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31 Aug 99 - 12:17 PM (#110051) Subject: FSGW Getaway - News From: Ferrara We've had a terrific response from Mudcatters since we issued an invitation to the FSGW Getaway and everyone is very excited. But it's a good wind that blows nobody ill, and the Getaway spaces are filling up weeks earlier than usual. This shouldn't have been a problem. There are plenty of beds, either in cabins or in the reserved motel rooms. But the ovens at this camp are smaller, and the menu that Debbie McClatchy has contracted to provide depends heavily on baking chicken, etc. We're working on the food problem and hope to lick it, but Debbie's in England, having already prepared everything for the Getaway before she left, and won't be back in time to change the menu or prepare more meals. In the meantime we need to be sure that FSGW Getaway regulars have a chance to register. The compromise we've reached is this: For NEW registrations ONLY, we're going to give FSGW members and previous Getaway attendees priority UNTIL SEPTEMBER 20. Mudcatters and other new people who apply in this period will be put on a wait list until that date. If you are on the wait list, we'll let you know on Sept 20, probably by e-mail, whether we have the extra room. By then we hope we will solve the food problem. If we do, we'll have plenty of room. PLEASE NOTE: If you've already mailed your registration, or if the postmark is NLT today, or if you've signed on to do a concert or workshop, you do not have to go on a wait list, ie we can give you a firm "yes." If you decide to register after today, we'll hold your registration until Sept. 20 and let you know then. You can e-mail me for more info, or just post an entry to this thread. To anyone who's missed me -- I've been trying not even to log onto Mudcat lately, because I can't read just one thread -- once I see all the tempting titles, a little switch turns in my head and I have to read everything that interests me. It uses up my time and exhausts the hamsters. - Rita Ferrara
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31 Aug 99 - 02:19 PM (#110092) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Allan C. "we're going to give FSGW members and previous Getaway attendees priority UNTIL SEPTEMBER 20" - Does that refer to existing members? Or if we join now and register for the Getaway as well would we be guaranteed a slot? |
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31 Aug 99 - 02:36 PM (#110098) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Dani Good question. My registration will be in the mail tomorrow! Another question - how will that affect day tripping? Also, would it help if I bring a carload of pancake mix and PB and J's? Dani |
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31 Aug 99 - 03:43 PM (#110134) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Cara Yes, will there be wiggle room for day trippers who don't need food, or for anyone who doesn't need food? |
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31 Aug 99 - 05:19 PM (#110177) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: bbc Is there any provision for non-carnivores in the meals? bbc (asking for Duane D.) |
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31 Aug 99 - 06:57 PM (#110200) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Bill D Hi, this is Ferrara. Bill said there were questions, so I figured I'll answer them as well as I can right away. First, the whole point is that it wouldn't be right to turn the Getaway into primarily a Mudcat reunion when it has been a well-loved FSGW reunion for years. So we are trying to ensure that the *CURRENT* FSGW members, who have been coming to the Getaway for years and take it for granted that they can register at the last minute like they always have, don't find that the doors are shut. We all want the Mudcatters to come. But there are lots of folks who aren't aware that the camp will be crowded this year and that they need to register early. There hasn't been an official decision yet, but for the reasons above, I suspect the committee won't give priority to people who join FSGW just to get to the Getaway. It defeats the goal of trying to be fair to everybody including the regulars who regularly and traditionally register at the last minute because for the last few years there has been plenty of room. Second, it may indeed be helpful for folks to bring their own supply of PB&J or whatever -- but we don't know yet. I.e., yes, there will almost certainly be wiggle room for people who don't need food. We're considering all kinds of ways to make sure everybody can come who wants to come, and BYO meals could be one of them. Or, some people may decide to carpool and go outside the camp for meals. Or, we may be able to fix huge pots of chili and salads and stews for the last 20 or 30 people who register late. Third, day trippers are signed up for lunch and dinner as of now, see comments above about bringing own food. Fourth, I'll check on the vegetarian meals. Usually we have 'em. Does this help any? -- Any more suggestions will be welcomed, since we're looking for ways to make it better. (It already looks like one of the best Getaways ever...) - Rita Ferrara The most important thing is, everyone at FSGW wants everyone at Mudcat to be able to come and we'll do our best. |
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31 Aug 99 - 10:20 PM (#110247) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Big Mick This is very disappointing for me. It has been said a number of times that we need not worry, there is plenty of room. As it happens, I am mailing the money out in tomorrow's mail. I certainly hope that I am able to get in on this. I took a week's vacation just to do this gathering. I understand what you are trying to accomplish, but had I had any inkling that there was a problem, I would have mailed much sooner. Mick |
