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BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat

27 Oct 10 - 12:08 PM (#3016841)
Subject: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

Democrats getting outspent? Not so fast

By JEANNE CUMMINGS | 10/26/10 7:27 PM EDT Updated: 10/27/10 9:05 AM EDT

To hear top Democrats tell it, the party is being wildly outgunned this year in the fight for campaign cash as Republicans rely on outside groups to funnel money to GOP contenders.

But the numbers tell a different story.

It's true that conservative third-party groups are outspending their Democratic rivals. But the Democrats still have a sizable cash advantage in their party committees – making this year's elections a lot more of a fair fight than Vice President Joe Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi let on.

So far, the latest figures show that the Democratic Party machinery has outraised its Republican counterpart in this campaign cycle by almost $270 million.

And even when outside spending on television advertising and direct mail is added to the mix, Republicans still haven't closed the gap.

The money race totals come to $856 million for the Democratic committees and their aligned outside groups, compared to $677 for their Republican adversaries, based on figures compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

Included in that total: conservative groups have spent $169 million on ads attacking Democratic House and Senate candidates, compared to $80 million by liberal-leaning groups, based on figures as of Tuesday morning.

Of course, plenty more will be spent in this final week of the campaign.

The GOP-leaning outside groups have vowed to invest about $325 million this cycle, a sum that could be difficult to achieve with just seven days to go to Election Day. Liberal groups and unions also have pledged tens of millions of dollars more in spending.

But the David-and-Goliath tone of some Democratic messaging hardly reflects the party's own financial strength and ability to defend itself, at least tactically.

"When you look at the national party committees coupled with the state party committees, the Democrats are whopping the Republicans," said Dave Levinthal, a spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics.




Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44216.html#ixzz13ZhZcvnW


27 Oct 10 - 12:10 PM (#3016843)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

Lies lies lies, he keeps tossing them out. If only a small fraction stick, he wins.


27 Oct 10 - 12:15 PM (#3016849)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

You talking about yourself again, JtS?


Or about Obama?


27 Oct 10 - 12:17 PM (#3016853)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Richard Bridge

If you USAians had grasped the nettle of reform of campaign funding (like Kucinich said) you'd stand a chance of making some progress towards less unfair elections.


27 Oct 10 - 12:22 PM (#3016858)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

"You talking about yourself again, JtS?"

I know I am but what are you?

What their tactics lack in intelligence they make up with persistence.


27 Oct 10 - 12:25 PM (#3016863)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

Jack,

Stop being an asshole- IF you can't discuss the topic, try shutting up. EVERYON would benefit then.


27 Oct 10 - 12:25 PM (#3016865)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bobert

Yeah, when it comes to the two parties, the Dems have out hustled and out spent the Repubs on money raised by the parties themselves... That is true...

But when you throw in the "Citizens United" money that the Roberts/Thomas/Alito Court legislated into new law the Repubs are outspending the Dems somewhere in the 7-1 range with hundreds of millions and some extimates of upwards of $2B being used in attack ads against the Dems... In other words, bruce's post is, at best, extremely misleading...

B~


27 Oct 10 - 12:27 PM (#3016868)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bobert

BTW, those hundreds of millions are coming from the Boss Hog's of the world including those in China... All secret and based on Clarence Thomas's thoughts, just fine and dandy...

B~


27 Oct 10 - 12:31 PM (#3016875)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

Bobert,

PLEASE read the post before commenting:

"And even when outside spending on television advertising and direct mail is added to the mix, Republicans still haven't closed the gap.

The money race totals come to $856 million for the Democratic committees and their aligned outside groups, compared to $677 for their Republican adversaries, based on figures compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

Included in that total: conservative groups have spent $169 million on ads attacking Democratic House and Senate candidates, compared to $80 million by liberal-leaning groups, based on figures as of Tuesday morning. "

In other words, Bobert's post is, at best, extremely untrue...


