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07 Dec 10 - 05:20 AM (#3047971) Subject: Lyr Add: Unidentified Song Fragment From: Rozza Anyone know a song containing the following fragment: Broken ships will mend again When they come frae the sea But broken hearts will never mend again Ae dree and dree. My Great Aunt, Jessie Kydd used to sing this but I've never been able to find out where it comes from. |
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07 Dec 10 - 06:05 AM (#3047986) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: GUEST This is a slight variation of the song "Lassie Lee yer Milkin Pail" See John Argo on "Tobar an Dualchais" Sorry I cannot do the blue link. Joe. |
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07 Dec 10 - 06:22 AM (#3047999) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: Phil Edwards Here's the link. "Music transcribed in School of Scottish Studies. 3 verses. This is an intriguing fragment of a love song. The song does not appear in any of the standard works, but a version, to a different tune, called 'Glesca Jean' is sung by the group Clutha and recorded on their CD 'On The Braes'." The song on the Clutha's 2001 album is actually called 'Glesga Jean' with a G, but I can't find any more information about it. This seems to be related, although the conclusion is different. Tobar An Dualchais looks like a superb resource, by the way - thanks, GUEST Joe. |
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07 Dec 10 - 06:32 AM (#3048003) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: GUEST John Argo has two recordings on the "Tobar an Dualhais" site One recorded in 1951 "Oh Lassie Leave Your Milking Pail" do. do. 1960 "Oh The Rose". I have checked out these two on the site and the verse given above is not mentioned in either of these two. I am certain that this verse is part of this song. Joe. |
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07 Dec 10 - 11:29 AM (#3048131) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: Rozza Thanks Cetainly the closest I've got yet. The tune is similar to John Argo's. I like the budgie in the background on the Lucy Stewart recording. Ruairidh |
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07 Dec 10 - 12:22 PM (#3048163) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: BobKnight More likely to be a canary. Her brother, Big Geordie Stewart from Huntly in Aberdeenshire bred canaries as a hobby. Big Geordie was the man who gave Jimmy McBeath his version of Tramps and Hawkers. |
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07 Dec 10 - 01:30 PM (#3048197) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: GUEST,guest gutcher Rozza---did your great aunt have N.E. Scotland or S.W. Scotland connections? Joe. |
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07 Dec 10 - 03:15 PM (#3048252) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: Rozza She was born in Grimsby, Lincolnshire but her parents moved down from Peterhead in the 1870s. |
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07 Dec 10 - 04:12 PM (#3048310) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: Phil Edwards I have checked out these two on the site and the verse given above is not mentioned in either of these two. No, but it seems close: A broken rose, a broken rose Revives again in Spring A broken heart will mend again And ne'er be sae well ??? [can't make out the last word, sorry] The stanza in The Lassie wi the Milking Pail is similar: The green green grass is fallen down But it will rise in Spring A broken heart will mend again And ne'er be sae well ??? [same problem with the last word] The "broken ships" and the emphasis on broken hearts not mending seem unique to Ruaridh's great-aunt's version. |
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07 Dec 10 - 04:47 PM (#3048332) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: GUEST,guest gutcher The last phrase in both is----an maybe sae will mine Joe. |
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07 Dec 10 - 06:06 PM (#3048392) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: Phil Edwards [slaps forehead] |
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08 Dec 10 - 09:26 AM (#3048783) Subject: RE: Lyr req: Unidentified Song Fragment From: GUEST,guest gutcher My first reaction would appear to be correct and the verse given is indeed from the song LLYMP. N.E.Scotland version. I am reliably informed that this verse has not been collected before and as it comes from a family who moved South in the 1870s this will perhaps be the earliest indication of the age of this song. Joe. |