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31 Aug 99 - 10:45 PM (#110261) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: catspaw49 Hey....how about putting Mick's name on my alredy paid registration? I'm having to make changes anyway and diet wise we'll be basically day tripping with NO FOOD, so instead of refunding me...Put Mick in my place. There isn't some sort of problem with numbers re: daytrippers/no food is there? Spaw |
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31 Aug 99 - 11:17 PM (#110272) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Big Mick That's allright, Spaw. I mailed it with meals included. We will see what happens. Don't change yours. We will get it worked out. You are still coming, I hope. Mick |
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31 Aug 99 - 11:23 PM (#110274) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Bill D hold on...*grin*..message from Rita coming soon.. |
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31 Aug 99 - 11:33 PM (#110277) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: catspaw49 Oh yeah Mick, we're coming, but what I meant was that I'm changing my already in registration which was for me F_M with the works...$95. to several day tripping things for 2 adult and 2 kids with NO meals. Owing some dietary things, it's easier to bring our own food....and in this case, cheaper too in the long run. Spaw |
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01 Sep 99 - 12:31 AM (#110289) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Ferrara First of all let me say that, Mick, since you've tentatively signed on to do a mini-concert, you are considered to have registered. I'll e-mail you on the whole thing but don't worry. Second of all let me say that I appreciate it that no one has jumped on me with both feet about this. (Overall I consider the tone of the comments to be remarkably civilized.) I sprung it on everybody with short notice, mostly because certain decision-makers were out of town before this. I'm sorry the potential for conflict exists at all. In July I asked the Powers-That-Be if we had room for lots of Mudcatters and they said there were about 50 more beds than last year so we'd be fine. It wasn't until much later that someone thought about the problem of a limited number of meals that can be prepared in the ovens. Third, lots of people want all the Mudcatters who are interested to be able to come. We have a lot of 'catters in FSGW now, you know! -- So there's going to be lots of brainstorming and discussion to try to work it out so that no one loses out. I'm still hoping that literally everyone who wants to will be able to come. It will take a fair bit of extra work but we'll sure try. Bear with us a while longer. The old camp (Camp Letts) offered us the whole camp this year at twice the cost, or half the camp and no dining hall for the old price. We have been scrambling to find a permanent, reasonably priced, comfortable, conveniently located, adequate spot with plenty of concert space and a great kitchen and dining hall. Not surprisingly, compromises were necessary. OK, hang in there, we'll do the best you can. Thanks again for the amount of understanding people have shown. - Rita Ferrara |
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01 Sep 99 - 08:03 AM (#110348) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Jeri Just a viewpoint. It's remarkable that the FSGW, a local folkie organization, would open it's event doors to a horde of Mudcatters descending from outside the organization, many of whom they've never before met. I appreciate it - I think we all do. No one wants to crowd anyone out, and I'm sure if there's a way we can help, all you have to do is let us know how. I can personally survive on fewer than three meals a day, and wouldn't have a problem just grabbing a sandwich for lunch. I could kick myself for having been a member of the FSGW for several years and never once attending the Getaway because I didn't know people very well - it would have been a great opportunity to remedy that. To end with an idea, organizations that do a lot of camping-type activities may have field kitchens - e.g. Scouts, National Guard. |
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01 Sep 99 - 08:20 AM (#110349) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Ferrara Jeri, one of the reasons this is working as well as it is, is that Mudcatters, being musicians, know other musicians around the country, so it turns out that in doing this, i.e. inviting Mudcatters here, we're giving lots of old friends a chance to sing together, including FSGW members who aren't on Mudcat at all! Even at the Rick Fielding concert, I learned that Roger in B. already knew locals Judy and Dennis Cook from a coffee house where they all sing. And Sandy and Caroline Paton have been to the Getaway in the past and are always invited. And Dick Greenhaus and Susan of DT have been to every one I can remember and probably more. And of course, when Joe Offer dropped in to an Open Sing and the Rick Fielding concert, he made lots of instant friends who would like very much to have him come back. You get the picture. It seems like a very natural and welcome thing to invite the Mudcatters to come and meet each other as well as the people who are already here. |
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01 Sep 99 - 09:02 AM (#110354) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Allan C. I, for one am totally amazed that this event has been going on (often only a few miles away) for the larger part of my life and I am just now finding out about it! What hole did I have my head in?!! But now that I know about it, I plan to make it an annual pilgrimage. I am so-o-o-o glad that the FSGW exists and that it has seen fit to put together this kind of event. Wow! I wish there were something I could do to relieve the kitchen problem. I like Jeri's idea about the Scouts and Nat'l Guard. Also, there are some groups like the Lions Club and Rotary who put on huge chicken roasts with some regularity. Some of these, rather than having permanent, cinder block structures, use portable units made of sheet metal.