27 Oct 10 - 12:32 PM (#3016876)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: kendall

Old Maine proverb:
"It's impossible to throw mud without getting some on yourself."


27 Oct 10 - 12:39 PM (#3016882)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Sawzaw

J.D. Boss Hogg. The J D is Jefferson Davis, a staunch states' rights Democrat.

J.D. (Jefferson Davis) Hogg, better known as "Boss" Hogg, is a fictional character featured in the American television series The Dukes of Hazzard. He was the greedy, unethical commissioner of Hazzard County. Crime Boos of the moonshine industry in Hazzard County. A stereotypical villainous glutton.

Boss has a twin brother, Abraham Lincoln Hogg, A.L. Hogg is the opposite of J.D. he was kind, law-abiding, dressed in black, and drove a black car.


27 Oct 10 - 12:40 PM (#3016886)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

Bobert,

Its lies. All lies.

To hear top Democrats tell it, the party is being wildly outgunned this year in the fight

The Democrats have not said that. They have said that a flood of under the table money is influencing the election. They are saying that Foreign money CAN influence the election because BUSH's Supreme Court has opened a huge loophole.

There is no point in arguing with Bruce. He won't support any of this crap. He doesn't even think about it critically. He is like Limbaugh and the GOP and all the rest, he just keeps throwing it and throwing it until some of it sticks.


27 Oct 10 - 12:41 PM (#3016888)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bobert

Google up Democratic Committee, Bruce... I know excatly what I'm talking about here...


27 Oct 10 - 12:42 PM (#3016890)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

and who the heck is?

By JEANNE CUMMINGS | 10/26/10 7:27 PM EDT Updated: 10/27/10 9:05 AM EDT
And why do we care what figures she pulls out of her arse?


27 Oct 10 - 12:58 PM (#3016911)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Amos

I kinda suspect she's a troll for the right, and is showing no scruples about excluding key data in her assertions.


A


27 Oct 10 - 01:32 PM (#3016951)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

Sorry amos, she is NOT a member of the Obama administration- she probably HAS scruples.

Try looking for data she excluded, instead of attacking her for presenting something YOU don't want to believe.


27 Oct 10 - 01:39 PM (#3016957)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bee-dubya-ell

There's nothing wrong with having the most money if it was raised fairly and ethically, and there's nothing admirable about having less money if it was obtained through bribery or backroom deals.

It was never implied that Boss Hogg was the richest man in Hazzard County, only the richest crook.


27 Oct 10 - 01:51 PM (#3016970)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: kendall

We have an excellent candidate for governor here running as a democrat and we are being flooded with out of state money to defeat her.
She is running as a clean elections candidate!
Wanna discuss FAIR now, BB?


27 Oct 10 - 01:53 PM (#3016972)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Sawzaw

The pattern undercuts Democratic attempts to blame well-funded conservative groups for an expected wave of losses when voters go to the polls Tuesday.

Democratic groups catching up late on election spending

Washington Post October 27, 2010

Democratic leaders from President Obama on down have assailed the spending by outside conservative groups, complaining that the business lobby and other Republican allies are pouring millions of dollars into the election as they shield donors from public scrutiny.

But now independent groups that support Democrats - including unions, environmental groups and new players - are fast gaining ground, often while using some of the same techniques condemned by Democrats. The strategies include using money from nonprofit organizations that can keep their donors secret and tapping into union dues to pay for unlimited attack ads.

Nearly four of every 10 dollars spent by independent groups last week was aimed at helping Democratic candidates, according to a Washington Post analysis of campaign-finance disclosure filings. The number is a dramatic improvement from just a few weeks earlier, when Democratic allies were being outspent by 7 to 1, the data show.

Once spending by the parties themselves is added into the mix, Democratic candidates are getting the benefit of nearly half - 46 percent - of independent spending reported to the Federal Election Commission. Many Democratic incumbents are also sitting on flush bank accounts that they have been building up since the end of the 2008 election.

