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BS: The worlds best pie

27 Nov 10 - 01:17 PM (#3041505)
Subject: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S

I've decided that the worlds best pie is either Pecan Pie or Key Lime Pie. It's a tie. End of story. And anyone who disagrees is just a troll.


27 Nov 10 - 01:19 PM (#3041506)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: VirginiaTam

mmmm pecan pie ... then key lime as a palate cleanser so you can have some more pecan pie


27 Nov 10 - 01:33 PM (#3041511)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

Beef and Oyster


27 Nov 10 - 01:33 PM (#3041512)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon

Humble pie but I'm not to good at eating it...


27 Nov 10 - 01:40 PM (#3041517)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

At the moment, it's coconut cream pie from Nanna's Bakery as far as Mum is concerned.

Me, I gotta go with strawberry-rhubarb and a strong cup of tea.


27 Nov 10 - 01:43 PM (#3041519)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon

I suppose being more food thinking Pip's Spinach and cheese pie has to be up with the best.


27 Nov 10 - 01:46 PM (#3041522)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon

And for a sweet pie. apple pie.


27 Nov 10 - 01:51 PM (#3041523)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

Many years ago, I grew out of Boston Cream Pie. My current preference is a cheese cake make with cream cheese [no ricotta, thank you] and key lime. Why waste stomach volume on a lot of crust?


27 Nov 10 - 01:53 PM (#3041525)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Apple.


27 Nov 10 - 01:55 PM (#3041527)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

If it was made with my grandfather LeBlanc's crust recipe you would. Even melt in yiour mouth flaky on the bottom.


27 Nov 10 - 01:57 PM (#3041529)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

Flaky on the bottom g?
Sounds a bit rude to me ☺☻ ☺


27 Nov 10 - 01:58 PM (#3041531)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: ClaireBear

Mincemeat from my own recipe.

Second-best is T-Day Leftovers Pie, which is everything you had for Thanksgiving dinner (turkey, yams, peas, dressing, cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, gravy...) moistened with a bit of turkey gravy and baked en croute, preferably deep-dish. Better than Thanksgiving dinner!


27 Nov 10 - 02:09 PM (#3041540)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: VirginiaTam

ClaireBear That sounds like my Boxing Day pie... Christmas turkey, parsnips, roast taters and gravy, in an oven dish covered with stuffing, drizzled with more gravy.


27 Nov 10 - 02:16 PM (#3041542)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

I do Bubble ans squeak with my Christmas leftovers, although it never includes turkey. Not fond of turkey, find it too dry, and a bit coarse in texture.
Shall be having pork and crackling, with all trimmings for my Christmas dinner
Add onions, and chop up some of the meat, throw in the leftover veg, add some butter, and fry briskly. The aim is to get the edges crispy.
Yummy


27 Nov 10 - 02:20 PM (#3041551)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Doug Chadwick

....either Pecan Pie or Key Lime Pie.

How that be the world's best pie? Where's the meat?


DC


27 Nov 10 - 02:39 PM (#3041564)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bobert

The P-Vine's apple pie is, by far, the world's best pie... Period... End of discussion...

B~


27 Nov 10 - 02:40 PM (#3041565)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Lemon meringue or key lime

Pumpkin topped with whipped cream

Rhubarb topped with whipped cream

Any pot pie- chicken, turkey leftover-

I never met a pie I didn't like.


27 Nov 10 - 02:51 PM (#3041573)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

Bobert... Saturday night eh?


27 Nov 10 - 04:41 PM (#3041627)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

My favourite is cherry.


27 Nov 10 - 04:47 PM (#3041631)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince

Sorry Wesley, but pecan pie is my next-to-the-bottom choice, just above mincemeat pie, which I've never been able to understand at all. It's not that I consider mincemeat really bad food, it's just that every other kind of pie (I'm thinking in terms of dessert pies) is better. The best pie in the world is a proper banana cream; but I eat apple, cherry, and pumpkin more, so as to save banana cream for special sublime moments.
What about buttermilk pie? I ordered a piece in Death Valley Junction, at the Amargosa Cafe, just to try something I had never heard of, but someone who walked in just ahead of us got the last piece they had.


27 Nov 10 - 07:26 PM (#3041698)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49

I'm pretty much with you Wes except that nowadays I can't eat pecans dammit(divertidlar problems***sigh***..............Karen bakes some wonderful killer fruit pies and her crusts are unbelievable. But at the very top of my list is this ridiculously sweet and rich................

BUTTERMILK PIE (makes 2 pies)

Make up two of your favorite recipe deep dish pie shells or buy a couple of premade....your choice. Sorry you can't have Karen's! Brown them a bit before adding the filling.

FILLING:
Ingredients:
5 Cups Granulated Sugar
6 Tablespoons Flour
10 Tablespoons Butter
6 Eggs
3 Cups Buttermilk
2 teaspoons Vanilla
2 teaspoons vinegar

Combine the sugar and flour. Melt the butter in a separate bowl then mix in the eggs,buttermilk,vanilla,and vinegar. Mix well!!! Add in the sugar/flour and continue mixing.....good mixing is important.

Pour the filling mixture into the pie shells and bake at 400 for 10 minutes, then turn down to 350 for an additional 40-50 minutes (clean toothpick check). Let cool and EAT!!!

**************************************************************


Have a supply of antacid handy (and some rope to tie down your kids is helpful too).

Enjoy (and so will your dentist)

Spaw


27 Nov 10 - 07:43 PM (#3041705)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bill D

I just had one of the best pecan pies I ever ate.....and pecan pie **done right** is sure hard to beat! I haven't had good mincemeat pie in 40 years, but have memories of my mother making it.

However....I HAVE had fresh Gooseberry Pie, and it was beyond sublime. Hard to find fresh Gooseberries here though.

