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1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years

16 Dec 10 - 05:14 PM (#3055087)
Subject: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 456 years
From: open mike

oops meant this to be below the line...
(unless there are any songs about it??)

http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Winter+solstice+coincide+with+lunar+eclipse+first+time+years/3987545/story.html

www.almanac.com
http://www.almanac.com/content/sky-watch-december-2010

An exceptional total eclipse of the Moon is visible throughout North America very early on the 21st ET (and begins on the 20th PT). The partial eclipse begins at 1:32 A.M., with totality starting at 2:40 A.M. Winter arrives the same day, with the solstice at 6:38 P.M.

see also NASA, Space Weather and other sites for more info.


16 Dec 10 - 06:07 PM (#3055114)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: GUEST,erbert

Oh bugger, is this an omen the world really will end 21 December 2012 ?


16 Dec 10 - 06:35 PM (#3055134)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: gnu

No, it ended on the 12th. This is an illusion.


16 Dec 10 - 06:58 PM (#3055150)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Rapparee

It means the world ended in 1221, but everybody was too busy worrying about having their heads chopped off, famine, and living in mud to know it happened.


16 Dec 10 - 09:42 PM (#3055262)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Little Hawk

It won't end. It will change. Whether that happens on Dec 21, 2012, though, remains to be seen. Make sure not to die before it happens (or not) or you'll miss out on knowing the answer (assuming you can't still be informed about it while in Spirit...).


16 Dec 10 - 09:47 PM (#3055264)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: katlaughing

Awesome! We can start a Solstice Party early!


17 Dec 10 - 12:54 AM (#3055327)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: open mike

yes this longestnight will be filled with wonder...
i hope skies are clear...thre is a storm on the way here...
the Geminid metero showers are in progress too!
i saw a great one the other night...streaking across the sky...


17 Dec 10 - 01:09 AM (#3055330)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: KT

oooh, open mike, sounds like a great song brewing there....song challenge, anyone?


17 Dec 10 - 01:34 AM (#3055333)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: skarpi

Sólstöður ....hmmm
já hví ekki ....

ég vona að það verði heiðríki .

kv Skarpi .


17 Dec 10 - 01:40 AM (#3055334)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: mousethief

Cool coinkydink.


17 Dec 10 - 10:44 PM (#3056098)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Rapparee

I saw a guy streaking across the campus once....


18 Dec 10 - 02:39 PM (#3056589)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: kendall

I wouldn't get up that early to see a total eclipse of the SUN!


18 Dec 10 - 02:57 PM (#3056611)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: gnu

Hahahahaa... us old guys get that joke. Good one!


21 Dec 10 - 12:26 AM (#3058271)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Melissa

cloudy here, dang it


21 Dec 10 - 12:30 AM (#3058272)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Janie

I think it is pretty cool. If the skies are sufficiently clear I will probably try to watch it.


21 Dec 10 - 01:57 AM (#3058290)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Mrrzy

LOL, Kendall! I'm going out now to peel, I mean, peek...


21 Dec 10 - 02:06 AM (#3058292)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Mrrzy

Stood in the cold and sang The Magnon, a secular winter carol of mine taken from Peter, Paul & the late, lamented Mary's version of The Magi. Spiritual as all getout, wow, what a trip. I'll be popping out every so often, I carefully didn't take my night-night pill yet...


21 Dec 10 - 02:26 AM (#3058298)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Gervase

Total cloud cover here in West Wales. Damn.


21 Dec 10 - 02:51 AM (#3058306)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Dan Schatz

Absolutely beautiful here in Pennsylvania. And Kendall, who said anything about getting up early. It's going to bed late!

Dan


21 Dec 10 - 03:02 AM (#3058308)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Mrrzy

Almost totality... we have intermittent clouds and haze, so it's not often visible at all, but when it is, wowee.


21 Dec 10 - 03:04 AM (#3058310)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Ebbie

I saw it. In fact it's not quite over yet. Interesting but not nearly as impressive as a solar eclipse I saw in the early '80s. That one made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.


21 Dec 10 - 03:21 AM (#3058316)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Dan Schatz

Just saw the peak. WOW.

Dan


21 Dec 10 - 04:54 AM (#3058345)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Leadfingers

Mutter Mutter Mutter - Too much Cloud - Mutter Mutter


21 Dec 10 - 05:10 AM (#3058351)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Bonnie Shaljean

Saw it at dawn on the south coast of Ireland, just setting in the western sky. Large, clear, and stunning.