Oh, I just remembered. When I was a baker, there was a church group that would bring in about thirty country hams in some of those huge recycleable pans. We would bake them in our huge rotating ovens. We did this in the early evenings when we didn't have much else to bake. You might be able to work out such a thing locally. We never charged them anything at all. For my contribution, I plan to smoke a couple of turkeys (I never inhale! - well, almost never) to bring along. |
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01 Sep 99 - 09:30 AM (#110356) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Charlie Baum A few comments-- I'm sure we'll be able to figure out how to feed everybody. It's just that were adjusting to a new venue this year, with a smaller kitchen, so we have to rethink the comfortaqble old ways of doing things. Vegetarians and non-carnivores (I'm one myself) should make notations on the registration form, where it asks about food allergies and dietary restrictions. If you've already sent in your form and need to amend it, stand by for instructions: I want to check with Jennifer Woods, the registrar, before I post her e-mail. Or send me a mudcat message and I'll bring it over to her--she literally lives around the corner from me. You should get specific about what kind of diet you follow--e.g., vegan; no beef, but chicken okay; fish okay but not shellfish; etc. While there's a limit to the number of things we can make, we can make sure you won't go hungry. At last count, at least 20 Mudcatters have either sent in registrations or announced publicly on some thread that they were coming, plus another 7 or 8 who said they'd like to come, but hadn't committed. All that, plus at least 9 regualr FSGW members who are Mudcatters. For the years 2000 or 2001, the Getaway might either stay at Prince William or move to a larger (but slightly more expensive) venue. All the FSGW regulars will be discussing this, no doubt, so you've been forewarned. --Charlie Baum |
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01 Sep 99 - 11:24 AM (#110373) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Charlie Baum Vegetarians (and others who need to amend their registration forms) may send e-mails directly to the registrar: Jennifer Woods at knitpick@aol.com --Charlie Baum (With an e-mail like that, can you guess that she's always knitting? Did you know she's married to Mudcatter SongBob?)
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01 Sep 99 - 02:45 PM (#110440) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: bbelle What if attendees brought extra food in coolers and we fired up some grills, which could serve as grills and/or warmers? Would that help? As a team, I think we can make this work. moonchild |
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01 Sep 99 - 10:50 PM (#110587) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Bill D well moonchild, I suspect that the committee will work out something a 'bit' easier than that..*grin*...but I know that Charlie..(a co-chairman of this shindig) will get the word out in plenty of time if we DO need unusual measures...when we get closer and have a rough head count of the various categories, it will be easier to plan. I know that we..(locals AND far-traveling Mudcatters) are a resourceful bunch...and Debbie is VERY clever about food planning...so I am not too worried...better worry more about how you are gonna clone yourselves so as to get to all the workshops you want AND stay up late for late night singing AND get enough sleep to comprehend any of it...*wink* |
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02 Sep 99 - 12:36 AM (#110625) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Charlie Baum I'm sure we can have enough food for everybody, since the more people who come, the more bodies there are to help cook. And I remember that there are even some grilles attached to one or more of the lodges. Using cooking sites away from the dining room decentralizes the food and meals, but that's possibly an option to consider. As well as supplementing the menu with foods that don't need to be cooked in the oven. It would be nice to try to coordinate this with our chef-in-chief, and Debbie McClatchy is on tour in England at the moment and hard to reach. But have no fear, things will work out for sure! It's just that registrations are running so far ahead of last year, that the camp might fill to what we thought was capacity. There are ways of extending that capacity, but reaching capacity is something the Getaway hasn't had to deal with in the last decade or two, and it's a new experience for your humble committee. --Charlie Baum |
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02 Sep 99 - 02:29 AM (#110651) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Ferrara I had a great talk with one of the local FSGW members this evening about possible ways to provide food for more people. Before I start posting all the potential ideas, though, I need to run them by the Getaway committee. But keep the ideas coming, we're thinking about all of them. Rita Ferrara
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02 Sep 99 - 08:22 AM (#110703) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Vixen Dear Rita-- Tim and I want to come to the Getaway, and we're willing to camp on a piece of ground and cook all our own food...we really are just coming for the music and the people (though not necessarily in that order!) Does the park allow Coleman stoves and charcoal grills? If they do, we can fend for ourselves food-wise, and we were planning on camping in the tent anyway. Shall I send in our registrations? V |