Then.... a friend makes a Cranberry-Pecan pies to die for....

And Keylime pie made 'just right' is heaven....

of course, Banana Creme is wonderful....

And, growing up, I preferred Cherry pie with vanilla ice cream....and...and...and I do NOT care for Rhubarb or Pumpkin- you may have my share.
-----------------------------\\

So....one day to live and an offer of ONE piece of pie made perfectly? I guess it would be the fresh Gooseberry.


27 Nov 10 - 08:27 PM (#3041724)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S

Mmmmmmm Buttermilk pie. Very near the top of my list along with lemon chess pie and peanut butter pie. I may need a shot of insulin just thinking about them.


27 Nov 10 - 08:53 PM (#3041731)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince

Hey, thanks, Spaw!

A more recent discovery for me is 5-fruit pie, that I first had in Quebec a few years ago. I have found it in at least one Ontario restaurant, and my wife has whipped one up at least once. Not too bad.


27 Nov 10 - 08:54 PM (#3041733)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie

If made from fresh pie pumpkins, then pumpkin pie is my favorite.


27 Nov 10 - 09:08 PM (#3041737)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Mrrzy

I finally switched allegiance from Ron's apple pie, named for a long-discarded ex-uncle of my kids' whose pie was so incredibly scrumptious there was no way it was going out with the bathwater, to my sister (not Ron's ex)'s cherry pie that somehow has marzipan in it... aaahhh, I LOVE Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry for trolling, Wes, you know I love you!


27 Nov 10 - 09:34 PM (#3041748)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Leadfingers

My Ex did a good pie , but she never beat My Old Mom for either sweet OR savoury !
Dont want to fight with any one but for me . Mom's pies are the winners - Shame that at nearly 95 she doesnt cook very much now !


27 Nov 10 - 11:24 PM (#3041774)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

Actually, Lady Hillary made a killer squash and pumpkin pie for Thursday. She used fresh pumpkin and butternut squash as the base. At presentation, she used a firm yogurt [homemade] as a topping. Knockout!


27 Nov 10 - 11:35 PM (#3041778)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: jeffp

Fresh blueberry pie with Grand Marnier in it to wake up the flavor of the berries. A great midsummer favorite.


27 Nov 10 - 11:46 PM (#3041783)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,mark-s(on the road)

Apple pie.

BUT YOU HAVE TO USE FUJI APPLES!
AND LARD IN THE CRUST!

Other than that, no strong opinions!

Mark


27 Nov 10 - 11:48 PM (#3041784)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: LadyJean

This was above a chess thread when I found it. Which made me think, chess pie, found only below the Mason Dixon line, is pretty good.


27 Nov 10 - 11:51 PM (#3041785)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle

If you ever find yourself in the Eagle centre, Derby - try the Chicken and Vermouth pie/ one of my favourites.


27 Nov 10 - 11:55 PM (#3041790)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Skivee

I don't mean to contrary, but all those whom embrace the twin evils that are Key Lime pie and Mince Meat are doing simply doing the work of Satan.
Fresh Peach and Cherry are the only true pies. Dissenting opinions are invalid.


28 Nov 10 - 12:11 AM (#3041793)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie

Not fond of custards (except for pumpkin.) A textural preference, I think.

The crust makes the pie, imho, whether sweet or savory. As much art and practice as science, in my experience.

Like 99% of people who make pies, I don't use lard because it so remarkably bad for you, but got to agree with Mark that it takes lard to make the truly perfect pie crust.

After pumpkin, I'd have to agree with the cherry pie lovers - no - wait - Apple - er - maybe blueberry?


28 Nov 10 - 01:32 AM (#3041803)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

Skivee, where would you wish to meet at sword's point to have a dialogue on the matter...and who are your seconds?


28 Nov 10 - 01:39 AM (#3041806)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

Your intolerably pedantic statement is an insult to Lady Hillary's effort. I presume the weapon of choice will be epees, which I shall be pleased to provide.


28 Nov 10 - 01:41 AM (#3041807)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion

Do you Yoosers over there have what we Yookers over here call "Shepherd's Pie"? ~~ a misnomer really, because it isn't a pie, because it hasn't a pastry crust, but a dish of minced lamb served under browned mashed potatoes: can be done with minced beef also, but then it is called Cottage Pie. I repeat, neither really strictly a 'pie' in the generally accepted sense of having a pastry case & topping; but delicious dishes nonetheless.

~Michael~


28 Nov 10 - 01:43 AM (#3041808)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion

...& to clarify: what we call "minced meat" {as distinct from mincemeat, which is the fruit & brandy &c concoction which goes into mincepies} is what you I believe call "ground meat".

~M~


28 Nov 10 - 05:56 AM (#3041852)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Dave Hanson

The best pie in the world is the good old growler, end of.

Dave H


28 Nov 10 - 06:30 AM (#3041869)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arnie

Home-made steak and kidney is my favourite. On the dessert side, home-made apple pie with cream is tops!


28 Nov 10 - 06:50 AM (#3041886)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

Mince is mince Mike. It's named only by the meat from which it's made, eg pork mince, lamb mince, beef mince, etc.
Mincemeat is always the delicious concoction of peel, currants, raisins, sultanas, nuts, and suet,(vegetarian if you must) with added alcohol.
We make our own, as shop bought tends to be both, too sweet, and too fine in texture.


28 Nov 10 - 07:07 AM (#3041894)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: JennyO

Steak and ale pie for me! Or a good apple pie. Rob has been turning out some wonderful crumbles lately - latest was apple and blueberry, and rhubarb and apple was great too - but I suppose they don't really qualify as pies.

And of course, no thread about pie would be complete without This!


28 Nov 10 - 07:07 AM (#3041895)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon

Can't remember the last time Pip made mincemeat, John but yes it beats shop bought! (and here it would be veggie suet)


28 Nov 10 - 07:33 AM (#3041911)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: VirginiaTam

funny pie sketch

Must do seconds to savour the real nuances of flavour..


