08 Oct 10 - 09:44 AM (#3002443) Subject: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: Colin Randall Well, the answer may depend on whether he has a stonking cold. He battled heroically to overcome one at the Davy Lamp in Washington, if my pal Pete Sixsmith's review is to be trusted. Bonnie Shaljean has been kind enough recently to commend Pete's live reviews - not something he has done much of - as refreshingly detailed and from the heart, and I'd like to think more people would appreciate seeing this one than would otherwise have been the case. |
08 Oct 10 - 12:15 PM (#3002572) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: John MacKenzie Saw him last Monday, and he was nearly over his cold. He did a fantastic set, most of which I have on film. He mentioned the Willie O' Winsbury problemagain, so he's obviously cross about it. Can I also add another recording of it, to the list? It was also recorded by Derek and Hazel Serjeant, can't remember the name of the album it was on though. I have 3 of theirs and it's not on them. |
08 Oct 10 - 12:25 PM (#3002581) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: buddhuu Andy's brilliant. Recently saw him twice in the space of a month. Excellent both times. |
08 Oct 10 - 03:20 PM (#3002741) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: michaelr What Willie o' Winsbury problem? |
08 Oct 10 - 03:49 PM (#3002753) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: Continuity Jones What Willie o' Winsbury problem? Well basically, the king had been a prisoner a long time over in Spain, and Willie o' Winsbury had lain with his daughter at hame. |
08 Oct 10 - 03:59 PM (#3002759) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: John MacKenzie Aye, whit is it wi wimmen and Willies? |
08 Oct 10 - 06:30 PM (#3002881) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: michaelr Yes, I know the song - but why would Andy be cross about it? |
09 Oct 10 - 02:58 AM (#3003047) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: Ian Hendrie If I read the review correctly, Andy claims to have written the tune and is annoyed about not being given the credit by a number of artists who have recorded it. |
09 Oct 10 - 04:54 AM (#3003070) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: Dave Sutherland If he already had a stinking cold why would he want to inflict further misery by going to watch Sunderland? |
09 Oct 10 - 05:01 AM (#3003072) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: Colin Randall Are you are lurking Mag by any chance, Dave? |
09 Oct 10 - 05:41 AM (#3003080) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: GUEST,guest - Jim Younger Maybe the 'Willie' problem stems from the old story that Andy Irvine was looking into Bronson (Tunes to the Child Ballad) for a tune to WoW and picked the 'wrong' one by happy accident. This might have been mentioned in the sleeve notes (by Mick Moloney) to the first Sweeny's Men album - I don't have it to hand so I can't check. However, if others picked it up from such a source, then they can't be blamed for taking the statement at face value. I never heard that he wrote it himself - but of course he may well have done, and not wanted to claim the credit at the time, although I can't think of any reason why this might be, other than the reluctance of some folksingers to admit to 'tampering' with the tradition. But choosing the 'wrong' tune is tampering too, so it can't be that ... can it? Anyway, the marriage of tune and the words, as recorded on the first Sweeny's, are Andy Irvine's inspired work ( whether deliberate or accidental) and I can see why he might be miffed at people not acknowledging him as the source. |
09 Oct 10 - 06:04 AM (#3003090) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: GUEST,kenny Saw him on Thursday night in Plockton on the west coast of Scotland. He was in great form, - "Willie Of Winsbury" was mentioned. A fine mix of traditional, original and recent songs by other writers. Hadn't seen him in years, and really enjoyed it. He also came in to the "Plockton School Of Excellence In Traditional Music", spoke about his music to the students, and played a few songs, so fair play to him for that. |
09 Oct 10 - 10:36 AM (#3003196) Subject: RE: Review: What is Andy Irvine like at 68? From: GUEST,henryp Andy has put his own tunes - and lyrics too - to several sets of traditional words, including The Two Sisters and The Plains of Kildare - new words and music by Andy Irvine to Stewball and the Monaghan Grey Mare. They'll Never Believe it's True from Way Out Yonder; "This was meant to be a song called 'The Two Sisters' that I found in a Cecil Sharp collection many years ago. I'd always been a bit irked that some people, who recorded it subsequently, had seemingly not known that the tune - and some of the words - were mine." His remaining tour dates are; 09/Oct/10 Universal Hall, Findhorn Foundation, The Park, Forres, Findhorn, IV36 3TZ. 10/Oct/10 JMS Concerts, Fraser Centre, Douglas Street, Milngavie 11/Oct/10 Stirling Folk Club, Stirling County Rugby Football Club, Bridgehaugh Park, Causeway Head Road, Stirling 13/Oct/10 Edinburgh Folk Club, Cabaret Bar, 60 The Pleasance, Edinburgh. Then back in England; 14/Oct/10 Old Laundry Theatre, Crag Brow, Bowness on Windermere, LA23 3BX. 15/Oct/10 Reeth District Memorial Hall, Arkengarthdale Road, Reeth 16/Oct/10 and 17/Oct/10 Rodewald Suite, Philharmonic Hall, Hope Street, Liverpool, L1 9BP. 18/Oct/10 Four Fools Folk Club, The Crown, Worthington, Standish, Wigan. 19/Oct/10 Amberley Folk Club, The Black Horse Inn, High Street, Amberley, West Sussex BN18 9NL. 20/Oct/10 Warthog Promotions, The Old Ship Inn, Main Street. Lowdham, Nottinghamshire 21/Oct/10 Trades Club, Holme Street, Hebden Bridge, HX7 8EE. 22/Oct/10 Unicorn Folk Club, The Bradford Arms, Ivetsey Bank, Wheaton Aston ST19 9QT. 23/Oct/10 Acoustic Routes, Cambridge |