The trends mean that, overall, Democrats and their allies still have a good chance of outspending Republicans in the end. The pattern undercuts Democratic attempts to blame well-funded conservative groups for an expected wave of losses when voters go to the polls Tuesday.

"The outrage over spending by GOP-leaning outside groups is a political ploy, selective in its focus and hypocritical in its messaging," said Jonathan Collegio, spokesman for American Crossroads, which has reported spending $30 million on behalf of Republicans so far...


27 Oct 10 - 01:57 PM (#3016979)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Amos

I suspect she's a troll for the right.

I also suspect she is distorting the ground truth by omitting key data.

I suspect Bearded Bruce of foaming at the mouth sometimes, too.

"Recruited from The Wall Street Journal's Washington Bureau, Cummings joined POLITICO in 2007. At the Journal, she won the 2000 Aldo Beckman Memorial Award, the highest honor for daily White House correspondents, for her coverage of the Clinton Administration. She also earned a journalism award at the Journal for her part in covering the Enron scandal and its connections to the Bush Administration. Before the Journal, Cummings worked for The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, first in Atlanta covering politics and the governor's office and then in its Washington Bureau where she tracked the career of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. In 1997, she won a National Press Club award for groundbreaking coverage of Gingrich's complex financial and political support network and the House ethics investigation of it. When not at work, she spends her time ferrying her daughter to soccer, swim and basketball practices."

A


27 Oct 10 - 01:59 PM (#3016982)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: kendall

I'm not convinced that large amounts of money influence elections anyway.Of course, there are limits. If you have one candidate running on public funds and another buying prime time for millions, that might make a difference.
"The electorate is a great mob; unable to govern itself" (Alexander Hamilton)


27 Oct 10 - 01:59 PM (#3016983)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Greg F.

Dunno why you guys keep responding to Bearded Fuckwit and Saws Fuckwit.
No point in engasging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

See: Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free by Charles P. Pierce


27 Oct 10 - 02:00 PM (#3016985)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

"When not at work, she spends her time ferrying her daughter to soccer, swim and basketball practices."
"

NO WONDER Amos has it in for her!


27 Oct 10 - 02:03 PM (#3016988)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bobert

The bottom line here is that no-one, not the RNC, not that DNC, not any reporter, not any blogger, not Clarence Thomas, not Santa Claus, I mean no-one knows just how much "Citizen's United" $$$ has been poured into this campaign and guess what??? Because Clarence Thomas thinks that that infomation is no one's business we'll never know becuase Clarence "nice tits" Thomas doesn't want US to know...

That is the real story here that is not refutable no matter how many cut 'n pastes bb and Sawz stick here... I mean, that is reality... Everything else is bogus mythology...

B~


27 Oct 10 - 02:34 PM (#3017023)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: GUEST,TIA

Bobert just nailed it.

How much have the Chinese contributed to Republican and Tea Party (wait, are they different?) campaigns? How about the Koch brothers and Pete Coors? Richard Mellon Scaife?

You can't find the number can you?

Thanks to the Roberts Court, you damn sure can't.

Does anyone believe that it is zero?

Does anyone really believe that it would be inappropriate to know these numbers?

Since 1980 (Ronald Reagan), the richest one percent of Americans have doubled their income. The rest of us have suffered a decline (in inflation-adjusted dollars) in income. BeardedSawzDoug must be in that one percent. Or, perhaps they have been propagandized to vote against their own best interests (and in the interests of the Chinese and One Percenters who pay for the propaganda).

Yeah, yeah, now hurry up and post a reply that cites George Soros, but do us a favor and try to list more than just one name 'kay?


27 Oct 10 - 02:36 PM (#3017024)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

>>>The pattern undercuts Democratic attempts to blame well-funded conservative groups for an expected wave of losses when voters go to the polls Tuesday. <<<

Proof that The Post is liberal Media?

The river of shit constantly complains that the Media is Liberal and can't be trusted then when they see a "conservative" statement. They take it as proof that since "liberals" are saying it, it must be true. Kind of a having your cake and eating it too, method of debate.