28 Nov 10 - 08:22 AM (#3041929)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

Mock Cherry pie is also nice:

1 Cup Fresh Canrberries
1/2 Cup Dark Raisins
1/2 Cup Sugar
1 TBSP. Flour
1/2 Cup Water
1/4 tsp. Vanilla
1 unbaked pie shell


28 Nov 10 - 09:10 AM (#3041947)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S

I might add that the only proper liquid refreshment with my forementioned pies are a cold glass of milk or strong coffee.

Tea - not so much.


28 Nov 10 - 09:19 AM (#3041951)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle

Fish and finger pie in Penny lane reputedly quite good.


28 Nov 10 - 09:38 AM (#3041962)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,999

Gotta be steak and kidley.

Fellow says, I`d like two pounds of kidley. Butcher says what. Guy repeats: I`d like two pounds of kidley. Butcher says, you mean kidney dontcha. Guy responds, that what I said, diddle I.


28 Nov 10 - 09:47 AM (#3041969)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

I heard you the first time.
Which reminds me of the bloke who walked into the chip shop and said. "Fish and chips twice please"
The man behind the counter said.........
"I heard you the first time"


Boom boom

Quick, somebody dial 999


28 Nov 10 - 10:02 AM (#3041973)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Jon

-I'd watch chip shops


28 Nov 10 - 11:29 AM (#3042012)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amos

You'd have to go a ways to find a pie better than the Dutch Apple sold by Coco's. There is one bette,r though. It's the home-made crumb-top apple pie made at the Rock Springs Cafe in the desert hills fifty miles north of Pheonix.


A


28 Nov 10 - 12:02 PM (#3042027)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion

Agreed, John MacK ~~ except that beef-mince &c can also be called minced beef &c; & mince pies, as I said before, are made from what we both call mincemeat, which uses the old-fashioned meaning of 'meat' to mean any food, & contains NO meat in the modern sense at all.

BTW, why no mention so far of desperate Dan's cow-pie?

~Michael~


28 Nov 10 - 12:05 PM (#3042028)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

Skivee, as I was discussing my previous posting with Lady Hillary, she suggested that a more appropriate challenge would be cream pies at 5 paces, followed by adjournment to the nearest tavern.


28 Nov 10 - 12:16 PM (#3042035)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Silas

Pukka Balti Pie!


28 Nov 10 - 12:31 PM (#3042054)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza

Oh dear, last night I watched the film Sweeny Todd on TV. Mrs Lovatt's Meat Pie Emporium! I don't want to think about pies for a few days after that.


28 Nov 10 - 12:57 PM (#3042073)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Skivee, incognito

EB My prefered weaponry would be me with my custom built saber vs. you with the custard pies...followed by you buying me a drink :-).
In truth , about the only pie I REALLY detest is the terrible American style Mincemeat...awful.


28 Nov 10 - 01:17 PM (#3042089)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arthur_itus

Fleur De Lys pies from Lowsonford, Henley-in-Arden,
Warwickshire have always been the best for me and with a tradition.

Have a read http://www.fleurdelys-lowsonford.com/page6.htm

Used to love my Fluer De Ly pie and a bovril at half time at Villa Park


28 Nov 10 - 01:23 PM (#3042100)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

Very well, you with your sabre and me with the cream pies at 5 paces. Where would you like to meet?


28 Nov 10 - 01:30 PM (#3042106)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arthur_itus

Villa Park :-)


28 Nov 10 - 01:37 PM (#3042112)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Skivee, again

I don't know where this "Villa Park" is, but it sounds like a lovely place for a pie fight. Failing that, you can propose your local watering hole.
Can you slice a pie properly with a sword?


28 Nov 10 - 01:44 PM (#3042119)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arthur_itus

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/VirtualTour/0,,10265,00.html

"Can you slice a pie properly with a sword?"

No but I sure can eat the slices :-)


28 Nov 10 - 02:00 PM (#3042129)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

Skivee, Lady Hillary and I have been drooling over a boat on eBay down your way [Maryland Marina, near Baltimore]. Although we don't intend to buy it, perhaps we could meet at the boat yard, admire the boat and proceed about our business.

Perhaps next Sunday?


28 Nov 10 - 02:13 PM (#3042138)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: WalkaboutsVerse

We could do with one of those charts.


28 Nov 10 - 02:17 PM (#3042141)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

And, there is frozen Sara Lee Dutch Apple pie for $3 on sale here. Pretty hard to beat a large and delicious pie for $3 that bakes in an hour. No way you can buy the ingredients for that price and m/bake one in an hour. No muss, no fuss.


28 Nov 10 - 02:27 PM (#3042147)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Arthur_itus

What's a muss?


28 Nov 10 - 02:33 PM (#3042159)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S

A French fuss.


28 Nov 10 - 02:50 PM (#3042173)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: JennyO

Come to think of it, there IS another pie that I should mention. When Rob and I were in Australia, I introduced him to Harry's Cafe de Wheels down at Wooloomooloo, to sample their world famous pie floaters (meat pies topped with mushy peas). He liked his so much, he went straight back and bought another one.

Anyone who ever visits Sydney should put Harrys on their "must see" list. It's a unique experience to perch on a wall looking at the water while you are eating one of those mouth-watering delights!


28 Nov 10 - 03:20 PM (#3042197)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince

U.S.type people have been known to eat shepherd's pie, too. Over here it's something like banjos; no one admits to having any respect for it, but a lot of people secretly like it. The last I had myself was a while back as a free evening meal at the Green Tortois Hostel in San Francisco.


