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28 Jan 11 - 08:31 AM (#3083982) Subject: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Brian May Is it right that the Polish version of Scrabble has 15 'Z's and they're only worth 1? There's only 2 'A's, 1 'E', 1 'I', 2 'O's and 2 'U's . . . :o) |
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28 Jan 11 - 08:50 AM (#3083996) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: GUEST,Big Norman Voice ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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28 Jan 11 - 10:40 AM (#3084073) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Brian May That's an awful lot of Zs Norman - you must have nearly been asleep at the end . . . |
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28 Jan 11 - 10:43 AM (#3084075) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: GUEST,leeneia It's a good idea if somebody studied Polish and decided that Z is a very common letter. I wish the makers of Scrabble for English had done the same thing and then made a tile which contains both a Q and its U. |
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28 Jan 11 - 10:59 AM (#3084087) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Georgiansilver leneia.. you might perhaps like to play 'Word Drop' on facebook.. the 'Q' with its 'u' would suit you I guess. |
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28 Jan 11 - 12:28 PM (#3084130) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: John on the Sunset Coast Jeenia--QU is not a letter...it is most generally a diphthong with the pronunciation of QW. However, you may be on to something. Each of the most commonly used consonants could be paid with a vowel such that the set might contain the following B, BA, BE & BO. This, of course, begs the question whether BE and similar combinations can be used as stand alone words. |
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28 Jan 11 - 01:16 PM (#3084154) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: GUEST,Grishka Z certainly is common in Polish (particularly when including the diacritics Ź and Ż; the combinations CZ and SZ contribute a great deal), but E is much more common still, even if you don't count the Ę with it. Brian, I guess (or even bet) you have fallen victim to an urban legend. There are better reasons to study Polish than to answer such questions. (Not that I'm really good at it, though.) |
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28 Jan 11 - 02:37 PM (#3084207) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Les from Hull Scrabble letter distributions |
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29 Jan 11 - 06:45 AM (#3084572) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Brian May Err, sorry - it was meant to be a little humour - we tend to get SO serious on this part of Mudcat. As for the QU oh yes! I didn't realise, until it was used on my iPhone copy of Scrabble that 'QI' was a word. I wish their dictionary was editable, because it really has some weird words and disallows common ones. Ah well, humour not understood, back to the drawing board . Ho hum. A big cheerio to all the other Scrabblers out there. Brian |
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29 Jan 11 - 07:17 AM (#3084583) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: MGM·Lion Among the words that I resent being not being admitted to the Scrabble dictionary are older, but still extant, second and third person forms of verbs: as in, e.g. Biblical style 'thou sayest', 'he goeth', &c. I contend that these must theoretically exist, & should ∴ be admissible, even for more recently coined verbs, so that I should expect an opponent to accept 'phonest', 'texteth'... ~Michael~ |
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29 Jan 11 - 08:59 AM (#3084628) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Bobert I like the Wes Ginny version... All blanks... |
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29 Jan 11 - 10:16 AM (#3084665) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Dave MacKenzie I believe the Welsh version of Scrabble follows the dictionary and treats these as single letters: Ch, Dd, Ff, Ng, Ll, Ph, Rh & Th. |
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29 Jan 11 - 11:48 AM (#3084717) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Jim Dixon Regarding "sayest," "goeth," etc.: Microsoft's spell checker rejects those words also. Often it doesn't recognize the subjunctive, either, and flags it as a grammar error. One of life's minor annoyances. |
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29 Jan 11 - 02:29 PM (#3084802) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Bee-dubya-ell I'm still incensed that the Scrabble folks have changed the official rules to allow the playing of proper nouns. Wanna see a good example of a reason why? Here you go: Under the old rules, there were no three letter words in English that could be built by adding a letter before the word "no". Now, there are at five that I know of: Ano - a town in Ethiopia Eno - last name of musician Brian Ino - a town in Alabama Ono - an island on the Intracoastal Waterway at the Alabama/Florida border Uno - Spanish for "one", formerly illegal because it's a foreign word but now presumably legal as the name of a popular card game Sheesh! We still play by the old rules at my house and anyone who doesn't like it is welcome to bring his own board and set up an alternate game in the kitchen. |