21 Dec 10 - 07:50 AM (#3058444)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: GUEST,Dani

Tromped around the frozen snowy ground and stared at the clouds for a while. Nothing! But it was cool to know it was happening. And, I love this quote from a NASA site:

"Imagine yourself standing on a dusty lunar plain looking up at the sky. Overhead hangs Earth, nightside down, completely hiding the sun behind it. The eclipse is underway. You might expect Earth seen in this way to be utterly dark, but it's not. The rim of the planet is on fire! As you scan your eye around Earth's circumference, you're seeing every sunrise and every sunset in the world, all of them, all at once. This incredible light beams into the heart of Earth's shadow, filling it with a coppery glow and transforming the Moon into a great red orb."

Dani


21 Dec 10 - 08:28 AM (#3058475)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray

Any pics???


21 Dec 10 - 08:55 AM (#3058487)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: SINSULL

So first I had a two hour commute on ice. Then I got up in the middle of the night and froze my tootsies to see...clouds.
Bah Humbug!


21 Dec 10 - 08:55 AM (#3058489)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: clueless don

Saw it this morning (2:30-3:00 am, EST, USA.) Didn't see any meteors, but that's not surprising given the level of light pollution. Orion was quite prominent.

Happy Solstice!

Don


21 Dec 10 - 09:31 AM (#3058509)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: GUEST,jonny sunshine

I was all hopeful last night when the moon came out clear and bright, but saw nothing but clouds this morning. :-(


21 Dec 10 - 10:13 AM (#3058539)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Rapparee

Because of the juxtaposition of the Cosmic Elements you'll be happy to know that the world ended, torn apart by a tsunami of cosmic rays. But just carry on, nobody notices these things.


21 Dec 10 - 11:16 AM (#3058575)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: gnu

I slept... except several when I was wakened by the howling wind and driving rain. Guess I'll have to wait until the next one.


21 Dec 10 - 12:50 PM (#3058648)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Mrrzy

Hope I remember this a long time... woke the boys up but only Willie was willing to get up and see the totality with me... aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....


21 Dec 10 - 01:14 PM (#3058665)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Lonesome EJ

The moon was filtering through a curtain of cloud until about 11:30, when the first trace of shadow fell across the edge. At that point, the clouds departed, like opening the stage curtain for the big show. we watched the shadow gradually move over the surface, and when it was in half-eclipse, you could begin to see detail in the dark side. As the light dropped away to a quarter moon shape, the "dark" area began to take on texture and detail, and a sort of banding of light that gave the sphere a Martian look. As the light gleamed on the edge and extinguished, the moon took on a vivid three-dimensionality, looking like a gold-orange balloon that was maybe 600 feet in the air. That was the most striking thing about it...the feeling of proximity, and the almost palpable round mass of it, at times glowing orange at the center and with a golden halo around the edge.

It was silent where we were viewing it, and the stillness and the strange nearness of the moon really gave me a sense of the suspension of time and motion. I wondered how may calls were fielded at the police department from people unaware of the lunar eclipse, who took the moon for a great orange, round, alien craft.


21 Dec 10 - 01:16 PM (#3058666)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Ed T

Twas too cloudy for us folks to see.


21 Dec 10 - 01:18 PM (#3058669)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: gnu

Beautiful description LEJ... thanks.


21 Dec 10 - 01:21 PM (#3058672)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: nutty

Watched for about an hour here in Redcar (North East England) until the moon got too low and disappeared behind the houses opposite.

Even managed to take photos while standing at my front door. A great experience. So glad I woke early today.


21 Dec 10 - 01:45 PM (#3058699)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: gnu

Just read in The Montréal Gazette that it's only 372 years since the last one... so I won't have to wait so long after all.


21 Dec 10 - 04:38 PM (#3058867)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: GUEST,Ed

Suibhne Astray asked if there were any good pictures. I particularly like the first two from the BBC site.

The second one is particulatly good (even if, like me, you are not religious)


21 Dec 10 - 10:27 PM (#3059050)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: ChanteyLass

Cloudy here in RI. At 1:30 AM I went outside to locate the moon. It wasn't visible, so I went to bed.


22 Dec 10 - 01:44 AM (#3059096)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Slag

Rained out! Rats! Will have to wait around for the next solstician eclipse. Another 500 years or so. I did notice the dark got noticably darker. I like that.


22 Dec 10 - 04:29 PM (#3059562)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: alanabit

Köln was completely clouded over, just as it had been for the solar eclipse eleven years ago - in August! It really is time they got the weather sorted out here.

Typisch Deutschland: Alles wird verwaltet aber nichts is organisiert!


22 Dec 10 - 10:13 PM (#3059742)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Janie

I am embarrassed to say that at some point on Monday I got it in my head the eclipse was occurring Tuesday night instead of the wee hours of Tuesday morning.

I didn't get stoned, and I missed it anyway!