28 Nov 10 - 04:03 PM (#3042234)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

I love an egg banjo


28 Nov 10 - 04:33 PM (#3042259)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: WalkaboutsVerse

JennyO: the pie floater must have crossed states - it used to be a South Australian thing, which I sunk into whilst a student at Adelaide University...where next for this pie in the sky?!


28 Nov 10 - 06:07 PM (#3042329)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Tortiere, or Quebec meat pie, is as variable as there are cooks in Quebec.
This one includes potatoes, and is known as

Tortiere du Lac Saint Jean.

1 pound ground pork
2 medium potatoes, peeled and grated
1 onion, medium, chopped
2 cloves garlic (or use the paste that comes in a jar- stronger)
1/4 teaspoon cloves
1/4 teaspoon cinnamon
2/3 teaspoon savory
1 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon white pepper
1/2 cup water (more or less)

(A recipe I saw at Gatehouse Gourmet adds shredded carrot and chopped celery and parsley). Many variations possible. I have had one made with ground chicken breast; very good.

Put all ingredients in a thick skillet.
Bring to a boil, stirring to keep pieces small.
Add a small splash armagnac or cognac and mix in well in the last few minutes of cooking.

Cool before filling pie shell(largish pie pan)
Top with remaining pastry
Brush with beaten egg (some thin with water)

Bake at 400 F. until golden brown (350-400F for approx. 1 hour).
(Traditional is a steam hole. Use finger to make a little funnel in the centre to let steam escape while baking).
Best served hot, but leftover is good cold at breakfast.

Pastry must be lard. No substitute.

Serve with a good wine.


28 Nov 10 - 06:09 PM (#3042331)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Forgot to thank Catspaw for the Buttermilk Pie recipe. Many years since I had one.


28 Nov 10 - 06:40 PM (#3042356)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

The best pie in the world is a Pizza pie:

covered with spicy tomato sauce or BBQ sauce and smothered with varied cheeze products,

and loaded with your personal choice of toppings:

pepperoni, Italian Sausage (sweet or hot or both), salami, smoked sausage, kielbasa, bratwurst, weisswurst, knockwurst, cut up slim jims, beef jerky, ground beef, fajita beef, nacho beef, carne asada, carne al pastor, barbacoa, taco meat, gyros meat, donair meat, ground pork, Canadian bacon, breakfast sausage, boiled ham, baked ham, virginia cured ham, baloney, weiner, capaccola, procuitto, jerk pork, BBQ pulled pork, carnitas, turkey sausage, duck sausage, peking duck, poached chicken, fried chicken, fajita chicken, jerk chicken, BBQ chicken, fried egg, anchovies, tofu, bell pepper, peppercini, jalapenos, chipotles in adobo, habeneros, banana peppers, red onion, white onion, green onion, scallions, shallots, leeks, vine ripe tomato, green tomato, sun dried tomato, button mushrooms, shitake mushrooms, crimini, portabello's , Zucchini, ripe black olives, cured kalamata olives, green manzanilla olives, pineapple, dill pickle chips, sweet pickle chips, crumbled potato chips, tortilla chips, smunched doritos, fritos, fun-yum's, or pork rinds.

Baked in an oven fired by gas, electricity or wood.

sprinkled with numerous fresh or dried herbs and/or parmesan and/or romano cheeze.

And a diping sauce, chedder or blue cheese, donair sauce, BBQ sauce, hot sauce, yada yada.

(From, the Urban Dictionary)


28 Nov 10 - 07:42 PM (#3042387)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince

As to meat pies, hare pie has to be the best.


28 Nov 10 - 07:52 PM (#3042394)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Smokey.

My late aunt Margaret's corned beef and onion pies were by far the finest ever. The pastry was so good (as in unhealthy) it was banned under the Geneva convention.

Then there are pork pies, to which I'm extremely partial, but spoilt, as I grew up only a few doors from the most delicious I've ever tasted since.

Bollocks, now I'm hungry..


28 Nov 10 - 07:54 PM (#3042396)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

Froggy.... I love hair pie, but it has been years since I've had a bite.


28 Nov 10 - 07:55 PM (#3042397)
Subject: ADD: Alligator Pie (recitation)
From: Joe Offer

Alligator Pie

Dennis Lee
From:   Alligator Pie. Toronto: Macmillan, 1974.


Alligator pie, alligator pie,
If I don't get some I think I'm gonna die.
Give away the green grass, give away the sky,
But don't give away my alligator pie.

Alligator stew, alligator stew,
If I don't get some I don't know what I'll do.
Give away my furry hat, give away my shoe,
But don't give away my alligator stew.

Alligator soup, alligator soup,
If I don't get some I think I'm gonna droop.
Give away my hockey stick, give away my hoop,
But don't give away my alligator soup.


from Canadian Poetry Online.


28 Nov 10 - 07:57 PM (#3042399)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Smokey.

And make it snappy..


28 Nov 10 - 07:58 PM (#3042401)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: olddude

I hear tell any pie made by Maeve


28 Nov 10 - 08:11 PM (#3042405)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

Seaweed pie?

seaweed pie


28 Nov 10 - 08:59 PM (#3042422)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Jack Campin

Heston Blumenthal: ice cream meat pie


28 Nov 10 - 10:08 PM (#3042454)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince

ice...cream...meat...

is he f**kin' for real?


29 Nov 10 - 05:11 AM (#3042583)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

gnu, here I am resisting the urge to suggest that sort of pie, and there you go mentioning it!


29 Nov 10 - 06:55 AM (#3042628)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy

This is a hard one for me I love all sweet pies I couldn't say my favourite it would take me days to come to a decision. But I will get started Pecan pie, Key Lime pie, Apple pie, Lemon Meringue, Bakewell tart, Manchester tart, Treacle tart, Coconut tart, not sure if it counts but cheese cakes or crumbles too, Apple pie with a crumble top or Rhubarb. Apple and blackberry pie.