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29 Jan 11 - 10:36 PM (#3085021) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: John on the Sunset Coast Gosh, it's been eons since I've played Scrabble--I quit when my son started beating me regularly--but as I recall the rules, proper nouns were not allowed, which should invalidate those words listed above by Bee-dubya-el. Have the rules changed? |
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29 Jan 11 - 10:57 PM (#3085028) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: bobad "there were no three letter words in English that could be built by adding a letter before the word "no" " I have been playing Scrabble for a long time and often use the word "ono" -- pre proper noun days. It has always been in the Official North American Tournament Scrabble Word List: http://kisa.ca/scrabble/index.html |
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29 Jan 11 - 11:41 PM (#3085054) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Janie You mean to tell me some people follow the rules when playing Scrabble? |
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29 Jan 11 - 11:54 PM (#3085058) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Bobert Rules??? Like what??? No guns??? (No, moron, like real friggin' words...) Okay, hmmmmmm??? Lets ee... I gotta R, 2 G's, 2 I's and and friggin' N... Oh what to make??? Bingo!!! FRIGGIN, you know like frigging??? Oh, then all Scrabble instincts took over and it was war... I mean, that house looked like the DEA had finished with it... Trashed... Furniture over turned... Scrabble letters everywhere... Moral of the story: Keep Scrabble a fun game... Ain't about the final score but the time you spend with yer opponent (friend)... B~ |
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30 Jan 11 - 12:18 AM (#3085060) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Bee-dubya-ell Janie, playing by the rules is relative. When my wife and I play, we use the dictionary and other cheats. We're not really trying to beat one another. We're trying to hone our game skills so we can kick other people's butts when we play them. What I really don't like about the new rules allowing proper nouns is that someone can play just about anything that looks like a word and claim it's the name of a street, small town, or whatever and hardly anyone's going to risk penalty points by challenging it. Would you challenge "Krog"? If you did, you'd lose. It's a street in Atlanta. What about "Yertz"? I just made that one up, but if I said it was someone's name, would you risk a challenge? |
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30 Jan 11 - 12:26 AM (#3085066) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: MGM·Lion Absolutely agree BWL. Once allow words which are purely proper nouns & have no other referents, as I gather the Scrabble people have now done chiz-chiz, & you might as well pack up & go home. ~Michael [ a 7-letter word & I claim my 50-point bonus!]~ |
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30 Jan 11 - 07:06 AM (#3085149) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Georgiansilver Erm... Bobert my friend..... <<<<<>>>>> are you sure you didn't mean RIGGIN?????? LOL. |
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30 Jan 11 - 07:13 AM (#3085150) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Fastauntie The official Scrabble dictionary came into being long after the game itself, so I look on it as a mere convenience rather than an integral part of the rules. While I agree that proper nouns make the whole thing pointless, I've always held that the players can agree beforehand on what dictionary they'll use. My family has usually used the OED, though I'll go along with a Scrabble-specific dictionary if other players insist. |
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30 Jan 11 - 08:29 AM (#3085175) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: GUEST, topsie Unless Bobert was the first to go, he will have been using an F that was already on the board. Did you use any double or trippple words/letters Bobert? |
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30 Jan 11 - 09:01 AM (#3085189) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: kendall In Maine scrabble there aint no word ending in ing. |
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30 Jan 11 - 09:15 AM (#3085202) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Bobert Well, I did hit a double word score so I think I got 28 friggin points for "friggin"... B~ |
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30 Jan 11 - 10:41 AM (#3085243) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge I `ad that Hang Sen Charlie in my cab the other day, `im as runs that "Peking Royal Palace" Chinese restaurant in `ackney. It serves "peas and rice" and claims it`s a traditional dish. `e said, "Jim, we go Rondon container terminal. We pick up Chinese Sclabble game I order flom Hong Kong at the docks." I said, " Gawd blimey, Mao. Couldn`t they send it by post?" `e said, "No Jim. Chinese alphabet has ten thousand symbols, it come in four big boxes!!" Whaddam I Like?? |
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30 Jan 11 - 05:56 PM (#3085506) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Tig Firecat and I have taken to playing scrabble on Facebook. I keep losing as one of her favourite 'sneek me in' words is QI which is happily accepted. It's amazing some of the words I've now learnt! |
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31 Jan 11 - 02:16 AM (#3085700) Subject: RE: BS: Scrabble conundrum From: Georgiansilver Of course you might want an advantage scroll up and down to find what you want...... and another...... but don't forget to put in the '1' for how max number of words you want for anagrams |