23 Dec 10 - 12:47 AM (#3059800)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: alanabit

There you have it Janie. There are perils in going straight too!


23 Dec 10 - 01:18 AM (#3059806)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: KT

I walked down to the wharf in the cold (13 degrees?) and watched from there- mountains to my left, ocean to my right - the whole city strangely quiet. What left me awestruck was the realization that so many people in this big ol' world of ours were so focused on the same thing at the same time. Imagine!


23 Dec 10 - 11:59 AM (#3060078)
Subject: Lunar Eclipse
From: mikesamwild

Having been taken by the total eclipse the other morning ( Solstice, full moon, total lunar eclipse and Venus in the east0


Why is it that the Earth and the Moon appear to fit so exactly in size, and if the moon is 'covered' why is the blood red moon still visible?


23 Dec 10 - 12:04 PM (#3060083)
Subject: RE: Lunar Eclipse
From: Crowhugger

It's lit by only the general glow from the sun, not by direct rays, which are blocked by the earth. Picture a lamp shining on an apple on the table, now put a vase or a book between the apple and the lamp: You still see the apple but the colour has darkened.


23 Dec 10 - 01:02 PM (#3060126)
Subject: RE: Lunar Eclipse
From: open mike

check this thread
in the B.S. section below...(which is where this thread might be moved or merged as it is not about music) for info about the eclipse and links whcih describe the effect...like the sunset and sunrise bathes our planet in red hues, that is why the moon turned red when being lit only by the reflection of light bouncing off the edge of the earth..the
rising and setting sun's rays...


23 Dec 10 - 05:03 PM (#3060275)
Subject: RE: Lunar Eclipse
From: Sandy Mc Lean

The apple on the table would be lit by reflected light from walls and other objects.
In this case the moon is totally in the shadow of the Earth and there are no nearby objects to reflect light back to the moon. What happens is that the atmosphere of the Earth acts as a prism and it bends the light from the sun. It bends the lower frequency (red) light more, so those rays fall on the moon but the higher frequency light misses it and passes by. The red rays are reflected back to Earth making the moon appear red.


23 Dec 10 - 05:05 PM (#3060278)
Subject: RE: Lunar Eclipse
From: Sandy Mc Lean

Refraction is the term that I neglected to add.


23 Dec 10 - 05:06 PM (#3060280)
Subject: RE: Lunar Eclipse
From: gnu

Yeah, Sandy... I see it too. Cooool. >;-)


23 Dec 10 - 06:37 PM (#3060331)
Subject: RE: Lunar Eclipse
From: Sandy Mc Lean

Spring tides (the highest monthly tides having nothing to do with the season of the year) occur when when the sun and moon pull together or in opposition. An eclipse can only happen during a full moon and at a time when the sun and moon are directly opposed. Therefore the tides are at their highest point at that time. Canada's Atlantic coastline has just been battered by an intense Nor'easter at the time of the peak rise of the sea. Hurricane force winds pushed this high water into a storm surge that swept much farther inland than normal causing great damage to shoreline and coastal infrastructure. All part of the fun of living on an island stuck out in the ocean. My home and neighbourhood escaped unscathed but other areas were much less fortunate.
Due to stormy skies the eclipse could not be seen here.


24 Dec 10 - 12:45 AM (#3060467)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Donuel

It was crisp and cold with a sky so clear you could see the Milky way. My 10 year old and I went out a couple times to see the deep orange dark circle on the moon and came in for hot chocolate, which was the highlight.

It does not compare to the full lunar eclipse of May 1975 when I saw an impact take place just beyond the upper left hand horizon of the moon. One big shower of dust followed by a puny little after explosion. I had a piece of jewelry commisioned for that event. The gold ring had a full moon made of bronze with a sliver of white gold.
The bronze would get very dark but would shine right back up with buffing.


24 Dec 10 - 03:59 AM (#3060504)
Subject: RE: Lunar Eclipse
From: mikesamwild

Thanks all, still not clear about the relative size/distance thing.


24 Dec 10 - 04:11 AM (#3060513)
Subject: RE: Lunar Eclipse
From: Keith A of Hertford

The sun is about 400 million times bigger than the moon, but also about 400 million times further away.
Thus they appear the same size in the sky, and the moon exactly covers the sun in a solar eclipse.
This is just held to be an amazing cosmic coincidence.

The earth's shadow is much bigger than the moon, and the curvature of the edge of it is visible as it crosses the moon in a lunar eclipse.


24 Dec 10 - 01:10 PM (#3060769)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: Keith A of Hertford

Doh!
Delete "million"


26 Dec 10 - 07:28 AM (#3061411)
Subject: RE: 1st solstice/lunar eclipse in 500 years
From: mikesamwild

Thanks ,Spooky!