For meat pies my favourite ones Steak and Ale Pie, real cornish pasties filled with gravy are moreish I assume they are classed as pies of a kind. Egg, cheese, Onion and Bacon pie is nice which I suppose is technically a cover hot quiche nice hot or cold.


29 Nov 10 - 10:55 AM (#3042782)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bill D

sign in a small restaurant window:

"Pie like Mother used to make- $1.25. Pie like he SAYS she made $1.75"


29 Nov 10 - 11:38 AM (#3042802)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

According to Desperate Dan, it has to be Cow Pie Pic 2 of 6


29 Nov 10 - 11:41 AM (#3042804)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

A second helping


29 Nov 10 - 11:54 AM (#3042819)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion

As this thread is coincidentally ongoing at the time I read it, here is an extract from Giles Coren's restaurant column in Saturday's Times Magazine:

"··· started with a Herefordshire snail and bacon pie so big that Desperate Dan would have belched and pushed it away before he was halfway through. All it lacked was a pair of feelers sticking out to go the full Cow Pie. A preposterous starter. But wonderful eating: full of fat English snails, rich and gutsy under thick, shiny pastry."

YUM!

~Michael~


29 Nov 10 - 11:58 AM (#3042822)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amos

"It's GOOD, though..."


'Nuff said.


A


29 Nov 10 - 01:20 PM (#3042886)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MMario

The best pie in the world is the one I get to eat.

so it varies depending on what I am eating...

Frozen Key Lime pie is excellent; a good pecan pie is hard to beat. Buttermilk pie is sinfully good and probably supports more doctors then any other pie.

A good mincemeat pie is a treasure; And why call it mock cherry when cranberry pie is so good on it's own?

Savoury pies are a whole 'nother class of stuff...

And cheesecakes are seperate from pie
As is boston cream pie - which is about as much a pie as Manhatten clam chowder is a chowder. Calling a skunk cabbage a rose doesn't make it smell any sweeter.


29 Nov 10 - 01:22 PM (#3042890)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Becca72

You all can keep your minced meat, key lime and cherry. BLECK I say!

Chocolate cream with graham cracker crust for me, please.

OR

Hot apple pie with French vanilla ice cream.


29 Nov 10 - 02:04 PM (#3042923)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

Joe... 'Give away my hockey stick,..." That's just not Canadian.

froggy... at mémère LeBlanc's, the turkey was left on the table to be had with pie and ice cream. An old Acadian tradition.


29 Nov 10 - 03:22 PM (#3042999)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: PoppaGator

I can't believe that no one has yet mentioned SWEET POTATO PIE. Must be due to the overwhelmingly "caucasian" (i.e., pigmentally-challenged) population hereabouts.

Sweet potato pie is very similar to pumpkin pie ~ same seasonings, etc. The texture is perhaps a bit heavier, the color slightly darker, and the flavor is just a little different. The main difference is that, traditionally, African-American people have used yams (sweet potatoes) rather than pumpkins to make their orange-colored custard pies. Soul food, in other words.

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My maternal grandmother was an immigrant from Alsace-Lorraine, and was an incredible pastry chef whose apple pies were invariably pronounced the best-ever-tasted by just about everyone fortunate enough to have enjoyed a sample. Her Irish-immigrant husband was famously insistent upon being "American" and forgetting about "the other side" (the Old Country, or in their case, old countrIES), so he insisted that she make her fabulous Apple Streudel in a round pie pan, transforming it from a European delicacy into an "All-American" apple pie.

Grandma's apple filling was very good of course, just sweet enough, but her pie crust was what really made it special. She always talked about how it would be even better if Grandpa would let her use lard, but she made do with Crisco (solid shortening). The trick, apparently, is to handle the dough as little as possible to keep it light rather than tough. Even her bottom crust was flaky! (Yes, that is possible.)

My mother never learned her mother's knack for pastry, but fortunately, one of my (male) cousins studied with Grandma, successfully, and can now make the second-best apple pie in known human history.

I can't say I have any single favorite kind of pie. I like apple, of course, but since no regular-type top crust can ever measure up to Grandma's, I usually opt for the crumb-topped or "Dutch" apple pie.

I am also quite partial to mince pie, and can't understand why so many people I know claim to dislike it. To me, nothing else tastes so much like Christmas as that good old mincemeat filling. I bought and "baked" a frozen Mrs. Smith's mince pie over the weekend and was very pleased with it; the filling was tastier and freer of aftertaste than the "Nonesuch" brand canned mincemeat available for making a more "homemade" mince pie (i.e., canned filling in a homemade shell).


29 Nov 10 - 03:38 PM (#3043009)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

So, what kind'a apples makes the best apple pie?


29 Nov 10 - 04:55 PM (#3043070)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Desert Dancer

Stayman winesaps

(Lord, it's been too many years out in the West... nary a winesap to be had.)

~ Becky in Long Beach


29 Nov 10 - 05:15 PM (#3043088)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

Howgate Wonder


29 Nov 10 - 05:41 PM (#3043104)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bill D

Some people have, unfortunately, been fed bad examples of mincemeat, raisin...etc. It is possible to ruin a basically good pie with cheap, over-sweetened, plastic-like ingredients....so of course they will not rush for more of those pies.


29 Nov 10 - 05:48 PM (#3043114)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MGM·Lion

Apple pies here are always made with Bramley apples. Do you have those over there?

~M~


29 Nov 10 - 05:57 PM (#3043127)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

Bread pudding apple pie


29 Nov 10 - 06:22 PM (#3043141)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

Bread and butter pudding Yum


29 Nov 10 - 06:57 PM (#3043158)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Bill D

We don't know apples by the name Bramley.... we have many types, and a common one for pies is Granny Smith


29 Nov 10 - 07:26 PM (#3043176)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: maeve

Bramley's Seedling was indeed brought over to the US many years ago. It can still be found in some old orchards and those specializing in heritage apples.

