple of us decided to mess it up. When recitation time came, I was first and the teacher unceremoniously told me to leave. "By the shimmy of the hootsee kootchee......" A terrible poem. |
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12 Sep 10 - 02:19 AM (#2984906) Subject: RE: BS: Who Named Rocky Mountains? When? From: Don Firth Out in the Grays Harbor area on the coast of Washington State, up around Ocean Shores I think, there is a Gitche Gumee motel. I think somebody's lost. . . . Don Firth |