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02 Sep 99 - 11:02 AM (#110751) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Cara Since this seems to be the place all of the FSGW attendees are going to check, I have a favor to ask...First, how close does the Metro run to the campsite? I may only stay over Saturday night. Is there any way to get there from D.C. for one who doesn't drive? It's so close to me, but the no car thing is definitely a hassle. |
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02 Sep 99 - 11:25 AM (#110759) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: catspaw49 Hi Cara...We'll be in town on Friday and would be happy to pick you up Sat AM or whenever at a metro stop if you like....or Friday nite, whatever. Spaw |
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02 Sep 99 - 12:44 PM (#110785) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Bill D well, metro is QUITE a ways from Prince William Forest...30 miles, Charlie?...but there are lots of people coming from DC and surrounding area...where do you start from?...maybe we can arrange something...or maybe catspaws offer will work out......also, there will many day-trippers coming down without bedding and such, so traffic to & from DC may be heavy..*grin* |
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02 Sep 99 - 01:01 PM (#110795) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Charlie Baum The nearest Metro to Prince William is 25 miles away (Franconia/Springfield). The Virginia Railway Express will get you to Dumfries, which is closer, but still too far to walk. (maybe 6 or 7 miles down 6-lane roads with no sidewalks. But if you contact me or Bill D or Ferrara via private message and tell us where you live, we can probably make sure there's someone in FSGW to give you a ride, probably someone who lives pretty close to you! --Charlie Baum |
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02 Sep 99 - 05:06 PM (#110850) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Cara Thank you all. I'm lucky I live in the hotspot--I KNOW you all will be fairly close!! As soon as I get myself together enough to register for the waiting list (she said jokingly) I'll contact one of you with more specifics. I knew I could count on you guys! |
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02 Sep 99 - 05:37 PM (#110857) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Sandy Paton I sure hope Vixen and Tim can make it. I really enjoyed them at bbc's get-together, and loved the gentle mandolin back-up Tim added on one of the songs I happened to be leading. Real tasty and nice, as Caroline's grandma used to say about scalloped potatoes. Charlie: Have I contributed to a crisis? Here I've been tripping wildly among the tulips inviting everyone to come to the Getaway, never dreaming that there was even a remote possibility of overcrowding the site or, rather, the ovens! My enthusiasm for the event got the better of me. All those good FSGW folk, plus twenty-nine Mudcatters, and still counting! WOW! Sandy |
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02 Sep 99 - 05:46 PM (#110858) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: KathWestra We'll make you pay, Sandy. You'll have to sing a song for every Mudcatter you've recruited. Or perhaps I can collect a hug for every Mudcatter you've recruited. Hmmm... And, I'm going to make you tell Big Mick your version of the story of how you and Caroline rescued me from Grand Rapids, his hometown. Kath |
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02 Sep 99 - 05:49 PM (#110860) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: KathWestra We'll make you pay, Sandy. You'll have to sing a song for every Mudcatter you've recruited. Or perhaps I can collect a hug for every Mudcatter you've recruited. Hmmm... And, I'm going to make you tell Big Mick your version of the story of how you and Caroline rescued me from Grand Rapids, his hometown. Kath |
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02 Sep 99 - 06:06 PM (#110863) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Sandy Paton If that's a deal, Kathy, I'll get busy recruiting a few more and take you up on the "hugs" offer. So Big Mick is from Grand Rapids! Probably the only Irish Catholic family in that entire community of Dutch Christian Reformers. Can you remember the song you wrote while camping at your first Fox Hollow? I'll need you to sing it to properly conclude the story of your escape |
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02 Sep 99 - 06:08 PM (#110864) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Sandy Paton If that's a deal, Kathy, I'll get busy recruiting a few more and take you up on the "hugs" offer. So Big Mick is from Grand Rapids! Probably the only Irish Catholic family in that entire community of Dutch Christian Reformers. Can you remember the song you wrote while camping at your first Fox Hollow? I'll need you to sing it to properly conclude the story of your miraculous escape. Sandy |
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02 Sep 99 - 06:21 PM (#110866) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Vixen Sandy-- Thank you so much for your kind words! I'll be sure to pass them on to Tim when I see him next. He's playing six sets at the Woodstock Agricultural Fair with the two other bands, so he's rehearsing more than usual this week. We're looking forward to seeing everybody at the Getaway. V |