Olddude- Thanks.


30 Nov 10 - 12:04 AM (#3043301)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: maeve

PoppaGator- My South Carolina grandmother made a wondrous fine Sweet Potato Pie; another recipe lost in the fire.


30 Nov 10 - 12:22 AM (#3043306)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: LadyJean

I had forgotten sweet potato pie. There was a garden club made up of African American ladies who sold about the best I've ever had at the May Market. Along with the mushroom sandwiches and the dipped strawberries that pie was the best thing at the market. Alas those excellent ladies don't come anymore. You can still get the strawberries. After many years of dipping them, I hate the sight of the things, but they're good. The mushroom sandwiches are also available.


30 Nov 10 - 01:57 AM (#3043330)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49

Like the best pumpkin, sweet potato pie is best made with fresh taters rather than the canned crap. I ran across a good recipe that works well for all the squash type fillings whether it be tater or punkin or acorn or butternut squash. The real secret I found was never to overmash the mix, leave it a bit lumpy......I was surprised at how the texture difference improved the pies.

I rarely see any Custard Pie anymore and that which I do is lousy. My Dad was a big nut for Custard and it was only when I got older that I realized the delicate flavor and how it is maunly ruined by most cooks.   I think I'll beg Karen to make them her next learning project...LOL......

Spaw


30 Nov 10 - 02:51 AM (#3043341)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy

There is nothing worse than a undercooked soggy bottomed pie I have had the odd one served up in some restaurants and it is awful. Has anyone got any good tips for good pastry?


30 Nov 10 - 04:56 AM (#3043384)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

Soggy Bottom pie, must be what they serve in Washington DC, in the State Department staff restaurant.


30 Nov 10 - 05:01 AM (#3043388)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Donuel

strawberry rhubarb


30 Nov 10 - 10:40 AM (#3043565)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: MikeL2

hi

Tonight the best pie in the World is the steak & kidney home-made pie that my wife has in the over.

It is still 2 hours to dinner but the smell of the pie cooking is driving me crazy.

Cheers

Mikel2


30 Nov 10 - 04:16 PM (#3043798)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,mg

People recommend prebaking the crust sometimes..at least partially..with some pie stones or beans or something in to keep it flat...I was talking with a friend..I happen to make wonderful pies but I can't stand the thought of eating anything so ..to me it is slimey..mg


30 Nov 10 - 04:51 PM (#3043824)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John MacKenzie

Blind baking I call it. I use dried haricot beans, but you can buy clay balls specially for the purpose


30 Nov 10 - 04:53 PM (#3043827)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince

mg, I'm sorry but you lost me there; does the slimy refer to something about the crust, or to the steak and kidneys, or?

Would you believe we have a buttermilk pile, 'Spaw's recipe, in the oven right now. Soon I'll find out if I agree with him, or think he's crazy for eating the stuff. Sadly, my wife really doesn't dare get near more than a nibble of anything with sugar content like this; she would have to add an extra bucket of insulin.

Actually, it just came out of the oven a minute ago, so we'll soon see.


30 Nov 10 - 04:56 PM (#3043831)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince

And after the buttermilk pile, we may try a buttermilk pie!


30 Nov 10 - 05:27 PM (#3043860)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

Old Fashioned Strawberry Pie
(uncooked strawberries, with whipped cream on top)


30 Nov 10 - 06:53 PM (#3043909)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: frogprince

Well, 'Spaw, thanks for the recipe; I think we followed it very carefully, and I would say the pie is a little somethin' different, and tasty; but I really can't say that I find it as interesting, or appealing, as any number of fruit pies, or banana cream or chocolate cream. I didn't have a cup of coffee ready to go with it; I think a cup of fairly strong coffee might make it work just a little better for me.


30 Nov 10 - 07:53 PM (#3043943)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S

"Spaw's Buttermilk Pile"

Now THAT'S a song title for you.....

Just waiting for someone brave enough to write it.


30 Nov 10 - 11:59 PM (#3044017)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

John, I thought you knew that the Soggy Bottom Pie is indigenous to the same area that gave birth to the Soggy Bottom Boys, of Blessed Memory.


01 Dec 10 - 07:55 AM (#3044070)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amergin

My gramma is the pie queen....every christmas she makes pecan pies, sour cream and raisin pies, pumpkin, mince meat....and so on....


01 Dec 10 - 02:42 PM (#3044350)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

Dave's Mom... it's a "regular bit".


02 Dec 10 - 09:55 AM (#3044898)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy

I'm not the worlds best pastry cook I don't think I am anyway. It's not me who made the soggy bottom by the way I sampled this once in a High Street cafe in the town. It is slimy stodgey when you try to put a spoon through it rather than crisp and it does spoil the whole thing, more like a slimy gloop in the mouth, yuck.

Bakewell tart can be good it has a pastry base, layer of jam and sponge mixture on top with some almond essence added. But alternative flavours can be added to change it a bit and instead of raspberry jam a layer of cherry is nice with custard, cream or a scoop of ice-cream to top it.


02 Dec 10 - 10:50 AM (#3044935)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49

LOL @ Froggy......Well thank you for trying and being so tactful!!! It isn't something for everybody as most reasonable people can't stand that much sugar in anything! Rick Fieding tried one once and said "Thanks for the recipe for solidified Sweetened Condensed Milk."

And Q....Glad to have helped (;<))

Spaw


02 Dec 10 - 02:29 PM (#3045107)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Sweetened condensed milk- my wife refuses to use it, period!

I remember, when I was a child, swiping a can of the stuff and eating it with a spoon. I couldn't do that now. I also used to gnaw on cones of hard brown sugar that my parents brought back from Mexico. My sugar intake when I was a kid was phenomenal. I think it contributed to my (so far) long healthy life!