But that type of statement is exactly how the corporate bias of such outlets as NPR and The Post works. They make these outrageous unfounded, conservative statements, stated like fact in the middle of their other coverage.

I have followed the Democrat's overall statements and strategy on this issue.

1 Bush's court says that corporations are people and that money is speech.
2. Obama calls them on the obvious activism during the "state of the union address"
3. Corporate media (including the Post and NPR) decries the decision when it was made. But since then has covered it as equally valid "he said, she said" coming only from the GOP and Dems. If you decry the decision, you are in the Dems camp, if you defend it you are GOP.
They continue to call the Tea Party "grass roots" even though the Tea Party candidates silently benefit from the spending.
4. Obama says Foreign money CAN spend on our elections. So call truth watchers on co called liberal NPR say "his statement" that "Foreign money is spending on elections" IS false because it cannot be proven.

5.The Democrats say lets fix the loophole. The GOP says "no". The "Grass Roots" Tea party, supposedly concerned with what the founding fathers intended, stays silent. Do they think that the founding fathers meant for corporations to have the privileges of citizenship without any of the accountability?

6. Now the shit river is saying that the only reason that the Democrats are bringing this up is to excuse losses that haven't happened yet.

7. May I point out that one the reason that the Democrats are catching out in donations is outrage about the secret money. That's the reason I will be sending $50.00 each to our Senate challenger and to Obama after I hit "submit" for this post.

8. Congratulations Bruce. You just earned the Democrats a hundred bucks.


27 Oct 10 - 02:39 PM (#3017026)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

Good, Jack

YOU should support those who you think will push your agenda- INSTEAD of attacking the individuals that do not agree with you.


27 Oct 10 - 02:48 PM (#3017033)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bobert

Actually, TIA, alot of the foriegn money is somewhat tracable seein' as the Chinese are funneling alot of money thru the Chamber of Commerace and that money can be accounted for to some degree...

What cannot be accounted for is money that is coming into thse flowery, patriotic sounding bogus organizations that are placing the negative attack ads against Dems... I mean, maybe the IRS might one day sort it out but right now it's Clarence "What is your bra size?" Thomas's Wild West...

B~


27 Oct 10 - 02:54 PM (#3017037)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

Bobert,

"the Chinese are funneling alot of money thru the Chamber of Commerace "

Go check your "facts" again- this is a false statement. Better listen to what Obama wants you to say- you got this one wrong.


27 Oct 10 - 03:02 PM (#3017038)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

>>>Actually, TIA, alot of the foriegn money is somewhat tracable seein' as the Chinese are funneling alot of money thru the Chamber of Commerace and that money can be accounted for to some degree.<<

Money is fungible, The Chamber of Commerce has asked the Chinese for money to fight for their causes. The Chamber of Commerce spends most of its money on these ads. The Chinese send them money.

We can't "prove" that the "Chinese" money was spent on these ads. Therefor the corporate sponsored media, such as NPR, says Obama is lying when he says there is a problem. What is worse they twist what he is saying to make it look like a lie.


27 Oct 10 - 03:07 PM (#3017042)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

We can't "prove" that the "Chinese" money was spent on these ads AND ONLY ON THESE ADS.

The Chamber of Commerce is apparently claiming that The Chinese are perhaps just paying the salaries of the people making the ad buys or for coffee for the techs who fix the computers of those who make the ad buys. Or people to answer the phone when people call to complain about the ad buys or lawyers to defend the ad buys in court. You get the picture?


27 Oct 10 - 03:20 PM (#3017056)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Sawzaw

Jack still believes that something can be proven true or false by the source, not by the actual information presented.

Why? SO that if it disagrees with his beliefs he can say it is untrue. However if it agrees with him, he can claim it is true.

It is hard to loose when you got that going for ya.

Likewise when one can blame everything on someone else, life is real easy. Just sit back, complain and point fingers. Ain't my fault.