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02 Sep 99 - 10:14 PM (#110929) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Big Mick I am driving in from Traverse City, Michigan on Friday. I expect I will be in very late on Friday night. But I would be happy to pick you up on my way through if you would like. Sandy, I have a few stories of my own about those folks. And to clear any confusion, Parnell is a bedroom community to Grand Rapids. And there were quite a lot of Irish Catholics, they just don't get the attention the other folks do. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA Mick, who intends his first hug to be Caroline Paton. |
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02 Sep 99 - 10:41 PM (#110935) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Ferrara By all means, Vixen and Cara and anyone else, go ahead now and send in your registration. We'll hold 'em until September 20 or let you know even earlier if we get all the problems solved and have room for everyone. In the meantime -- THE EARLIER YOU REGISTER, THE BETTER -- it helps the count, and lets us know how many people we need to plan for. Also if there's still a log jam on Sept 20, it may help if your registration has an early postmark. Sandy, if I had my way, we'd rent the other half of the park if necessary to make space for all these people you and everyone else have invited. Nuff for now. Talk to you later. - Rita F |
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03 Sep 99 - 10:58 AM (#111090) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: KathWestra Sandy -- I was just thinking of that song the other day. Will rehearse between now and October -- have to work on getting it without the blush accompaniment. Hugs in advance. Kath |
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07 Sep 99 - 05:41 PM (#112247) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Vixen Rita et alia! I went to mail my registration, but I didn't know what the refund policy was going to be...Tim and I plan to bring our own food, and we're sleeping in the tent. Is it still $95 each? Just let me know, and I'll pop a check off asap...the envelope is stamped and the form is filled out! Many Thanks, V |
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07 Sep 99 - 08:22 PM (#112276) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: catspaw49 Hi Vix!!! I had to change my registration since Karen and the kids are coming too happily....We are signed up as "Day Tripper/No Food" and the adult, non-member rate is $7.00 per adult per day. I don't know about camping there, as we're staying at the Travel Trailer Village which they suggested in their info sheet. I didn't see anything about on premise camping. Spaw |
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07 Sep 99 - 08:47 PM (#112283) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Susan of DT Do we know what the workshops are yet? Charlie, please post a link. I gather we have a fox workshop, what else? |
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07 Sep 99 - 09:19 PM (#112289) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Joe Offer Fox workshop? What's that, Susan? Do tell. -Joe Offer, neophyte- |
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08 Sep 99 - 12:01 AM (#112341) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Bill D Rita is doing the schedule as we speak...it needs to be done soon for newsletter...so there will be notice soon... |
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08 Sep 99 - 05:59 AM (#112386) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Ferrara I'm almost certain that catspaw is right about there being no on-site camping. Charlie mentioned the camping situation in an earlier thread. Charlie, is there any provision for tent camping? If so, where and how far from the singing camp? Yes, Susan, what's this about a fox workshop? Must have been a thread I missed. I guess the hampsters looked at the title, saw the word "Fox," said to each other "Don't go there," and crashed my system before I could check it out. I'm cranking out a preliminary schedule now. The central problem each year is that we can't set up the program until we know who's coming, so it's always a last-minute scramble. Anyway, I'll send it to the newsletter editor Friday, and then see about getting it on a web site. |
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08 Sep 99 - 07:45 AM (#112394) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Allan C. Maybe I missed it somewhere in the three or more threads we have about the Getaway - How many people are projected to be there? Or, if this isn't a question you can answer at this time, then approximately how many people attended last year? |
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08 Sep 99 - 08:01 AM (#112397) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Lorraine Allan C-we can't really project this years attendance on last years because the site is different and that made a dramatic cost reduction. Some locals who were feeling broke perked up and said "oh this I can afford" and some locals to Va. said "oh this is much nearer than the previous site". Of course there are those locals who morn the loss of sailing or canoeing (and indoor toilets)from the previous site-can't please everyone all the time. KathWestra I too await your rescue song. Hummmmmm The getaway sounds very exciting and a new direction from past years. See you all there--Lorraine |