02 Dec 10 - 04:39 PM (#3045192)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49

LOL.....about two months back, Karen opened a can of SWM by accident and put it in the fridge for another time which cam a week later. When she went to retrieve the can it was empty and I said I figured Tristan did it...........didn't work. The damn stuff still tastes good but it now takes me a week to eat a can.......LOL

Spaw


03 Dec 10 - 12:07 AM (#3045371)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

SWM?


03 Dec 10 - 06:25 AM (#3045452)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: maeve

SWM = SCM


03 Dec 10 - 07:14 AM (#3045470)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

SWM = Single, white male

SCM - Single, condensed male (eats pie alot)


03 Dec 10 - 08:07 AM (#3045493)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T

The worlds best pie-Don't ask don't tell


03 Dec 10 - 11:02 AM (#3045608)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle

Let's try that again, Spaw. A can of SWM?


03 Dec 10 - 12:55 PM (#3045670)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amergin

Yeah, Ebarnacle, haven't you heard of that? It's a boy toy in a can....you gotta keep him cool to keep him fresh though. Otherwise he'll get too spoiled.


13 Dec 11 - 08:55 AM (#3273077)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Wesley S

A friend just told me that she has a recipe for an apple pie with green chilies. I can't wait to get it and try it out.


13 Dec 11 - 09:16 AM (#3273085)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: wysiwyg

There's a pie served around these parts that is a cross between apple crumb pie and cheesecake. TBTG when the place that had it closed, another place started making a similar one!

~S~


14 Dec 11 - 02:15 AM (#3273453)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger

Becky, it's not being in the west, it's agri-business has taken dozens of fabulous old apple varieties out of the orchards in favour of newer. I don't recall the last time I saw a Stayman for sale -- probably 30 plus years ago when I worked at a cider mill. Might still be available in Mennonite areas of Ontario but I can't say for sure.

Fortunately there are people still growing whatever varieties will survive locally, either by experimenting themselves or from old-orchard grafts, but they're becoming more and more scarce. Another gene pool almost drained.


14 Dec 11 - 12:55 PM (#3273709)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle

Ours not to reason why
Ours but to eat the pie!

(Fletch in Porridge)


14 Dec 11 - 01:41 PM (#3273740)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Rapparee

...was made by my mother.


14 Dec 11 - 02:37 PM (#3273780)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza

Steak and kidney pie. Lamb's kidneys and fairly inexpensive casserole beef. The best thing is not to add a load of fancy ingredients. Just chopped onion, salt and pepper. Casserole the meat and kidneys for long enough to make them tender (about 2 hrs). Thicken with Bisto gravy powder (not the granules, horrid stuff, the original powder) Allow to cool. Make the pastry with a mixture of plain and self-raising flour (about twice as much plain to SF) And use LARD (Gasp! Horror! Cholesterol!) and margarine, half fat to flour. Roll it quite thick. Make the pie up, saving most of the gravy, seal the lid with milk. Cook quite slowly for 40 minutes. Use the gravy for the meal, on top of the spuds and vegetables. It's nice cold too.


14 Dec 11 - 03:34 PM (#3273810)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Wesley S

It's hard to believe that people actually eat organs. To each his own. You're welcome to my share.....


14 Dec 11 - 07:50 PM (#3273921)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle

Oh yes I had a Hammond organ, AT LEAST IT DIDN'T COME IN MY MOUTH -LIKE A MOUTH ORGAN CAN DO.

To this day, if anyones got a nice big Farfisa.....still turns me on a bit.

Did you know Fulham FC are cALLED THE COTTAGERS.

and its not cos of their taste in pies.


15 Dec 11 - 05:15 AM (#3274073)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Musket

I skimmed through this thread rather fast. (Anything with pies in it is going to get me to click it.)

I take it nobody has mentioned hairy pies yet?

I'll get me coat.


15 Dec 11 - 08:21 AM (#3274142)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)

Mrs BAS and her mate once went into a bakers in Bolton and asked if they had any pies. The lady said, 'Eee, lass, have we got any pies? We've got every sort of pie you could want. We've got meat, we've got meat and potato, we've got shortcrust, and we've got flaky'.

Quite right too.


15 Dec 11 - 09:24 AM (#3274164)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy

French apple tart has to be one of the best. It tastes and looks delicious especially with cinnamon syrup brushed over the top layer of sliced apples. The tart is delicious served hot or cold whatever the season with a dollop of whatever you fancy on top, cream, ice-cream or custard.


15 Dec 11 - 10:57 AM (#3274193)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: ranger1

My adopted gran's apple pies were the absolute best. We'd sneak downstairs the morning after whichever holiday it was and have a big slice for breakfast.


15 Dec 11 - 11:06 PM (#3274569)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle

People often forget the part pies have played in our culture.

I used to love that musical - The King and Pie

then there was the Frank Ifield song - Pie Remember You

The geometrical equation - pies are squared

Davy Crockett - King of the Pie-on-Ears


16 Dec 11 - 12:00 AM (#3274579)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie

I confess I do not understand the applause for assorted custard pies -unless they be pumpkin!

Made with fresh organic pie pumpkins and honey to assuage the the conscience just a wee bit for actually using lard to create the perfect crust. The custard rich but not too sweet, and the custard   creamy but not absent a subtle texture. Lemon, coconut or key lime custards, with their intense sweetness and ultrasmooth texture don't appeal to me.

The crust makes the pie, regardless of the filling, in my book.

Any pie made with fresh fruit, as long as crust is good, appeals.

Having said that, I confess that I have never made a crust with lard - have experimented with oil, butter, coconut and all the healthy alternatives - and finally accepted that the next best thing to lard is Crisco - not nearly as healthy as the other alternatives but not nearly as lethal as lard. I've lost my touch from not cooking or baking much, but at one time was quite proud of the touch I had with pie crusts. Never, ever, however, equaled or surpassed my grandmother's lard crusts.