And the accusations are easy to prove with the "source" method of verification.

What's not to like?


27 Oct 10 - 03:25 PM (#3017063)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

Sawzaw believes the test of truth is whether the label "Liberal" is attached to it or not.

Not really.. He just repeats what ever Limbaugh tells him to say.


27 Oct 10 - 03:40 PM (#3017076)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Little Hawk

Boss Hogg owns BOTH of those parties...lock, stock, and barrel. If you don't think so, ask Dennis Kucinich. He no longer believes in Santa Claus and neither do I. ;-)

Boss Hogg keeps you all enslaved, helpless, and spinning your wheels forever and ever by playing off the supporters of one major party against the supporters of the other major party. Whichever one you elect, though, Boss Hogg still runs the ruling $ySStem that empowers both of them, and there's not a darned thing you can do about it by voting either Democratic or Republican....except in the odd case where you vote for a genuinely free and honest man like Kucinich, and there are hardly any such men in Congress. Nor will there be. Boss Hogg makes sure of that.

If I was in Mr Kucinich's voting district, then I could vote with belief...not that I would expect it to dethrone Boss Hogg. Not a chance. But at least I'd be voting for an honest man.


27 Oct 10 - 03:50 PM (#3017085)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Sawzaw

"That is the real story here that is not refutable no matter how many cut 'n pastes bb and Sawz stick here... I mean, that is reality... Everything else is bogus mythology..."

Please direct us to the non bogus Mythology Bobert.

Give us the resources you trust so that we may be enlightened also.

Otherwise we have to depend on sources you glean your facts from:

"Now as fir other blogs???? I don't go to any of them... What you get from me is gleaned strictly from the Washington Post, The New York Times and the TV news...

Nuthin' more!!!

Allnatural, here... If I happen to see things the same way as some anti-Bush blogs see things then, hey, means we're both payin' attention....

But I swaer on my daddy's grave that these are my sources and I don't need nobody to tell me what to think or how to defend the postions I take... And I take that very seriously."


27 Oct 10 - 04:00 PM (#3017093)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bobert

Listen, Swz... All we are getting out you and bruce is blowhard right wing blog crap... Jack and I are perfectly willing to let the events and facts come out that will show that neither of you have any ability to seperate out the crap that the bloggers cram into yer heads from reality... The truth is slowly coming out on the Chinese/Chamber connection...

And guess what???

Ya'll talk about jobs all ya want but why do you think the Chinese and the Chamber are buddying up??? Take a wild guess???

Clue: Don't ask yer blogger fighties 'cause this is that dirty little secret that the Repubs/Chinese don't wnat the Tea Party folks to know... Especially just before the election...

Ya' give up???

Need another clue???

B~


27 Oct 10 - 04:04 PM (#3017097)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

Bobert,

All we are getting out you and Jack is blowhard left wing lies.

I am waiting to see any supporting numbers, as I have presented, to indicated you got your figures from somewhere other than up JtS' ass.

You do not seem willing to even look at anything you disagree with- this makes you most "non-liberal".


Try discussing the point rather than stating it must be false because YOU don't like the result.


27 Oct 10 - 04:12 PM (#3017104)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

"The Chamber of Commerce accepts money from some foreign corporations that have American business interests. The Chamber has been quick to point out that it keeps those funds segregated and does not use them for political advocacy.

But there are two larger points worth noting. First and foremost, if this is the standard Barack Obama is using, then Barack Obama himself is a threat to our democracy. Why?

Barack Obama is the biggest recipient of British Petroleum dollars. British Petroleum is a foreign corporation.

If that is the standard the Chamber of Commerce is held to, Barack Obama should hold himself to that standard.

But there's more.

Back in 2008, the Washington Post documented the ease by which foreigners and others could give the Barack Obama's Presidential campaign. The campaign, in fact, boasted of it.

