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Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed

18 Nov 10 - 08:01 AM (#3035064)
Subject: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Old Vermin

We were chatting at Morris practice about the gig next Thursday - another side is dancing at a pub we dance at and invited us. This is the pub's Advent gig. So someone said 'we could do some pub carols.'

In deepest Surrey, said by some to be the stockbroker belt, we do have some obvious local sources: http://www.guildfordvox.org.uk/lyrics.htm for the Christmassy bit and half-way down the page at http://www.pilgrimmorrismen.org.uk/diary.php for the half-a-dozen links to their 12th Night song-sheets.

Shepherds to the Ilkley Moor tune is standard, of course, and some of us know Shepherds Rejoice from William Seal in Leicestershire via Lester Simpson. Try saying that fast....

I have seen some individual pub carols mentioned in Mudcat threads and of course many references to pub dates in and around Sheffield.

What would be nice to find would be a collection - or just suggestions for carols we might absorb from elsewhere. Can't find this as such, so I think a new thread may be in order.

Any ideas, please?


18 Nov 10 - 08:12 AM (#3035073)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: GUEST,AlanG at work

If you Google "West Gallery Carols" or "West Gallery Misic Association" you will get quite a lot.


18 Nov 10 - 08:36 AM (#3035082)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: GUEST,FloraG

Its worth producing a few carol sheets with words if you've got the time and facilities. Most people can get to the end of verse 2 OK but then --.
We do a few do's with carols and inclued Boars head, Ding dong, we wish you a merry, 12 days of Xmas and jingle bells. This suits the non religous amoung us.
Does anyone do wassails in the group?
Enjoy the singing
FloraG.


18 Nov 10 - 09:51 AM (#3035127)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Noreen

At Worrall male voice choir you can order the Worrall carol book with words and music for £6.

Or CD and words from Village Carols


18 Nov 10 - 10:01 AM (#3035131)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Noreen

www.localcarols.org.uk

and

The Sheffield Carols at South Riding Folk Arts Network


18 Nov 10 - 11:02 AM (#3035167)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Les from Hull

I'll second what Noreen has said above. The South Yorkshire and North Derbyshire traditions of pub carols are the strongest I've come across, and they have made their carols available in book and recorded form. There's another dozen or so tunes for 'While Shepherds', so you can get lots of singing out of one set of words - including the Ilkley Moor tune (a 'While Shepherds' tune long before the Ilkley Moor song was written). I hope you have lots of fun with it.


18 Nov 10 - 12:30 PM (#3035232)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: GUEST,cg

http://www.wgma.org.uk/Resources/wghcc.htm

This will either be my first blue clicky or a disaster, anyway it's a link to the West Gallery Music Association's book of carols


18 Nov 10 - 12:37 PM (#3035243)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: GUEST

This is what you want as well.

http://www.villagecarols.org.uk/VCbook/purplebg.html

Sorry I haven't time to do a clicky.


18 Nov 10 - 06:40 PM (#3035515)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Old Vermin

Thanks, all.

I'll have a proper look in the morning.


23 Dec 10 - 08:59 AM (#3059982)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Chris in Portland

I've watched the tv show, listened to Kate Rusby on the radio, and sung Sweet Chiming Bells, so I'm hoping that we may be able to organize pub carol sings for next year in Portland, OR. I also found that these great carols have been recorded by Smithsonian/Folkways -
smithsonian recording and booklet
The booklet is free to download!
Thanks to you all here and on Folk Song a Day for all this info.
The stores start their Christmas sales the first week in November, so why not start the pub sings then too?
Merry Christmas to all, Chris


23 Dec 10 - 12:21 PM (#3060092)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Les from Hull

If you want to follow the South Yorkshire tradition, you should start on the Sunday after Remembrance Day (11 November).


23 Dec 10 - 07:23 PM (#3060354)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Joe_F

The Canadian Pub Caroler, compiled by Shelley Posen (OFC Publications, Ottawa, 2001. www.ottawafolklore.com

Arise and Hail!: a collection of Christmas Music from the West Gallery Tradition..., selected and arranged by Bruce A. Randall (2006)


23 Dec 10 - 09:24 PM (#3060411)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: Chris in Portland

Thanks to Les and Joe, Shelley was here a month ago with Finest Kind.
I'd like to be doing Welsh plygain, but it is hard to do them as solos!

'Dolig Llawen, Chris


24 Dec 10 - 01:06 PM (#3060766)
Subject: RE: Pub carols lyrics & tunes sources needed
From: GUEST,Tim

Two of my favourites :


Knapp's tune to While Shepherds
http://www.rodingmusic.co.uk/downloads/mus07/62/RM062.pdf

Merritt's Angels from the realms
http://lgq.org.uk/Repertoire/PDFs/LGQ176.pdf