16 Dec 11 - 01:24 AM (#3274611)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,mg

I think many scientists would say lard is healthy, butter is healthy, coconut oil is healthy and the Crisco is what is deadly. I vote for going with lard, after doing research to your satisfaction. Start with Dr. Mary Enig, fat researcher. mg


16 Dec 11 - 03:08 PM (#3275006)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger

1. My apple pie, lard in the crust, with a subtle amount of nicely balanced spice blend, filling thick enough to allow the pie to be served without collapsing but soft enough to be luscious rather than sticky.

2. My mum's lemon meringue pie recipe when I make it slightly more tart and with 20% more lemon zest (and yes, lard in the crust)

3. There used to be, on Hwy 6 in Mount Forest ON, a greasy spoon (what might be termed a diner in the USA) called Bill's, where his wife made THE most extraordinarily delicious fruit pies with totally edible crusts down to the last crumb. I used to eat some on my way to and from Festival of the Sound. Her pastry was better 'n mine. Unfortunately the place was long ago sold for retirement. If not since torn down and redeveloped, maybe the current owners have finally found a comparable baker...been ages since I was there to see what's up.


16 Dec 11 - 06:41 PM (#3275152)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: KHNic

High Game Pie takes a lot of beating - partridge, pheasant, veal, onion,mushroom, bacon, delicately seasoned with hints of thyme and bay.


16 Dec 11 - 07:34 PM (#3275187)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie

Crowhugger, please invite me for dessert!


16 Dec 11 - 07:48 PM (#3275192)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

Let's here it for lard! I mean, IF yer gonna eat a slice of pie, why not have a GOOD crust? Tender and flakey and not a pile of mushy goo... top OR bottom.

Fer gosh sakes! It's PIE. It's meant to be a decadent treat. Do it right. Just don't eat two slices in one day.... if ya do, well, yer gonna be a lardass.


17 Dec 11 - 06:16 AM (#3275351)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza

Well, I've eaten pies made with a lot of lard in the pastry for seventy years. Also loads and loads of butter, great Hovis doorsteps with half an inch of butter. I've fried almost everything in lard, and put great dollops of butter on greens and spuds. So did my parents and grandparents. And we all lived long lives with hardly any health probs. We also liberally sprinkled things with (gasp! horror!) SALT!! I'm not questioning the science on cholesterol and salt, and I admit I'm a bit tubby (not all that much though, 12 stone) but here I am, still breathing and perfectly healthy. (And have just enjoyed two crumpets for breakfast, dripping with butter) Pies are a most superb thing, and help to make a bit of meat or fruit go a long way.


17 Dec 11 - 09:57 AM (#3275436)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie

Wow, am I outdated! In my youth lard was out as unhealthy and Crisco was in, and I have simply accepted that as "truth" lo these many years.

(thanks for the education, good people.)

I have simply pretty much stayed with Canola, Olive Oil and butter for 40 years. I rarely fry anything, use butter for baking for (except for pie crusts) and simply have not paid attention.

Now, I do read that for lard to be better, it needs to be non-hydrogenated. Is that hard to find in grocery stores?


17 Dec 11 - 10:02 AM (#3275439)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Dave the Gnome

Holland Meat Pies

And here's the song to prove it.

:D tG


17 Dec 11 - 10:35 AM (#3275459)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John on the Sunset Coast

Siberian Peach Pie....and very hard to get. Ask my Uncle Hymie.


17 Dec 11 - 11:49 AM (#3275485)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Manuel

GUEST Eliza is almost cruel to mention those two breakfast crumpets, well toasted as I would imagine. Now my mouth is watering!


17 Dec 11 - 12:35 PM (#3275508)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza

Manuel, they were indeed well-toasted, delicious, and the melted butter ran down my chin... (How to excite a man... tell him about your buttered crumpets!)


17 Dec 11 - 03:19 PM (#3275562)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

Eliza... that leaves the door open for SO many replies. >;-)


17 Dec 11 - 03:40 PM (#3275571)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Dave the Gnome

Eliza - You can drip the butter off your crumpets on me anytime...

Oh, hang on. Is that what Gnu was on about?

:D tG


17 Dec 11 - 03:57 PM (#3275583)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu

You go ahead... I haven't been on for YEARS.


17 Dec 11 - 04:09 PM (#3275586)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: DrugCrazed

Has someone made the 3.14159265358979323846264338327... joke yet? If not, I'll get to it now.


17 Dec 11 - 04:33 PM (#3275597)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Paul Burke

2πr Lord, 2πr,
2πr Lord, 2πr,
2πr Lord, 2πr,
O Lord 2πr

Very pious.


18 Dec 11 - 07:27 AM (#3275913)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza

LOL everyone!! Playboy Centrefold.... two buttered crumpets!!


18 Dec 11 - 08:16 AM (#3275928)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: mayomick

The weight of pies can often be a problem these days. If you get sold a pie that you suspect may be underweight, there's a place you can go to get it checked out .
Somewhere over the rainbow.


18 Dec 11 - 08:21 AM (#3275930)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Manuel

Eliza, that's the spirit. I'm proud of you. Look at what they tried to do to our pure and innocent exchange of remarks!


18 Dec 11 - 11:57 AM (#3276026)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger

Any time Janie!


18 Dec 11 - 12:37 PM (#3276047)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Musket

At the match, for many years, I liked a steak and sidney pie to go with my styrene cup of bovril.

I suppose about ten years ago, I got into Balti pies.

Now you're talking!

Impossible for me to enjoy the second half without my half time rats's coffin.


18 Dec 11 - 01:16 PM (#3276064)
Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle

rat's coffin.........   thanks Ian that's put me off me tea!