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08 Sep 99 - 08:23 AM (#112401) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Allan C. I see what you mean, Lorraine. If it were the same site used many times before, you could probably estimate a ten percent increase + or - , but having moved the event and, I gather, lowered the price, it gets to be a very different picture. 'Sides, according to Sandy's unofficial guesstimate, there may be some twenty-nine 'Catters attending as well. Surely all of this makes planning a true headache. I hope all involved with the organizing of the Getaway know how much their efforts are appreciated and that you only need to let us know, and help will be at hand to assist in making this Getaway a huge success. |
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08 Sep 99 - 09:29 AM (#112431) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Charlie Baum We're expecting about 150 campers. But that's a very rough guess, for all the reasons mentioned by Lorraine above. The sum of 29 mudcatters was actually based on my arithmetic, and didn't include the Catspaw family or Vixen & Tim. Last year we had maybe 110 people--but that was the old (bayfront) site at the old (higher) price, and not very many out-of-town Mudcatters. [Rita] Ferrara is in charge of figuring out workshops--times in the day when people will gather to jam on a particular subject or in a particular style, and opposed to just making music together which goes on pretty much all the time anyway. There really isn't provision for tent camping at the site. The nearest tent campsite in Prince William Forest Park is maybe 3 or 4 miles if you're a crow, but perhaps 10 to 15 miles away as the car crawls, since there are no direct roadways or hiking trails. The fine print on the refund policy reads: "Payment for overnight Getaway attendees may be done in installments. Deposits of $25.00 per adult and $10.00 per child required to reserve space. The balance is due by October 1, 1999. After that date space will not be guaranteed. We're sorry, but we cannot give refunds for any cancellations received after Sunday, October 4th unless someone else takes your space. There is a $10.00 processing fee per person for all cancellations." The cancellation fee is applied only if you change your mind There's actually a decent chance this year that someone else might take your place. And any registration that can't be accommodated due to lack of space at the park would get a full refund.. --Charlie Baum
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08 Sep 99 - 06:44 PM (#112604) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Susan of DT On the Fox Went Out thread (set to 14 days and filter for fox) Sandy suggested it and Tim W seconded it. a search for fox in the DT yields 53 hits, which doesn't include reynard and reynardine or foxy. It could be cast in various ways - foxes only, foxes and other canines, foxes and other hunted critters, etc. |
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09 Sep 99 - 12:14 AM (#112695) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: dick greenhaus For anybody's information- One of the real charms of the Getaway is that participation is primarily active , not passive. Workshops are not mini-concerts; they're give-and take song swaps involving members of a well-informed, often extremely talented "audience"; leaders don't concertize, but serve to keep thing moving. Performances are largely limited to evening concerts (read "open mikes") and the occasional mini-concert during the day. If you're coming, please be prepared to sing! |
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09 Sep 99 - 11:44 PM (#113088) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Wally Macnow We won't be able to get there this year. We have the opportunity to go to England, visit some friends, make some music and see a little bit of the country. Can't pass it up. I'm one of those folks that's very happy that the Getaway is moving back to Prince William Forest Park. It's just a great setting for a gathering of musicians and singers. It was where I started attending them in the mid '70s and I really hated Camp Letts. Please give my best to all. Hope to make it next year. By the way, are there any plans for a Spring Getaway? |
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10 Sep 99 - 12:04 PM (#113174) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Charlie Baum Well, we checked with the National Park Service, and just this morning they called us back: we were told that it is NOT permitted to set up tents in the Camp 4 area. Sorry, but them's the rules. On the other hand, there are more than 200 beds in the cabins, we've block-reserved some 30 motel rooms, and the "Travel Trailer Village" is a scant mile away. The official tent-camping area is on the other side of the park, probably a 15-20 minute drive away. --Charlie Baum |
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10 Sep 99 - 01:04 PM (#113184) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: catspaw49 Are there any other 'Catters trilering besides us? I just sent Vixen a note offering for them to stay with us since the Travel Trailer Village allows one trailer and one tent per site. Might be an option for few others if there are more with trailers. Spaw |