In addition to accepting pre-paid credit cards, the Obama campaign turned off the processing mechanism that verified only United States citizens were giving to his campaign.

As Patrick Ruffini documented in 2008 the Obama campaign turned off the Address Verification Service mechanism to the campaign website, allowing virtually anyone to give to the campaign.

In addition to this being another matter that Daryl Issa will have to investigate once the Republicans take back the House, the bigger issue is that several of us in the blogosphere back in 2008 knew people living overseas who gave to the Obama campaign just to see if it was possible. Yes, Europeans gave a few bucks just to see if they could. Of those I heard of who did this, I never heard of any of them getting a refund.

In other words, unlike the Chamber of Commerce, the Obama campaign most likely accepted into its campaign coffers donations from foreign individuals and never returned the money.

But there is a larger issue here too.

The President of the United States has taken to the bully pulpit to declare an institution as American as mom, apple pie, and flags on Main Street to be a threat to our democracy.

Were Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity or Mark Levin or Glenn Beck to say anything of the like, the left would dismiss them and say they were no longer worthy of being taken seriously. How then can we take Barack Obama seriously?"


27 Oct 10 - 04:12 PM (#3017105)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

If you believe that The GOP policies will create jobs then you believe in a Santa Claus/Easter Bunny that has a big checkbook who will spend all of his tax savings creating jobs, though he hasn't in the ten years so far.


27 Oct 10 - 04:17 PM (#3017107)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Don Firth

Proverbs 14:7

Don Firth


27 Oct 10 - 04:35 PM (#3017120)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

Don should that be the fool who cuts and pastes without crediting the fool from which he stole?


27 Oct 10 - 04:43 PM (#3017129)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bobert

Guess you didn't see where the Chamber of Commerace has put $35M into thr Repub campaign and $0 into the Dems, did ya', bruce...

Seperated funds is just accounting crap... It means that the accountants are just using loopholes to keep the books tidy for the auditors but has no real bearing on the decisions that the Chamber makes about who get how much... If the money is there then they just freely give it to the Repubs and have the accountants sanitize it... Face it, if the Chinese didn't give the money then the Chamber would have to use their own money to operational costs which would mean alot less for the Repubs...

Smoke an' mirrors...

BTW, neither you or Sawz have guessed what it is that the Chinese want in return for the big bucks they are throwing at the Chamber...

Need another hint???

B~


27 Oct 10 - 04:48 PM (#3017138)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: beardedbruce

"the Chinese want in return for the big bucks they are throwing "

Probably the same thing they want for the big bucks they gave to Obama in 2008...


27 Oct 10 - 05:24 PM (#3017163)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: GUEST,TIA

needs another hint Bobert :)


27 Oct 10 - 05:27 PM (#3017164)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Bobert

What was that, bruce???


27 Oct 10 - 05:28 PM (#3017167)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Joe Offer

I'm getting really tired of threads like this. It's the same bunch of people, calling each other liar and fuckwit and asshole and other clever things like that - making it totally impossible for other people to carry on a rational discussion.
Sometimes I wonder if I should just close every damn thread that develops this kind of tone. Sometimes, I wish I could close the entire BS section, along with very "what is folk?" thread that gets more than a hundred posts long.

Frankly, I'm at a loss about what to do with all this garbage. It gives Mudcat a bad name. I hate the thought of restricting freedom, but all the name-callers make it impossible for others to carry on a peaceful and intelligent discussion. Isn't the constant combat restricting the free speech of the rest of us?
-Joe-


27 Oct 10 - 05:32 PM (#3017169)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Jack the Sailor

Who said fuckwit or asshole?

You know that Bruce started the thread to piss off Bobert.

No ham if is closed. Bobert gave as good as he got.


27 Oct 10 - 05:38 PM (#3017173)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Boss Hogg' is a Democrat
From: Joe Offer

Yeah, Right.

This fucking thread is fucking closed.

If you people would talk about the issues instead of jumping on each other, we might have a rational discussion.

-Joe Offer-