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07 Oct 10 - 07:10 PM (#3002110) Subject: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Ed T When I was a young, often at our dinner table was a vegetable we called Turnip. They were large, orange-yellow fleshed vegetable when cooked....with a distinctive taste Now, when I shop at a supermarket, a turnip is a much smaller, lighter coloured vegetable with a milder (more watery, and bland) flavour with a yellow-whitish colour when cooked. I have been told these are rutabbaga, or sweeds, not what I once knew as a turnip. I suspect folks are getting terms, or different varieties (modern marketing hybrids) of the same vegetable mixed up. Anyone know? Is the turnip I once knew been shelved for a new version, has it morphed, or, is my recollection faulty? |
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07 Oct 10 - 07:21 PM (#3002115) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: pdq Actually, turnips are white, rutabagas are yellow and Swedes are blonde. That was easy. |
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07 Oct 10 - 07:40 PM (#3002125) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: catspaw49 Cute pdq.......all you need to know about roots......well, the eating, ..........no, wait......er,uh.........well, the digestible and nourishing variety anyway.....Roots (non-sucking types) Spaw |
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07 Oct 10 - 07:50 PM (#3002128) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Ed T There seems some confusion in the names, since some locals seem to use the word turnip for swede, or rutabaga or turnip for both turnip swede BTW, some interesting recipe's on this site, if you look around. Riverford Organic Vegetables |
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07 Oct 10 - 07:55 PM (#3002130) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Dave MacKenzie I believe that in England turnips (or neeps as in neeps and tatties) are referred to as bashed Swedes! |
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07 Oct 10 - 07:58 PM (#3002131) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Ed T And there is the case of the Chinese Gooseberry, now known as Kiwi Fruit...but possibly not in China? |
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07 Oct 10 - 08:00 PM (#3002132) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: *#1 PEASANT* Wikipedia will fix it- The rutabaga, swede (from Swedish turnip), or yellow turnip (Brassica napobrassica, or Brassica napus var. napobrassica, or Brassica napus subsp. rapifera) is a root vegetable that originated as a cross between the cabbage and the turnip[citation needed]. The roots are prepared for food in a variety of ways, and its leaves can also be eaten as a leaf vegetable."Rutabaga" (from dialectal Swedish rotabagge, literally, "root ram") is the common American and Canadian term for the plant, while "swede" is the preferred term used in much of England, Wales, Australia and New Zealand. In the U.S., the plant is also known as "Swedish turnip" or "yellow turnip", while in Ireland, it is referred to as "turnip" It is the rutabaga that Irish immigrants remembered and celebrate their arrival in america with at thanksgiving as it was part of the minimal diet. It is also the rutabega that is hollowed out to make faces. Pick a large skull shaped one. Hollow it out thin. Put candle in base and suspend from a wire or stout cord. Light candle and wander around with them at this time of year. They look like skulls floating in air. Remember that there were no pumpkins in Ireland/uk til the discovery of America. So these were carved instead. My favorite way of cooking them is in Irish Veg stew which uses brown sugar to cut the bitterness. If you wish to have a guide for carving these,samhain stories, other recipes and customs consult my booklet http://mysite.verizon.net/cbladey/samie.html Samhain Guid Conrad |
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07 Oct 10 - 08:23 PM (#3002140) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: GUEST,number 6 neeps |
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07 Oct 10 - 08:38 PM (#3002147) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: McGrath of Harlow A well carved Halloween swede/turnican be genuinely frightening. And it smells earthy like an open grave... Halloween pupkins are just funny. |
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07 Oct 10 - 08:39 PM (#3002150) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: McGrath of Harlow A well carved Halloween swede/turnip can be genuinely frightening. And it smells earthy like an open grave... Halloween pumpkins are just funny. |
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07 Oct 10 - 08:59 PM (#3002162) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Ed T Most of the year's gone by and I just learned that 2010 is INTERNATIONAL YEAR OF THE RUTABAGA The Advanced Rutabaga Studies Institute |
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07 Oct 10 - 09:42 PM (#3002178) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Bobert I grew both turnips and rutabagas in the garden this summer... Both will grow and grow and grow until you pull 'um up... Guess those in the markets have been harvested with the space needed for the next crop... Both nasty but good 4 ya... Or at least that's why the P-Vine make me choke 'um down... Yuck... B~ |
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08 Oct 10 - 12:55 AM (#3002245) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: open mike what about parsnips and kohlrabi? http://www.riverford.co.uk/sacrewell/shop/vegetables/parsnips_1kg/ *music alert* rutabaga boogie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5u1MBY-RKs see also:\ The Rutabaga Boogie http://rutabagas.tripod.com/ another rutabaga song' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjmSGV1yWcU&feature=related |
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08 Oct 10 - 03:01 AM (#3002267) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Carved hallowe'en neep/swede I agree with McGrath, carved swedes are brilliant and look like shrunken heads. I've seen better examples than the one linked to above, but that's still more evocative than carved pumpkins. |
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08 Oct 10 - 05:16 PM (#3002820) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: McGrath of Harlow Here's one to give you real nightmares... |
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08 Oct 10 - 05:36 PM (#3002836) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Ed T "I am in to this" turnips |
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08 Oct 10 - 05:37 PM (#3002837) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: JennieG How is rutabaga pronounced? I have only seen it written, never heard it said as it's not a term used in Ox. Is it root-abaga (to rhyme with shoot) or rut-abaga (to rhyme with but)? and is the last part bay-ga or bar-ga? Many thanks if you can shine a linguistic light..... Cheers JennieG |
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08 Oct 10 - 05:38 PM (#3002839) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: JennieG woops....should be Oz not Ox....haven't had breakfast yet..... |
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08 Oct 10 - 05:43 PM (#3002847) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Ed T This interesting article was in the last link I posted, in case you missed it, including the comment: Fighting back - traditional style lanterns turnip the heat on pumpkins |
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08 Oct 10 - 05:50 PM (#3002854) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: Ed T Try this site, put in the word Rutabaga and the correct sound will be heard on your computer, speakers should be on, of course: http://www.howjsay.com/ |
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08 Oct 10 - 06:05 PM (#3002865) Subject: RE: BS: Rutabaga, Turnip, Swede From: GUEST,mg I think we pronounce it root a begger more. mg |