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10 Sep 99 - 01:26 PM (#113196) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Jeri Are there beds in the cabins? I know someone mentioned bringing sleeping bags because it can get cold, but do we need to bring any other bedding? Charlie, could you or someone else give a brief description of the accomodations, like how many people per cabin, and whether the showers and toilet facilities are scattered around or in one central area. Thanks! |
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10 Sep 99 - 01:58 PM (#113206) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: catspaw49 I think they're scattered around Jeri. Lots of trees, lots of holes. Spaw |
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10 Sep 99 - 02:05 PM (#113208) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Charlie Baum Sleeping accommodations: The cabins contain beds. Each bed has a foam mattress on wire springs. The mattress is not the world's most luxurious, but I've found them adequate. You'll need to bring your own bedding: pillows, pillowcases, etc. You could do sheets and blankets, but most of us just use sleeping bags. It can get very cold at night, and there are no heaters other than your body and the bodies of your cabin-mates. Each room contains from 2 to 5 beds. There are no bunk beds. Many cabins contain 3 rooms, arranged 4 beds-2 beds-4.beds. Other cabins contain more or fewer rooms. The cabins are grouped together in little villages; each village contains 3 to 5 cabins, a lodge (with fireplace, but no beds, often a gathering place for music making), and a bathhouse. The bathhouse always has a men's side and a women's side, and each side contains toilets, sinks, and shower stalls. Some but not all men's rooms may also have urinals. While you're packing bedding, bring towels. (If rain is in the forecast, bring extra towels.) There is also a large modern bathhouse near the dining hall. And the back wings of the dining hall contain several sleeping rooms; some of these rooms are wheelchair-accessible. Also near the dining hall are the main lodge (with fireplace and bathrooms--a prime music making spot), a theatre barn (raised stage but no seats, unless we bring some of our own), and the main parking lot. You'll probably need to schlep your stuff some distance from the car to the cabins. We will try to help those who need assistance. --Charlie Baum |
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10 Sep 99 - 02:25 PM (#113217) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Jeri Thanks Charlie - sounds wonderful! I hope you'll have a litter box handy for Catspaw - otherwise we'll all have to watch where we walk. |
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10 Sep 99 - 02:35 PM (#113221) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Vixen YAY!!! Thanks to 'Spaw and Karenspaw, we'll be there! V (pursing her lips to kiss Cleigh's .... "blowhole?") |
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10 Sep 99 - 04:06 PM (#113236) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: catspaw49 I just e-mailed to Vix and apologized, but when I called the Travel Trailer Village just now, I was told that although they do have a provision for tents, it is not on the RV lots! This is NOT what I was told the first time since I always ask the standard series of questions...elec,dog,A/C,surcharges,tents,showers,etc....We carry a tent as do most others and I always check......perhaps the first girl said there was a "Provision" for tents which I mistook for an OK, that's all I can think of.....Anyway, the TTV DOES have a provision for tents which I did ask about THIS time. They have a row for tents separated from the RV's by a row of trees......I neglected to ask how wide a row of trees is---50 feet or a Natiional Forest? Anyway, they are still an option that seems closer than the other campground for tenters......and again Vix, I'm sorry!!! Anyone else trailering or tenting? Spaw |
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10 Sep 99 - 04:16 PM (#113239) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: bbelle Charlie ... you're getting to be quite the expert at explaining "facilities." I'm glad to hear no bunkbeds ... I was kind of worried that there WERE bunkbeds and I would have to sleep on a top bunk, in which case, I would need to bring bungee cords to strap me in ... moonchild |
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10 Sep 99 - 04:23 PM (#113244) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: bbc Just one more bed question, Charlie--size. Double, single, a mix? bbc |
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10 Sep 99 - 04:36 PM (#113246) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Vixen Charlie-- a confusion (and it doesn't matter to me now anyway, since I've reserved a tent site at TTV) *BUT* the info I d/l from the FSGW website said the cabin choices were single sex, children, no children, so I was under the impression I'd have to find a female roomate for me and a male roomate for Tim. We'll scope it all out this year, so next year we'll have a better idea of what to expect and register for. We can't wait!!!! V |
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10 Sep 99 - 05:21 PM (#113255) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: bbelle Well ... I marked the "No Children" one, figuring that a mix of people and personalities would make it interesting. And, no, I do not dislike children. But, being my age and childless, I have less patience than I used to... moonchild |
