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07 Dec 10 - 06:28 PM (#3048400) Subject: 3 way concertina From: GUEST,Sally Goodge hello everyone i recently bought a very unusual concertina and was wonderingif any of you had any ideas? Basically it is a type with 3 ends instead of 2 with an odd join / soundbox in the middle where the 3 bellows meet. It looks to be quite old and has the name George Case written on it but no serial numbers. All 3 ends are identical in construction and are in the english system, 24 keys & blow hole on 2 of them, but one of the ends is 1/3 bigger than the others and plays 3/4 an octave lower throughout. It.s a bit wheezy but generally sound. The case it comes in looks like a hat box! Is this a common instrument? Apologies if I'm selling chickens to farmers here, I don't know too much about the instrument and it's history beyond the basics. Sally |
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07 Dec 10 - 06:50 PM (#3048417) Subject: RE: 3 way concertina From: Alan Day Hallo Sally Please put this up on concertina dot net with a photo.There are a number of concertina historians on there who will pinpoint this concertina for you. There were a few Music Hall acts that played a split concertinas similar (I think to what you refer to)Where the player plays the concertina normally for part of the act then splits the two ends apart and plays the two (one in each hand) as a duet. My memory fails me as to whom the player or players were., but someone will know a names or names of the possible player of your concertina. Very interesting posting. Al |
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07 Dec 10 - 10:40 PM (#3048509) Subject: RE: 3 way concertina From: Ross Campbell Joe Maley (Jack Easy) described one of the "split" concertinas which he used in his stage act. At a suitable crescendo in a tune, a slider arrangement in the middle of the bellows would allow the two parts to separate. Weights in the slider end brought in enough air for playing to continue for a few seconds. The tri-concertina sounds like a completely different beast - more like hen's teeth for rarity - possibly unique. Likely to have been a showman's instrument, I can see it being used in the sort of "Octopus Reel" arrangement that the Dubliners used to do, where each member would blow/bow/strum/pick an instrument while another member would do the appropriate fingering. I seem to remember the McCalmans had a similar trick which did involve a (normal) concertina, mandolin and guitar. Ross |
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08 Dec 10 - 04:30 AM (#3048596) Subject: RE: 3 way concertina From: GUEST,OLDNICKILBY Sally, DO NOT SELL this concertina to someone who may pester you. It will be better to use a major London Auction House or even E Bay. This is a very rare beast. Please post the pics on C Net. Thank you for the post, Best Wishes ,Nic |
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08 Dec 10 - 04:41 AM (#3048606) Subject: RE: 3 way concertina From: GUEST,chris I know The Concertina Museum could be interested in this instrument. You may wish to contact Neil Wayne (01773 824157) If your are looking for a 'playable' instrument - I know he has a number of decent instruments which he could use for 'swap'. I echo other posts and would love to see pictures. chris |
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08 Dec 10 - 05:20 AM (#3048621) Subject: RE: 3 way concertina From: Surreysinger Sally - several people have referred to c net, concertina.net etc. It occurs to me that you may very well not know of the site, and might like a link, which they haven't given you. So herewith the link! This will take you straight to the forums, and will give you access to the advice of more than a few knowledgeable concertina historians.(You will need to register in order to post on there.) If you can put a photograph up that would probably help even more. I'd be surprised if somebody on there didn't know the answer to your question. I'm none too sure why people are advising you of places to get rid of it to, since you have only just bought it apparently! I presume you bought it because you wanted it? LOL |
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09 Dec 10 - 11:48 AM (#3049718) Subject: RE: 3 way concertina From: GUEST,Neil Wayne (guest) Hi Sally - Thanks for the initial details of this strange instrument - and thanks to Chris (Flint) for passing on the details of the Concertina Museum (01773 824157). I'm one of the many eager folks keen to see images of this strange-sounding concertina - you can send to concertinas@free-reed.co.uk, though most folks would love to see them on MudCat I'm sure. Should it be in original condition, the Museum will be interested it possibly acquiring it - (Chris did mention we often offer possible swaps of high quality Anglos or English concertinas for old/interesting survivals!). Many folks on C.net, etc will of course make "valuations" that never seem to convert to genuine offers: Any offer that the Concertina Museum might make for an instrument is guaranteed genuine, and will be honoured! Hope to see more when convenient! best regards - Neil Wayne |