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10 Sep 99 - 10:35 PM (#113292) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Ferrara The "No children," "single sex" questions etc are sort of like asking if folks are vegetarians: If you don't mark anything, they assume you don't care and will take potluck, so to speak. Some families prefer to be in a cabin where there are other kids. That way the kids make friends and keep each other busy. If you get in such a cabin, though, don't expect to sleep late. Those kids will be up at six or at least it seems that way. If you don't want to stay up late, you may want a cabin with kids to minimize the night-owls waking you up when they come in. I can't ever remember hearing that anyone had asked for a single-sex cabin but I guess they do sometimes. You can change clothes in the bath house for your cabin area if you can't get privacy in the cabin. Bring stuff to sleep in that you don't mind wearing in front of other people. Bring shoes you can slip into if you need to go to the bathroom in the night, and bring a flashlight. There are no lighted paths through the woods to help you stumble home in the wee hours. As the average age gets older, the amount of snoring in the cabins seems to increase exponentially. In past years we have supplied ear plugs gratis. Bring your own if you have any. So. How's that for making you look forward to the whole experience? Somehow we survive it all and have a blissful good time as well. - Rita Ferrara |
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10 Sep 99 - 11:28 PM (#113311) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: bbelle Almost everyone I know, who has reached the age of 50, now admits that they snore. It's awful! I've discovered BREATHE RIGHT STRIPS and they are very good at what they do. I also always travel with a small fan which helps to drown out noise. It's called the Anal Rententive Traveler. I guess I lived in Alaska too long to take anything for granted when traveling. I still even keep a roll of T.P. in my car for roadside emergencies ... moonchild |
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10 Sep 99 - 11:43 PM (#113315) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: catspaw49 Odd...nobody mentioned nighttime flatulence. Fortunately for all of you, I'm staying a ways off in the trailer. And don't anybody try to pass off (so to speak) that you never do it. Spaw |
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11 Sep 99 - 02:30 AM (#113354) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Big Mick I just came in from singing around a campfire. I was thinking of this gathering as I sang with the folks. I CAN'T WAIT...........WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!! Mick |
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11 Sep 99 - 10:16 AM (#113386) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: bbelle Spaw ... I'm not even going there ... moonchild |
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11 Sep 99 - 10:17 AM (#113388) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: bbelle OK ... I'll go there ... there's another really great product on the market called GAS EX ... moonchild |
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11 Sep 99 - 06:29 PM (#113477) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Bill D BTW...all beds are single...but in 22 years, I have seen every possible combinaton of moving, combining, and even dis-assembling beds to make sleeping as near to preferences as possible!..(Rita & I used to stand the beds on end in the foyer and put down a double bed sized foam mattress with an electric blanket...*grin*)....lots of possibilies, as long as you put 'em back like you found 'em..(The FSGW os famous for leaving the camp cleaner than we found it!) As to schleping stuff...you CAN drive down near the dining hall to unload...but then ya' gotta move your car back to the lot, as there is limited space..THEN carry your stuff to your cabin...(the Park Service WILL hassle us about blocking fire lanes and having extra cars around the dining hall).....(In case of rain, EVERYTHING changes!) Also...look for a reminder when you drive in, about careful, neat, compact and creative parking...There will be a LOT of cars, and it will be tight...especially Saturday when the day-trippers arrive!..We also need to remember that folks will be coming from motels and the trailer park and campgrounds each morning...[maybe THEY can car-pool]...we simply won't know till late Friday night and Sat morning how it is working..(***IF POSSIBLE...I, and maybe others will try to get the early arrivals parked in the best possible patterns ...so we can maximize the parking!!***)...
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13 Oct 00 - 01:01 PM (#318139) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Tinker Ferrara, there are two different threads that give info so I'll refresh them both. I haven't gotten a confirmation e-mail yet, should I worry? Tinker |
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15 Oct 00 - 11:36 PM (#319540) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Charlie Baum Much of the info in this thread is about the 1999 Getaway, and is therefore outdated. We're at a new place (Camp Ramblewood). See the other threads instead. --Charlie Baum |
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17 Oct 00 - 09:13 PM (#321399) Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway - News From: Bert Hi Rita, Charlie, et al, This is Marymac on Bert's computer. I just wanted to tell you I'm coming as a daytripper, bringing my own food. My modem's fried, so I can't get on email right now. Seeyou on the weekend! Marymac |